pheno is EVERYTHING

[Uglybrazilian]

and when I talk about pheno im not talking about race(not necessarily)

I define pheno as your archetype, in other words your pheno is the overall image people make of you when evaluating your appearance

for example: when you look at a tall and muscular guy, you probably wont think that he is an introverted nerd
he might be, but you wont think he is at first sight simply because his archetype is different

when I look at a skinny nigga with shitty clothes and glasses I usually think he is a fuckin nerd, he might be extremely low inhib but it doesnt matter, he still looks like he is not

so what you should do is try to fit into a pheno that is generally positive in the eyes of woman, and more than this, you should try to balance your pheno to boost your appeal

EXAMPLE:

This is that nigga Zyzz Reincarnate. He was a confirmed slayer, having many JBS flocking over him on tinder and agreeing to fuck after like 3-4 messages. What he is doing right here?

Well, you can see that he has an ogre buffed rapist body. JBS/Young girls in general are not into big ogre physiques, but still they were craving for his dick and why? He managed to balance his ogre physique with long curly hair and glasses, which are both high trust/nerd/prettyboy traits.
That way he falls in between the ogre rapist pheno and the nerd high inhib pheno, skyrocketing his appeal. If he went full ogre with a buzzcut/fade and no glasses im 100% sure his SMV would fall.

 

[Deleted member 4019]

 

[Deleted member 2214]

So if someone has a very low-trust but still "youthful" face like DePoot, should they stay skinny if they already are

 

[Uglybrazilian]

So if someone has a very low-trust but still "youthful" face like DePoot, should they stay skinny if they already are

I do think so
imagine de poot with an ogre body...he would look like a literal caveman rapist

 

[Deleted member 2214]

I do think so
imagine de poot with an ogre body...he would look like a literal caveman rapist

I guess so.

 

[nvck_pilled]

he looks rank
bad pheno

 

[Uglybrazilian]

I guess so.

is your face very low trust?? you can balance it, long hair for example is a high trust feature that can balance a low trust face

 

[Deleted member 2214]

is your face very low trust?? you can balance it, long hair for example is a high trust feature that can balance a low trust face

No. My eyebrows are thick and my mouth is sort of "square", but that's it. I have big blue eyes with super PCT. Like that Yato anime character.

What I am though, is 6'7" / 201.5 cm in Mexico. Similar to Brazil, height is not really a major booster here, unless you already Chad AND very tall at the same time. I have gotten in trouble most of my life (My dad was an expat and i've lived in different countries throughout my life) for apperently "walking too suspicious amongst other" says the security guard at Liverpool, "sneaking around places I shoudn't" says the supermarket employee, "can't fit in the Peugeot" etc. shit like that. A couple months ago, I used to be a bit of a gangly kid like almost any other white/whitepassing kid above 190cm is at one point growing up (This was mostly before I turned 16, was a bit like this in February too).

Now my shoulders are wider and getting wider still, so that's good, but my arms are still sort of thin compared to my body. I have lost a few fights (mostly playfighting, but still in public) with manlet friends and it is quite embarassing, ngl

So in the last 3 months, I have been bulking up quarantine style, little by little, stuffing all the chicken breast and almonds I can down my throat and trying to take as few taquitos as I can, that way I get as much protein possible, and can end up a tall, possibly door wide, gigamogger instead of a noodle arm tall prettyboy. I am geniunely alert of my surroundings 24/7. It's a habit I actually need in a country where most doorways end at your fucking chin.

But this thread makes it seem like I will just get more unwanted attention (mostly by boomers and security guards) rather than ascend into a gigamogger.) Even if I have a high trust face, nobody will care if it isn't the first thing they notice about me first, and I don't think I have enough jaw yet to pull off a shaved head again.

Obviously, when I am 18, it won't matter, I will slay, but think about it right now. Do I really wanna take up more space now that I am inside my room most of the day sitting on my bed? I think it would be better if I stayed slim but with abs.

 

[Deleted member 10679]

No. My eyebrows are thick and my mouth is sort of "square", but that's it. I have big blue eyes with super PCT. Like that Yato anime character.

What I am though, is 6'7" / 201.5 cm in Mexico. Similar to Brazil, height is not really a major booster here, unless you already Chad AND very tall at the same time. I have gotten in trouble most of my life (My dad was an expat and i've lived in different countries throughout my life) for apperently "walking too suspicious amongst other" says the security guard at Liverpool, "sneaking around places I shoudn't" says the supermarket employee, "can't fit in the peugeot" etc. shit like that. A couple months ago, I used to be a bit of a gangly kid like almost any other white/whitepassing kid above 190cm is at one point growing up (This was mostly before I turned 16, was a bit like this in February too).

Now my shoulders are wider and getting wider still, so that's good, but my arms are still sort of thin compared to my body. I have lost a few fights (mostly playfighting, but still in public) with manlet friends and it is quite embarassing, ngl

So in the last 3 months, I have been bulking up quarantine style, little by little, stuffing all the chicken breast and almonds I can down my throat and trying to take as few taquitos as I can, that way I get as much protein possible, and can end up a tall, possibly door wide, gigamogger instead of a noodle arm tall prettyboy. I am geniunely alert of my surroundings 24/7. It's a habit I actually need in a country where most doorways end at your fucking chin.

But this thread makes it seem like I will just get more unwanted attention (mostly by boomers and security guards) rather than ascend into a gigamogger.) Even if I have a high trust face, nobody will care if it isn't the first thing they notice about me first, and I don't think I have enough jaw yet to pull off a shaved head again.

Obviously, when I am 18, it won't matter, I will slay, but think about it right now. Do I really wanna take up more space now that I am inside my room most of the day sitting on my bed? I think it would be better if I stayed slim but with abs.

Keep eating, you'll be doing yourself a favour

 

[Uglybrazilian]

No. My eyebrows are thick and my mouth is sort of "square", but that's it. I have big blue eyes with super PCT. Like that Yato anime character.

What I am though, is 6'7" / 201.5 cm in Mexico. Similar to Brazil, height is not really a major booster here, unless you already Chad AND very tall at the same time. I have gotten in trouble most of my life (My dad was an expat and i've lived in different countries throughout my life) for apperently "walking too suspicious amongst other" says the security guard at Liverpool, "sneaking around places I shoudn't" says the supermarket employee, "can't fit in the peugeot" etc. shit like that. A couple months ago, I used to be a bit of a gangly kid like almost any other white/whitepassing kid above 190cm is at one point growing up (This was mostly before I turned 16, was a bit like this in February too).

Now my shoulders are wider and getting wider still, so that's good, but my arms are still sort of thin compared to my body. I have lost a few fights (mostly playfighting, but still in public) with manlet friends and it is quite embarassing, ngl

So in the last 3 months, I have been bulking up quarantine style, little by little, stuffing all the chicken breast and almonds I can down my throat and trying to take as few taquitos as I can, that way I get as much protein possible, and can end up a tall, possibly door wide, gigamogger instead of a noodle arm tall prettyboy. I am geniunely alert of my surroundings 24/7. It's a habit I actually need in a country where most doorways end at your fucking chin.

But this thread makes it seem like I will just get more unwanted attention (mostly by boomers and security guards) rather than ascend into a gigamogger.) Even if I have a high trust face, nobody will care if it isn't the first thing they notice about me first, and I don't think I have enough jaw yet to pull off a shaved head again.

Obviously, when I am 18, it won't matter, I will slay, but think about it right now. Do I really wanna take up more space now that I am inside my room most of the day sitting on my bed? I think it would be better if I stayed slim but with abs.

nigga 2.01 WTF you are a freak of nature
you should gymaxx, just dont overdo it, with your height and muscles you can slay in europe and US, even tho it wont do much for you in latin america

 

[Deleted member 10679]

nigga 2.01 WTF you are a freak of nature
you should gymaxx, just dont overdo it, with your height and muscles you can slay in europe and US, even tho it wont do much for you in latin america

Legit he could mog a 6ft-6ft2 psl 6 guy if he's gymmaxxed and at least psl4.5 at 6ft7

 

[Uglybrazilian]

Legit he could mog a 6ft-6ft2 psl 6 guy if he's gymmaxxed and at least psl4.5 at 6ft7

in the US he would be a gigamogger for his height alone

 

[Deleted member 9344]

and when I talk about pheno im not talking about race(not necessarily)

I define pheno as your archetype, in other words your pheno is the overall image people make of you when evaluating your appearance

for example: when you look at a tall and muscular guy, you probably wont think that he is an introverted nerd
he might be, but you wont think he is at first sight simply because his archetype is different

when I look at a skinny nigga with shitty clothes and glasses I usually think he is a fuckin nerd, he might be extremely low inhib but it doesnt matter, he still looks like he is not

so what you should do is try to fit into a pheno that is generally positive in the eyes of woman, and more than this, you should try to balance your pheno to boost your appeal

EXAMPLE:
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This is that nigga Zyzz Reincarnate. He was a confirmed slayer, having many JBS flocking over him on tinder and agreeing to fuck after like 3-4 messages. What he is doing right here?

Well, you can see that he has an ogre buffed rapist body. JBS/Young girls in general are not into big ogre physiques, but still they were craving for his dick and why? He managed to balance his ogre physique with long curly hair and glasses, which are both high trust/nerd/prettyboy traits.
That way he falls in between the ogre rapist pheno and the nerd high inhib pheno, skyrocketing his appeal. If he went full ogre with a buzzcut/fade and no glasses im 100% sure his SMV would fall.

That's not pheno though, that's more of the individual person. Pheno is your race/ethnicity hence "phenotype" & you can't change that.

 

[Uglybrazilian]

That's not pheno though, that's more of the individual person. Pheno is your race/ethnicity hence "phenotype" & you can't change that.

I have a different definition of pheno I said it right in the beginning

 

[Deleted member 2214]

nigga 2.01 WTF you are a freak of nature
you should gymaxx, just dont overdo it, with your height and muscles you can slay in europe and US, even tho it wont do much for you in latin america

My evening height right now is 199.5 cm. I made a thread about how I thought I was 6'8", but I am still heightmaxxing with stretches and protein blocks so when I move to northern Europe when I am older (I have big plans that I want to explain another day) I am still a heightmogger.

Would you say 270 lbs / 122 kg at 15% (I doubt I'll grow to much now) is "keep an eye on that guy" tier? Right now, I am 224 lbs at, like 17% bodyfat. I am strong, and I will say pretty fit compared to most people here, but my abs and biceps are getting sort of wobbly, like jelly. I am basically losing them, which to me is a big problem, since I wanna stay lean and not lose millimeter of visible bone right now.

 

[Uglybrazilian]

My evening height right now is 199.5 cm. I made a thread about how I thought I was 6'8", but I am still heightmaxxing with stretches and protein blocks so when I move to northern Europe when I am older (I have big plans that I want to explain another day) I am still a heightmogger.

Would you say 270 lbs / 122 kg at 15% (I doubt I'll grow to much now) is "keep an eye on that guy" tier? Right now, I am 224 lbs at, like 17% bodyfat. I am strong, and I will say pretty fit compared to most people here, but my abs and biceps are getting sort of wobbly, like jelly. I am basically losing them, which to me is a big problem, since I wanna stay lean and not lose millimeter of visible bone right now.

15% and 122kg is okay for you imo you can mog most niggas in europe or US just by your height alone, at 2.00m you are abnormally tall pretty much everywhere in the world, even on a dinka tribe

 

[Deleted member 9344]

I have a different definition of pheno I said it right in the beginning

There is only one definition of pheno lol. Phenotype: the set of observable characteristics of an individual resulting from the interaction of its genotype with the environment. Phenotypes results in how an organism adapts to it's environment (evolution).

 

[Deleted member 10679]

I have a different definition of pheno I said it right in the beginning

I think you mean archetype then like if you look like a jock or nerd or emo I guess

 

[Uglybrazilian]

There is only one definition of pheno lol. Phenotype: the set of observable characteristics of an individual resulting from the interaction of its genotype with the environment. Phenotypes results in how an organism adapts to it's environment (evolution).

Can you stop being like that please
I know phenotype refers to genetics, but it can be used in different ways inside the PSL community
for example, its said that Elias De Poot has "school shooter pheno" even tho "school shooter" is not cataloged in any biology book as an actual phenotype

 

[Uglybrazilian]

I think you mean archetype then like if you look like a jock or nerd or emo I guess

yes, but I said it in the thread nigga didnt you niggas read it???? I literally said archetype

 

[Deleted member 9344]

Can you stop being like that please
I know phenotype refers to genetics, but it can be used in different ways inside the PSL community
for example, its said that Elias De Poot has "school shooter pheno" even tho "school shooter" is not cataloged in any biology book as an actual phenotype

Than that's archetype. Phenotype =/= Archetype.

 

[Uglybrazilian]

Pheno can be used in different ways in our lingo, for example, its said that Jordan Barret has "gay alien pheno" even tho its highly unlikely that homosexual aliens were found out by humanity yet

 

[Deleted member 10679]

yes, but I said it in the thread nigga didnt you niggas read it???? I literally said archetype

Calm down jamal, I skimmed it but yeah I understood what you were going for with pheno

You should make something like this so it's clearer for other users

 

[Uglybrazilian]

Than that's archetype. Phenotype =/= Archetype.

Yeah and I have said it, but in the PSL community pheno has the same meaning of archetype so at the end it doesnt matter what word I use

 

[Uglybrazilian]

Calm down jamal, I skimmed it but yeah I understood what you were going for with pheno

You should make something like this so it's clearer for other users

I know, thats why I tried to explain what I mean with pheno
I didnt know about this img tho, I would post it if I had it

 

[Deleted member 2214]

Legit he could mog a 6ft-6ft2 psl 6 guy if he's gymmaxxed and at least psl4.5 at 6ft7

15% and 122kg is okay for you imo you can mog most niggas in europe or US just by your height alone, at 2.00m you are abnormally tall pretty much everywhere in the world, even on a dinka tribe

Read my sig, guys.

I have always been tall (sometimes above average, most of the time a head taller) and nobody IRL cares that much. I was a bit of a, you know...epic dark triad bully bad boy in fucking primary school...and then I started being a mouthbreathing late bloomer diagnosed with asperger's. Gladly, I was moving countries, so I never suffered any bullying or loss of status, but hey, I did lose a lot friendships and connections.

My face is a lot better than it was when I was 14-15 two years ago (I actually have noticable cheekbones now), but I still have a pretty roundish gonial angle, which is noticably below my ear, but combined with my puffy mouth and kitty eye area, I am what one could describe as a "babyfaced" prettyboy. Like I said, I am leanmaxxing and getting bigger at the same time. I have to be REALLY careful with what I put in my mouth.

 

[Uglybrazilian]

Read my sig, guys.

I have always been tall (sometimes above average, most of time a head taller) and nobody IRL cares that much. I was a bit of a, you know...epic dark triad bully bad boy in fucking primary school...and then I started being a mouthbreathing late bloomer diagnosed with asperger's. Gladly, I was moving countries, so I never suffered any bullying or loss of status, but hey, I did lose a lot friendships and connections.

My face is a lot better than it was when I was 14-15 two years ago (I actually have noticable cheekbones now), but I still have a pretty roundish gonial angle, which is noticably below my ear, but combined with my puffy mouth and kitty eye area, I am what one could describe as a "babyface". Like I said, I am leanmaxxing and getting bigger at the same time. I have to be REALLY careful with what I put in my mouth.

You live in Mexico nobody cares for height in latin america, in Brazil height doesnt make a fuckin difference too, Im also above average here and it does nothing for me

but in the US and Europe at 2.00m you are a gigaslayer by default your face literally doesnt matter, most women cant even see it at your height tbh

 

[Deleted member 2214]

You live in Mexico nobody cares for height in latin america, in Brazil height doesnt make a fuckin difference too, Im also above average here and it does nothing for me

but in the US and Europe at 2.00m you are a gigaslayer by default your face literally doesnt matter, most women cant even see it at your height tbh

Well, bro, you tell me... I live close to cdmx, and the city still has a million places shut down due to Covid. The airports all around the country are a mess right now. Plane is the last choice in the universe I have right now.

And also, you are telling me that I am gonna go to the USA, also a country that is going through a lot of events right now, and has known negative views on Latin Americans no matter how whitepassing or Nordic they may look, just to see if girls care about my height there?

 

[Deleted member 5349]

Masc appeal with some feminine features is ideal. This is why women prefer David Laid to Jeff Seid in Tinder experiments

 

[Uglybrazilian]

Well, bro, you tell me... I live close to cdmx, and the city still has a million places shut down due to Covid. The airports all around the country are a mess right now. Plane is the last choice in the universe I have right now.

And also, you are telling me that I am gonna go to the USA, also a country that is going through a lot of events right now, and has known negative views on Latin Americans no matter how whitepassing or Nordic they may look, just to see if girls care about my height there?

not now bro you are too young tbh, but in the future you should muricamaxx ngl

 

[Uglybrazilian]

Masc appeal with feminine features is ideal. This is why women prefer David Laid to Jeff Seid in Tinder experiments

yeah, that shows how balance is better than being full ogre or full feminine

 

[Deleted member 2214]

not now bro you are too young tbh, but in the future you should muricamaxx ngl

Ok, maybe I will, but just tell me:

- Bulk up to 290-300 lbs gigamogger who might get pulled over at an amusement park's bumper cars, gives good balance between face
- Or 250-260 lbs guy who isn't skinny at all, but looks slim with a shirt on due to proportions and is even more high trust

 

[Uglybrazilian]

Ok, but just tell me because I need to go to sleep rn:

- Bulk up to 290-300 lbs gigamogger who might get pulled over at an amusement park's bumper cars, gives good balance between face
- Or 250-260 lbs guy who isn't skinny at all, but looks slim with a shirt on due to proportions and is even more high trust

at your height a big roided body may be overkill
just get a fit, slim body, the type of body in which people can tell you workout even in clothes(but not bodybuilder tier)