People who think Height is Greater than Face are fucking stupid

[Dragon5000]

Your Face IS your attractiveness. then your height gives and takes a couple points

it goes something like this: under 5'4" = almost always over, 5'5" to 5'6" -2 SMV, 5'7" -1.5 SMV, 5'8" -1 SMV, 5'9 to 5'10" -.5 SMV, 5'11 0 SMV, 6' to 6'1" +.5 SMV, 6'2" +.75 SMV, 6'3" +1 SMV, 6'4" to 6'5" +1.25 SMV, 6'6" to 6'9" +1.5 SMV, over 6'9" +1.75 SMV
(Don't pay attention to the exact numbers on here. You get the point)

Some say over 6'5 is niche which might be true for LTR's, but for SMV saying it is niche is Giga cope if not Terra cope. The only reason it is known as niche is because people that tall are significantly worse looking on average in the face and have significantly worse frames on average, so their height has to carry and usually can't unless it fits someone's niche.

one's frame can give or take a couple points as well.

We've all seen manlets who still slay, because they are chad in the face and frame, Obviously they aren't true chads as you can see with the -2 SMV, but are still HTN to Chadlite. no-one here knows Ugly people who slay unless they are an A list celebrity.

your face is your attractiveness you stupid idiots.

 

[Stopping@Nothing19]

 

[Dragon5000]

Yes Chico Mogs to oblivian, because of face

 

[LooksOrDeath]

it goes something like this: under 5'4" = almost always over, 5'5" to 5'6" -2 SMV, 5'7" -1.5 SMV, 5'8" -1 SMV, 5'9 to 5'10" -.5 SMV, 5'11 0 SMV, 6' to 6'1" +.5 SMV, 6'2" +.75 SMV, 6'3" +1 SMV, 6'4" to 6'5" +1.25 SMV, 6'6" to 6'9" +1.5 SMV, over 6'9" +1.75 SMV

this isnt a good way to measure smv

 

[Dragon5000]

this isnt a good way to measure smv

then what would be. again the exact numbers weren't the point. the point is just how the taller the better assuming other factors remain the same.

 

[Deleted member 17763]

Height can’t increase your smv nearly as much as it can decrease it. Surprisingly good take otherwise, I think the point about 6’5 and over only being niche cause people start to get deformed at those heights is true actually

 

[LooksOrDeath]

then what would be

use comparisions

so like
4 PSL * 5'8 = 3 PSL * 6'4
or 5 PSL * 5'10 = 4.5 PSL * 6'2

 

[LooksOrDeath]

Height can’t increase your smv nearly as much as it can decrease it. Surprisingly good take otherwise, I think the point about 6’5 and over only being niche cause people start to get deformed at those heights is true actually

your height is very good if you are three inches above average, and it is ideal if you are 5 inches above the average.

so in the US. 5'10 avg 6'1 halo 6'3 ideal
holland 6'0 average 6'3 halo 6'5 ideal

 

[Deleted member 17763]

your height is very good if you are three inches above average, and it is ideal if you are 5 inches above the average.

so in the US. 5'10 avg 6'1 halo 6'3 ideal
holland 6'0 average 6'3 halo 6'5 ideal

Sounds about right

 

[LooksOrDeath]

Sounds about right

you can go inverse to find what height is bad

US 5'10 avg 5'7 failo 5'5 hard mode

 

[Deleted member 16380]

Your Face IS your attractiveness. then your height gives and takes a couple points

Sry bro. Height is A LOT more important than your face.

Have you ever thought, why to offset the height of 5'5-5'7, you have to have a Chad face? Let us call this type of male Specimen #1.

While a guy 6'3 with Birdcel face 4/10, Specimen #2, will be slaying women A LOT more than Specimen #1.

A Specimen #3, height 5'9-5'11 and average face 5-6/10 will NOT be able to achieve the same success as Specimen #2 in Scandinavia, where all women are fucking 5'10 tall.

It is true, that IF you are TALLER than a woman then it is ok, and only face matters. BUT there are 2 problems:

1) Limitation by height is almost ABSOLUTE. It means that if you have a 5/10 face, 70-80% of women will find you good-looking ENOUGH. But if you are shorter than 30% of women in your country, you will automatically be left with 70% of women, without even considering your face. Single exceptions not counted.

2) If you appear in a place, where every other male is taller than you, even if they are ugly as fuck, and you are O'Pry, FORGET about getting laid. Height-mog is the WORST mog there is. Simply because you will look inadequate in comparison to your peers. It will be seen as an insult for a woman to leave with you, when you are "shortest of all males". So learn to fuck women outside of parties, in complete secrecy, if you are short.

 

[Dragon5000]

Sry bro. Height is A LOT more important than your face.

Have you ever thought, why to offset the height of 5'5-5'7, you have to have a Chad face? Let us call this type of male Specimen #1.

While a guy 6'3 with Birdcel face 4/10, Specimen #2, will be slaying women A LOT more than Specimen #1.

A Specimen #3, height 5'9-5'11 and average face 5-6/10 will NOT be able to achieve the same success as Specimen #2 in Scandinavia, where all women are fucking 5'10 tall.

It is true, that IF you are TALLER than a woman then it is ok, and only face matters. BUT there are 2 problems:

1) Limitation by height is almost ABSOLUTE. It means that if you have a 5/10 face, 70-80% of women will find you good-looking ENOUGH. But if you are shorter than 30% of women in your country, you will automatically be left with 70% of women, without even considering your face. Single exceptions not counted.

2) If you appear in a place, where every other male is taller than you, even if they are ugly as fuck, and you are O'Pry, FORGET about getting laid. Height-mog is the WORST mog there is. Simply because you will look inadequate in comparison to your peers. It will be seen as an insult for a woman to leave with you, when you are "shortest of all males". So learn to fuck women outside of parties, in complete secrecy, if you are short.

ok

 

[Deleted member 16380]

ok

Just my 5 cents. Feel free to disagree

 

[Gandy]

Sry bro. Height is A LOT more important than your face.

Have you ever thought, why to offset the height of 5'5-5'7, you have to have a Chad face? Let us call this type of male Specimen #1.

While a guy 6'3 with Birdcel face 4/10, Specimen #2, will be slaying women A LOT more than Specimen #1.

A Specimen #3, height 5'9-5'11 and average face 5-6/10 will NOT be able to achieve the same success as Specimen #2 in Scandinavia, where all women are fucking 5'10 tall.

It is true, that IF you are TALLER than a woman then it is ok, and only face matters. BUT there are 2 problems:

1) Limitation by height is almost ABSOLUTE. It means that if you have a 5/10 face, 70-80% of women will find you good-looking ENOUGH. But if you are shorter than 30% of women in your country, you will automatically be left with 70% of women, without even considering your face. Single exceptions not counted.

2) If you appear in a place, where every other male is taller than you, even if they are ugly as fuck, and you are O'Pry, FORGET about getting laid. Height-mog is the WORST mog there is. Simply because you will look inadequate in comparison to your peers. It will be seen as an insult for a woman to leave with you, when you are "shortest of all males". So learn to fuck women outside of parties, in complete secrecy, if you are short.

I was and still am a proponent of face over height, but I'm hesitant to say which one truly matters more because of so many experiences with women who kept commenting on my height rather than face, or being obsessed with tallness over facial features.

I do think you need at least an average face, but height is a much bigger halo especially to cute/beautiful women than I thought previously. Tons of women are obsessed with height.

When it comes to dating apps, face for sure is king because bio texts aren't even read properly. Women do split second decisions based on whether their primitive parts of the brain find your face attractive in 0.2 seconds or not.

 

[Deleted member 14077]

use comparisions

so like
4 PSL * 5'8 = 3 PSL * 6'4
or 5 PSL * 5'10 = 4.5 PSL * 6'2

lol psl mathematician

 

[Deleted member 16380]

I was and still am a proponent of face over height, but I'm hesitant to say which one truly matters more because of so many experiences with women who kept commenting on my height rather than face, or being obsessed with tallness over facial features.

I have a friend, who is a legit Birdcel. I would judge him 4-5/10 at most.

But he is almost 2 meters tall. He is also kinda "rich", has his own luxury car and place.

But he had around 50-80 women 2 years ago...

I think 50% of his success is his height. Money ofc is also a very important factor. But he doesnot betabuxx/escortmaxx. So it means, his looks should play an important role. And out of his looks, the only redeeming quality he has is his height...

 

[Gandy]

I have a friend, who is a legit Birdcel. I would judge him 4-5/10 at most.

But he is almost 2 meters tall. He is also kinda "rich", has his own luxury car and place.

But he had around 50-80 women 2 years ago...

I think 50% of his success is his height. Money ofc is also a very important factor. But he doesnot betabuxx/escortmaxx. So it means, his looks should play an important role. And out of his looks, the only redeeming quality he has is his height...

Yeah, if you are 6'5 and have fancy place to live in, you will probably have as many chicks as you can deal with for the rest of your prime. Even with a recessed face. The halo is too big.

 

[germanlooks]

While a guy 6'3 with Birdcel face 4/10, Specimen #2, will be slaying women A LOT more than Specimen #1.

A guy like this won’t slay anything jfl

 

[LooksOrDeath]

lol psl mathematician

credit goes to @thecel

that lil chang common sense mogs the whole forum

 

[LooksOrDeath]

A guy like this won’t slay anything jfl

he'll get laid but with ethnic goblinas

 

[germanlooks]

Face matters more for dating and attraction

Height matters more for respect and dominance

 

[LooksOrDeath]

Face matters more for dating and attraction

Height matters more for respect and dominance

respect and dominance is attractive as well ofc

if you are taller than 6'1 and not gymmaxxing you are wasting your true potential tbh

 

[oldcell]

Sry bro. Height is A LOT more important than your face.

Have you ever thought, why to offset the height of 5'5-5'7, you have to have a Chad face? Let us call this type of male Specimen #1.

While a guy 6'3 with Birdcel face 4/10, Specimen #2, will be slaying women A LOT more than Specimen #1.

A Specimen #3, height 5'9-5'11 and average face 5-6/10 will NOT be able to achieve the same success as Specimen #2 in Scandinavia, where all women are fucking 5'10 tall.

It is true, that IF you are TALLER than a woman then it is ok, and only face matters. BUT there are 2 problems:

1) Limitation by height is almost ABSOLUTE. It means that if you have a 5/10 face, 70-80% of women will find you good-looking ENOUGH. But if you are shorter than 30% of women in your country, you will automatically be left with 70% of women, without even considering your face. Single exceptions not counted.

2) If you appear in a place, where every other male is taller than you, even if they are ugly as fuck, and you are O'Pry, FORGET about getting laid. Height-mog is the WORST mog there is. Simply because you will look inadequate in comparison to your peers. It will be seen as an insult for a woman to leave with you, when you are "shortest of all males". So learn to fuck women outside of parties, in complete secrecy, if you are short.

Sorry 5"11 6/10 would outslay 6"4 4/10 birdcell at every single universe and every single scenario , stop cope

 

[germanlooks]

respect and dominance is attractive as well ofc

Yes but the point is just that no girl will fall in love with your height.
You will always fall in love with someone because you like his or her face. Other factors like height, body etc just act like a booster

 

[Prince88]

Face matters more for dating and attraction

Height matters more for respect and dominance

Alot of your respect from other men comes from how good you are at getting girls.

 

[Ascendant]

Women are mirin face, not height, it is an undeniable fact.

If they see a manlet with Effron face, they will be mirin him. If they see a tall dude with average or below average face, they will have exactly 0 emotions towards that guy.

Handsome face= emotions. Tall but without handsome face= no emotions. A tall dude without handsome face might find a cougar height queen as a gf. But women in general wont be mirin that guy or have any positive emotions towards him. Female mirin + positive emotions and actions lead to validation that can be very satisfying. This is why women are addicted to attention and validation, cause it makes them feel better about themsevles, even if only for a short period. Attention and nice compliments from Chad make their day, even without smashing they feel much better from validation and attention by Chad/Chadlite.

 

[Deleted member 15827]

Another low iq thread from a low IQ user which incels plus react to help wallow themselves in misery

 

[germanlooks]

Alot of your respect from other men comes from how good you are at getting girls.

To an extend yes for sure.

But how much you respect another man is mostly about how physically big and intimidating he looks like.
You will for sure respect the left man more than the right one even if the right one gets more girls

 

[Deleted member 14077]

Sry bro. Height is A LOT more important than your face.

Have you ever thought, why to offset the height of 5'5-5'7, you have to have a Chad face? Let us call this type of male Specimen #1.

While a guy 6'3 with Birdcel face 4/10, Specimen #2, will be slaying women A LOT more than Specimen #1.

A Specimen #3, height 5'9-5'11 and average face 5-6/10 will NOT be able to achieve the same success as Specimen #2 in Scandinavia, where all women are fucking 5'10 tall.

It is true, that IF you are TALLER than a woman then it is ok, and only face matters. BUT there are 2 problems:

1) Limitation by height is almost ABSOLUTE. It means that if you have a 5/10 face, 70-80% of women will find you good-looking ENOUGH. But if you are shorter than 30% of women in your country, you will automatically be left with 70% of women, without even considering your face. Single exceptions not counted.

2) If you appear in a place, where every other male is taller than you, even if they are ugly as fuck, and you are O'Pry, FORGET about getting laid. Height-mog is the WORST mog there is. Simply because you will look inadequate in comparison to your peers. It will be seen as an insult for a woman to leave with you, when you are "shortest of all males". So learn to fuck women outside of parties, in complete secrecy, if you are short.

isnt black pill about cold hard facts. Seem like your spewing a bunch of numbers

 

[Deleted member 17535]

If I have an 8 face, can I make up for my 5’7 height? Asian btw

 

[Deusmaximus]

 

[thecel]

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[reputation]

Your Face IS your attractiveness. then your height gives and takes a couple points

it goes something like this: under 5'4" = almost always over, 5'5" to 5'6" -2 SMV, 5'7" -1.5 SMV, 5'8" -1 SMV, 5'9 to 5'10" -.5 SMV, 5'11 0 SMV, 6' to 6'1" +.5 SMV, 6'2" +.75 SMV, 6'3" +1 SMV, 6'4" to 6'5" +1.25 SMV, 6'6" to 6'9" +1.5 SMV, over 6'9" +1.75 SMV
(Don't pay attention to the exact numbers on here. You get the point)

Some say over 6'5 is niche which might be true for LTR's, but for SMV saying it is niche is Giga cope if not Terra cope. The only reason it is known as niche is because people that tall are significantly worse looking on average in the face and have significantly worse frames on average, so their height has to carry and usually can't unless it fits someone's niche.

one's frame can give or take a couple points as well.

We've all seen manlets who still slay, because they are chad in the face and frame, Obviously they aren't true chads as you can see with the -2 SMV, but are still HTN to Chadlite. no-one here knows Ugly people who slay unless they are an A list celebrity.

your face is your attractiveness you stupid idiots.

I'm 5'7 with 5'7 and taller Stacy fans, height is a cope

 

[reputation]

then what would be. again the exact numbers weren't the point. the point is just how the taller the better assuming other factors remain the same.

I don't think it's true but face is 100%

Body is extra halo

Height is a cope

 

[Dragon5000]

I don't think it's true but face is 100%

Body is extra halo

Height is a cope

what do you mean height is cope

5'2" gymaxxed 5psl = invisable. 6'4" gymaxxed 5psl = chad
by western standards

 

[Deleted member 18516]

Face and height matter as much as eachother

 

[Deleted member 18694]

Your Face IS your attractiveness. then your height gives and takes a couple points

it goes something like this: under 5'4" = almost always over, 5'5" to 5'6" -2 SMV, 5'7" -1.5 SMV, 5'8" -1 SMV, 5'9 to 5'10" -.5 SMV, 5'11 0 SMV, 6' to 6'1" +.5 SMV, 6'2" +.75 SMV, 6'3" +1 SMV, 6'4" to 6'5" +1.25 SMV, 6'6" to 6'9" +1.5 SMV, over 6'9" +1.75 SMV
(Don't pay attention to the exact numbers on here. You get the point)

Some say over 6'5 is niche which might be true for LTR's, but for SMV saying it is niche is Giga cope if not Terra cope. The only reason it is known as niche is because people that tall are significantly worse looking on average in the face and have significantly worse frames on average, so their height has to carry and usually can't unless it fits someone's niche.

one's frame can give or take a couple points as well.

We've all seen manlets who still slay, because they are chad in the face and frame, Obviously they aren't true chads as you can see with the -2 SMV, but are still HTN to Chadlite. no-one here knows Ugly people who slay unless they are an A list celebrity.

your face is your attractiveness you stupid idiots.

It's always been like this. I am 6ft5 and when my face looks bad there is NO interest. When I looksmaxx then there's interest. Height is a factor of course but it's not the first factor to consider.

 

[Deleted member 18602]

Your Face IS your attractiveness. then your height gives and takes a couple points

it goes something like this: under 5'4" = almost always over, 5'5" to 5'6" -2 SMV, 5'7" -1.5 SMV, 5'8" -1 SMV, 5'9 to 5'10" -.5 SMV, 5'11 0 SMV, 6' to 6'1" +.5 SMV, 6'2" +.75 SMV, 6'3" +1 SMV, 6'4" to 6'5" +1.25 SMV, 6'6" to 6'9" +1.5 SMV, over 6'9" +1.75 SMV
(Don't pay attention to the exact numbers on here. You get the point)

Some say over 6'5 is niche which might be true for LTR's, but for SMV saying it is niche is Giga cope if not Terra cope. The only reason it is known as niche is because people that tall are significantly worse looking on average in the face and have significantly worse frames on average, so their height has to carry and usually can't unless it fits someone's niche.

one's frame can give or take a couple points as well.

We've all seen manlets who still slay, because they are chad in the face and frame, Obviously they aren't true chads as you can see with the -2 SMV, but are still HTN to Chadlite. no-one here knows Ugly people who slay unless they are an A list celebrity.

your face is your attractiveness you stupid idiots.

@LooksOverAll

 

[LooksOrDeath]

Another low iq thread from a low IQ user which incels plus react to help wallow themselves in misery

He is the Advocate of the Devil

 

[TheAnomaly]

What facial PSL is needed to do well at 5’6”?

 

[Deleted member 15827]

What facial PSL is needed to do well at 5’6”?

 

[Korea]

What facial PSL is needed to do well at 5’6”?

7

 

[RicER]

I still can't decide if height is the greater factor. But all I can say is height is the first door you need to get through. After that then it's your face. Also being rejected for your face is being rejected for being an ugly monster, while being rejected for your height is being rejected for being less of a man, a non sexual half male

 

[volcelfatcel]

Tales from manlet land

 

[Piratecel]

Just LOL doesn't matter how good your face is if you are a manlet you will be auto disqualified even with a chad face. You act as if women can't find at least an average height guy with a chad face.

 

[exeight]

Height can’t increase your smv nearly as much as it can decrease it. Surprisingly good take otherwise, I think the point about 6’5 and over only being niche cause people start to get deformed at those heights is true actually

this.

girls recommend the tall height in men and if you pass a certain treshold, its kind a common sense to have a average/above average height.. you cant add this to your smv....
but the face let the women choose.. face change everything FACE > HEIGHT

 

[eduardkoopman]

deformed face (=over) > manlet (=over) > face > height

 

[Deleted member 18805]

Both height and face matter but in a different way. All girls set a cutoff height under which they don't date. It can be 5 cm taller than theml, 180 cm or even 185 cm if they are really picky, but once you reach that cutoff, being taller yields diminishing returns and face is more important. So obviously it's still good to be tall but it mainly works by increasing the pool of foids you can date

 

[Deleted member 14781]

Height vs face is the "boobs vs ass" of women, some women prioritize one and some others.

 

[Dragon5000]

Height vs face is the "boobs vs ass" of women, some women prioritize one and some others.

People who think boobs are greater than ass are fucking stupid