People say I have no home, brootal

yeah I believe they have the some of the highest steppe in the region no?
As a concentrated group? Yeah. There are some families outside of ossetia who might have more but they aren't concentrated.
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This is an ossetian dude for reference

A lot of diaspora hate on Russia for what they did to us kavkazi but in fact they protected us from being raped and pillaged by muslims jfl, my people circassians were sold as sex slaves to ottomans because we looked white but under russia we were left alone
 
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If you’re white-passing, everyone’s dying to claim you. I saw a white-passing South Asian and in the comments people were glazing them hard. “I thought you were Persian!” “I thought you were Chechen like me!” “I thought you were Levantine like me!” Etc, etc. Ain’t nobody claiming if someone’s a shitskin like me. :ROFLMAO:
dude genuinely zohran mamdanis comment section were genuine all full of persians and other races tryna claim him

also judging by ur hand pic u aren't that brown urself
 
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No, I didn’t call them white, I just call them Europeans. If you read what I wrote, I said “white-passing,” I didn’t say they were white just because they were from the Balkans.

And yeah I am aware of Italians, South Italians actually have MENA admixture from the Levant mainly.

But you should remember that terms like Iranic and Arabic are based on linguistics. Since we already mentioned Ossetians, they are linguistically Iranic but genetically they are Caucasian.

I read about it recently that’s why I know about this. I don’t have an agenda here or anything.
Ossetians are genetically Iranian, they look nothing like georgians jfl, georgians have bug eyes in their phenotype ossetians don't. Matter of fact ossetian language shouldn't even be considered linguistically the same as the language spoken in southern Iran which is basically arabic with some loanwords
 
balkans are not more brown than arabs brah :lul:
This sounds like an albanian wrote it, the only white balkans are serbs, slovenes and some croats the rest look brown as hell

You can thank their ancestors who took ottoman men for that
 
dude genuinely zohran mamdanis comment section were genuine all full of persians and other races tryna claim him

also judging by ur hand pic u aren't that brown urself
I hate it when non-whites do that. Normally they’re quick to shit on South Asians in general. Who knows though, he might have actual MENA ancestry because some Islamic Indians do have such ancestry.
 
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Ossetians are genetically Iranian, they look nothing like georgians jfl, georgians have bug eyes in their phenotype ossetians don't. Matter of fact ossetian language shouldn't even be considered linguistically the same as the language spoken in southern Iran which is basically arabic with some loanwords
I just googled and this is what it says:

“Ossetian genetics reveal a unique, complex ancestry mixing indigenous Caucasian, Indo-Iranian, and Steppe-related components. Despite speaking an Iranic language, they are genetically closest to neighboring Caucasus groups, dominated by Y-haplogroup G2. They show strong continuity with ancient Alans, Scythians, and Sarmatians, acting as "living genetic fossils" of the ancient steppe world.”
 
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ossetians are iranic too
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but part of the ones who didn't get raped by muslims (hence why some look more white) or the mongols ( they fought for the mongols so weren't mass raped ), it used to be apart of Iran till russia expanded into the Caucasus. Culturally they are distinct from other Caucasus groups and are closer to iranians and us ( Circassians ).
Iranians barely have Arab dna, that's a common misconception

The Ossetians look "whiter" due to higher Caucasian ancestry.
 
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I hate it when non-whites do that. Normally they’re quick to shit on South Asians in general. Who knows though, he might have actual MENA ancestry because some Islamic Indians do have such ancestry.
I think it's just people find it impossible to look past a certain stereotype of how people look

yes his pheno/skin tone etc. is very rare, but it isn't an impossible thing to find
 
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yeah but they're genetically closer to Caucasians
They aren't, their maternal line is the same as iranians and their paternal line is shared by northern iranians
 
If you’re white-passing, everyone’s dying to claim you. I saw a white-passing South Asian and in the comments people were glazing them hard. “I thought you were Persian!” “I thought you were Chechen like me!” “I thought you were Levantine like me!” Etc, etc. Ain’t nobody claiming if someone’s a shitskin like me. :ROFLMAO:
White passing like me ( jury is still hung on whether kavkazi and circassians are white ) always have to convince people we aren't russian or something. I tell people where I'm from and they assume I am some dumbass fucking American claiming their italian lineage from 15 mothers ago. I always get some turk trying to claim me too
 
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Iranians barely have Arab dna, that's a common misconception

The Ossetians look "whiter" due to higher Caucasian ancestry.
True, Iranians don’t have Arab DNA but there are Iranian Arabs, they’re bordering Iraq.

I think Saddam wanted to claim that region back in the Iran-Iraq war.
 
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I think it's just people find it impossible to look past a certain stereotype of how people look

yes his pheno/skin tone etc. is very rare, but it isn't an impossible thing to find
Yes, there’s a lot of ignorance on phenotypes in general.
 
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he considered them as what were the initial aryans, he considered them impure and degraded due to racial mixing

Look up the myth of the twentieth century
If what your saying is true ( I researched the topic heavily years ago so new evidence might have popped up ) then I agree with him more lol.

He is right a lot of Iranians did race mix again italy is a good example, the south looks arab the north looks white and IIRC the nazis considered made the same distinction too
 
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White passing like me ( jury is still hung on whether kavkazi and circassians are white ) always have to convince people we aren't russian or something. I tell people where I'm from and they assume I am some dumbass fucking American claiming their italian lineage from 15 mothers ago. I always get some turk trying to claim me too
What do you look like? When you said Kavkaz, I thought of Central Asians and I imagined a Turkic look (narrow eyes, for example). But you get mistaken for being Russian or something?
 
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They aren't, their maternal line is the same as iranians and their paternal line is shared by northern iranians
no mtDNA shows proof of there migration from Iran however they're still genetically closer to causcas groups

the report literally says so
 
he considered them as what were the initial aryans, he considered them impure and degraded due to racial mixing

Look up the myth of the twentieth century
Hitler considered them aryan, whilst I don't agree ( a lot of iranians look arab as hell ) thats what he thought

The difference between indians and Iranians is that at least iranians can provide some indigenous white examples even if the claimant isn't white. In india they have 0 examples
Iranians have always been brown
Nah this is incorrect, original Iranians were white and migrated to Europe that’s why they claim to be Aryan jfl because originally they were before mixing with Arabs and Indians.
They mixed with the Zagrosians, Elamites..

The Arab invasion happened thousands of years later
 
I just googled and this is what it says:

“Ossetian genetics reveal a unique, complex ancestry mixing indigenous Caucasian, Indo-Iranian, and Steppe-related components. Despite speaking an Iranic language, they are genetically closest to neighboring Caucasus groups, dominated by Y-haplogroup G2. They show strong continuity with ancient Alans, Scythians, and Sarmatians, acting as "living genetic fossils" of the ancient steppe world.”
and I googled this
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  • Maternal Lineage (mtDNA): Studies indicate that Ossetian maternal lines are closer to Iranian groups, suggesting an initial influx of Iranian-speaking women from the steppe."

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    Ossetians are in fact a genetic fossil because they are the closest thing to original Iranians left in a concentrated group.
 
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and I googled this
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  • Maternal Lineage (mtDNA): Studies indicate that Ossetian maternal lines are closer to Iranian groups, suggesting an initial influx of Iranian-speaking women from the steppe."

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    Ossetians are in fact a genetic fossil because they are the closest thing to original Iranians left in a concentrated group.
Yeah I've seen some Ossetians saying "you're shitskin mudslimes we are the real Persian Aryans come save us from Daddy Putin so we can claim our throne back" or something along the lines of that
 
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Iranians barely have Arab dna, that's a common misconception

The Ossetians look "whiter" due to higher Caucasian ancestry.
"iranians barely have arab dna" jfl take any shit skin iranian from the south and they have plenty of arab dna, hell they probably even speak arabic-iranian dialect

Ossetians if anything look browner because of caucasian ancestry, I would know I grew up in the Caucasus in the same region as them
 
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Yeah I've seen some Ossetians saying "you're shitskin mudslimes we are the real Persian Aryans come save us from Daddy Putin so we can claim our throne back" or something along the lines of that
They are retarded lol, the only thing which stopped us from becoming brown like them was russia and putin
 
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and I googled this
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  • Maternal Lineage (mtDNA): Studies indicate that Ossetian maternal lines are closer to Iranian groups, suggesting an initial influx of Iranian-speaking women from the steppe."

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    Ossetians are in fact a genetic fossil because they are the closest thing to original Iranians left in a concentrated group.
this actually isn't true the ossetians are not closer to the original iranian or aryan groups due to interviewing with causcas groups

I searched it up n it's the pamiri people
 
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What do you look like? When you said Kavkaz, I thought of Central Asians and I imagined a Turkic look (narrow eyes, for example). But you get mistaken for being Russian or something?
my pfp is my great grandfather for reference (shitty old photo but he had like russian coffee colored hair we call it rusiy and blue eyes). I don't really look "turkic" except for I guess highset wide cheekbones? but thats a very generic trait. Circassians were never really mixed with turkic tribes especially the ones who remained in the Caucasus
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Heres a picture of my aunt, ignore my black eyed cousin she wasn't fortunate enough to have a white father
 
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no mtDNA shows proof of there migration from Iran however they're still genetically closer to causcas groups

the report literally says so
send through
 
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"iranians barely have arab dna" jfl take any shit skin iranian from the south and they have plenty of arab dna, hell they probably even speak arabic-iranian dialect
That's the Arab minority tho? The average Iranian has like less than 10% Arab dna, which is quite low for bordering the Arab world. The myth of the Arab invasion replacing the white Iranians is, well just a myth.

Also, my family is originally from northern Iran and is still brown. More than 95% of Iranians are brown. The shitskins created the Achaemnid empire btw. There are pale asf Iranians in the east, but all they do is milk their village cow tbh



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this actually isn't true the ossetians are not closer to the original iranian or aryan groups due to interviewing with causcas groups

I searched it up n it's the pamiri people
Yeah some tajiks also are very close, they look similar to ossetians now though
 
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my pfp is my great grandfather for reference (shitty old photo but he had like russian coffee colored hair we call it rusiy and blue eyes). I don't really look "turkic" except for I guess highset wide cheekbones? but thats a very generic trait. Circassians were never really mixed with turkic tribes especially the ones who remained in the Caucasus
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Heres a picture of my aunt, ignore my black eyed cousin she wasn't fortunate enough to have a white father
I have red haired relatives from Turkey, are they Circassian? I don't know anything about them tbh
 
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That's the Arab minority tho? The average Iranian has like less than 10% Arab dna, which is quite low for bordering the Arab world. The myth of the Arab invasion replacing the white Iranians is, well just a myth.

Also, my family is originally from northern Iran and is still brown. More than 95% of Iranians are brown. The shitskins created the Achaemnid empire btw. There are pale asf Iranians in the east, but all they do is milk their village cow tbh



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Damn your from mazandaran? my uncle ( not blood related ) is from there and it's the most brutal family tree I have ever seen, half of them are white passing with blue eyes the other half aren't. I would hate to have been from the side with shitskin genetics
 
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Damn your from mazandaran? my uncle ( not blood related ) is from there and it's the most brutal family tree I have ever seen, half of them are white passing with blue eyes the other half aren't. I would hate to have been from the side with shitskin genetics
I don't know much about my families' history. But yes I do have relatives from Gilan, Tehran but also Isfahan.

Some genetic tests of Iranians (some from Isfahan), not sure how accurate these are..

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I have red haired relatives from Turkey, are they Circassian? I don't know anything about them tbh
Hmm maybe, your king Ismail I famously had red hair and so did lenin who was of russo-turkic origin so your relatives could be of some turkic/iranic descent in Caucasus and Central Asia ( would track with your northern iranian descent )

That being said a ton of us migrated to turkiye after our war with russia and before through the black sea slave trade so they could very well be circassian. IIRC lots of actors and models in turkiye are of circassian descent which tracks with our stereotype of looking attractive
 
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Hmm maybe, your king Ismail I famously had red hair and so did lenin who was of russo-turkic origin so your relatives could be of some turkic/iranic descent in Caucasus and Central Asia ( would track with your northern iranian descent )

That being said a ton of us migrated to turkiye after our war with russia and before through the black sea slave trade so they could very well be circassian. IIRC lots of actors and models in turkiye are of circassian descent which tracks with our stereotype of looking attractive
These relatives are from the most northern central part of Turkey
 
I don't know much about my families' history. But yes I do have relatives from Gilan, Tehran but also Isfahan.

Some genetic tests of Iranians (some from Isfahan), not sure how accurate these are..

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Yeah I assume this person is of one of the caucasian groups that settled in isfahan after the safavids purged the turkic community within Iran, a lot of the safavids were caucasian on their maternal side because of it. My family spent a couple decades within Iran after leaving the USSR and so did a lot of other caucasians because of the caucasian minority group within Iran ( there were a lot of russian speaking people in Iranian azerbaijan apparently who at the time kept to other russian speaking peoples) as well as the experience they had with ossetians and tajiks. They didn't much like the shah there and the chauvinism Iranian people exhibited so they migrated back to the USSR but plus side is we can all speak farsi now lol
 
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These relatives are from the most northern central part of Turkey
Ahhh they could very well be circassian then! Easiest way to tell is where they originally came from before turkiye and the dates. Bone structure can help a lot too, Circassians are generally taller than other people in the region, have broad shoulders, barrel chests and skinny waists (28-34 in) skulls are generally on the taller side and noses generally are quite projected ( not necessarily in an ugly jew way but can be ) easiest indicators tbh are things like barrel chest and height
 
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am I being autistic here and misunderstanding what mtDNA means or something?
 
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Ahhh they could very well be circassian then! Easiest way to tell is where they originally came from before turkiye and the dates. Bone structure can help a lot too, Circassians are generally taller than other people in the region, have broad shoulders, barrel chests and skinny waists (28-34 in) skulls are generally on the taller side and noses generally are quite projected ( not necessarily in an ugly jew way but can be ) easiest indicators tbh are things like barrel chest and height
Some relatives exceeded 200cm, though my grandfather was like 5'9. I know there was some Balkan ancestry as well, they can get quite tall as well.
 
Some relatives exceeded 200cm, though my grandfather was like 5'9. I know there was some Balkan ancestry as well, they can get quite tall as well.
Wow 200cm is crazy! I myself am 191cm but I know my great grandfather and grandfather was at least 6ft which was crazy for the time period, even 5'9 was crazy for the time period and region probably like 6ft 1-2 in europe now.

It's possible they were circassian and balkan then the height is a clear indicator they aren't some turk too
 
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