People who tell young men to "focus on their career" are subhuman scum

[Deleted member 14203]

For the last 3 months I didn't really interact or touch anyone male or female. I had a CS internship in the summer but there wasn't a ton of social interaction and most of the job was from home because apparently the covid meme isn't over? I don't have any friends and my roommates don't talk to me and my family hates me and doesn't talk to me since I moved out. I legit was going INSANE over the summer. Worst summer of my life by far.


Now I am back to my old shit wage 18 year old job and there is a girl who talks to me and touches me and maybe I will ascend with her. Even though I'm aspie I'm still also friends with my male coworkers because we are forced to interact for work.


Legit I feel so much better. I was like talking to myself and I was super negative and depressed all summer long. Couldn't get any sleep. Now it's like a female touched me a few times and my mental health is completely restored.


This just makes me soo much more pissed at normies who say "oh can't get GF at 18?? Just focus on your career bro, you are young you have your whole life ahead of you." Just be a good little betabux for a 30 year old rostie bro. Like I was focusing on my career and making a whole lot of money but it was also the worst summer of my entire goddamn life. I was smoking weed heavily and I was super depressed. "Just stay socially isolated and develop schizophrenia and drug addictions bro."


I genuinely wonder if people who say that are like 30 YO Redpillers who don't want young guys to get with 18 year old prime women. Probably the advice is also given by a bunch of women who have been getting male validation and attention since they were 13, but want men to wait until they are 30 to get any. Fucking pisses me off.

 

[Entschuldigung]

You're retarded and needy
The people are right, interacting with dumb females for hook-ups is a fucking waste of time

 

[Deleted member 4106]

You're retarded and needy
The people are right, interacting with dumb females for hook-ups is a fucking waste of time

I thought so, and regret it bitterly

 

[Deleted member 14203]

You're retarded and needy
The people are right, interacting with dumb females for hook-ups is a fucking waste of time

I don't mean ignore career completely and focus on slaying or some shit. I realize my post may have sounded like that now that I'm reading it back. But I'm more saying that at least getting laid a little or getting an LTR when you are young is probably Just as important as career is. Literally some people don't get good jobs until they are 28 and they can still live good lives. Like, would you rather be poor until 28, or be a virgin until 28??? They both deserve a lot of time and effort.

 

[Deleted member 275]

Doing STEM ruined my life. ill never forgive the ppl that pushed me to do this shit

 

[Deleted member 14203]

Doing STEM ruined my life. ill never forgive the ppl that pushed me to do this shit

Just curious, why?? CS internship definitely money mogged fast food, was much more comfortable not so stressful. But the lack of social interaction is what I hated.


But I figure it is a good career job like it's a ticket to upper middle class at least. I'm just gonna chill out and maybe take less classes or something. I realize that there is no need to rush to get rich. I have 40+ years for that.


What field do you think would have been better??

 

[Deleted member 275]

Just curious, why?? CS internship definitely money mogged fast food, was much more comfortable not so stressful. But the lack of social interaction is what I hated.


But I figure it is a good career job like it's a ticket to upper middle class at least. I'm just gonna chill out and maybe take less classes or something. I realize that there is no need to rush to get rich. I have 40+ years for that.


What field do you think would have been better??

Finance business or do whatever field is fun. Art, history, who cares tbh.

Carreer is irrelevant jn the netherlands. Everyones income is the same here

 

[Deleted member 14203]

Finance business or do whatever field is fun. Art, history, who cares tbh.

Carreer is irrelevant jn the netherlands. Everyones income is the same here

Oh I forgot that countries outside the US exist. Some motherfuckers here in the US get jobs at big tech out of college at 22 making like 150k+ while most make 60k tops out of college.


Can't get an art degree in the US JFL. That's honestly fucked up if you don't get paid more than people with art degrees.

 

[DharkDC]

For the last 3 months I didn't really interact or touch anyone male or female. I had a CS internship in the summer but there wasn't a ton of social interaction and most of the job was from home because apparently the covid meme isn't over? I don't have any friends and my roommates don't talk to me and my family hates me and doesn't talk to me since I moved out. I legit was going INSANE over the summer. Worst summer of my life by far.


Now I am back to my old shit wage 18 year old job and there is a girl who talks to me and touches me and maybe I will ascend with her. Even though I'm aspie I'm still also friends with my male coworkers because we are forced to interact for work.


Legit I feel so much better. I was like talking to myself and I was super negative and depressed all summer long. Couldn't get any sleep. Now it's like a female touched me a few times and my mental health is completely restored.


This just makes me soo much more pissed at normies who say "oh can't get GF at 18?? Just focus on your career bro, you are young you have your whole life ahead of you." Just be a good little betabux for a 30 year old rostie bro. Like I was focusing on my career and making a whole lot of money but it was also the worst summer of my entire goddamn life. I was smoking weed heavily and I was super depressed. "Just stay socially isolated and develop schizophrenia and drug addictions bro."


I genuinely wonder if people who say that are like 30 YO Redpillers who don't want young guys to get with 18 year old prime women. Probably the advice is also given by a bunch of women who have been getting male validation and attention since they were 13, but want men to wait until they are 30 to get any. Fucking pisses me off.

nah, it’s legit advice. At the end of the day, slaying doesn’t amount to anything. It’s a hobby at the end of the day, and if u let that fuck with you working on yourself, looksmaxxing, moneymaxxing, or statusmaxxing, it’s over

 

[Warlow]

Finance business or do whatever field is fun. Art, history, who cares tbh.

Carreer is irrelevant jn the netherlands. Everyones income is the same here

i am a slave to pre-med, not really my choice anymore

 

[Deleted member 275]

Oh I forgot that countries outside the US exist. Some motherfuckers here in the US get jobs at big tech out of college at 22 making like 150k+ while most make 60k tops out of college.


Can't get an art degree in the US JFL. That's honestly fucked up if you don't get paid more than people with art degrees.

Physics masters graduate in my country make 42k euro per year at top international firm, pretax (and taxes are fucking high).

The diff between someone with shit tier art degree job is small and irrelevant for life quality

 

[Deleted member 275]

nah, it’s legit advice. At the end of the day, slaying doesn’t amount to anything. It’s a hobby at the end of the day, and if u let that fuck with you working on yourself, looksmaxxing, moneymaxxing, or statusmaxxing, it’s over

'live to work' is a shit way of life.

 

[Deleted member 9666]

Doing STEM ruined my life. ill never forgive the ppl that pushed me to do this shit

How?

you’ll be winning in 10 years

 

[Deleted member 14203]

nah, it’s legit advice. At the end of the day, slaying doesn’t amount to anything. It’s a hobby at the end of the day, and if u let that fuck with you working on yourself, looksmaxxing, moneymaxxing, or statusmaxxing, it’s over

Sure, maybe ignoring career to SLAY is ridiculous. But if you are going touchless and friendless for months on end I would say that is a pretty big problem that needs to be addressed. Unless you are truecel ascending while you are young should be a priority. Don't fail classes ofc, but I legit might consider taking less classes or something and graduating later.


Like you got 40+ years for career and getting rich.

 

[Deleted member 275]

How?

you’ll be winning in 10 years

Life ends at 35 buddy, u win young or go home

 

[DharkDC]

Sure, maybe ignoring career to SLAY is ridiculous. But if you are going touchless and friendless for months on end I would say that is a pretty big problem that needs to be addressed. Unless you are truecel ascending while you are young should be a priority. Don't fail classes ofc, but I legit might consider taking less classes or something and graduating later.


Like you got 40+ years for career and getting rich.

niggas like u don’t understand the real world. When boomfags telling u to work on career, they mean get rich quick, through a trade or something, not going to uni to be someone’s lapdog. Rn everyone got this “I’ll work later mentality“, and they’ll become the bums their parents were in they’re late 20s, meanwhile you can have the cream of the crop with only wealth and status. Basically what I’m saying, if your not a teenager, your dreams of slaying with just looks is pretty much over

 

[Deleted member 275]

niggas like u don’t understand the real world. When boomfags telling u to work on career, they mean get rich quick, through a trade or something, not going to uni to be someone’s lapdog. Rn everyone got this “I’ll work later mentality“, and they’ll become the bums their parents were in they’re late 20s, meanwhile you can have the cream of the crop with only wealth and status. Basically what I’m saying, if your not a teenager, your dreams of slaying with just looks is pretty much over

boomfags told me to go to uni to be someone's lapdog

 

[Deleted member 14203]

niggas like u don’t understand the real world. When boomfags telling u to work on career, they mean get rich quick, through a trade or something, not going to uni to be someone’s lapdog. Rn everyone got this “I’ll work later mentality“, and they’ll become the bums their parents were in they’re late 20s, meanwhile you can have the cream of the crop with only wealth and status. Basically what I’m saying, if your not a teenager, your dreams of slaying with just looks is pretty much over

Maybe what you are saying applies to some people. Like ya don't be a bum off your parents at any age. I agree there I moved out at 18 and I don't get help from them. Don't get an art degree.


But all I'm saying is I think it is harmful to not have any GF or get 0 sex whole you are young. If you put 100% of your effort into career and 0% into ascending while young, you will just end up being a betabux with low self esteem and regrets, and especially if you are blackpilled you will KNOW that you are just a betabux.


Also being a lonely Incel just sucks. Sucks even more than working a low wage job.

 

[DharkDC]

Maybe what you are saying applies to some people. Like ya don't be a bum off your parents at any age. I agree there I moved out at 18 and I don't get help from them. Don't get an art degree.


But all I'm saying is I think it is harmful to not have any GF or get 0 sex whole you are young. If you put 100% of your effort into career and 0% into ascending while young, you will just end up being a betabux with low self esteem and regrets, and especially if you are blackpilled you will KNOW that you are just a betabux.


Also being a lonely Incel just sucks. Sucks even more than working a low wage job.

Making friends is a must, but people need to come to terms with reality and accept that for 2 - 3 years, theyll never touch pussy. Best thing to do, is to build yourself within these years, so that shit will never happen again. From all areas, looksmaxxing, to lifting, to moneymaxxing. Being low-key has no benefits as an adult

 

[Deleted member 275]

The best things in life don't cost a lot of money. I have no idea why you are all so stressed out and focussed on carreer and getting rich. You think going to some 5star all inclusive resort with your girlfriend is so much better than going on a carefree camping trip? I doubt it personally, but maybe you have a diff personality ofc.

Exceptions would be:
1)Doing something you really enjoy. You go to your work/studies with a sense of joy and you get fullfillment there.
2)The job/carreer you really want to have later on, requires you to put in this effort now to get there.
3)You need to focus on your carreer to avoid poverty. This is usually not the case in most western countries where you can get by comfortably with a random shitty job.

 

[lutte]

Finance business or do whatever field is fun. Art, history, who cares tbh.

Carreer is irrelevant jn the netherlands. Everyones income is the same here

Physics masters graduate in my country make 42k euro per year at top international firm, pretax (and taxes are fucking high).

The diff between someone with shit tier art degree job is small and irrelevant for life quality

legit
I notice with immigrants (at least academic ones) they are crazy strebers, because they come from countries where money matters much more and either they or their parents have experienced poverty (at least relative to the west) whilst swedes are much more relaxed. I talked with a 1st gen turk and he told me he thought it was crazy that some guy he had met traveled the world when he was young and started studying at 25 instead of studycelling as soon as he could. Ofc he was a standard fat bloated turk with acne.

Anyway it's like you say, income barely matters in european countries with high taxes unlike you're bottom tier like a janitor or smth. If you're lucky you can get some good industry jobs without formal education where you earn more than the average academic does, maybe a nice education will give you a status boost but in the end idk if that matters much

Looks are like 90% of life quality here, a gl lazy bum who is unemployed or works a low tier job will live a good lower stress life with girlfriends whilst an ugly academic will live a high stress life and be incel or at best betabucks for some used up whore

 

[lutte]

and education in sweden is extremely focused on careers, humanities here are shit so you can barely study something interesting, fucking sucks

 

[Deleted member 275]

legit
I notice with immigrants (at least academic ones) they are crazy strebers, because they come from countries where money matters much more and either they or their parents have experienced poverty (at least relative to the west) whilst swedes are much more relaxed. I talked with a 1st gen turk and he told me he thought it was crazy that some guy he had met traveled the world when he was young and started studying at 25 instead of studycelling as soon as he could. Ofc he was a standard fat bloated turk with acne.

Anyway it's like you say, income barely matters in european countries with high taxes unlike you're bottom tier like a janitor or smth. If you're lucky you can get some good industry jobs without formal education where you earn more than the average academic does, maybe a nice education will give you a status boost but in the end idk if that matters much

Looks are like 90% of life quality here, a gl lazy bum who is unemployed or works a low tier job will live a good lower stress life with girlfriends whilst an ugly academic will live a high stress life and be incel or at best betabucks for some used up whore

This so much. Theres nothing wrong with crazy ambition if you enjoy it and feel rewarded and good, despite knowing you are sacrificing a lot of other areas of your life.


But going into something like STEM without passion, thinking the degree and the upper middleclass job u get with it is going to make your life great... Youre wrong.

Its like u say, looks is most of the life quality here, and the family you grow up in i guess.

If you arent passionate about something, just get some laidback chill degree that seems fun and get a middleclass laidback chill job afterwards. Tbh

 

[Deleted member 9666]

The best things in life don't cost a lot of money. I have no idea why you are all so stressed out and focussed on carreer and getting rich. You think going to some 5star all inclusive resort with your girlfriend is so much better than going on a carefree camping trip? I doubt it personally, but maybe you have a diff personality ofc.

Exceptions would be:
1)Doing something you really enjoy. You go to your work/studies with a sense of joy and you get fullfillment there.
2)The job/carreer you really want to have later on, requires you to put in this effort now to get there.
3)You need to focus on your carreer to avoid poverty. This is usually not the case in most western countries where you can get by comfortably with a random shitty job.

Its all about balance. I am about to turn 25 and I spent 19-24 partying and chasing girls while working random shit jobs that did nothing for me. Now I’m getting into the age where girls won’t give you the time of day if you are broke or still live with your parents. 4 years ago I felt like a king going to music festivals and hooking up and now I’m a fucking loser lmao.

My family is full of engineers, doctors, lawyers, etc. in their 30’s, 40’s and 50’s and I can tell their lives are much more fulfilling than my family members who make less money working shit jobs that give them no freedom. The point is, you need those care free experiences like going to music festivals and taking drugs and fucking random girls so you don’t look back years down the road and regret everything. But slaying isn’t everything, and ultimately if you’re a fucking loser at 40 or 50 working a shit job that you despise, you’re going to regret wasting so much time chasing meaningless sex with girls you didnt like just to prove something to yourself.

 

[Deleted member 275]

Its all about balance. I am about to turn 25 and I spent 19-24 partying and chasing girls while working random shit jobs that did nothing for me. Now I’m getting into the age where girls won’t give you the time of day if you are broke or still live with your parents. 4 years ago I felt like a king going to music festivals and hooking up and now I’m a fucking loser lmao.

My family is full of engineers, doctors, lawyers, etc. in their 30’s, 40’s and 50’s and I can tell their lives are much more fulfilling than my family members who make less money working shit jobs that give them no freedom. The point is, you need those care free experiences like going to music festivals and taking drugs and fucking random girls so you don’t look back years down the road and regret everything. But slaying isn’t everything, and ultimately if you’re a fucking loser at 40 or 50 working a shit job that you despise, you’re going to regret wasting so much time chasing meaningless sex with girls you didnt like just to prove something to yourself.

Of course extremes are also bad. But i know a shitton of guys that like you said, they had a shit time in college/uni, now they have well paying jobs, but they are unhappy and look back in regret.

What do they do with their extra money? Buy a new honda civic instead of a used one. Buy a slightly bigger house. Spend more money on hobbies like buying a racing bike for 5000 dollar and a gaming computer for 2000. Money aint it, but a sucky shit job that leaves u living paycheck to paycheck aint it either.

 

[Enfant terrible]

We are humans we need some kind of affection and company or we get mentally ill.

 

[Deleted member 14138]

For the last 3 months I didn't really interact or touch anyone male or female. I had a CS internship in the summer but there wasn't a ton of social interaction and most of the job was from home because apparently the covid meme isn't over? I don't have any friends and my roommates don't talk to me and my family hates me and doesn't talk to me since I moved out. I legit was going INSANE over the summer. Worst summer of my life by far.


Now I am back to my old shit wage 18 year old job and there is a girl who talks to me and touches me and maybe I will ascend with her. Even though I'm aspie I'm still also friends with my male coworkers because we are forced to interact for work.


Legit I feel so much better. I was like talking to myself and I was super negative and depressed all summer long. Couldn't get any sleep. Now it's like a female touched me a few times and my mental health is completely restored.


This just makes me soo much more pissed at normies who say "oh can't get GF at 18?? Just focus on your career bro, you are young you have your whole life ahead of you." Just be a good little betabux for a 30 year old rostie bro. Like I was focusing on my career and making a whole lot of money but it was also the worst summer of my entire goddamn life. I was smoking weed heavily and I was super depressed. "Just stay socially isolated and develop schizophrenia and drug addictions bro."


I genuinely wonder if people who say that are like 30 YO Redpillers who don't want young guys to get with 18 year old prime women. Probably the advice is also given by a bunch of women who have been getting male validation and attention since they were 13, but want men to wait until they are 30 to get any. Fucking pisses me off.

A career is slavery. Its just an excuse for free and cheap labor provided to the elites and boomers. Its part of the "Just do what you love and the money will come." platitude that doesn't make any logical sense to someone who's not legally retarded.

 

[Reckless Turtle]

It's better to tell men to be extremely competitive and focus on building a business or getting into a position of status and power, but that few will succeed.

 

[stamaster21]

Of course extremes are also bad. But i know a shitton of guys that like you said, they had a shit time in college/uni, now they have well paying jobs, but they are unhappy and look back in regret.

What do they do with their extra money? Buy a new honda civic instead of a used one. Buy a slightly bigger house. Spend more money on hobbies like buying a racing bike for 5000 dollar and a gaming computer for 2000. Money aint it, but a sucky shit job that leaves u living paycheck to paycheck aint it either.

Its about balance.

 

[Deleted member 275]

We are humans we need some kind of affection and company or we get mentally ill.

Human touch can be so good. I lost my fwb last month cuz she wanted something more serious but I felt too fucked up at that point to spend more time with her. But just cuddling with her the whole night like once-twice per week was magical. Ideal arrangement ngl.

Didn't even enjoy sex with her all that much, just the cuddling was great and both of us were very relaxed sleepers that dont move around a lot.

 

[randomvanish]

Life ends at 35 buddy, u win young or go home

by quitting everything you worked on, did you win ?

 

[Deleted member 275]

by quitting everything you worked on, did you win ?

Depends on what you value in life. There is no greater purpose. Life's purpose is what you make of it.

If your purpose is looks and slaying, your life ends at 35-40. So better find a diff purpose once u reach that age or rope.

 

[studiocel]

People only say this to ugly people to make them feel better.

 

[Deleted member 14203]

but people need to come to terms with reality and accept that for 2 - 3 years, theyll never touch pussy.

I agree with the rest of your comment, but I really don't think this is true dude. Unless you are starting out as an obese 5'6" indian or something. Depends on the base I guess. I have been lifting for about 4 months, and I already noticed a difference in treatment, especially from women. I know it's cope unless you are actually getting laid, but I'm probably gonna get laid soon tbh.

 

[Deleted member 6186]

Sorry but wagecucking is the fate of most of you.

 

[Deleted member 7076]

u know u can work AND have fun right...

if u cant balance the two then its nobodies fault but yours

 

[Carolus]

and education in sweden is extremely focused on careers, humanities here are shit so you can barely study something interesting, fucking sucks

Pluggar du?

 

[.👽.]

For the last 3 months I didn't really interact or touch anyone male or female. I had a CS internship in the summer but there wasn't a ton of social interaction and most of the job was from home because apparently the covid meme isn't over? I don't have any friends and my roommates don't talk to me and my family hates me and doesn't talk to me since I moved out. I legit was going INSANE over the summer. Worst summer of my life by far.


Now I am back to my old shit wage 18 year old job and there is a girl who talks to me and touches me and maybe I will ascend with her. Even though I'm aspie I'm still also friends with my male coworkers because we are forced to interact for work.


Legit I feel so much better. I was like talking to myself and I was super negative and depressed all summer long. Couldn't get any sleep. Now it's like a female touched me a few times and my mental health is completely restored.


This just makes me soo much more pissed at normies who say "oh can't get GF at 18?? Just focus on your career bro, you are young you have your whole life ahead of you." Just be a good little betabux for a 30 year old rostie bro. Like I was focusing on my career and making a whole lot of money but it was also the worst summer of my entire goddamn life. I was smoking weed heavily and I was super depressed. "Just stay socially isolated and develop schizophrenia and drug addictions bro."


I genuinely wonder if people who say that are like 30 YO Redpillers who don't want young guys to get with 18 year old prime women. Probably the advice is also given by a bunch of women who have been getting male validation and attention since they were 13, but want men to wait until they are 30 to get any. Fucking pisses me off.

agree. thats what people said to me too when i was younger and i really believed it. yes bro, gaming 24/7 in your room will get you girls bro, just wait

people just go out to meet people by default so it's just a matter of time, but this doesn't apply to all men.

 

[lutte]

Pluggar du?

nej

 

[Carolus]

nej

Vad gör du då? ldar?

 

[oldcelloser]

If your purpose is looks and slaying, your life ends at 35-40

definitely not true

 

[Xangsane]

For the last 3 months I didn't really interact or touch anyone male or female. I had a CS internship in the summer but there wasn't a ton of social interaction and most of the job was from home because apparently the covid meme isn't over? I don't have any friends and my roommates don't talk to me and my family hates me and doesn't talk to me since I moved out. I legit was going INSANE over the summer. Worst summer of my life by far.


Now I am back to my old shit wage 18 year old job and there is a girl who talks to me and touches me and maybe I will ascend with her. Even though I'm aspie I'm still also friends with my male coworkers because we are forced to interact for work.


Legit I feel so much better. I was like talking to myself and I was super negative and depressed all summer long. Couldn't get any sleep. Now it's like a female touched me a few times and my mental health is completely restored.


This just makes me soo much more pissed at normies who say "oh can't get GF at 18?? Just focus on your career bro, you are young you have your whole life ahead of you." Just be a good little betabux for a 30 year old rostie bro. Like I was focusing on my career and making a whole lot of money but it was also the worst summer of my entire goddamn life. I was smoking weed heavily and I was super depressed. "Just stay socially isolated and develop schizophrenia and drug addictions bro."


I genuinely wonder if people who say that are like 30 YO Redpillers who don't want young guys to get with 18 year old prime women. Probably the advice is also given by a bunch of women who have been getting male validation and attention since they were 13, but want men to wait until they are 30 to get any. Fucking pisses me off.

exactly why my chadlite prettyboy friend can't date rn despite being interested in this cute mena girl
family advised him against dating so she had to friendzone him

 

[Deleted member 15129]

They don't even realize they are gaslighting tho. They see it as actual advice because they see that their life turned out unhappy by doing that shit early. The brutal reality is that no matter what you do you will likely be unhappy when you age due to lack of purpose.

 

[stamaster21]

u know u can work AND have fun right...

if u cant balance the two then its nobodies fault but yours

ye people are coping, to the 10 degree, its up to you to balance your life. Folks just want to pawn off the reponsibility or blame for not managing their life on to others. Its o my parents were bad people, my parents told me to study all the time, when we know the real reason your studying all the time is because no one is inviting out to parties or outings. Same way people say video/pc gaming ruined my life, when we know most folks who play 8+ hours a day use games as a escape, because their lacking sex or social life.

You dont need to be super man

 

[stamaster21]

They don't even realize they are gaslighting tho. They see it as actual advice because they see that their life turned out unhappy by doing that shit early. The brutal reality is that no matter what you do you will likely be unhappy when you age due to lack of purpose.

yup guy parties hard from age 13 to 30 going to parties, not learning skills or taking school somewhat serious. Now hes a store manager at target, telling some 18 year old to , study hard, and take school seriously, and their will always be women and people to hang out with when he gets older, and has a good job.

 

[oldcelloser]

Now I’m getting into the age where girls won’t give you the time of day if you are broke or still live with your parents

nah youre just not good looking enough brah

 

[Deleted member 9666]

nah youre just not good looking enough brah

I don’t mean all girls but it’s noticeable now

 

[Beetlejuice]

Over

 

[Deleted member 11610]

This just makes me soo much more pissed at normies who say "oh can't get GF at 18?? Just focus on your career bro, you are young you have your whole life ahead of you." Just be a good little betabux for a 30 year old rostie bro.

Whenever I hear this shit it genuinely makes me violent, normies/incels in denial are coping so hard when they say your teen years are irrelevant

 

[Deleted member 275]

Whenever I hear this shit it genuinely makes me violent, normies/incels in denial are coping so hard when they say your teen years are irrelevant

When I was struggling socially in high school, my parents legit just told me
'it's all hormones, it's normal to be depressed in your puberty. Just focus on school, get good grades, and you will have a great life'