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Hi, what’s the best way to expand your upper and lower plate. I’ve heard MSE, SARPE, MSDO(lower), segmented lefort 1. Which gives the best functional yet aesthetic results. Do they also expand midface ?
 
Hi, what’s the best way to expand your upper and lower plate. I’ve heard MSE, SARPE, MSDO(lower), segmented lefort 1. Which gives the best functional yet aesthetic results. Do they also expand midface ?
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Now help me, which of these options are the best if you know ?
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im looking into msdo personally i need to learn about its aesthic effects tho
 
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im looking into msdo personally i need to learn about its aesthic effects th
Msdo is only for lower jaw expansion. Don’t you need to match upper with MSE or SARPE?
 
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Hi, what’s the best way to expand your upper and lower plate. I’ve heard MSE, SARPE, MSDO(lower), segmented lefort 1. Which gives the best functional yet aesthetic results. Do they also expand midface ?
MSE probably. But I'm not an ortho, there are specific cases where segmented lefort 1 is enough. It's not optimal generally tho, small expansion, 25% relapse rate. MSE gives bigger results (if u're lucky, it can also fail, especially if u're around the age of 25), it also relapses to a certain degree. But still, for expansion: MSE. It is by far not aesthetic though. If u're recessed and need a bimax anyway, get a segmented lefort 1 and hope for the best. It will probably give the most natural looking result, from what I've read. If it isn't enough, get MSE afterwards.
From my knowledge there is no way to expand the lower palate, u can artificially expand it with braces (orthodontics) from what I've read.
 
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By raping my asshole
 
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He has small palate same issue as me. It’s over for both of us
mirin compact midface

I have narrow palate too and it looks disgusting needs palate expander asap
 
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No such thing as lower palate
 
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MSE probably. But I'm not an ortho, there are specific cases where segmented lefort 1 is enough. It's not optimal generally tho, small expansion, 25% relapse rate. MSE gives bigger results (if u're lucky, it can also fail, especially if u're around the age of 25), it also relapses to a certain degree. But still, for expansion: MSE. It is by far not aesthetic though. If u're recessed and need a bimax anyway, get a segmented lefort 1 and hope for the best. It will probably give the most natural looking result, from what I've read. If it isn't enough, get MSE afterwards.
From my knowledge there is no way to expand the lower palate, u can artificially expand it with braces (orthodontics) from what I've read.
No foward growth/ maxillary growth is fine, it just needs expansion I believe. Same with palate, that’s why I’m leaning towards MSE or Sarpe instead. Will probably consult a maxfac about this. Thank you for actually answering my question!
 
No foward growth/ maxillary growth is fine, it just needs expansion I believe. Same with palate, that’s why I’m leaning towards MSE or Sarpe instead. Will probably consult a maxfac about this. Thank you for actually answering my question!
yeah def go for mse/sarpe in that case!
 
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mirin compact midface

I have narrow palate too and it looks disgusting needs palate expander asap
How is your forward growth as well ? Mine is good; but I need maxillary expansion and palate expansion. So I guess there’s no need for Lefort 1
 
How is your forward growth as well ? Mine is good; but I need maxillary expansion and palate expansion. So I guess there’s no need for Lefort 1
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It's alright, just needs expansion for narrow arch

I'm thinking SARPE maybe
 
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lower jaw expansion (MSDO) to match upper jaw once I’m done with MSE or Sarpe
You don't necessarily have to have that. They can just move your teeth.
 
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It's alright, just needs expansion for narrow arch

I'm thinking SARPE maybe
It’s good! We have the same issue I guess. I’m going to start consulting with maxillofacial surgeons and orthos to get some ideas as to what to do. Hopefully I can get some answers
 
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It’s good! We have the same issue I guess. I’m going to start consulting with maxillofacial surgeons and orthos to get some ideas as to what to do. Hopefully I can get some answers
I have ortho booked in 2 weeks too

Are your lips also narrow ?
 
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But does MSDO help flair out your gonials more ?
My guess is no or very little because there's no bone between them, unlike the palate where new bone fills in the space.

But I don't actually know. Probably jaw implants would be better solution though.
 
I have ortho booked in 2 weeks too

Are your lips also narrow ?
Yeah, but only slightly not too bad. I don’t care too much about that though, what’s more important is having a wide palate and maxilla. Sarpe or MSE will probably help widen the lips as well.
 
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Yeah, but only slightly not too bad. I don’t care too much about that though, what’s more important is having a wide palate and maxilla. Sarpe or MSE will probably help widen the lips as well.
My lips are my worst failo, hoping that they would widen

There's no MSE in my country so I think SARPE is my only choice, I'll see what the ortho recommends

Are you looking to improve your airway, smile or what?
 
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My lips are my worst failo, hoping that they would widen

There's no MSE in my country so I think SARPE is my only choice, I'll see what the ortho recommends

Are you looking to improve your airway, smile or what?
Airway and smile, I think my braces have made my mouth smaller tbh. It seems harder to breathe through my nose now and I need to be more forceful.
 
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My lips are my worst failo, hoping that they would widen

There's no MSE in my country so I think SARPE is my only choice, I'll see what the ortho recommends

Are you looking to improve your airway, smile or what?
This should help jfl
 

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Does this actually do anything or it’s cope? Where did you buy that expander thing ?
I 3D printed it

will try for 2 months and let's see if it works
 
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I 3D printed it

will try for 2 months and let's see if it works
It’s weird because someone like Zyzz has a very small mouth yet seems to have a wide maxilla. Wonder how that happens. Might be steroid use ?
 

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Even Henry cavil, my lip length is similar to his.
 

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