Pakistan wouldn't been a shithole if it wasn't for the islamilization

[Ryan]

Jinnah's primary motive in creating Pakistan was to safeguard the rights of Muslims in the Indian subcontinent, rather than aiming to establish a state where Sharia law would be implemented. His stance can be best described as essentially secular. He shared an interpretation of Islam that was in alignment with the views of Sir Syed Ahmad Khan. When Jinnah expressed his intention to establish an Islamic state, he was essentially advocating for the creation of a secular state. He believed that Islam inherently supported the idea of secularism.

To better understand Jinnah's perspective, it is beneficial to study the writings of Sir Syed Ahmad Khan(the ideological father of jinnah). Sir Syed rejected much of the Hadith literature from which many Islamic laws are derived. He also rejected the notion of miracles and likened revelation not to angels conveying messages to Muhammad, but to a realization of truth,similar to Thomas Jefferson. Just as Thomas Jefferson believed in a rational understanding of religion, Sir Syed's approach to Islam emphasized reason and understanding over blind adherence to traditional interpretations. Jinnah followed this pragmatic and rational approach in shaping his vision for Pakistan.

Spoiler: mirin?

 

[Ryan]

@emeraldglass @SecularIslamist

 

[Ryan]

@TRUE_CEL @Preston @inferiorpispot234 @Shrek2OnDvD

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Correct. Jinnah's vision for Pakistan, as you've described, aimed to create a nation where the rights of Muslims were safeguarded, and his approach could be seen as influenced by a secular outlook. Syed Khan from what I've read rejected Hadith literature and the notion of miracles.

And yes Islamization of Pakistan has played a key role in its problems. The rise of religious extremism has led to violence, intolerance, and discrimination. It has also hindered economic development and social progress.
Ultimately if Pakistanis want to create a more prosperous and tolerant society, they will need to find a way to balance the demands of Islam with the need for modernization.

 

[Ryan]

@human304

 

[AspiringMogger]

Some Pakistani guy I went to Umrah with told me Lahore is filled with heroin addicts. Thoughts?

 

[Ryan]

Some Pakistani guy I went to Umrah with told me Lahore is filled with heroin addicts. Thoughts?

I cannot confirm with certainty since I am not from Lahore (Salludon is), but it is likely to be true.

 

[human304]

When Jinnah expressed his intention to establish an Islamic state, he was essentially advocating for the creation of a secular state. He believed that Islam inherently supported the idea of secularism.

False info.

@human304

i am just too much tired from talking about this and in my opinion Islam will take over the world not because of its strength but because of the infighting between other powers.

just like how Islam took so many territories so fast using the

Byzantine–Sasanian War after math to their advantage.​

us, uk supported Islamists to counter socialism aka soviet union. soviet union got damaged, whole middle eastern and south asian left leaning leaders got assassinated by the CIA.

islamists like Zia Ul Huq takes over, saudi money comes and mashallah all of the middle east, south asia that were pinnacles of civilization now are terrorist hellhole and usa actively supports it.

eventually due to demography change USA will also fall and Islam will take over and the world will see a dark age.

 

[Deleted member 24427]

maulana azad who was the first education minister of india was vehemently against creation of pakistan as he was actually religious and thought that dividing a country on basis of islam is unislamic

he also mentioned in 1940s how the muslims of region of pakistan (kpk west punjab sindh and bangladesh) were less religious than the muslims in indian borders and only actually prayed cuz they were a minority, and if pakistan becomes reality then muslims there would only be in name and rage on news paper or protests but wont actually pray

plus he also said that if jinnah and liaqat ali die then pakistan and bangladesh will go to war as they have nothing in common other than islam