[PICTURE] Will I ever get a FRIEND/GIRLFRIEND ?

[BlackPillBRUTAL]

I am 16 and I found myself very ugly, I want to die

 

[BlackPillBRUTAL]

?

 

[Deleted member 14323]

country?

 

[BlackPillBRUTAL]

country?

France

 

[Deleted member 14323]

France

@FromNormietoChad will be your friend, he's french

 

[ChristianChad]

You're LTN.

 

[BlackPillBRUTAL]

You're LTN.

LTN ? what does it mean ? Its over for me?

Edit : I understood I am algerian

 

[ChristianChad]

LTN ? what does it mean ? Its over for me?

Edit : I understood I am algerian

Low tier normie

 

[Basedprincess]

We're all your friends on .me

 

[BlackPillBRUTAL]

Holyshit its really over for me ?

 

[Deleted member 7509]

Holyshit its really over for me ?

im sorry...

 

[Deleted member 3828]

Holyshit its really over for me ?

Up your grindset

 

[germanlooks]

Only with this haircut

 

[Deleted member 11604]

France

c'est fini pour toi mon ami. Si tu ne veux pas baiser des escortes pour toujours,
Le suicide est la seule solution

.

 

[khvirgin]

I've seen worse guys with gfs at the mall, just have low standards and be NT

 

[randomuser2407]

Low tier normie

I agree

Honestly, when you have a normie face (low tier, normal or high tier, doesn't matter), the best looksmax you can do is gymmaxxing, leanmaxxing and neckmaxxing, then you put on some clothes that fit well and you're automatically above average.

Most Chads nowadays only have a nice physique with an average face and they're not necessarily tall, I have seen short Chads.

 

[randomuser2407]

@gamma

Ask @fogdart

He has an average face, he is only around 5 foot 11, he doesn't put his height on Tinder and gets laid easily on there with women who are very attractive. He does this by showing off his physique in simple bathroom selfies and by showing off his penis size by using a short 3 second video where he has an erection that shows through his boxers.

That's basically all you need to do well on Tinder. Just be muscular and ripped, with an average face and sex appeal (by showing you want sex in your pics). That's how guys get laid on Tinder.

And, I even know a guy who can hookup with lots of attractive women on Tinder easily even though he has a very average face and he doesn't have any muscle mass. He does this by showing sex appeal and charisma in his pics by dressing well and showing confidence.

That technique doesn't work if you're below average in looks though. Most normies just lack style which is why they lack sex appeal, it's not because women only want Chad. Because Chad is less than 1% of Tinder users and most Chads on there are catfish profiles, so most women on Tinder hookup with men who are just above average (those who are muscular mainly and some guys who manage to look cool without muscles).

 

[gamma]

@gamma

Ask @fogdart

He has an average face, he is only around 5 foot 11, he doesn't put his height on Tinder and gets laid easily on there with women who are very attractive. He does this by showing off his physique in simple bathroom selfies and by showing off his penis size by using a short 3 second video where he has an erection that shows through his boxers.

That's basically all you need to do well on Tinder. Just be muscular and ripped, with an average face and sex appeal (by showing you want sex in your pics). That's how guys get laid on Tinder.

And, I even know a guy who can hookup with lots of attractive women on Tinder easily even though he has a very average face and he doesn't have any muscle mass. He does this by showing sex appeal and charisma in his pics by dressing well and showing confidence.

That technique doesn't work if you're below average in looks though. Most normies just lack style which is why they lack sex appeal, it's not because women only want Chad. Because Chad is less than 1% of Tinder users and most Chads on there are catfish profiles, so most women on Tinder hookup with men who are just above average (those who are muscular mainly and some guys who manage to look cool without muscles).

Who's this @fogdart and where he lives?
Have you seen him?

 

[Deleted member 7725]

You need double jaw surgery and implants. I don't think you can get a girlfriend or friends that respect you until you get that.

 

[materialistic]

I am 16 and I found myself very ugly, I want to die

Mogs me, and still I'm going out with a girl tonight.

 

[JawGuyFatFaceGuy]

I am 16 and I found myself very ugly, I want to die

Stfu fagget

 

[materialistic]

By friend you mean a female friend, or male too? Because male friendship have nothing to do with looks at all.

 

[Cidre enjoyer]

LTN ? what does it mean ? Its over for me?

Edit : I understood I am algerian

vas au bled et maries ta cousine alors
c'est introllable comme technique
c'est pas obligé d'etre ta cousine après mais demandes un mariage arrangé a tes darons
et te faire des amis c'est pas si dur au lycée

 

[eduardkoopman]

You look perfectly average. Assuming you have decent height.

Will I ever get a FRIEND/GIRLFRIEND ?​

if you can never got it, with effort. Than the other 50 % of men that are also normies or below, are fucked as well.

Sad feature of being a normie age in teens.
You have to be high effort, proactove, to get some.

 

[SixCRY]

gros t'es en France les critere sont bas t'as une bonne tête de maghrebin dnc stop le cope . go muscu

Il y a des maghrebin 20x plus moche que toi qui pecho

 

[eduardkoopman]

You need double jaw surgery and implants.

dude is 16.

so, due to age.
bones may still grow. and lets hope so.

For that reason, iw ould not advice plastic surgery at such a young age.

I don't think you can get a girlfriend or friends that respect you until you get that.

Brutals.
true, about respect DUE TO ADMIRATION.

Never forget thoogh.
There also exists respect, DUE TO FEAR.

And respect = respect.

A masculine, strong man. even if ugly/normie/etc. commands respect.

 

[mewcoper]

looks good except lower third tbh

 

[Deleted member 11604]

gros t'es en France les critere sont bas t'as une bonne tête de maghrebin dnc stop le cope . go muscu

Il y a des maghrebin 20x plus moche que toi qui pecho

en vrai de vrai au lycee, c'est assez facile de pecho, si t'es NT et que tu traines avec les kairas, les meufs tombent pour toi.
Surtout les rebeus. Elles envoies des nudes non demandés et tous

 

[SixCRY]

en vrai de vrai au lycee, c'est assez facile de pecho, si t'es NT et que tu traines avec les kairas, les meufs tombent pour toi.
Surtout les rebeus. Elles envoies des nudes non demandés et tous

Au delà de ça , il a pas une mauvaise tete d'arabe, il y a des meufs qui le trouveraient mignons mais oué faut qu'il soit NT sinon si t'es timide tu parles à sonper c un peu plus chaud

 

[eduardkoopman]

vas au bled et maries ta cousine alors
c'est introllable comme technique
c'est pas obligé d'etre ta cousine après mais demandes un mariage arrangé a tes darons
et te faire des amis c'est pas si dur au lycée

en vrai de vrai au lycee, c'est assez facile de pecho, si t'es NT et que tu traines avec les kairas, les meufs tombent pour toi.
Surtout les rebeus. Elles envoies des nudes non demandés et tous

Au delà de ça , il a pas une mauvaise tete d'arabe, il y a des meufs qui le trouveraient mignons mais oué faut qu'il soit NT sinon si t'es timide tu parles à sonper c un peu plus chaud

bonjour.
Je ne parle pas francais. J'ai eu 5 ans de francaise à l'ecolé; mais je ne compresss pas 99%. Cést une lange difficille.
Mais, je connais les lyrics de Alizée.

Allee Alizee

 

[Cidre enjoyer]

bonjour.
Je ne parle pas francais. J'ai eu 5 ans de francaise à l'ecolé; mais je ne compresss pas 99%. Cést une lange difficille.
Mais, je connais les lyrics de Alizée.

Allee Alizee

Alizée most beautiful women Ive ever seen

 

[eduardkoopman]

Alizée most beautiful women Ive ever seen

A quelle moment, elle etait Stylemaxxed dans elle prime. Elle est a mon top 5, je pense.
Bien skinmmaxzed aussi, parfait skin.

 

[Cidre enjoyer]

A quelle moment, elle etait Stylemaxxed dans elle prime. Elle est a mon top 5, je pense.
Bien skinmmaxzed aussi, parfait skin.

elle était très belle vers 20 ans
elle a vieilli après

 

[eduardkoopman]

elle était très belle vers 20 ans
elle a vieilli après

gras, principalement. je pense

 

[Lars]

you can be my friend

 

[Deleted member 13588]

You look good, bro. Good face and good hair. Nice skin teint. Don't let those losers here bash you. You are at least average, maybe even slightly above!

How tall are you?

 

[fogdart]

Who's this @fogdart and where he lives?
Have you seen him?

I live in canada - he thinks my face is average but others think it is above average (5psl), but not Tyrone tier. This is what he is talking about anyways with the Tinder

 

[gamma]

I live in canada - he thinks my face is average but others think it is above average (5psl), but not Tyrone tier. This is what he is talking about anyways with the Tinder

Oh I see you're running a sort of "big dick game"
What's your size so

 

[fogdart]

Oh I see you're running a sort of "big dick game"
What's your size so

7.5 x 5x5. nothing extra. Tbh I run the bulge experiment for a few days and deleted it. I use my regular profile to get women without the bugle pic - I don't want to get banned. I got reported a few times.

 

[paranakee]

I am 16 and I found myself very ugly, I want to die

average
go looksmax

 

[randomuser2407]

Who's this @fogdart and where he lives?
Have you seen him?

I have some pictures of him which show his face and body from the front and back, shirtless, but not naked, obviously.

The thing is that what he told me makes sense because the main characteristic that women look for in men isn't looks, it's masculinity.
Women want men who look and act in a masculine manner. So, what do they define as masculine exactly?

Being older but not too old compared to them (5-15) years difference seems to be the sweet spot for most women
Having a jaw that isn't recessed
Being muscular
Being tall
Having a thick neck (Minimum 18 inches)
Being ripped (having six pack abs)
Having a beard (if it works with your face and if you can grow one)
Dressing in a masculine way with clothes that fit well enough to show off your muscles
Approaching them out of the blue and talking to them in a confident manner while being direct enough to try to get their phone number


From my own experiences, I have seen that for 2 men of the same PSL, the muscular man tends to mog the skinny man even if the skinny man is noticeably taller. And, most women care more about your level of muscle mass than your body fat percentage as long as you don't look fat. So, a man with 30 lbs of muscle who is at 15-20% body fat is going to be more attractive to most women than a man with 10 lbs of muscle who is at 8-10% body fat, as long as their other physical attributes are similar. For some women, even a muscular man who is above 20% body fat is still more attractive than a lean skinny guy.

But, no matter how good your physical attributes are, women will only respect you if you can confidently show them that you like them and want to date them. You don't have to be "NT" but you cannot be so afraid of rejection that you don't make a move. Acting friendly towards women who are physically attracted to you will either make her lose interest in you or it can get you friendzoned.
Also, there are many women who will respond positively if you approach and talk to them even if they didn't expect it to happen. That especially happens when you do that with a woman who is at a lower looks level than you, and you do it in a confident direct manner.
Lots of guys confuse confidence for neurotypical when in reality, it just means that you're not afraid to tell a woman that you like her and want to go on a date with her and you're not afraid to lead the rest of the way to get laid. Fear of rejection and low self worth are the main reasons why guys aren't confident around women, that is usually solved by approaching women that you view as below you, or you can just force yourself to be direct with women that you consider to be out of your league.

Also, when guys here say that after 30, they will be oldcels, they have no idea what they're talking about because most women want men who are older, not men who are younger. So, it's easier to date an 18 year old woman at 25 than doing when you're 18, because for women, men who are a bit older look more mature and more masculine. Also, although looks is important, it isn't the only important attribute to attract women. Guys who focus only on looks and neglect everything else risk becoming oldcels, not because they lack looks, but because that is all they ever had and it's simply not enough past a certain age.

The manosphere idea "Women age like milk, while men age like wine" is true but only applies to men who work on themselves by improving their looks, improving their income, by learning useful new skills, and by travelling the world to develop a more interesting personality.

 

[coolguy1]

Most Chads nowadays only have a nice physique with an average face and they're not necessarily tall, I have seen short Chads.

Wtf are u on about bro? Chad with average face? Short chad?

 

[randomuser2407]

Wtf are u on about bro? Chad with average face? Short chad?

Yeah, there was this one guy in my french class in pre university who was 5 foot 6 and had an average looking black girlfriend but there were around 3 or 4 women around him in class that he was flirting with and they loved him and wanted to be with him. I know that most of the time, those guys are in the friendzone but for that one guy, he clearly wasn't. He told me that he wasn't always this way and only became comfortable around women after his parents forced him to do public speaking classes at the age of 16, he had been doing that for 2 years so he wasn't shy at all.

The guy that I am talking about was muscular but short but had such high self confidence that he could attract some of the hottest women in the class. Meanwhile, there was this one woman in that same class who was checking me out but not interested in him. So, from my own experiences, I am convinced that succeeding with women is a simple matter of game and self confidence IF she finds you physically attractive already. In other words, being good looking only gets you your foot in the door, you still need to be confident and you need to have game (know how to flirt with women to get laid). Also, lots of women don't specifically search for taller guys, only a small number of women are focused on very tall guys (6 foot 2 or taller), most women just want a guy who is taller than her, even if it is just by a few inches.

Women seem to care more about our game and self confidence than our height or looks. In other words, a man doesn't need to be a 10/10 in looks, he just need to pass her looks threshold by being above average in some aspects (like height or physique) and as long as he has game and he is confident enough to use it, he will get laid.»

So, the reason why I am still a kissless virgin at 23 is because I don't have game. I used to lack confidence but I don't anymore, the jaw surgery helped me a lot, but because I don't have game, I am restricted to my very small social circles and Online Dating. Online Dating isn't terrible but it only works for men who are muscular and who have a very specific type of face, but gymmaxxing can benefit all men who use game in real life, which is why I am still building muscle.

I know that in the black pill community, a lot of guys hate on PUAs and game in general because they saw a few examples of ugly guys who tried game and failed miserably even after over 1000 attempts, but that is mainly because you have to be at a certain level of looks to succeed with game and you need to be confident, and you cannot gain that confidence from women's approval, it has to come from yourself. Most men who lack self confidence are like that because of a deep seated insecurity, either in their looks, their financial situation, or their mental health. Once you fix all your main insecurities, you become confident enough to succeed with women and at that point, if you still can't get laid, then you need to work on your looks by acquiring a muscular ripped physique, but most men who are tall can succeed even while being skinny with an average face, which is what I am.

 

[coolguy1]

Yeah, there was this one guy in my french class in pre university who was 5 foot 6 and had an average looking black girlfriend but there were around 3 or 4 women around him in class that he was flirting with and they loved him and wanted to be with him. I know that most of the time, those guys are in the friendzone but for that one guy, he clearly wasn't. He told me that he wasn't always this way and only became comfortable around women after his parents forced him to do public speaking classes at the age of 16, he had been doing that for 2 years so he wasn't shy at all.

The guy that I am talking about was muscular but short but had such high self confidence that he could attract some of the hottest women in the class. Meanwhile, there was this one woman in that same class who was checking me out but not interested in him. So, from my own experiences, I am convinced that succeeding with women is a simple matter of game and self confidence IF she finds you physically attractive already. In other words, being good looking only gets you your foot in the door, you still need to be confident and you need to have game (know how to flirt with women to get laid). Also, lots of women don't specifically search for taller guys, only a small number of women are focused on very tall guys (6 foot 2 or taller), most women just want a guy who is taller than her, even if it is just by a few inches.

Women seem to care more about our game and self confidence than our height or looks. In other words, a man doesn't need to be a 10/10 in looks, he just need to pass her looks threshold by being above average in some aspects (like height or physique) and as long as he has game and he is confident enough to use it, he will get laid.»

So, the reason why I am still a kissless virgin at 23 is because I don't have game. I used to lack confidence but I don't anymore, the jaw surgery helped me a lot, but because I don't have game, I am restricted to my very small social circles and Online Dating. Online Dating isn't terrible but it only works for men who are muscular and who have a very specific type of face, but gymmaxxing can benefit all men who use game in real life, which is why I am still building muscle.

I know that in the black pill community, a lot of guys hate on PUAs and game in general because they saw a few examples of ugly guys who tried game and failed miserably even after over 1000 attempts, but that is mainly because you have to be at a certain level of looks to succeed with game and you need to be confident, and you cannot gain that confidence from women's approval, it has to come from yourself. Most men who lack self confidence are like that because of a deep seated insecurity, either in their looks, their financial situation, or their mental health. Once you fix all your main insecurities, you become confident enough to succeed with women and at that point, if you still can't get laid, then you need to work on your looks by acquiring a muscular ripped physique, but most men who are tall can succeed even while being skinny with an average face, which is what I am.

dnrd and short chad doesn't exist neither does chad with average face

 

[randomuser2407]

dnrd and short chad doesn't exist neither does chad with average face

The idea of Chad itself doesn't exist. That is the reality of thing, if you're not willing to accept this, then you're going to spend your entire life with a delusional limited nihilistic mindset that will prevent you from achieving your goals.

The thing is that most men start at the bottom and have to work very hard to reach higher levels of SMV (Sexual Market Value), while most women start at the top and plummet towards the bottom as they age. Sure, some women get prettier with age, and some men get uglier but those are exceptions, not the norm. Most men who are average remain that way because they never work on themselves.

The thing is that women's only way to attract men is with good looks but men can attract women with various different things so we are not judged solely based on our looks but many other characteristics, so, the men who work on every single aspect that matters are the ones, who, in 5-10 years, will be at the top in SMV. While the nihilistic black pillers who didn't bother to do anything, who decided that it was over for them before it even began, their SMV will only plummet over time because they will lose their looks and everything else won't be worked on. And even those on this forum who focus only on looks will see themselves plummet to the bottom SMV when their looks fade away in their late 30s or early 40s.

The truth is that I have seen men who had a worse starting point who ended up with a higher SMV simply because they worked on themselves by studying hard in college, by gaining 20-30 lbs of muscle and leaning down, by developing their social skills and game, and by working on becoming more successful with women through actions, not theories or words on the internet, but real actions.

Also, when I say that Chad doesn't exist, I mean that even the guys that are worshipped on here (O Pry, David Gandy, Lachowski, Pitt) would not be extremely successful with women based on their looks alone. What makes them attractive is that they are rich, famous and they have good looks to go along with that money and status, that's what makes them stand out, but even then, they are not universally attractive, because every woman has a different ideal type of man, they aren't all the same.

 

[WontStopNorwooding]

The idea of Chad itself doesn't exist. That is the reality of thing, if you're not willing to accept this, then you're going to spend your entire life with a delusional limited nihilistic mindset that will prevent you from achieving your goals.

The thing is that most men start at the bottom and have to work very hard to reach higher levels of SMV (Sexual Market Value), while most women start at the top and plummet towards the bottom as they age. Sure, some women get prettier with age, and some men get uglier but those are exceptions, not the norm. Most men who are average remain that way because they never work on themselves.

The thing is that women's only way to attract men is with good looks but men can attract women with various different things so we are not judged solely based on our looks but many other characteristics, so, the men who work on every single aspect that matters are the ones, who, in 5-10 years, will be at the top in SMV. While the nihilistic black pillers who didn't bother to do anything, who decided that it was over for them before it even began, their SMV will only plummet over time because they will lose their looks and everything else won't be worked on. And even those on this forum who focus only on looks will see themselves plummet to the bottom SMV when their looks fade away in their late 30s or early 40s.

The truth is that I have seen men who had a worse starting point who ended up with a higher SMV simply because they worked on themselves by studying hard in college, by gaining 20-30 lbs of muscle and leaning down, by developing their social skills and game, and by working on becoming more successful with women through actions, not theories or words on the internet, but real actions.

Also, when I say that Chad doesn't exist, I mean that even the guys that are worshipped on here (O Pry, David Gandy, Lachowski, Pitt) would not be extremely successful with women based on their looks alone. What makes them attractive is that they are rich, famous and they have good looks to go along with that money and status, that's what makes them stand out, but even then, they are not universally attractive, because every woman has a different ideal type of man, they aren't all the same.

Come on bro no one's reading all that

 

[coolguy1]

The idea of Chad itself doesn't exist. That is the reality of thing, if you're not willing to accept this, then you're going to spend your entire life with a delusional limited nihilistic mindset that will prevent you from achieving your goals.

The thing is that most men start at the bottom and have to work very hard to reach higher levels of SMV (Sexual Market Value), while most women start at the top and plummet towards the bottom as they age. Sure, some women get prettier with age, and some men get uglier but those are exceptions, not the norm. Most men who are average remain that way because they never work on themselves.

The thing is that women's only way to attract men is with good looks but men can attract women with various different things so we are not judged solely based on our looks but many other characteristics, so, the men who work on every single aspect that matters are the ones, who, in 5-10 years, will be at the top in SMV. While the nihilistic black pillers who didn't bother to do anything, who decided that it was over for them before it even began, their SMV will only plummet over time because they will lose their looks and everything else won't be worked on. And even those on this forum who focus only on looks will see themselves plummet to the bottom SMV when their looks fade away in their late 30s or early 40s.

The truth is that I have seen men who had a worse starting point who ended up with a higher SMV simply because they worked on themselves by studying hard in college, by gaining 20-30 lbs of muscle and leaning down, by developing their social skills and game, and by working on becoming more successful with women through actions, not theories or words on the internet, but real actions.

Also, when I say that Chad doesn't exist, I mean that even the guys that are worshipped on here (O Pry, David Gandy, Lachowski, Pitt) would not be extremely successful with women based on their looks alone. What makes them attractive is that they are rich, famous and they have good looks to go along with that money and status, that's what makes them stand out, but even then, they are not universally attractive, because every woman has a different ideal type of man, they aren't all the same.

keep writing essays for me, nobody is going to read that shit

 

[randomuser2407]

Come on bro no one's reading all that

The only reason why I write a lot on certain subjects is because I am debunking stupid arguments that are so commonly used on here that I can just copy paste my post over and over to get my point across, so I don't have to write another comment on this subject again, unless someone makes a good counter argument, which tends to never happen, because most people here are brainlets.

 

[coolguy1]

The only reason why I write a lot on certain subjects is because I am debunking stupid arguments that are so commonly used on here that I can just copy paste my post over and over to get my point across, so I don't have to write another comment on this subject again, unless someone makes a good counter argument, which tends to never happen, because most people here are brainlets.

dnrd