Palate expansion and midface

It’s weird because someone like Zyzz has a very small mouth yet seems to have a wide maxilla. Wonder how that happens. Might be steroid use ?
he slayed nonetheless

good jaw + gymmaxxed
 
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Even Henry cavil, my lip length is similar to his.
how does his lips look so narrow here?
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Hmmm, he has a wider upper lip compared to lower, unusual. Mines the opposite. Probably just narrow mouth or maxilla.
He also has narrow palate, not death tier tho

I think narrow palate always causes the mouth to be narrow
 
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He also has narrow palate, not death tier tho

I think narrow palate always causes the mouth to be narrow
Yeah I agree. Either way it’s not the worst falio but it’s still undesirable, and needs to be fixed.
 
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He also has narrow palate, not death tier tho

I think narrow palate always causes the mouth to be narrow
Who’s the slayer you sent before anyways ? Where do you find these ppl in the first place jfl
 

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My lips are my worst failo, hoping that they would widen

There's no MSE in my country so I think SARPE is my only choice, I'll see what the ortho recommends

Are you looking to improve your airway, smile or what?
aren't u from Germany too?
 
It’s weird because someone like Zyzz has a very small mouth yet seems to have a wide maxilla. Wonder how that happens. Might be steroid use ?
he does not have a wide palate lmao. zyzz is a modern orthodontic victim
 
he does not have a wide palate lmao. zyzz is a modern orthodontic victim
Is wide palate and wide maxilla the same thing ? He seems to have a decent FWHR irrespective
 
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shit bro, it's over for ur mse. U could fly to Germany u know, we have orthos in Munich & Düsseldorf that offer MSE
 
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shit bro, it's over for ur mse. U could fly to Germany u know, we have orthos in Munich & Düsseldorf that offer MSE
yeah but I'd have to go there so often it's not worth it

SARPE is probably more reasonable
 
Is wide palate and wide maxilla the same thing ? He seems to have a decent FWHR irrespective
I don't think these correlate I have wide face but narrow palate
 
I don't think these correlate I have wide face but narrow palate
I think having a wider maxilla results in more projected cheekbones increasing facial width. Same with having overall wider jaws
 
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I think having a wider maxilla results in more projected cheekbones increasing facial width. Same with having overall wider jaws
Yeah I think so too

I have wide jaw but cheekbones could definitely be better
 
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Look at this. Cruise seems to have expanded his mouth quite significantly. I wonder that he did.
 

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