Physical contact with women

[zygot]

When I hangout with women conversation goes perfectly fine
but then when It comes to physical stuff , I hate so much
I hate sex
I hate cuddling
I hate kissing
everytime I touch a female I get a weird disgusted feeling in me
might be a fag idfk

 

[emogymmaxx]

might be a fag idfk

 

[TopTierIncel42]

lowest testosterone ever recorded

 

[zygot]

lowest testosterone ever recorded

my t is 675

 

[CHRIST_764]

Low estrogen

 

[zygot]

Low estrogen

my estrogen was 25 pg ml
how do i raise?

 

[Apchun144]

might be a fag idfk

 

[CHRIST_764]

my estrogen was 25 pg ml
how do i raise?

Higher bodyfat thats what I'm trying

 

[Apchun144]

my estrogen was 25 pg ml
how do i raise?

Inject test without taking ai
and this too

 

[zygot]

Inject test without taking ai
and this tooView attachment 4627294

female hormones blend ??

 

[Apchun144]

female hormones blend ??

It will increase e2 but not much

 

[zygot]

It will increase e2 but not much

will this help my sex drive?
i can still get hard and shit
but I hate any physical contact it gives me a weird feeling in my whole body
again i'm probably coping for being a fag idk

 

[Apchun144]

will this help my sex drive?

You’ll become a femboy, your levels of e2 rn are in the perfect range

i can still get hard and shit

Probably

again i'm probably coping for being a fag idk

what’s wrong with being a fag

 

[Outlander]

When I hangout with women conversation goes perfectly fine

Can't relate, talking to women goes about as smooth as shifting gears in a manual transmission without using the clutch

I hate sex
I hate cuddling
I hate kissing

So you've experienced these things?

everytime I touch a female I get a weird disgusted feeling in me

 

[zygot]

what’s wrong with being a fag

nothing people can be whatever they wanna be idgaf
but my parents would kick me out

 

[zygot]

So you've experienced these things?

Yes somewhat frequently for my age I guess
and its torture every fucking time

 

[Outlander]

Yes somewhat frequently for my age I guess
and its torture every fucking time

 

[zygot]

agreed

 

[Apchun144]

nothing people can be whatever they wanna be idgaf
but my parents would kick me out

Inject test
Test would aromatase to e2
If parents find out you’re injecting test say it’s to prevent me being a femboy but it doesn’t really work
Enjoy being fag because parents think you didn’t do it on purpose

 

[Outlander]

Yes somewhat frequently for my age I guess
and its torture every fucking time

You're literally the same one who was complaining about how hostile people are to you in school jfl, and then you say this shit. Actual social outcasts don't get relationships and intimacy in highschool, so what the heck are you even complaining about

 

[zygot]

Inject test
Test would aromatase to e2
If parents find out you’re injecting test say it’s to prevent me being a femboy but it doesn’t really work
Enjoy being fag because parents think you didn’t do it on purpose

okay thanks

 

[zygot]

You're literally the same one who was complaining about how hostile people are to you in school jfl, and then you say this shit. Actual social outcasts don't get relationships and intimacy in highschool, so what the heck are you even complaining about

school and outside of school at clubs/parties is different.
my school is a hellhole full of jesters

 

[Outlander]

school and outside of school at clubs/parties is different.
my school is a hellhole full of jesters

So how do you even get into clubs or parties? That's not really all too commonplace around here

 

[zygot]

So how do you even get into clubs or parties? That's not really all too commonplace around here

I have a sister in college I go to the local college parties,
I use fake id for clubs and get on guest list through websites

 

[Outlander]

I have a sister in college I go to the local college parties,
I use fake id for clubs and get on guest list through websites

Something tells me you must be from a big city where social opportunities come a lot easier

 

[small_solomon]

When I hangout with women conversation goes perfectly fine
but then when It comes to physical stuff , I hate so much
I hate sex
I hate cuddling
I hate kissing
everytime I touch a female I get a weird disgusted feeling in me
might be a fag idfk

Just become a femboy atp

 

[zygot]

Something tells me you must be from a big city where social opportunities come a lot easier

yeah I'm in a big city
how are social opportunities different in smaller cities?

 

[ryze1x]

okay thanks

ur just listening to slop atp the aromatization to estrogen causes gyno, growth plate closure (u mentioned ur in 10th grade) literally everything u wouldnt want it to do

 

[zygot]

ur just listening to slop atp the aromatization to estrogen causes gyno, growth plate closure (u mentioned ur in 10th grade) literally everything u wouldnt want it to do

okay thanks
i'd end myself if i ever get gyno

 

[Outlander]

yeah I'm in a big city
how are social opportunities different in smaller cities?

Basically clubs aren't really a thing, less social events, so essentially less opportunities to make social connections. Closest thing to clubs around here are bars. It's a lot easier to end up socially isolated in a less populated place but with that said I still would hate to live in a congested city

 

[autistic.goblin]

“I hate sex”

Fuck you nigger

 

[zygot]

Basically clubs aren't really a thing, less social events, so essentially less opportunities to make social connections. Closest thing to clubs around here are bars. It's a lot easier to end up socially isolated in a less populated place but with that said I still would hate to live in a congested city

damn that sounds shitting bars are awful unless ur a middle aged white person tryna drink and do hella coke

 

[Outlander]

damn that sounds shitting bars are awful unless ur a middle aged white person tryna drink and do hella coke

Yeah I'm not much of a fan of bars and prefer to just drink alone in the house. Besides that even if you like bars, if you're actually gonna get drunk enough for it to be fun that means you can't drive after so you'd need to get an uber or have a designated driver. I see way too many drunk idiots on the road that are hazards and slow down traffic. Few weeks ago I was behind some drunk idiot on the highway and they were wandering all over the road and going slow as hell, and then when I got to the section there is a passing zone and began to pass, this dumbass sped up and then wandered into my lane as I was passing and I narrowly ended up being hit by them.

 

[zygot]

Yeah I'm not much of a fan of bars and prefer to just drink alone in the house. Besides that even if you like bars, if you're actually gonna get drunk enough for it to be fun that means you can't drive after so you'd need to get an uber or have a designated driver. I see way too many drunk idiots on the road that are hazards and slow down traffic. Few weeks ago I was behind some drunk idiot on the highway and they were wandering all over the road and going slow as hell, and then when I got to the section there is a passing zone and began to pass, this dumbass sped up and then wandered into my lane as I was passing and I narrowly ended up being hit by them.

Yeah drunk drivers are horrid
I walk to most clubs around my area
to much cops to drive when I could just walk a mile or so

 

[Vvvvv2]

Gay

 

[zygot]

Gay

valid

 

[Outlander]

Yeah drunk drivers are horrid
I walk to most clubs around my area
to much cops to drive when I could just walk a mile or so

Around here not much is within walking distance. Most places I need to go are 5-10 miles away and I often drive 50+ miles at a time for certain things. Those 50+ mile drives can be amazing if there's no jackasses on the road ruining it but some days you just encounter one dumbfuck after another and it will make that entire drive miserable. Last year I drove over 10k miles total, much of which was fun, but a lot of it was ruined by dummies too. Least when the weather is nice I know a few good sections of highway that make excellent speeding spots at night, and I've done close to 100 miles an hour many times

 

[zygot]

Around here not much is within walking distance. Most places I need to go are 5-10 miles away and I often drive 50+ miles at a time for certain things. Those 50+ mile drives can be amazing if there's no jackasses on the road ruining it but some days you just encounter one dumbfuck after another and it will make that entire drive miserable. Last year I drove over 10k miles total, much of which was fun, but a lot of it was ruined by dummies too. Least when the weather is nice I know a few good sections of highway that make excellent speeding spots at night, and I've done close to 100 miles an hour many times

goddamn you really live in the middle of nowhere

 

[Outlander]

goddamn you really live in the middle of nowhere

Well, the 50 mile drives are to a specific place I like to go occasionally and it's not like it's absolute wilderness the entire time. It goes through a bunch of counties and smaller towns. But there are some rural places around here where you could drive for an hour and not see a car on some quiet days

 

[zygot]

Well, the 50 mile drives are to a specific place I like to go occasionally and it's not like it's absolute wilderness the entire time. It goes through a bunch of counties and smaller towns. But there are some rural places around here where you could drive for an hour and not see a car on some quiet days

this might be a dumb question but are their lower looks expectations over their?
like could a mtn in a big city be a htn in a less populated place?

 

[Outlander]

this might be a dumb question but are their lower looks expectations over their?
like could a mtn in a big city be a htn in a less populated place?

Nah not from my experience. Looks standards are pretty much the same here, but having good social skills aka being NT probably plays a bigger role here than in large cities since social opportunities are less in general. I'm a 6'0" mtn and 170 pounds and still a KHHV in my 20s. I've seen guys way shorter, uglier, and less lean than me still get girlfriends so how many social connections you have plays a big role.

 

[zygot]

Nah not from my experience. Looks standards are pretty much the same here, but having good social skills aka being NT probably plays a bigger role here than in large cities since social opportunities are less in general. I'm a 6'0" mtn and 170 pounds and still a KHHV in my 20s. I've seen guys way shorter, uglier, and less lean than me still get girlfriends so how many social connections you have plays a big role.

That makes a lot of sense.
Thanks
how tf do you guys be getting drugs small cities be having plugs like that?

 

[enlightful]

everytime I touch a female I get a weird disgusted feeling in me
might be a fag idfk

 

[Outlander]

That makes a lot of sense.
Thanks
how tf do you guys be getting drugs small cities be having plugs like that?

I don't get drugs lol because I don't have the connections for that and ain't risking trying to find that on the dark web. Only "drugs" I get are prescription drugs like the benzos they give you for sleep issues and other stuff. I do have alcohol fairly often though and in the past tried cigs, but stopped that because I've seen the addictions family members had and promised myself I'd never let that crippling addiction happen to me. Some of them couldn't even stand to go an hour without a cig, and would go through over a pack a day. I like alcohol but am not that addicted and can easily not have any for a week or more without feeling the insane cravings and misery the smokers did if they tried stopping that for a week

 

[zygot]

I don't get drugs lol because I don't have the connections for that and ain't risking trying to find that on the dark web. Only "drugs" I get are prescription drugs like the benzos they give you for sleep issues and other stuff. I do have alcohol fairly often though and in the past tried cigs, but stopped that because I've seen the addictions family members had and promised myself I'd never let that crippling addiction happen to me. Some of them couldn't even stand to go an hour without a cig, and would go through over a pack a day. I like alcohol but am not that addicted and can easily not have any for a week or more without feeling the insane cravings and misery the smokers did if they tried stopping that for a week

oh shit do you use anything for appetite suppression ?
I used coke to suppress mine it worked really well for a little bit had to hop off because I genuinely started craving ts

 

[Outlander]

oh shit do you use anything for appetite suppression ?
I used coke to suppress mine it worked really well for a little bit had to hop off because I genuinely started craving ts

Nah why would I wanna suppress my appetite? No need

 

[zygot]

Nah why would I wanna suppress my appetite? No need

fair point ur 6 foot 170
why not fraudmaxx to 6'3 ?

 

[Outlander]

fair point ur 6 foot 170
why not fraudmaxx to 6'3 ?

Really have no interest in wearing uncomfortable shoes and all that shit just to fake it, and eventually you'd have to take it off and people would see your real height regardless. 6'0" is already above average for my area so I don't have much insecurities as far as height goes. It's not super tall where you instantly stand out, but it's also certainly not a failo and is not a reason why I can't get a gf

 

[zygot]

Really have no interest in wearing uncomfortable shoes and all that shit just to fake it, and eventually you'd have to take it off and people would see your real height regardless. 6'0" is already above average for my area so I don't have much insecurities as far as height goes. It's not super tall where you instantly stand out, but it's also certainly not a failo and is not a reason why I can't get a gf

fair

 

[Deleted member 13158]

if ur not getting hard from making out and touching a girl, wtf is wrong with u lol