Palate Expander + Herbst appliance Any thoughts?

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Im thinking to get palate expander like mse or sarpe at 17 let's say if i did the expansion i might need to pull the lower jaw forward too and for that im thinking to go for either herbst appliance or DAME do y'all think a maxillofacial surgeon can give me that bc i've got a narrow palate but mse does help the maxilla extend laterally btw those pics they're not me they are some good results

Gr3 16
Mse before and after insane v0 a307vs388fsc1
Mse before and after insane v0 kla8o0l78fsc1
 

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