People saying Dreams is above average are kidding themselves

[MakinItHappenReturn]

People saying he is above average are kidding themselves. Attractiveness is determined by harmony. Great features mean nothing when harmony is absent and if anything make the lack of harmony stick out more.

Like a quarter moon he has no middle face. Or it rather is extremely flat looking given the over projection of his chin.

This shows and proves how important facial averageness is.

If his chin was more normal in development and not so protruding there wouldn't be a problem but because his midface which is much more normal didn't develop like his chin did, he looks ridiculous in terms of harmony.

Independently great features don't mean anything if they are not in somewhat conjunction with the rest of the face.

 

[Erik-Jón]

I use to think he’s above average

But yesterday I saw this

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

I use to think he’s above average

But tester I saw this

He's not.

 

[Deleted member 14693]

I use to think he’s above average

But tester I saw this

wtf, he frauded hard in his video jfl.

What is this. Looks like a cartoon character

 

[Deleted member 22126]

wtf, he frauded hard in his video jfl.

What is this. Looks like a cartoon character

Hes a low tier normie jfl even i mog him

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

he's above average

 

[Deleted member 21182]

People saying he is above average are kidding themselves. Attractiveness is determined by harmony. Great features mean nothing when harmony is absent and if anything make the lack of harmony stick out more.

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Like a quarter moon he has no middle face. Or it rather is extremely flat looking given the over projection of his chin.

This shows and proves how important facial averageness is.

If his chin was more normal in development and not so protruding there wouldn't be a problem but because his midface which is much more normal didn't develop like his chin did, he looks ridiculous in terms of harmony.

Independently great features don't mean anything if they are not in somewhat conjunction with the rest of the face.

He's probably MTN just the most normal looking dude ever, he is apparently tall tho since he was wayy taller than the 5'9 dude in his vid

 

[Lawton88]

5/10 at the most. Probably just a tad lower for looking a little strange.

 

[OldRooster]

The SMV of skinny guys is highly height dependent. He looks tall. If he is in fact tall, 6'+, he is above average. If he is 5'9" or less he is just a skinny manlet and it is over.

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

nice hair
good hairline
flawless skin
perfect teeth
blue eyes
no major recession/malocclusion type deformities
decent nose

he doesn't even have any real failos but his face just looks a little too soft and round which is enough to cause mass disappointment in stank ass pussy holes

 

[Deleted member 14693]

nice hair
good hairline
flawless skin
perfect teeth
blue eyes
no major recession/malocclusion type deformities
decent nose

he doesn't even have any real failos but his face just looks a little too soft and round which is enough to cause mass disappointment in stank ass pussy holes

tbh only non NT people call him ugly.

TikTOk (most NT plattform) everyone supports him and says he doesn't look big

Only website where they hate him is Twitter (least NT social media)

 

[MRD]

he's above average

LOL. No - he's not. He's not even average. He's kind of a 40-45% if 50% is average. Seriously. If he bloatmaxxed he'd look like that cuck neckbeard meme in pencil drawing.

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

LOL. No - he's not. He's not even average. He's kind of a 40-45% if 50% is average. Seriously. If he bloatmaxxed he'd look like that cuck neckbeard meme in pencil drawing.

dude go outside and look at the average guy

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

nice hair
good hairline
flawless skin
perfect teeth
blue eyes
no major recession/malocclusion type deformities
decent nose

he doesn't even have any real failos but his face just looks a little too soft and round which is enough to cause mass disappointment in stank ass pussy holes

He doesn't have any failo? Are you kidding yourself? What about his chin? Crimson chin is the meme he is being given on twitter. You think that's what? False?

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

dude go outside and look at the average guy

Average for a girl is not average for a population of men.

 

[Deleted member 22126]

Hes a low tier normie jfl

nice hair
good hairline
flawless skin
perfect teeth
blue eyes
no major recession/malocclusion type deformities
decent nose

he doesn't even have any real failos but his face just looks a little too soft and round which is enough to cause mass disappointment in stank ass pussy holes

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

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candid vid in bad lighting where he's dressed like a clown at some convention

 

[MRD]

dude go outside and look at the average guy

What the fuck do you think I said the aforementioned for? I'm not being disingenuous or obfuscating what I've noticed on my time on earth. I'm a grown ass man not some 18 year old kid on here, dickhead. He's below average. Close to average but NOT anything more. Not sure which backward inbred city/town you live in but he's below average for my area.

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

Average for a girl is not average for a population of men.

that's the issue

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

What the fuck do you think I said the aforementioned for? I'm not being disingenuous or obfuscating what I've noticed on my time on earth. I'm a grown ass man not some 18 year old kid on here, dickhead. He's below average. Close to average but NOT anything more. Not sure which backward inbred city/town you live in but he's below average for my area.

maybe. i'd put him slightly above average where i live.

most men seem to have at least one bad failo like acne, teeth, recessed, shit hairline, balding, etc. and he doesn't really have any of that which is why i'd put him somewhat above average.

 

[MRD]

maybe. i'd put him slightly above average where i live.

Ok fair enough. I respect that. I don't see him as above or even avg tbh.

 

[Deleted member 19066]

I use to think he’s above average

But yesterday I saw this

No wonder he hid his face for so long, he wouldn't have gotten anywhere as a public figure looking like that.

 

[Deleted member 19066]

Ok fair enough. I respect that. I don't see him as above or even avg tbh.

maybe. i'd put him slightly above average where i live.

Keep in mind he's like 6'3 and most shoes would fraud him to 6'4.

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

that's the issue

No it's not the issue. It's the reality and it's always been the reality.

The internet has just surfaced it.

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

No wonder he hid his face for so long, he wouldn't have gotten anywhere as a public figure looking like that.

And that's another point.

If he was above-average looking, surely he would have still garnered a 30 million following despite his looks? You here say he wouldn't have and the truth is he wouldn't have.

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

No it's not the issue. It's the reality and it's always been the reality.

The internet has just surfaced it.

female opinions don't affect the objective average though

 

[MRD]

Keep in mind he's like 6'3 and most shoes would fraud him to 6'4.

tbh I didn't know his height. You have a point. At that height he's definitely more appealing but face wise: meh.

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

female opinions don't affect the objective average though

But they affect the objective reality and the way people coordination with you in life.

They affect how you are perceived.

If you are an average looking man it is very difficult for you to run any personality other than NPC in the digital world

He has a 30 million YouTube Channel. Clearly not an NPC.

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

tbh I didn't know his height. You have a point. At that height he's definitely more appealing but face wise: meh.

He's larping about his height.

 

[Deleted member 22126]

He is atmost a normie in face if you consider ethnics and htn in smv if you consider height

 

[Deleted member 19066]

And that's another point.

If he was above-average looking, surely he would have still garnered a 30 million following despite his looks? You here say he wouldn't have and the truth is he wouldn't have.

Dream's face reveal has foids in tears or coping all over the globe, real question is, was it bimax or leanmaxx?

Did he get bimax or was this just from leanmaxxing? Here is the before; Another blackpill for chincels and those with low set zygos.

looksmax.org

I made a thread and stated how he was well below average. I'm just saying that he is also 6'3 which brings him up massively in smv.

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

Dream's face reveal has foids in tears or coping all over the globe, real question is, was it bimax or leanmaxx?

Did he get bimax or was this just from leanmaxxing? Here is the before; Another blackpill for chincels and those with low set zygos.

looksmax.org

I made a thread and stated how he was well below average. I'm just saying that he is also 6'3 which brings him up massively in smv.

We have no proof on his height.

Hamza claimed 6'1 for an age and now it finally comes out with hardcore evidence that the idiot is 5'10

 

[Deleted member 22190]

People saying he is above average are kidding themselves. Attractiveness is determined by harmony. Great features mean nothing when harmony is absent and if anything make the lack of harmony stick out more.

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Like a quarter moon he has no middle face. Or it rather is extremely flat looking given the over projection of his chin.

This shows and proves how important facial averageness is.

If his chin was more normal in development and not so protruding there wouldn't be a problem but because his midface which is much more normal didn't develop like his chin did, he looks ridiculous in terms of harmony.

Independently great features don't mean anything if they are not in somewhat conjunction with the rest of the face.

He has quite a few great features, but there's just something... Off. I can't put my finger on it, but you can tell it's there and fucks up his whole face. LTN.

 

[Deleted member 19066]

We have no proof on his height.

Hamza claimed 6'1 for an age and now it finally comes out with hardcore evidence that the idiot is 5'10

There is a video of him beside a 5'8 friend of his where he is significantly taller. At least 6'2 if not the claimed 6'3.

 

[Deleted member 21863]

he's as mid as can get

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

he's as mid as can get

And a weird/odd looking mid at that

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

Who agrees with this?

 

[PIayer]

Mogs you to suicide, op

 

[St.TikTokcel]

Sub 5.5 = subhuman

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

Mogs you to suicide, op

I find it honestly pathetic and sad how many alts you can make in the month of October.

 

[Deprived]

wtf, he frauded hard in his video jfl.

What is this. Looks like a cartoon character

His chin looks shorter (still was long) and his eyes looked better in the vid. I rated him HTN but he’s def MTN at best

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

The 'attractive' part was virtue signalling

 

[Deleted member 22126]

Also hasanabi made a tweet saying dream didnt meet him. He was probably avoiding hasan since he is 6’4 and if he stood next to hasan his height would have been exposed

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

Also hasanabi made a tweet saying dream didnt meet him. He was probably avoiding hasan since he is 6’4 and if he stood next to hasan his height would have been exposed

High level of awareness.

 

[SeiGun]

he hiding his subhumanness by hiding in 3/4 view for the entire of face reveal video

 

[Tusseleif]

His face looks gay af, not talking prettyboy female gaze but legit gay

 

[Deleted member 16515]

We have no proof on his height.

Hamza claimed 6'1 for an age and now it finally comes out with hardcore evidence that the idiot is 5'10

is he really 5'10

 

[MakinItHappenReturn]

His face looks gay af, not talking prettyboy female gaze but legit gay

Literally a billion femcels virtue signalling on qoves YouTube channel calling him gl

 

[Xangsane]

LOL. No - he's not. He's not even average. He's kind of a 40-45% if 50% is average. Seriously. If he bloatmaxxed he'd look like that cuck neckbeard meme in pencil drawing.

JBW pheno

 

[Deleted member 19576]

He does have some good features like chin but his pheno looks like zuckerberg. He has robot like eyes.