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Intro
You can do anything you want as long as it’s legal. But that doesn’t mean people are obligated to tolerate it. I’m a firm believer in consequences matching actions. If one is able to threaten the peace of others and get away scot-free, there is absolutely zero incentive for them to change the way they are. I mean, why would they?
If I were to share my view on abortion without going for the moral posturing route of “life begins at conception”, then it would sound like this: If I’m being brutally honest, I’m mainly pro-life because I believe women should face consequences for their lack of awareness of the consequences of hoeing around. In that way, the child that they’ll carry will be a “stain” from their impulsive life choices (given that they're "single"), a warning to any man that cares the slightest about their own peace of mind. (If you want to debate me on this, do so in DMs because I’m not wasting my time on any aura farming nonsense. I only care about the truth here.)
Reconciliation is not something I believe in either, as it undermines the full impact of the consequences and the development of a sense of accountability. Basically, “If only you didn’t do “x”, none of this would’ve happened”. Life is a continuous, uninterrupted sequence of events. The belief that there are isolated moments is pure cope. Thus, any cruelty I show towards any particular user here is completely justified.
When someone lacks competence but has the self-awareness to realize it, I actually respect that and show restraint towards them. But if they exhibit amoeba-tier sentience or the Dunning-Kruger effect, then I have no problem being cruel towards them. Albeit engaging with such people at all would already be a massive courtesy from my part. That would be like rolling with a pig in their own shit. The funny thing is I’m still willing to rep people who disagree with me, given that it’s actually constructive. But most critiques are from people who don’t have even basic reading comprehension skills or base their arguments on a strawman and resort to ad hominem. By default, I don’t single out any particular user here, and I don’t make it personal until you make it personal. I don’t mind the “DNRs” and “greycel” comments much either, because if I also cared only about post and rep count, I would do the same too. Obviously, such a cutthroat mentality I outlined is not practical on a societal level, but more geared towards pure individual self-preservation in a theoretical sense.
Certain upbringings reinforce delusion
Once again, this’ll be another anecdotal-heavy thread like my last one. In my previous thread, I brought up a story about a chess rivalry back in elementary school with a guy in my class who came from a wealthy family.
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A sizable portion of cunts here probably weren’t even born when this happened. I doubt he ever had any regrets about bullshitting his way to a “win” when he has the family wealth to save his ass from every mistake. Working and being talented are optional for him. He could be sitting at an exotic beach sipping margaritas anytime he wants. When there are no negative consequences for his bullshittery, the positive feedback loop will continue for him. To this day, he’s probably still in bluepill la-la land and I’m the one who had to take the blackpill from doing things straight.
Family upbringing plays a huge role in one’s willingness to change, and many tend to reinforce delusion. Some autist for the strangest reason thought my chess rivalry story was a “larp”, even though there is little social benefit in sharing such a story. Not to mention, this is a site where your worth is heavily determined by looks and how much you claim to “slay”. But to be fair, he sounds like one of those kids who’s parents got him to read only academic journals from a young age in hopes of them becoming “smart”, only for them to end up as an “inverse cripple”, as Nietzsche coined it (similar to a one-trick pony). The end result is someone with the sense of humor of a dead fish and no ability to detect humanistic nuance or juggle abstract thoughts, as they’re only able to do things by the book. In other words, their intuition is nonexistent and that of a failed Einstein wannabe. Einstein didn’t compute numbers for years to dream up his Theory of Relativity. He saw the answer in a flash before the derivation of its equation. That’s sentience: seeing patterns others miss on the first try. Calling a story a “larp” because it doesn’t fit your textbook logic is basically an admission of your limitations,”MuH sTeP bY sTeP”. If I wanted to “larp”, I could’ve easily made a thread about how a virgin stacy winked at me at the public mall, that I took her virginity in the female toilets, and I’m going to be a father next April without having to pay child support. I had plenty of opportunities to make up such stories by now and get far more engagement. Yet I didn’t go that route because there's something called "conscience".
Regardless of IQ, too many people here have crippingly low sentience, regardless of how well “educated” they were. Some of them act like unwarranted asshats then make a rope thread expecting people to care. Even the so-called “smart” ones here are too much of a low-functioning autist to have the self-awareness to realize that. Hence, they’re basically stuck in an infinite loop of doomerism and will barely ever change. Since autists often struggle to understand non-literal language, it makes complete sense that they would misinterpret what I say and start unintentionally strawmanning. How mods here can even handle so much retardation on a daily basis is beyond me. I would need to have Jesus-level compassion to stay sane in their shoes.
High school “rivalries”
In a Platonic ideal, I firmly believe that the person who started an altercation should have all the moral burden imposed upon them. After all, they’re the ones who disrupted the harmony of rational order and started the domino effect. If they only minded their own business, none of the problems that followed would’ve happened. Hence, I’m never the one to apologize first, because why should I when I was only minding my own business? Although my fear of being a cuck often means I go for a vengeful retaliation, where if someone punches me first, I have the urge to punch them two or more times. This is where it gets complicated, and even then, I wouldn’t be willing to apologize first. If everyone minded their own business, I could spend the rest of my life not attacking anyone again. But this is reality, not a platonic heaven.
In the shitlib west, they tend to punish the victim more than the bully themselves. Hence, the impulsive ones continue being assholes for longer because their punishment is not severe enough to disrupt their positive feedback loop. During high school I wasn’t exactly an abused dog in the traditional sense of having my head shoved into a locker by the jock. But I did have many “rivalries” that hardened my emotions and made me more callous.
During high school when I was 14, one time this guy who hung out in my social circle started calling me a “pussy” multiple times to the point of literally spitting on my face because I was socially passive. When I finally lost my patience with him, I punched him in the jaw. He then had the audacity to complain to me that his jaw hurt. No shit? His female friend saw what happened and threatened to report me to the teachers. Bitch what did you expect me to do? Just sit there and do nothing? These shitlibs have a garbage grasp of logic. They don’t understand that men have something called “dignity”. Once it’s threatened, you can’t expect them to be all peaceful and open-hearted. It’s just basic cause and effect. But nah women don’t give jack shit about that. Although one of my friends who witnessed it even encouraged me to beat him up. The guy that I punched in the jaw should realize that I’m doing him a favor in the long run. If he acted like that towards some random thug with zero restraint, it would instead be a brass knuckle to the face, if not a bullet to the head.
Another incident was when a guy who sat next to me in one of my classes started trolling me. He would often slap my head with a book for no reason when I minded my own business, and so we started getting into a bit of a feud. What really pushed me over the edge was when he stole one of my pens. I demanded that he give it back to me, but instead, he played dumb. So I waited till class was over to get my revenge on him. When I saw him about to walk away, we made eye contact, he giggled (lmao), and that was when I sprinted towards him, yanked him towards me and punched him in the arm. Just like the other guy, he whined about the pain. But I didn’t care. He stole my pen, and punching him was the least I could do. Inb4 “it’s just a pen bro”. That’s not really the point. The point is, I don’t like people messing with me and thinking they can get away scot-free. Just like the chess match, it was also about sending a message. Unfortunately, I got sent up to the principal’s office the next day along with him, funnily enough. How? Because my punch left a bruise on his arm severe enough that his parents noticed. Luckily, we both only got a warning. In the end, I felt it was worth it because he never tried trolling me in class again. Sometimes, violence really can solve some problems. But ultimately, it’ll get you in trouble with the law when you’re older. The bitter truth is the law doesn’t give two shits about your dignity. The only “winning” move is to eliminate as many “low-value” people from your life to prioritise your peace of mind.
"5-second rule":
I wrote about a similar phenomenon in this thread:
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Why I don’t do “second chances”
I used to be friends with this guy who would often be naively optimistic and think that people can change over a summer/winter school break alone. When we were playing Minecraft together on a private server run by another person, he wanted to invite this guy who I thought was an annoying douchebag and bit of a psychopath. This was when we were 13 and had just started high school. Even though I told my friend that the guy was in the same class as me, he was adamant that “people change”. Bro, no one mellows out at 13. Shits only just getting started (even most 23 yr olds aren't much better either). And I was right. Not long after, that douchebag starts sabotaging our game to the point my friend rage quitted and said he won’t come back till that guy got banned from the server.
That guy then accused me of “blackmailing” and “stalking” him when I said I took screenshots of him threatening me JFL. But the thing was, I had no intention of dangling him on the edge for fun. I wanted to report him to the server owner straight away so I could get him banned and to "avenge" my friend. And so I did, no toying or any bullshit.
Yet he called me a “snitch” when he got banned just because I was prioritizing my peace of mind over mindless chaos. I mean yeah, that guy had a rough childhood, claiming that his father would hit him with a belt for punishment. But that doesn’t excuse him being an absolute asshat towards me. I’m not responsible for your trauma, nor is anyone owed anything simply for existing (except women it seems). Funny thing is, I don’t really have much of a problem with people venting to me, until they start giving me an attitude about it.
Giving second chances has never really been part of my “brand”. Yet miraculously, I still hung out with him for another year until I reached a breaking point and gathered some of my friends to collectively tell him to “fuck off” on a Skype call. Not surprisingly, he would act passively-aggressively towards me for the rest of high school, even though I never uttered a single word nor made eye contact with him once the whole time. Meanwhile, all I had to do was pretend he didn’t exist, silently mog him in school, and my mere existence would’ve been enough to make him seethe.
Despite all that chaos and drama, my friend still held onto the same rose-tinted glasses well into college, “You’re fighting with John’s past”. Some people have spent thousands of dollars on therapy well into their 20s, and still don’t have the common sense to understand that for instance, making fun of a friend’s dead pet isn’t exactly the best way to keep their respect. Yet others still make excuses for them, “John’s just being John”. That’s like Jesus-level compassion to me, if not absolute insanity. There is also a “5-second rule” when it comes to calling out people on their bullshit. In my experience, when enough time has passed and I try to confront someone for something they’ve done to me, it’s always along the lines of, “It’s been “x” months/years. Past is past”. Yet their general behaviour and negative habits persist. Just like how religion can be used to escape accountability via “God loves me”, the same can be done with Father Time itself.
I consider myself a very sentimental person at the core. Yet once you’ve crossed enough lines, you better not let me know you’re roping because I’m the type to fist pump from it. My kindness has limits. I’m a peace lover, so much to the point where if the concept of peace itself was a woman, I'd fuck her senseless and have 10+ kids with her whilst living in a remote farm. But not many realize that the type of peace that matters the most requires a degree of callousness. “It is better to be a warrior in a garden, than a gardener in war” - Miyamoto Musashi
People can change, yes. But I’m not willing to babysit someone for the next 15-20 years until they’re able to behave like a rational person. I’d rather be completely alone than continue to endure their clownery. In 15-20 years, most of us will already be past our primes. If they’re ever going to be a rational person, they should be one now. Otherwise, I've got my own life to deal with in the meantime.
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TL;DR: Should be a water thread, but you’d be surprised at the actual consensus. People only really change when their current behaviour no longer benefits them. A lot of habits and behaviours that persist are because of an ongoing positive feedback loop. Hence why bullies at school rarely ever change because often all they get is a slap on the wrist. Certain upbringings reinforce this positive feedback loop and fuel delusion, creating "low-sentience" types who misinterpret reality and lean on excuses like ‘God loves me’ or ‘time heals all.’ Consequences for one’s actions and refusal to give second chances should be emphasized. Obviously, such callousness is not practical on a societal level, but necessary for peace of mind on an individual one.
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You can do anything you want as long as it’s legal. But that doesn’t mean people are obligated to tolerate it. I’m a firm believer in consequences matching actions. If one is able to threaten the peace of others and get away scot-free, there is absolutely zero incentive for them to change the way they are. I mean, why would they?
If I were to share my view on abortion without going for the moral posturing route of “life begins at conception”, then it would sound like this: If I’m being brutally honest, I’m mainly pro-life because I believe women should face consequences for their lack of awareness of the consequences of hoeing around. In that way, the child that they’ll carry will be a “stain” from their impulsive life choices (given that they're "single"), a warning to any man that cares the slightest about their own peace of mind. (If you want to debate me on this, do so in DMs because I’m not wasting my time on any aura farming nonsense. I only care about the truth here.)
Reconciliation is not something I believe in either, as it undermines the full impact of the consequences and the development of a sense of accountability. Basically, “If only you didn’t do “x”, none of this would’ve happened”. Life is a continuous, uninterrupted sequence of events. The belief that there are isolated moments is pure cope. Thus, any cruelty I show towards any particular user here is completely justified.
When someone lacks competence but has the self-awareness to realize it, I actually respect that and show restraint towards them. But if they exhibit amoeba-tier sentience or the Dunning-Kruger effect, then I have no problem being cruel towards them. Albeit engaging with such people at all would already be a massive courtesy from my part. That would be like rolling with a pig in their own shit. The funny thing is I’m still willing to rep people who disagree with me, given that it’s actually constructive. But most critiques are from people who don’t have even basic reading comprehension skills or base their arguments on a strawman and resort to ad hominem. By default, I don’t single out any particular user here, and I don’t make it personal until you make it personal. I don’t mind the “DNRs” and “greycel” comments much either, because if I also cared only about post and rep count, I would do the same too. Obviously, such a cutthroat mentality I outlined is not practical on a societal level, but more geared towards pure individual self-preservation in a theoretical sense.
Certain upbringings reinforce delusion
Once again, this’ll be another anecdotal-heavy thread like my last one. In my previous thread, I brought up a story about a chess rivalry back in elementary school with a guy in my class who came from a wealthy family.
Crowds are dangerous if you care about the truth in the slightest
Intro The simplest way I can illustrate to you why crowds are problematic is to think of a woman you’re interested in. But the problem is, she’ll likely have friends who often give her unsolicited input on guys that she’s seeing. You don’t know what kind of values her friends have. They could...
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A sizable portion of cunts here probably weren’t even born when this happened. I doubt he ever had any regrets about bullshitting his way to a “win” when he has the family wealth to save his ass from every mistake. Working and being talented are optional for him. He could be sitting at an exotic beach sipping margaritas anytime he wants. When there are no negative consequences for his bullshittery, the positive feedback loop will continue for him. To this day, he’s probably still in bluepill la-la land and I’m the one who had to take the blackpill from doing things straight.
Family upbringing plays a huge role in one’s willingness to change, and many tend to reinforce delusion. Some autist for the strangest reason thought my chess rivalry story was a “larp”, even though there is little social benefit in sharing such a story. Not to mention, this is a site where your worth is heavily determined by looks and how much you claim to “slay”. But to be fair, he sounds like one of those kids who’s parents got him to read only academic journals from a young age in hopes of them becoming “smart”, only for them to end up as an “inverse cripple”, as Nietzsche coined it (similar to a one-trick pony). The end result is someone with the sense of humor of a dead fish and no ability to detect humanistic nuance or juggle abstract thoughts, as they’re only able to do things by the book. In other words, their intuition is nonexistent and that of a failed Einstein wannabe. Einstein didn’t compute numbers for years to dream up his Theory of Relativity. He saw the answer in a flash before the derivation of its equation. That’s sentience: seeing patterns others miss on the first try. Calling a story a “larp” because it doesn’t fit your textbook logic is basically an admission of your limitations,”MuH sTeP bY sTeP”. If I wanted to “larp”, I could’ve easily made a thread about how a virgin stacy winked at me at the public mall, that I took her virginity in the female toilets, and I’m going to be a father next April without having to pay child support. I had plenty of opportunities to make up such stories by now and get far more engagement. Yet I didn’t go that route because there's something called "conscience".
Regardless of IQ, too many people here have crippingly low sentience, regardless of how well “educated” they were. Some of them act like unwarranted asshats then make a rope thread expecting people to care. Even the so-called “smart” ones here are too much of a low-functioning autist to have the self-awareness to realize that. Hence, they’re basically stuck in an infinite loop of doomerism and will barely ever change. Since autists often struggle to understand non-literal language, it makes complete sense that they would misinterpret what I say and start unintentionally strawmanning. How mods here can even handle so much retardation on a daily basis is beyond me. I would need to have Jesus-level compassion to stay sane in their shoes.
High school “rivalries”
In a Platonic ideal, I firmly believe that the person who started an altercation should have all the moral burden imposed upon them. After all, they’re the ones who disrupted the harmony of rational order and started the domino effect. If they only minded their own business, none of the problems that followed would’ve happened. Hence, I’m never the one to apologize first, because why should I when I was only minding my own business? Although my fear of being a cuck often means I go for a vengeful retaliation, where if someone punches me first, I have the urge to punch them two or more times. This is where it gets complicated, and even then, I wouldn’t be willing to apologize first. If everyone minded their own business, I could spend the rest of my life not attacking anyone again. But this is reality, not a platonic heaven.
In the shitlib west, they tend to punish the victim more than the bully themselves. Hence, the impulsive ones continue being assholes for longer because their punishment is not severe enough to disrupt their positive feedback loop. During high school I wasn’t exactly an abused dog in the traditional sense of having my head shoved into a locker by the jock. But I did have many “rivalries” that hardened my emotions and made me more callous.
During high school when I was 14, one time this guy who hung out in my social circle started calling me a “pussy” multiple times to the point of literally spitting on my face because I was socially passive. When I finally lost my patience with him, I punched him in the jaw. He then had the audacity to complain to me that his jaw hurt. No shit? His female friend saw what happened and threatened to report me to the teachers. Bitch what did you expect me to do? Just sit there and do nothing? These shitlibs have a garbage grasp of logic. They don’t understand that men have something called “dignity”. Once it’s threatened, you can’t expect them to be all peaceful and open-hearted. It’s just basic cause and effect. But nah women don’t give jack shit about that. Although one of my friends who witnessed it even encouraged me to beat him up. The guy that I punched in the jaw should realize that I’m doing him a favor in the long run. If he acted like that towards some random thug with zero restraint, it would instead be a brass knuckle to the face, if not a bullet to the head.
Another incident was when a guy who sat next to me in one of my classes started trolling me. He would often slap my head with a book for no reason when I minded my own business, and so we started getting into a bit of a feud. What really pushed me over the edge was when he stole one of my pens. I demanded that he give it back to me, but instead, he played dumb. So I waited till class was over to get my revenge on him. When I saw him about to walk away, we made eye contact, he giggled (lmao), and that was when I sprinted towards him, yanked him towards me and punched him in the arm. Just like the other guy, he whined about the pain. But I didn’t care. He stole my pen, and punching him was the least I could do. Inb4 “it’s just a pen bro”. That’s not really the point. The point is, I don’t like people messing with me and thinking they can get away scot-free. Just like the chess match, it was also about sending a message. Unfortunately, I got sent up to the principal’s office the next day along with him, funnily enough. How? Because my punch left a bruise on his arm severe enough that his parents noticed. Luckily, we both only got a warning. In the end, I felt it was worth it because he never tried trolling me in class again. Sometimes, violence really can solve some problems. But ultimately, it’ll get you in trouble with the law when you’re older. The bitter truth is the law doesn’t give two shits about your dignity. The only “winning” move is to eliminate as many “low-value” people from your life to prioritise your peace of mind.
"5-second rule":
Just like how there is a “5-second rule” when food gets dropped on the floor, there is a similar concept when it comes to retaliation. I used to be this kid who liked to get “revenge” on people who wronged me, even if it happened a while ago. It’s seen as more “evil” if one plans their retaliation as opposed to doing so spontaneously, even if the outcome might be the same. Hence, a premeditated crime is often viewed as more severe than one committed in the heat of passion. That is when being a person of restraint becomes quite cucked. You’re not accustomed to fighting back immediately, leading to resentment building up over time. And the urge to get “revenge” potentially gets out of control. The paradox is you’re punished for not acting in the moment, and instead for being too “sentient” about it.
Shitlibs like to make lot of excuses for blacks as if “they don’t know any better”, and that their acts of aggression are spontaneous and not calculated. It’s ironic how having restraint is ultimately what punished me more than people of lower sentience. They’d rather have hordes of savage brutes walking around freely than someone with a sense of dignity. I think this is exacerbated by propaganda in the media, where many movie protagonists nowadays are impulsive ditzes. Meanwhile, Hamlet-esque protagonists are slowly being wiped out from the face of the earth and are more likely depicted as antagonists or gigacucks nowadays. A prime example of the devaluation of Hamlet-esque characters is in The Lion King. This is ironic because the movie is based on Hamlet itself. The protagonist Simba, instead of being brooding and contemplative, is naive and hotheaded. While the most Hamlet-esque character is obviously the villain, Scar (cucked by chad Mufasa). I could already imagine a blackpill-inspired live-action adaptation of the movie where “6’5 chad is murdered by his envious 6’0 MTN incel brother and his son who (despite shitty diet) grows up to be a 6’3 chadlite avenges him”.
The west has little to no sense of dignity and honor anymore. Pretty much everything that once made the west respectable has been sidelined in favor of bureaucratic “fairness” and performative empathy. It’s a gigacucked existence we now live in, and I really don’t want anything to do with it anymore. Nietzsche warned us about this with his slave and master morality framework. The burden is now placed on people who have actually tried to lead a respectable life.
Shitlibs like to make lot of excuses for blacks as if “they don’t know any better”, and that their acts of aggression are spontaneous and not calculated. It’s ironic how having restraint is ultimately what punished me more than people of lower sentience. They’d rather have hordes of savage brutes walking around freely than someone with a sense of dignity. I think this is exacerbated by propaganda in the media, where many movie protagonists nowadays are impulsive ditzes. Meanwhile, Hamlet-esque protagonists are slowly being wiped out from the face of the earth and are more likely depicted as antagonists or gigacucks nowadays. A prime example of the devaluation of Hamlet-esque characters is in The Lion King. This is ironic because the movie is based on Hamlet itself. The protagonist Simba, instead of being brooding and contemplative, is naive and hotheaded. While the most Hamlet-esque character is obviously the villain, Scar (cucked by chad Mufasa). I could already imagine a blackpill-inspired live-action adaptation of the movie where “6’5 chad is murdered by his envious 6’0 MTN incel brother and his son who (despite shitty diet) grows up to be a 6’3 chadlite avenges him”.
The west has little to no sense of dignity and honor anymore. Pretty much everything that once made the west respectable has been sidelined in favor of bureaucratic “fairness” and performative empathy. It’s a gigacucked existence we now live in, and I really don’t want anything to do with it anymore. Nietzsche warned us about this with his slave and master morality framework. The burden is now placed on people who have actually tried to lead a respectable life.
I wrote about a similar phenomenon in this thread:
Being "kind" creates the potential of being seen as a bigger asshole than an actual asshole
Chaos cucks order “You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain” was the first thing I thought of when I wrote the title. (When I mean "kind", I don't mean "nice guy" but rather a state of neutrality). Previously in my megathread, I talked about being cucked by...
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Why I don’t do “second chances”
I used to be friends with this guy who would often be naively optimistic and think that people can change over a summer/winter school break alone. When we were playing Minecraft together on a private server run by another person, he wanted to invite this guy who I thought was an annoying douchebag and bit of a psychopath. This was when we were 13 and had just started high school. Even though I told my friend that the guy was in the same class as me, he was adamant that “people change”. Bro, no one mellows out at 13. Shits only just getting started (even most 23 yr olds aren't much better either). And I was right. Not long after, that douchebag starts sabotaging our game to the point my friend rage quitted and said he won’t come back till that guy got banned from the server.
That guy then accused me of “blackmailing” and “stalking” him when I said I took screenshots of him threatening me JFL. But the thing was, I had no intention of dangling him on the edge for fun. I wanted to report him to the server owner straight away so I could get him banned and to "avenge" my friend. And so I did, no toying or any bullshit.
Yet he called me a “snitch” when he got banned just because I was prioritizing my peace of mind over mindless chaos. I mean yeah, that guy had a rough childhood, claiming that his father would hit him with a belt for punishment. But that doesn’t excuse him being an absolute asshat towards me. I’m not responsible for your trauma, nor is anyone owed anything simply for existing (except women it seems). Funny thing is, I don’t really have much of a problem with people venting to me, until they start giving me an attitude about it.
Giving second chances has never really been part of my “brand”. Yet miraculously, I still hung out with him for another year until I reached a breaking point and gathered some of my friends to collectively tell him to “fuck off” on a Skype call. Not surprisingly, he would act passively-aggressively towards me for the rest of high school, even though I never uttered a single word nor made eye contact with him once the whole time. Meanwhile, all I had to do was pretend he didn’t exist, silently mog him in school, and my mere existence would’ve been enough to make him seethe.
Despite all that chaos and drama, my friend still held onto the same rose-tinted glasses well into college, “You’re fighting with John’s past”. Some people have spent thousands of dollars on therapy well into their 20s, and still don’t have the common sense to understand that for instance, making fun of a friend’s dead pet isn’t exactly the best way to keep their respect. Yet others still make excuses for them, “John’s just being John”. That’s like Jesus-level compassion to me, if not absolute insanity. There is also a “5-second rule” when it comes to calling out people on their bullshit. In my experience, when enough time has passed and I try to confront someone for something they’ve done to me, it’s always along the lines of, “It’s been “x” months/years. Past is past”. Yet their general behaviour and negative habits persist. Just like how religion can be used to escape accountability via “God loves me”, the same can be done with Father Time itself.
I consider myself a very sentimental person at the core. Yet once you’ve crossed enough lines, you better not let me know you’re roping because I’m the type to fist pump from it. My kindness has limits. I’m a peace lover, so much to the point where if the concept of peace itself was a woman, I'd fuck her senseless and have 10+ kids with her whilst living in a remote farm. But not many realize that the type of peace that matters the most requires a degree of callousness. “It is better to be a warrior in a garden, than a gardener in war” - Miyamoto Musashi
People can change, yes. But I’m not willing to babysit someone for the next 15-20 years until they’re able to behave like a rational person. I’d rather be completely alone than continue to endure their clownery. In 15-20 years, most of us will already be past our primes. If they’re ever going to be a rational person, they should be one now. Otherwise, I've got my own life to deal with in the meantime.
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A woman’s “past”
I put this under “extras” since it doesn’t flow well with the rest of the thread, and I felt like the thread was already getting too long. Inb4 “no looks for your first”. For clarification, JBF (“Just Be First”) doesn’t matter for casual slays. But when you’re waking up next to the same woman every day for the rest of your life? I would only ever marry a woman if they contribute to my peace of mind, rather than compete with it. Otherwise, marriage is ultra-cucked for the most part, and I would rather be alone. Somehow, this is still a controversial and debatable topic when it really shouldn’t be when it comes to marriage and LTRs. “Just focus on her character bro.” Her sexual history is part of her character and a potential “war” you’ll have to deal with. “But muh emotional support and shared goals”. You can already do that with your bros.
I see loss of virginity in a woman as a blood ritual almost, and the man’s penis is the “blade” to draw blood from the woman. That completes the “ritual”, having her body release the maximum amount of oxytocin, creating the strongest pair-bond she’ll ever have. A woman’s pair-bonding ability is like glass. Once it’s broken, it’ll never be the same again for any other man. Hence, it can be seen as “marriage” in the most primordial form. “Just mog her first bro, her first might have a small dick”. A blade is still a blade, even if it’s mini scissors or a 4-inch kitchen knife. When someone gets stabbed, no one asks if the blade is okay; they ask the person. People seem to forget that a penis is also used for peeing, and it gets inserted into a place where blood comes out of monthly and is for giving birth. The fact that it doesn’t faze some guys when another man did that to their woman before them is unhinged to me.
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A woman saying that their loss of virginity is not a “big deal” is almost like saying that being stabbed through the hand is also not a “big deal”. Physically, maybe it’s not the best analogy, but emotionally? That’s where the issue lies. Women tend to overestimate their own free will and think that it doesn’t bind them to the man who took their virginity. They could downplay their past all they want and pretend it never happened. But the thing is, “Unexpressed emotions will never die. They are buried alive and will come forth later in uglier ways.” - Sigmund Freud
Some might argue that they don’t feel much towards that man. But that’s another red flag because it shows the woman can emotionally detach from any man at will, and you would be no exception. At that point they’re either psychopathic or a broken bitch. Of course, most non-virgin women don’t find any problem with their past because there’s rarely any man who would list non-virginity as a LTR dealbreaker out loud. And even if a man does, it most likely won’t be chad or someone she’s obsessed with and afraid of losing. Hence, the consequences of her past never really sink in, and the positive feedback loop keeps on going. They’ll continue to justify their lifestyle and say “past is past”.
I put this under “extras” since it doesn’t flow well with the rest of the thread, and I felt like the thread was already getting too long. Inb4 “no looks for your first”. For clarification, JBF (“Just Be First”) doesn’t matter for casual slays. But when you’re waking up next to the same woman every day for the rest of your life? I would only ever marry a woman if they contribute to my peace of mind, rather than compete with it. Otherwise, marriage is ultra-cucked for the most part, and I would rather be alone. Somehow, this is still a controversial and debatable topic when it really shouldn’t be when it comes to marriage and LTRs. “Just focus on her character bro.” Her sexual history is part of her character and a potential “war” you’ll have to deal with. “But muh emotional support and shared goals”. You can already do that with your bros.
I see loss of virginity in a woman as a blood ritual almost, and the man’s penis is the “blade” to draw blood from the woman. That completes the “ritual”, having her body release the maximum amount of oxytocin, creating the strongest pair-bond she’ll ever have. A woman’s pair-bonding ability is like glass. Once it’s broken, it’ll never be the same again for any other man. Hence, it can be seen as “marriage” in the most primordial form. “Just mog her first bro, her first might have a small dick”. A blade is still a blade, even if it’s mini scissors or a 4-inch kitchen knife. When someone gets stabbed, no one asks if the blade is okay; they ask the person. People seem to forget that a penis is also used for peeing, and it gets inserted into a place where blood comes out of monthly and is for giving birth. The fact that it doesn’t faze some guys when another man did that to their woman before them is unhinged to me.
The significance of the “Just Be First (JBF)” theory
Intro Before the advent of fame, glory, arts and culture, a man that lived in prehistoric times only had two circumstances where they could immortalise themselves. First is by being the one to take a woman's virginity and imprint themselves on their sexual psyche (not just psychologically but...
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A woman saying that their loss of virginity is not a “big deal” is almost like saying that being stabbed through the hand is also not a “big deal”. Physically, maybe it’s not the best analogy, but emotionally? That’s where the issue lies. Women tend to overestimate their own free will and think that it doesn’t bind them to the man who took their virginity. They could downplay their past all they want and pretend it never happened. But the thing is, “Unexpressed emotions will never die. They are buried alive and will come forth later in uglier ways.” - Sigmund Freud
Some might argue that they don’t feel much towards that man. But that’s another red flag because it shows the woman can emotionally detach from any man at will, and you would be no exception. At that point they’re either psychopathic or a broken bitch. Of course, most non-virgin women don’t find any problem with their past because there’s rarely any man who would list non-virginity as a LTR dealbreaker out loud. And even if a man does, it most likely won’t be chad or someone she’s obsessed with and afraid of losing. Hence, the consequences of her past never really sink in, and the positive feedback loop keeps on going. They’ll continue to justify their lifestyle and say “past is past”.
TL;DR: Should be a water thread, but you’d be surprised at the actual consensus. People only really change when their current behaviour no longer benefits them. A lot of habits and behaviours that persist are because of an ongoing positive feedback loop. Hence why bullies at school rarely ever change because often all they get is a slap on the wrist. Certain upbringings reinforce this positive feedback loop and fuel delusion, creating "low-sentience" types who misinterpret reality and lean on excuses like ‘God loves me’ or ‘time heals all.’ Consequences for one’s actions and refusal to give second chances should be emphasized. Obviously, such callousness is not practical on a societal level, but necessary for peace of mind on an individual one.
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