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There was no var back than that's why iqlet
So it's okay when they rob 3 ucls due to var? So why mention the lucky decisions Barcelona had if it was because there was no Var? And you still haven't mentioned the lucky decisions Argentina had in the 2022 wc after you said you were going to mention it
Translation: I'm a low IQ retard with no argument
 
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So it's okay when they rob 3 ucls due to var? So why mention the lucky decisions Barcelona had if it was because there was no Var? And you still haven't mentioned the lucky decisions Argentina had in the 2022 wc after you said you were going to mention it

Translation: I'm a low IQ retard with no argument
They had var in 2022
 
You sad, abused Penaldogs rooted for a team that washed you and your daddy Mbappe.

We Culers supported Spain and Messi throughout.
 
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You sad, abused Penaldogs rooted for a team that washed you and your daddy Mbappe.

We Culers supported Spain and Messi throughout.
 
They had var in 2022
You're genuinely retarded, you haven't brought up one claim as to why Barca or Messi had any lucky decisions go their way whilst saying it's muh rigged
 
You're genuinely retarded, you haven't brought up one claim as to why Barca or Messi had any lucky decisions go their way whilst saying it's muh rigged
that game vs Netherlands was a shocker

And the penalty in the final and vs Poland is some off top of my head
 
You're genuinely retarded, you haven't brought up one claim as to why Barca or Messi had any lucky decisions go their way whilst saying it's muh rigged
In 2022 they had but nigger l never said he robbed when he played with Barcelona only questionable one was aginst Chelsea in 2009
 
So it's okay when they rob 3 ucls due to var? So why mention the lucky decisions Barcelona had if it was because there was no Var? And you still haven't mentioned the lucky decisions Argentina had in the 2022 wc after you said you were going to mention it

Translation: I'm a low IQ retard with no argument
Translation: I'm Afghani and I like to fuck my cousin and goats + I won the argument
 
In 2022 they had but nigger l never said he robbed when he played with Barcelona only questionable one was aginst Chelsea in 2009
No there is way more than that
 
that game vs Netherlands was a shocker

And the penalty in the final and vs Poland is some off top of my head
Paredes and Van dijk's should have both gotten sent off. Van Dijk body checking him would have gotten him sent off under any other circumstance had there not been a lot of players all in one space. Dembele himself didn't even argue against the penalty, there was clear contact and you're an idiot if you somehow think the penalty against Poland shouldn't have counted and Messi missed it either
In 2022 they had but nigger l never said he robbed when he played with Barcelona only questionable one was aginst Chelsea in 2009
Name the decisions then. And I agree they did get lucky against Chelsea 2009
 
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You're genuinely retarded, you haven't brought up one claim as to why Barca or Messi had any lucky decisions go their way whilst saying it's muh rigged
Games rigged/bad calls for Barcelona:

2006 vs Arsenal ucl final (offside goal)

2009 vs Chelsea (obvious)

2011 vs Copenhagen (Valdez death challenge doesn’t get sent off)

2011 vs Arsenal (v persie card)

2011 vs Madrid ucl Pepe wrongly sent off, incorrect disallowed goal for Madrid

2011 vs Madrid Messi no card after blasting ball into supporters
2012 no penalty for Madrid after Valdez trips Ronaldo in the box with his hand

2012 no card or foul after defender purposefully cleats Ronaldo in the chest

2014 vs Madrid no penalty for Madrid after Ronaldo is absolutely battered in the box

And those are just some of the calls I remember from early in his career
 
Paredes and Van dijk's should have both gotten sent off. Van Dijk body checking him would have gotten him sent off under any other circumstance had there not been a lot of players all in one space. Dembele himself didn't even argue against the penalty, there was clear contact and you're an idiot if you somehow think the penalty against Poland shouldn't have counted and Messi missed it either

Name the decisions then. And I agree they did get lucky against Chelsea 2009
Clear hand ball at last min and 2 ungiven penalties
 
Games rigged/bad calls for Barcelona:

2006 vs Arsenal ucl final (offside goal)

2009 vs Chelsea (obvious)

2011 vs Copenhagen (Valdez death challenge doesn’t get sent off)

2011 vs Arsenal (v persie card)

2011 vs Madrid ucl Pepe wrongly sent off, incorrect disallowed goal for Madrid

2011 vs Madrid Messi no card after blasting ball into supporters
2012 no penalty for Madrid after Valdez trips Ronaldo in the box with his hand


2014 vs Madrid no penalty for Madrid after Ronaldo is absolutely battered in the box

And those are just some of the calls I remember from early in his career
There were still 15 minutes left for an equalized vs arsenal who are notorious for being bottlers.

The Chelsea game atleast had both teams have decisions go against them unlike every other Madrid game.

If you're going to bring up the game against coppenhagen then you agree that Neuer should have gotten sent off vs Argentina in the 2014 wc final then, no? And Argentina were most likely going to win against Coppenhagen either way

Barcelona still had 30 minutes left to play against Arsenal and an entire leg left vs Madrid. I already agreed with you that Barcelona most likely didn't deserve to go through that game.

2012 wasn't a ucl game and Madrid won the league by 9 points. Bad referring decisions benefit Barcelona from time to time meanwhile it consistently benifited Madrid during their 3 peat

What game are you talking about in 2014?

The lucky decisions that went Barcelona's way were subtle and hard to make out unlike Ramos injuring Salah in a ucl final and handballing it in extra time while on a yellow card inside the penalty box vs Atheltico

So we both agree that Messi should have had 2 champion leagues and Ronaldo should have had 1-2, arguably winning the 2011 ucl final with Madrid? What's the argument for Ronaldo>Messi then?
Clear hand ball at last min and 2 ungiven penalties
What game are you talking about?
 
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There were still 15 minutes left for an equalized vs arsenal who are notorious for being bottlers.

The Chelsea game atleast had both teams have decisions go against them unlike every other Madrid game.

If you're going to bring up the game against coppenhagen then you agree that Neuer should have gotten sent off vs Argentina in the 2014 wc final then, no? And Argentina were most likely going to win against Coppenhagen either way

Barcelona still had 30 minutes left to play against Arsenal and an entire leg left vs Madrid. I already agreed with you that Barcelona most likely didn't deserve to go through that game.

2012 wasn't a ucl game and Madrid won the league by 9 points. Bad referring decisions benefit Barcelona from time to time meanwhile it consistently benifited Madrid during their 3 peat

What game are you talking about in 2014?

The lucky decisions that went Barcelona's way were subtle and hard to make out unlike Ramos injuring Salah in a ucl final and handballing it in extra time while on a yellow card inside the penalty box vs Atheltico

So we both agree that Messi should have had 2 champion leagues and Ronaldo should have had 1-2, arguably winning the 2011 ucl final with Madrid? What's the argument for Ronaldo>Messi then?

What game are you talking about?
Chelsea vs Barcelona semi final the famous Drogba rage u dont know?
 
There were still 15 minutes left for an equalized vs arsenal who are notorious for being bottlers.

The Chelsea game atleast had both teams have decisions go against them unlike every other Madrid game.

If you're going to bring up the game against coppenhagen then you agree that Neuer should have gotten sent off vs Argentina in the 2014 wc final then, no? And Argentina were most likely going to win against Coppenhagen either way

Barcelona still had 30 minutes left to play against Arsenal and an entire leg left vs Madrid. I already agreed with you that Barcelona most likely didn't deserve to go through that game.

2012 wasn't a ucl game and Madrid won the league by 9 points. Bad referring decisions benefit Barcelona from time to time meanwhile it consistently benifited Madrid during their 3 peat

What game are you talking about in 2014?

The lucky decisions that went Barcelona's way were subtle and hard to make out unlike Ramos injuring Salah in a ucl final and handballing it in extra time while on a yellow card inside the penalty box vs Atheltico

So we both agree that Messi should have had 2 champion leagues and Ronaldo should have had 1-2, arguably winning the 2011 ucl final with Madrid? What's the argument for Ronaldo>Messi then?

What game are you talking about?
I’m not just talking about champions league only, also laliga and other things

There are long ass compilations for Barcelona bad calls and rigging shit, and I guess there is also the same for Madrid, I’d definetly say Barca is more corrupt for sure. But there is really no point of debating this for these reasons
 
Chelsea vs Barcelona semi final the famous Drogba rage u dont know?
I thought you were talking about the wc, yes I agree but atleast their were bad decisions going both ways not that Barcelona deserved to go throught hat year unlike Madrid's run in 2016-2018 where it was entirely one sided
I’m not just talking about champions league only, also laliga and other things

There are long ass compilations for Barcelona bad calls and rigging shit, and I guess there is also the same for Madrid, I’d definetly say Barca is more corrupt for sure. But there is really no point of debating this for these reasons
Both of them are famous for having lucky decisions go their way, my point is that without those 3 ucls that Ronaldo won what are his arguments over Messi?
 
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I thought you were talking about the wc, yes I agree but atleast their were bad decisions going both ways not that Barcelona deserved to go throught hat year unlike Madrid's run in 2016-2018 where it was entirely one sided

Both of them are famous for having lucky decisions go their way, my point is that without those 3 ucls that Ronaldo won what are his arguments over Messi?
Just his completeness, and don’t act like Argentina aren’t favored as of recent
 
Just his completeness, and don’t act like Argentina aren’t favored as of recent
That's not an argument and Messi is far more complete. He played as a right winger, centre forward, attacking midfielder and Argentina haven't had a favourable decisions besides Paredes not getting sent off alongside Van dijk in 2022. If they were truly favoured then Cucurella would have gotten sent off and Enzo would have stayed on the pitch

He's not a better dribbler, he's not a better passer, he's not a better playmaker, he's not a better finisher (worse conversion rate), he's not a better free kick taker, he has a worse goal ratio, a worse assist ratio, less chances created, less big chances created, a worse prime and worse longevity
 
That's not an argument and Messi is far more complete. He played as a right winger, centre forward, attacking midfielder and Argentina haven't had a favourable decisions besides Paredes not getting sent off alongside Van dijk in 2022. If they were truly favoured then Cucurella would have gotten sent off and Enzo would have stayed on the pitch

He's not a better dribbler, he's not a better passer, he's not a better playmaker, he's not a better finisher (worse conversion rate), he's not a better free kick taker, he has a worse goal ratio, a worse assist ratio, less chances created, less big chances created, a worse prime and worse longevity
Ronaldo played on the left and right, midfield winger striker and did it in harder conditions, Messi needs system built around him
 
Ronaldo played on the left and right, midfield winger striker and did it in harder conditions, Messi needs system built around him
He can play as a winger and a striker.

Check his heatmap when he played as a "midfielder" and come back to me when you do.

What system? If he's a better playmaker, dribbler and finisher why would he need a system built around him? You haven't argued any of my points as to why Ronaldo is better than Messi in besides a lazy argument saying he needed a system built around him?
 
He can play as a winger and a striker.

Check his heatmap when he played as a "midfielder" and come back to me when you do.

What system? If he's a better playmaker, dribbler and finisher why would he need a system built around him? You haven't argued any of my points as to why Ronaldo is better than Messi in besides a lazy argument saying he needed a system built around him?
Because bro im tryna eat my chicken nuggets


I have other arguments but no way ur gonna deny Messi don’t have system built around him
 
Because bro im tryna eat my chicken nuggets


I have other arguments but no way ur gonna deny Messi don’t have system built around him
Yeah you conveniantly don't want to argue anymore as soon as you got backed into a corner

What system? Check his heatmap, he all over the pitch in every year. When he had a suitable system designed for him and only him he scored 91 goals in a calender year. And he has 3 other years in where he outscored Ronaldo's highest goal scoring record in a calender year.

When you check Ronaldo's heatmap, you'll see he is tracking the left hand side of the map and the penalty box which is his role. When you check Messi's heatmap, you'll see that he's all over the pitch. He even has more outside the box goals
 
Yeah you conveniantly don't want to argue anymore as soon as you got backed into a corner

What system? Check his heatmap, he all over the pitch in every year. When he had a suitable system designed for him and only him he scored 91 goals in a calender year. And he has 3 other years in where he outscored Ronaldo's highest goal scoring record in a calender year.

When you check Ronaldo's heatmap, you'll see he is tracking the left hand side of the map and the penalty box which is his role. When you check Messi's heatmap, you'll see that he's all over the pitch. He even has more outside the box goals
Nigga I was literally eating my food

Messi literally walks around the pitch all day

Ronaldo, he tracks back does all the dirty work there’s videos of him tackling Messi in the penalty area

Messi does fuck all in the game

Jose mourinho said it himself in 2012

Ronaldo does all the hard work in the game
 
Nigga I was literally eating my food

Messi literally walks around the pitch all day

Ronaldo, he tracks back does all the dirty work there’s videos of him tackling Messi in the penalty area

Messi does fuck all in the game

Jose mourinho said it himself in 2012

Ronaldo does all the hard work in the game
Messi who has more chances created, more major chances created, more assists, more goals outside the box, more freekicks scored, more successful dribbles, won more man of the matches, has 3 years in which he outscored Ronaldo's highest goal scoring year does fuck all in the game?

How is Messi who's both a playmaker and goalscorer a system player whilst Ronaldo who's just a goal scorer not?
 
Messi who has more chances created, more major chances created, more assists, more goals outside the box, more freekicks scored, more successful dribbles, won more man of the matches, has 3 years in which he outscored Ronaldo's highest goal scoring year does fuck all in the game?

How is Messi who's both a playmaker and goalscorer a system player whilst Ronaldo who's just a goal scorer not?
Ronaldo was also a playmaker and has better assist and crossing catalogue than Messi, left foot right foot all angles across the pitch trivela rabona
 
Ronaldo was also a playmaker and has better assist and crossing catalogue than Messi, left foot right foot all angles across the pitch trivela rabona
Better playmaker has less chances created, less major chances created and less assists. Having a better weakfoot doesn't make you a better playmaker nor a complete player.

Without penalties Messi has more goals and assists in less games played and is better in every metrick. Surely that's not just due to him being a system player?
 
Better playmaker has less chances created, less major chances created and less assists. Having a better weakfoot doesn't make you a better playmaker nor a complete player.

Without penalties Messi has more goals and assists in less games played and is better in every metrick. Surely that's not just due to him being a system player?
I’ve seen crosses and shit that wasn’t counted in databases as silly as that sounds

And there is like 40 min compilations of Ronaldo’s crosses and chances created that his teammates can’t finish
 
I’ve seen crosses and shit that wasn’t counted in databases as silly as that sounds

And there is like 40 min compilations of Ronaldo’s crosses and chances created that his teammates can’t finish
You think the same doesn't apply to Messi? Ronaldo isn't the only player who's teammates miss chances that he creates and he has less chances created.

Once again, without penalties Messi has more goals and assists in less games played and is better in every metrick. Surely that's not just due to him being a system player? What's the excuse this time?
 
You think the same doesn't apply to Messi? Ronaldo isn't the only player who's teammates miss chances that he creates and he has less chances created.

Once again, without penalties Messi has more goals and assists in less games played and is better in every metrick. Surely that's not just due to him being a system player? What's the excuse this time?
Without muh penalties

There is no “excuse”

he is 100% a system player and that’s not even my point, Ronaldo will always be clear for me he is more complete, headers, goals, dribbling he can do it all unlike Messi
 
brainwashed world cup mouth drooling tards, get off the fucking illusion of 2026. This person did this and this person is like this so deserves this blah blah junk.
 
Without muh penalties

There is no “excuse”

he is 100% a system player and that’s not even my point, Ronaldo will always be clear for me he is more complete, headers, goals, dribbling he can do it all unlike Messi
In Europe, Messi has more goals and assists regardless whether penalties are involved or not in 50+ less games played. So without penalties, he had more goals, assists, freekicks, chances created, major chances created, dribbles completed, conversion rate and man of the matches.

And you were just calling him pessi and saying he was lucky to have 5 penalties in the 2022 wc no all off a sudden penalties are relevant? I only said without penalties knowing that regardless of penalties Messi has more goals and more assists because you were going to contradict yourself.

You're just calling him a system player with no proof. How can the player who has more dribbles, more assists, more goals in Europe despite playing 50 less matches and less minutes, more chances created, more major chances created, better conversion rate, more freekicks scored, more man of the matches, more goals outside the box, when played as a goalscorer had 3 years outscoring Ronaldo's highest goalscoring year, won more golden boots, more silver boots, more playmaker awards, covers a larger area of the pitch when you check his heatmap and you'lll see that he's everywhere be a system player who's lucky? You have not brought up a single reason as to why he's a system player, just mindless babble.

He's not a better goalscorer when you take his conversion rate into account and before you say it's because Ronaldo shoots from outside the box Messi has more goals outside the box and he's a far worse dribbler. The only thing that you've mentioned that Ronaldo is actually better than Messi at since the very beginning was headers. Literally everything you said got disproved and you just jump over to another argument completely abandoning your original point and not even addressing that I've proved you wrong.

@browgi27 @TrueAfghan Help your boy out!
 
In Europe, Messi has more goals and assists regardless whether penalties are involved or not in 50+ less games played. So without penalties, he had more goals, assists, freekicks, chances created, major chances created, dribbles completed, conversion rate and man of the matches.

And you were just calling him pessi and saying he was lucky to have 5 penalties in the 2022 wc no all off a sudden penalties are relevant? I only said without penalties knowing that regardless of penalties Messi has more goals and more assists because you were going to contradict yourself.

You're just calling him a system player with no proof. How can the player who has more dribbles, more assists, more goals in Europe despite playing 50 less matches and less minutes, more chances created, more major chances created, better conversion rate, more freekicks scored, more man of the matches, more goals outside the box, when played as a goalscorer had 3 years outscoring Ronaldo's highest goalscoring year, won more golden boots, more silver boots, more playmaker awards, covers a larger area of the pitch when you check his heatmap and you'lll see that he's everywhere be a system player who's lucky? You have not brought up a single reason as to why he's a system player, just mindless babble.

He's not a better goalscorer when you take his conversion rate into account and before you say it's because Ronaldo shoots from outside the box Messi has more goals outside the box and he's a far worse dribbler. The only thing that you've mentioned that Ronaldo is actually better than Messi at since the very beginning was headers. Literally everything you said got disproved and you just jump over to another argument completely abandoning your original point and not even addressing that I've proved you wrong.

@browgi27 @TrueAfghan Help your boy out!
Neither me or afghan boy is reading allat brother and you know that
 
Nigga thought ts was tuff:feelskek: get a job nigga
Nice argument retard, you didn't even try since you know I'm right, inb4 "I'm not reading all of that"
Neither me or afghan boy is reading allat brother and you know that
Because you don't have an argument, you were both so loud against everyone else but all off a sudden you're not reading "allat" because you don't have an argument
 
Nice argument retard, you didn't even try since you know I'm right, inb4 "I'm not reading all of that"

Because you don't have an argument, you were both so loud against everyone else but all off a sudden you're not reading "allat" because you don't have an argument
No I’m genuinely not reading that wall of words, ChatGPT essay
 
Nice argument retard, you didn't even try since you know I'm right, inb4 "I'm not reading all of that"

Because you don't have an argument, you were both so loud against everyone else but all off a sudden you're not reading "allat" because you don't have an argument
Ong the reason im not reading is im tired say that shit in short term and l will read u wrote whole paragraph
 
No I’m genuinely not reading that wall of words, ChatGPT essay
Because you have nothing to say. Your response me mentioning Messi outperforming Ronaldo in every metrick was "muh system player".
Ong the reason im not reading is im tired say that shit in short term and l will read u wrote whole paragraph
In Europe, Messi has more goals and assists regardless whether penalties are involved or not in 50+ less games played. So without penalties, he had more goals, assists, freekicks, chances created, major chances created, dribbles completed, conversion rate and man of the matches.

How can the player who has more assists, more goals in Europe despite playing 50 less matches and less minute be a system player?
 
Because you have nothing to say. Your response me mentioning Messi outperforming Ronaldo in every metrick was "muh system player".

In Europe, Messi has more goals and assists regardless whether penalties are involved or not in 50+ less games played. So without penalties, he had more goals, assists, freekicks, chances created, major chances created, dribbles completed, conversion rate and man of the matches.

How can the player who has more assists, more goals in Europe despite playing 50 less matches and less minute be a system player?
No I really was not reading that tbh
 
Because you have nothing to say. Your response me mentioning Messi outperforming Ronaldo in every metrick was "muh system player".

In Europe, Messi has more goals and assists regardless whether penalties are involved or not in 50+ less games played. So without penalties, he had more goals, assists, freekicks, chances created, major chances created, dribbles completed, conversion rate and man of the matches.

How can the player who has more assists, more goals in Europe despite playing 50 less matches and less minute be a system player?
Ronaldo was midfielder not striker im man utd that's why
 
He had approximately 70+ more games than Messi yet still had less goals and assists. Check Ronaldo's heatmap when he was a "midfielder" and comeback to me

Because you don't have an argument so you're tapping out
No I already told u why:feelskek:
 

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