People severely underestimate what is possible natty with good genetics

[High Cortisol Chad]

I see this everywhere, "25 FFMI is an absolute limit for a natty" cope. There are plenty of examples of pre steroid era weightlifters surpassing 25 FFMI. There is no reason to believe that 29 FFMI is not possible for somebody with elite genetics for building muscle, and simultaneously there is no reason to believe that a guy with very bad muscle building genetics can ever surpass 21 FFMI. I mean, genetics is a huge factor. All of them below are 100% natty because steroids weren't even invented yet, year ~1918

Here some comparison with modern "fake nattys"

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Hermann Görner deadlifted natty 793 lbs conventional

 

[Deleted member 22627]

I see this everywhere, "25 FFMI is an absolute limit for a natty" cope. There are plenty of examples of pre steroid era weightlifters surpassing 25 FFMI. There is no reason to believe that 29 FFMI is not possible for somebody with elite genetics for building muscle, and simultaneously there is no reason to believe that a guy with very bad muscle building genetics can ever surpass 21 FFMI. I mean, genetics is a huge factor. All of them below are 100% natty because steroids weren't even invented yet, year ~1918
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Here some comparison with modern "fake nattys"

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Hermann Görner deadlifted natty 793 lbs conventional

Manlets + DYEL in clothes

 

[High Cortisol Chad]

Manlets + DYEL in clothes

That's why we measure FFMI. And also back then avarage height was probably like 5'7

 

[High Cortisol Chad]

Among Hermann Görner's many feats of strength were the following notable lifts:

Deadlift – 360 kg (790 lb) with overhand hook grip. 380 kg (840 lb) with mixed grip.

One-handed deadlift – 330 kg (730 lb) on 8 October 1920, Leipzig, Germany

Deadlift – 270 kg (600 lb) using just two fingers of each hand

 

[High Cortisol Chad]

Keep coping