Yes school have to teach farming, building house and electrician
There's no actual truth in philosophy nor does it lead anywhere
No but genuinely yes
Sorry to say but truth doesn't exist
What isn't? What purpose does it really serve if we ignore things 95% of people already know
That's exactly what I mean
Big brain talk
cope formal logic is a field of philosophy and it actually do the opposite of what you are talking, its literally the maths and truth of the argument, you think philosophy is "does got exitst cuz i feel it, and bla bla bla", look at an actual philosopher: https://github.com/AJacks2020/Godel.../blob/main/Manuscript_Gödel's_Ontological.pdf
Well then that's good
Contradiction !
Dude this is a prime example. You will not prove or disprove the existence of god with philosophy
What are you even on about
Now define existence bro
You cant prove but you can prove if the arguments are valid, if they are correct or not, in the godels case, they were incorrect, in both ontological and in a logical level. logic is about valid not about true, that is for science and observation
How do you know that statement is true, and by what exact rules of logic or value did you prove it without using philosophy itself?
Why would I care to get some perfect definition for the word "existence"? And also if there's been philosophers for thousands of years and there's still not one CLEARLY right theory somehow proving the existence of a god then it's pretty obvious how useless it really is
So again it led absolutely nowhere
he didnt knew philosophy born that way, he thing philosophy is when you are high and say "the universe have more live than us humans, cuz logically if the universe if infinite they should be infinite possiblities" or some shit like that
OMG you have a serious problem, i will explain this to you don't have the ego to admin, you screwed up, nothing happens. The computer and device you are using, the ai, any complex system, such as airplanes etc, needs a logical audit, that is, does this protocol work, with these axioms (rules, bases)? ANY MATHEMATICAL THEORY NEEDS LOGIC TO SAY WHETHER IT IS VALID OR NOT; ANYONE, ask chatgpt OMG
It's not supposed to be objectively true
You're still in the common sense territory incappable of putting on your glasses to see the meaning behind your own definition of existence which probably is "be seen". If existence depended only on human perception we would deny the existence of other things like waves, sounds or electromagnetism. There's no theories on philosophy, leave that for sciences. And the reason is because philosophy doesn't require phenomenoms, science does. Sciences use *concepts* and systems of truth to determine if a premise is correct. Like geometry uses euclidean and non euclidean systems. Knowledge does not depend on what you can hear, see, or touch. Perceptions are meaningless by themselves.
Godels ontological argument is circular garbage IIRC but I agree.
As I said that's basically common sense. the people who invented computers were not some fucking philosophers and you know it lol
If it’s just your personal opinion and not objectively true, why use a definitive statement
its not about the argument itself but how philosophers operate, that guy have a serious problem and is a fucking google research away to find it out but cant give it a try huh
Wrong, they were philosophers like Alan Turing, Saussure or mathematicians like Von Neumann. Mathematicians invented coding, a language using a new system of logic before computers were created. All this was text in books before JFL.
Godel is a genius regardless. I get his confusion because when most people think of philosophy they are thinking of the worst of continental philosophy or even worse tiktok niggas like Jett Franzen who are just "deep thought" generators.
did you read it? i just ask ai cuz you are so lazy to do it yourself, but it was i was trying to explain, any math theory ANY needs philosophy:
1. That's obviously not what I'd accept as a definition of existence
Philosophy gave us a lot of things: psychology, economy, theory of right, modern politics, ethics, theories of the state, social classes as a concept, art theory, the limits of human thought and perception, idea of consciousness, and logic of language. Ignore metaphysics.
Well I should have said metaphysics is useless instead
. Although many of the things you listed still fall into common sense territory
It's called western civilization aka european thought. Education systems also teach people all of this but if you go back to 1500's it would not be water. History beats philosophy, a thought system is local (like India, China, France, Greece) but history is universal.Although many of the things you listed still fall into common sense territory
Yes somewhat agree not fully bullshit tho
Because they usually just lacked the knowledge
