People really heard "tren grows bone" and ran with it

[Bitchwhipper2]

I don't think there's any reason for tren to grow bone more than any other steroid assuming that they do this in any real capacity to begin with.

People just think that shit does everything. The flex tape of steroids

 

[Sceptical]

ghkcu for bonemass and reta for igf1 signalling

 

[fraudster#1]

idk bro

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

ghkcu for bonemass and reta for igf1 signalling

Any updates on the leanmaxxing/looksmaxxing/bloatmaxxing or whatever you're up to nowadays?

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

ghkcu for bonemass and reta for igf1 signalling

Any updates on the leanmaxxing/looksmaxxing/bloatmaxxing or whatever you're up to nowadays

Brutal double reply

 

[Sceptical]

Any updates on the leanmaxxing/looksmaxxing/bloatmaxxing or whatever you're up to nowadays?

ive dropped 13 pounds from my pathetic attempts at leanmaxing so far and lately hit a plateau so i might have to increase my tdee or cut cals even more

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

idk bro
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"Skeletal muscle" bro

 

[Lonely]

I don't think there's any reason for tren to grow bone more than any other steroid assuming that they do this in any real capacity to begin with.

People just think that shit does everything. The flex tape of steroids

It did for me

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

It did for me

Maybe it did. But how do you know it was tren in particular

How do you know you're not just a massive coper like 99% of people aswell. Really ask yourself these questions.

There's a reason people think that raw milk and eggs gave them bone growth, and it's not because anything actually happened

 

[fraudster#1]

"Skeletal muscle" bro

 

[Lonely]

Maybe it did. But how do you know it was tren in particular

How do you know you're not just a massive coper like 99% of people aswell. Really ask yourself these questions.

There's a reason people think that raw milk and eggs gave them bone growth, and it's not because anything actually happened

Because before hopping on I had shit bones, and then after I had good bones. And nothing else changed in between

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

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Any androgen will have a theoretical effect on bone morphology.
Tren being a strong androgen doesn't mean it'll have any special effect on bone though. Just means that you need less mgs to achieve the same effect.

We know this to be the case for muscle growth, where tren does NOT outperform high dose testosterone when it comes to just putting on mass despite it being stronger on paper.

If it were just strong androgen = big bones, then ment would be giving me horns atp

 

[brotato78]

it increases igf1 sensitivity

pair it w sublingual sugar (or rectal) and bonesmashing then ur basically set to become chad

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

Because before hopping on I had shit bones, and then after I had good bones. And nothing else changed in between

There's a reason people think that raw milk and eggs gave them bone growth, and it's not because anything actually happened

This is what we are running in to though.

I do not trust anyone's ability to self asses really anything especially in regards to bone

 

[Lonely]

This is what we are running in to though.

I do not trust anyone's ability to self asses really anything especially in regards to bone

You can assess me. I have before and after

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

You can assess me. I have before and after

Sure. I hope they're same angle and lighting or whatever

 

[fraudster#1]

Any androgen will have a theoretical effect on bone morphology.
Tren being a strong androgen doesn't mean it'll have any special effect on bone though. Just means that you need less mgs to achieve the same effect.

We know this to be the case for muscle growth, where tren does NOT outperform high dose testosterone when it comes to just putting on mass despite it being stronger on paper.

If it were just strong androgen = big bones, then ment would be giving me horns atp

tren is pretty more selective on bone androgens receptors than every other compund

and ment does to the fact have a strong conversion to estrogen DOES not grow bones
E2 literally block periosteal aposition (mechanism that actually grow and widen bones)

2nc mechanism
Tren also upregulates IGF expression

Which is very important for craniofacial morphology

Other mechanism is being in the same level of androgenicity of DHT

 

[lnceIs]

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and ment does to the fact have a strong conversion to estrogen DOES not grow bones
E2 literally block periosteal aposition (mechanism that actually grow and widen bones)
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2nc mechanism
Tren also upregulates IGF expression
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Other mechanism is being in the same level of androgenicity of DHT
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Low IQ.

 

[fraudster#1]

Low IQ.

 

[inceliusndius]

ghkcu for bonemass and reta for igf1 signalling

U Forgot bpc 157 for fkrward growth

 

[davidlaidisme67]

ive dropped 13 pounds from my pathetic attempts at leanmaxing so far and lately hit a plateau so i might have to increase my tdee or cut cals even more

You could use dnp or bam 15

 

[SoundnVision]

It grows MPB

 

[avenox]

ghkcu for bonemass and reta for igf1 signalling

Dih for sucking

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

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View attachment 5039230View attachment 5039231 tren is pretty more selective on bone androgens receptors than every other compund

and ment does to the fact have a strong conversion to estrogen DOES not grow bones
E2 literally block periosteal aposition (mechanism that actually grow and widen bones)
View attachment 5039263View attachment 5039264

2nc mechanism
Tren also upregulates IGF expression
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Other mechanism is being in the same level of androgenicity of DHT
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Literally every androgen interacts with igf-1 signalling.
The literature you're showing is not comparitive so it's saying nothing about tren in particular.

Everything you posted boils down to androgens are Net positive on bone and tren is a very strong androgen. Nothing more

Still no reason to believe tren is special. If it were according to the only applicable logic to justify tren, then ment with an AI would be the real bone steroid which it's obviously not

 

[fraudster#1]

Literally every androgen interacts with igf-1 signalling.
The literature you're showing is not comparitive so it's saying nothing about tren in particular.

Everything you posted boils down to androgens are Net positive on bone and tren is a very strong androgen. Nothing more

Still no reason to believe tren is special. If it were according to the only applicable logic to justify tren, then ment with an AI would be the real bone steroid which it's obviously not

"androgens are not positive on bones"
when it's the primarily drival of bone growth

And yes ment can be applicated in a sort form of pubertymaxxing, but most of the ppl cant run it

 

[infrainfra]

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View attachment 5039230View attachment 5039231 tren is pretty more selective on bone androgens receptors than every other compund

and ment does to the fact have a strong conversion to estrogen DOES not grow bones
E2 literally block periosteal aposition (mechanism that actually grow and widen bones)
View attachment 5039263View attachment 5039264

2nc mechanism
Tren also upregulates IGF expression
View attachment 5039279 Which is very important for craniofacial morphology
View attachment 5039284

Other mechanism is being in the same level of androgenicity of DHT
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dude you only showed studies on skeletal MUSCLE CELLS IN A PETRI DISH not bone


show me one single study where trenbolone interacts with whatever in bone

 

[fraudster#1]

dude you only showed studies on skeletal MUSCLE CELLS IN A PETRI DISH not bone


show me one single study where trenbolone interacts with whatever in bone

marked as yellow

 

[infrainfra]

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nice but that is the case with every single androgen buddy. deca has been used for osteoporosis afaik - does that make it the best bone compound? halo and var stimulate linear growth in kids does that mean they are the best height inducing androgens ? its the case with every single androgen causing on set puberty

 

[user20266741]

ghkcu for bonemass and reta for igf1 signalling

Nah bro, sugar and milk is how you really Get them bones

 

[fraudster#1]

nice but that is the case with every single androgen buddy. deca has been used for osteoporosis afaik - does that make it the best bone compound? halo and var stimulate linear growth in kids does that mean they are the best height inducing androgens ? its the case with every single androgen causing on set puberty

loud and wrong
deca is a osteoporosis compund does to increase BMD, which bone density, not real bone widening/growth
tren otherwise shows (in the text) augment skeletal muscle AND bone growth

 

[infrainfra]

loud and wrong
deca is a osteoporosis compund does to increase BMD, which bone density, not real bone widening/growth
tren otherwise shows (in the text) augment skeletal muscle AND bone growth

that could be said with anything. anavar increases linear growth velocity in 10 year olds - so it boosts bine growth. trenbolone persevered cortical bone thickness in castrated rats or smth like that. thats why they said that. show me a study that tren actually “boosts” bone growth. rats , cattle whatever

 

[fraudster#1]

that could be said with anything. anavar increases linear growth velocity in 10 year olds - so it boosts bine growth. trenbolone persevered cortical bone thickness in castrated rats or smth like that. thats why they said that. show me a study that tren actually “boosts” bone growth. rats , cattle whatever

anavar dont promote any bone growth, the mecanism of height improve is does to no estrogen conversion and slowing bone age advancement

 

[infrainfra]

anavar dont promote any bone growth, the mecanism of height improve is does to no estrogen conversion and slowing bone age advancement

it does increase linear growth velocity speed but thats just the same case with every single androgen