Physique maxing with anavar?

[fucknatty]

Just ordered some should arrive soon enough.

Plan on running 20 mgs for 7 weeks

Pharma grade anavar (like produced by a legit pharmaceutical company) so dosage is as accurate as it gets.

No test base, goals building muscle on a cut since i've only spent 4 months in the gym i wanna speed shit up so with noob gains it will probably not take long to see results.

Is the plan sound? lower dosage because its my first cycle my body should go crazy bc of this new unknown DHT substance going through my body.

 

[Dewhey321]

Just ordered some should arrive soon enough.

Plan on running 20 mgs for 7 weeks

Pharma grade anavar (like produced by a legit pharmaceutical company) so dosage is as accurate as it gets.

No test base, goals building muscle on a cut since i've only spent 4 months in the gym i wanna speed shit up so with noob gains it will probably not take long to see results.

Is the plan sound? lower dosage because its my first cycle my body should go crazy bc of this new unknown DHT substance going through my body.

No its a retarded cycle

 

[fucknatty]

No its a retarded cycle

Why do you say that?

 

[fucknatty]

btw if the plan is shit i could simply sell it for like 10 bucks more than i bought it for and call it a day. anavar sells quick.

 

[Dewhey321]

Why do you say that?

not only will the anavar suppress you for a long time post cycle, but ur gonna lose muscle off a 2 month anavar only cycle without a test base

 

[fucknatty]

not only will the anavar suppress you for a long time post cycle, but ur gonna lose muscle off a 2 month anavar only cycle without a test base

even with nolvadex PCT?

 

[discord m0d]

jonas made a good guide on botb, you should read it

 

[Dewhey321]

even with nolvadex PCT?

yeah itll restore ur natural production faster, but where does the fear of a test base come from?

 

[fucknatty]

jonas made a good guide on botb, you should read it

BOTB stands for?

 

[discord m0d]

BOTB stands for?

best of the best, check it out before posting a thread asking a question.

 

[fucknatty]

yeah itll restore ur natural production faster, but where does the fear of a test base come from?

No fear whatsoever thought it was a good idea to go for something mild as my first cycle.

 

[Dewhey321]

No fear whatsoever thought it was a good idea to go for something mild as my first cycle.

i mean test + anavar for a first cycle is pretty mild

 

[fucknatty]

i mean test + anavar for a first cycle is pretty mild

how much test cyp to pin for how long and what do i do for estrogen management? wouldn't i be better off just straight up running a test only cycle?

 

[Finalkiosk]

not only will the anavar suppress you for a long time post cycle, but ur gonna lose muscle off a 2 month anavar only cycle without a test base

i actually ran a 20mg anavar daily + 12.5mg enclo cycle before i pinned test, my total test went up 300ng/dl and my free test went up too

anavar does not suppress you the way people say it does

its an oral and its in your blood at low concentrations, injectables are suppressing you 24/7, anavar best case if you do split dose is only suppressing you 10mg worth for like 9 hrs

 

[fucknatty]

i actually ran a 20mg anavar daily + 12.5mg enclo cycle before i pinned test, my total test went up 300ng/dl and my free test went up too

anavar does not suppress you the way people say it does

its an oral and its in your blood at low concentrations, injectables are suppressing you 24/7, anavar best case if you do split dose is only suppressing you 10mg worth for like 9 hrs

split dose as in 10 mg pre workout 10 mg before bed right

 

[Dewhey321]

i actually ran a 20mg anavar daily + 12.5mg enclo cycle before i pinned test, my total test went up 300ng/dl and my free test went up too

anavar does not suppress you the way people say it does

its an oral and its in your blood at low concentrations, injectables are suppressing you 24/7, anavar best case if you do split dose is only suppressing you 10mg worth for like 9 hrs

people respond differently than others, my boy full crashed off of it, 8 week cycle of 25 mg anavar, then right after he went on lgd

 

[fucknatty]

people respond differently than others, my boy full crashed off of it, 8 week cycle of 25 mg anavar, then right after he went on lgd

why would he hop on a sarm after ending a cycle bruh

 

[fucknatty]

whats the worst case scenario if i just pct off of anavar?

 

[Dewhey321]

how much test cyp to pin for how long and what do i do for estrogen management? wouldn't i be better off just straight up running a test only cycle?

aromasin, how much in ml depends on the dosage concentration on the vial, but start out with 250 mg then see how you feel, and test only cycle isnt bad in itself for a starter, but why not add an oral to take advantage of the base

 

[i_blamegamertag]

No test base

Okay this nigga is a homosexual

 

[Finalkiosk]

people respond differently than others, my boy full crashed off of it, 8 week cycle of 25 mg anavar, then right after he went on lgd

i went from 400ng/dl test natty to 700ng/dl + anavars anabolism

so my total test went up, aiding in anabolism, dht conversion, ect ect, so i had more gains from test, and then i also had 20mg of var in my system doing extra shit

anavar doesnt aromitise so it cannot attatch to the same receptors enclomiphene tricks

anavar + enclo HAS TO increase your total test because anavar isnt detected as estrogen, and enclo tricks your body into thinking your low on estrogen so your produce 4-5x more lh and fsh

 

[Dewhey321]

why would he hop on a sarm after ending a cycle bruh

hes a retard, and had no idea what he was doing, nonetheless the anavar full suppressed him

 

[fucknatty]

Okay this nigga is a homosexual

imagine insulting someone for asking a simple question

 

[Finalkiosk]

split dose as in 10 mg pre workout 10 mg before bed right

yes, or 10mg morning 10mg preworkout

 

[Finalkiosk]

imagine insulting someone for asking a simple question

they are right tbh

you are nowhere near ready for your first cycle if you didnt think about your test levels during the cycle

maybe give it a few years, go watch some vigorous steve

 

[fucknatty]

they are right tbh

you are nowhere near ready for your first cycle if you didnt think about your test levels during the cycle

maybe give it a few years, go watch some vigorous steve

maybe their point still stands but insulting someone over a fucking question is just dickhead behavior

 

[Finalkiosk]

maybe their point still stands but insulting someone over a fucking question is just dickhead behavior

your focusing on the wrong thing

sell that var, get your money back, watch some vigorous steve, come back in 2 years

 

[fucknatty]

your focusing on the wrong thing

sell that var, get your money back, watch some vigorous steve, come back in 2 years

kinda the point of why im running the var, i do not want to wait 2 years. i want results now.

 

[Dewhey321]

i went from 400ng/dl test natty to 700ng/dl + anavars anabolism

so my total test went up, aiding in anabolism, dht conversion, ect ect, so i had more gains from test, and then i also had 20mg of var in my system doing extra shit

anavar doesnt aromitise so it cannot attatch to the same receptors enclomiphene tricks

anavar + enclo HAS TO increase your total test because anavar isnt detected as estrogen, and enclo tricks your body into thinking your low on estrogen so your produce 4-5x more lh and fsh

whats the point in mentioning anavars non-aromatizing properties? but your body will still suppress regardless of ur estrogen, whether enclo can out power anavars shut down signal is the question, and im pretty sure it cant

 

[fucknatty]

your focusing on the wrong thing

sell that var, get your money back, watch some vigorous steve, come back in 2 years

and now that i think about it i think its a pretty bad idea to run a compound under 2 years of training, probably will sell the var to a local gym bro or something

 

[Finalkiosk]

kinda the point of why im running the var, i do not want to wait 2 years. i want results now.

lowering your test is counter intuitive, 20mg wont do much for gains if your not on 350mg test a week

anavar works through increasing training capacity, which allows you to get more out of your injectables passively

dont expect much if your still so excited to use your 100 var tabs

 

[fucknatty]

lowering your test is counter intuitive, 20mg wont do much for gains if your not on 350mg test a week

anavar works through increasing training capacity, which allows you to get more out of your injectables passively

dont expect much if your still so excited to use your 100 var tabs

ur right im gonna sell this shit when i get it

 

[Finalkiosk]

whats the point in mentioning anavars non-aromatizing properties? but your body will still suppress regardless of ur estrogen, whether enclo can out power anavars shut down signal is the question, and im pretty sure it cant

our hp has multiple different receptors that sense sex hormones and then consequently release lh and fsh

the estrogen one happens to be the most potent

a dose of 12.5mg/day enclo brought my lh from 5 to 25.2, and fsh from 2.4 to 14.7

if anavar magically turned into estrogen, it would be attaching to the estrogen receptors in your brain, signalling that there is enough estrogen in our body, directly competing with enclo

im sure if you used something that aromitizes like dbol you would get very shitty test results because half of the receptors are being stimulated by the methyl estradiol of dbol instead of enclo antagonizing it


yes enclo can overpower anavar, if anything, if your going to take enclo for general test, you should be taking anavar to lower your shbg because enclo raises it substantially

12.5mg enclo overpowered 20mg anavar daily and increased my total t by 300

everyones brain has the same estrogen receptor feedback loop, for someone else enclomiphene wont magically block your brain from sensing testosterone or any other aas instead of estrogen

theres a reason why something like primo, which doesnt aromitise, still shuts you down, it cant possibly be through estrogen because we know it cant aromitise, but somehow your still shut down right?


anavar and enclo compliment eachother perfectly

 

[Finalkiosk]

ur right im gonna sell this shit when i get it

next time buy it from qsc, they sell 100x50mg tabs for $75

you probably got ripped and paid over 150 for your 100 tabs

get yourself a few bottles of test e and once your ready youl make some real gains, until then do some research and dont buy over priced shit

 

[fucknatty]

next time buy it from qsc, they sell 100x50mg tabs for $75

you probably got ripped and paid over 150 for your 100 tabs

get yourself a few bottles of test e and once your ready youl make some real gains, until then do some research and dont buy over priced shit

paid 66 usd 100 tabs axon labs

 

[Finalkiosk]

paid 66 usd 100 tabs axon labs

not bad, couldve gotten 5x the potency for the same price

your first cycle shouldnt be more than 50mg test a day alongside 25mg var a day

train natty until you understand everything about roids

the last thing you want is side effects that are gonna make you hate roids

 

[Dewhey321]

our hp has multiple different receptors that sense sex hormones and then consequently release lh and fsh

the estrogen one happens to be the most potent

a dose of 12.5mg/day enclo brought my lh from 5 to 25.2, and fsh from 2.4 to 14.7

if anavar magically turned into estrogen, it would be attaching to the estrogen receptors in your brain, signalling that there is enough estrogen in our body, directly competing with enclo

im sure if you used something that aromitizes like dbol you would get very shitty test results because half of the receptors are being stimulated by the methyl estradiol of dbol instead of enclo antagonizing it


yes enclo can overpower anavar, if anything, if your going to take enclo for general test, you should be taking anavar to lower your shbg because enclo raises it substantially

12.5mg enclo overpowered 20mg anavar daily and increased my total t by 300

everyones brain has the same estrogen receptor feedback loop, for someone else enclomiphene wont magically block your brain from sensing testosterone or any other aas instead of estrogen

theres a reason why something like primo, which doesnt aromitise, still shuts you down, it cant possibly be through estrogen because we know it cant aromitise, but somehow your still shut down right?


anavar and enclo compliment eachother perfectly

good hustle, thanks 4 info

 

[fucknatty]

not bad, couldve gotten 5x the potency for the same price

your first cycle shouldnt be more than 50mg test a day alongside 25mg var a day

train natty until you understand everything about roids

the last thing you want is side effects that are gonna make you hate roids

making them ship internationally is pretty much sending my ass to prison, i did my due diligence searching for it locally.

 

[Finalkiosk]

making them ship internationally is pretty much sending my ass to prison, i did my due diligence searching for it locally.

what are you stats
how old are you
height weight bodyfat

 

[fucknatty]

what are you stats
how old are you
height weight bodyfat

22
178 cm / 76 kg / 20% bf

 

[Finalkiosk]

22
178 cm / 76 kg / 20% bf

bro just hop on test

i thought you were 15 or something

go buy yourself 10 vials of test e for like $125, pin 50mg a day, take your 50mg anavar daily, youl be fine

 

[fucknatty]

bro just hop on test

i thought you were 15 or something

go buy yourself 10 vials of test e for like $125, pin 50mg a day, take your 50mg anavar daily, youl be fine

y not test cypionate

 

[Finalkiosk]

y not test cypionate

more ester weight and it kicks in slower so youl be more likely to up the dose before its even at stable serum levels

 

[fucknatty]

more ester weight and it kicks in slower so youl be more likely to up the dose before its even at stable serum levels

pinning daily fucking sucks though, might not get on gear anyways. the fight club physique doesn't really need gear. i just want to speed shit up.

 

[Finalkiosk]

pinning daily fucking sucks though, might not get on gear anyways. the fight club physique doesn't really need gear. i just want to speed shit up.

if you want to not train and eat like shit

gear makes fight club physique 3-4x easier to maintain

you can starve and keep the majority of your muscle, and barely train too

 

[fucknatty]

if you want to not train and eat like shit

gear makes fight club physique 3-4x easier to maintain

you can starve and keep the majority of your muscle, and barely train too

im not gonna fucking sit at 6% bf though 10% is enough and probably maintainable.

 

[Finalkiosk]

im not gonna fucking sit at 6% bf though 10% is enough and probably maintainable.

you need a dialed in diet and training routine to maintain 10% bf and look half decent

alot of people dont even have the muscle in the first place, they end up looking skinnier and fatter than brad pitt in fight club while weighing less than him

 

[fucknatty]

you need a dialed in diet and training routine to maintain 10% bf and look half decent

alot of people dont even have the muscle in the first place, they end up looking skinnier and fatter than brad pitt in fight club while weighing less than him

yeah hence why im building muscle on a cut anyways. very possible since im still a noob at the gym.

 

[fucknatty]

i already built some muscle btw i used to be 75 kg and 23% bf just ate at maintenance 150g of protein and lifted bf dropped 3%