PCT & Reactivating HPTA after cycle

[frazzledrip]

Hello.
I am going to be running 500mg of test enanthate a week for 16 weeks on alongside 8 IU of gh everyday for 10 months.
I am also having an AI on hand incase estrogen is hard to manage.

When i want to come should i take hcg also including enclo or other pct?
If so what week do i start including them?

 

[fletcherp]

You only pct if you're planning on never taking steroids again, or need to come off temporarily for medical reasons.

You should not be pcting for this cycle, instead start cruising on a lower dose of testosterone.

All that being said, if you ever do pct, I'd take enclo.

For hcg, you have two ways to run this.
1. always at a low dose to keep balls from atrophying.
2. for 2 weeks at a high dose after your last pin before you pct.

All this being said dude, is this your first cycle?
How often do you plan on dosing your test?
Do you plan to titrate any of this?
Have you got any bloods done?

 

[frazzledrip]

You only pct if you're planning on never taking steroids again, or need to come off temporarily for medical reasons.

You should not be pcting for this cycle, instead start cruising on a lower dose of testosterone.

All that being said, if you ever do pct, I'd take enclo.

For hcg, you have two ways to run this.
1. always at a low dose to keep balls from atrophying.
2. for 2 weeks at a high dose after your last pin before you pct.

All this being said dude, is this your first cycle?
How often do you plan on dosing your test?
Do you plan to titrate any of this?
Have you got any bloods done?

This is my first and only cycle and will therefore want to preserve fertility and natural testosterone production.

I plan on dosing the test twice a week. Monday morning and Thursday evening.
I do not plan to titrate either substance, should i?

Why would i cruise at a lower dosage?
My goal is facial masculinization and going lower than 400mg/week im almost at baseline trt.

Im going to be starting the first dose of test in august, need to save up money.
Bloodwork will be took before, and every 4-6 weeks while on.

 

[fletcherp]

This is my first and only cycle and will therefore want to preserve fertility and natural testosterone production.

I plan on dosing the test twice a week. Monday morning and Thursday evening.
I do not plan to titrate either substance, should i?

Why would i cruise at a lower dosage?
My goal is facial masculinization and going lower than 400mg/week im almost at baseline trt.

Im going to be starting the first dose of test in august, need to save up money.
Bloodwork will be took before, and every 4-6 weeks while on.

fair, if it's first and only then definitely pct it.

don't titrate test, but i'd definitely titrate hgh. up hgh by 1 iu each week and start at 1iu.

for test i wouldn't do 2x/week if it's enanthate, be as regular as you can, bare minimum 3 days a week, ideally daily. that'll maximise your odds of preserving fertility/natural production.

as those are also your goals, run low dose hcg throughout the entire time, and then end hcg two weeks after your last pin, and start your pct then

 

[frazzledrip]

fair, if it's first and only then definitely pct it.

don't titrate test, but i'd definitely titrate hgh. up hgh by 1 iu each week and start at 1iu.

for test i wouldn't do 2x/week if it's enanthate, be as regular as you can, bare minimum 3 days a week, ideally daily. that'll maximise your odds of preserving fertility/natural production.

as those are also your goals, run low dose hcg throughout the entire time, and then end hcg two weeks after your last pin, and start your pct then

Solid advice, thanks.

 

[India lover 52]

fair, if it's first and only then definitely pct it.

don't titrate test, but i'd definitely titrate hgh. up hgh by 1 iu each week and start at 1iu.

for test i wouldn't do 2x/week if it's enanthate, be as regular as you can, bare minimum 3 days a week, ideally daily. that'll maximise your odds of preserving fertility/natural production.

as those are also your goals, run low dose hcg throughout the entire time, and then end hcg two weeks after your last pin, and start your pct then

start the hgh earlier if your gonna titrate so your igf levels are maxed out by the time you add test and pin frequency has no impact on pct all it does is keep your blood levels slightly more stable which doesn't really matter on a medium ester like e

 

[frazzledrip]

start the hgh earlier if your gonna titrate so your igf levels are maxed out by the time you add test and pin frequency has no impact on pct all it does is keep your blood levels slightly more stable which doesn't really matter on a medium ester like e

Thanks. So twice a week is fine.
Any opinions on pct? Low dose twice a week the entire 16 weeks. Quitting two weeks after last pin. Starting enclo after hcg.

 

[India lover 52]

Thanks. So twice a week is fine.
Any opinions on pct? Low dose twice a week the entire 16 weeks. Quitting two weeks after last pin. Starting enclo after hcg.

hcg + enclo will work pretty well but make sure to get your e2 levels checked, if your e2 is still high when you start enclo it won't be as effective