[PICTURES] 26 years old virgin

[Deleted member 6577]

I am from Belgium.
I am very disappointed.
I am a kind and nice guy that just want love and affection with a charming girlfriend.
I dont want to become a pussy slayer or anything like this, this is not my mental.
But i dont have any confidence anymore.
Here are my old 2015 photos, i dont have any other pictures since.
During these years i already do a orthodontic treatment with a mandibular osteotomia.
But i think my chin stays the problem, so i want maybe in the future complete this with a genoplastia.

What do u think ?

Concerning the mensurations :

1m80 92kg (not gym) and for the dick (yes not necessary) 17-18cm height 6cm width 16,5-17cm circumference

nice guys finish last

 

[Mrinfinityx]

If you were in america I would say you would do very well. Here you would be tall and above average. But in belgium you are probably just as good as a thousand other guys in your town/city. If you work out and get around 10% bodyfat with lots of muscles you might be able to get some casual sex. But to get a long term relationship with a woman that is good looking that wont cheat on you, you will probably need more.

Take some pictures from the side, I think that would be best to get a look at your jaw/chin.

I forgot i had this, same period.

 

[Mrinfinityx]

I think you have a recessed chin
Post a side profile

I forgot i had this, same period.

 

[EverythingMattersCel]

Truth. if you are passive. Not chatting up alot of women.
If you are very active in meeting and trying to get with women. Aka, effort maxxing. You will have to plow through plenty rejecetions, but you should be able to "luck out" 1 or 2 times out of 100. Still brutal, but being virgin feels likely more brutal.

How do you talk to a girl?

 

[Mrinfinityx]

nice guys finish last

True but unfair at same time.

 

[SkinjobCatastrophe]

I forgot i had this, same period.

Well you have some decent definition in your jaw and generally you look like you would be attractive to women. Lower bodyfat would really help you. Regardless of whether you want a long term girlfriend or just someone to fuck, your looks are what matters. I dont know about belgium but I assume the culture is similar to here in america. If that is the case then you should be able to approach women and ask for their number or ideally go to things like parties and other social gatherings. Just approach some women and see how they respond.

 

[Mrinfinityx]

How do you talk to a girl?

Honestly i lack of sexualisation and dont take too much risks but i try to be funny and light so they laugh at least.
I must be more direct and confident i think.

 

[EverythingMattersCel]

Honestly i lack of sexualisation and dont take too much risks but i try to be funny and light so they laugh at least.
I must be more direct and confident i think.

No, it was a question for koopman. How do we talk to girls?

 

[Mrinfinityx]

Well you have some decent definition in your jaw and generally you look like you would be attractive to women. Lower bodyfat would really help you. Regardless of whether you want a long term girlfriend or just someone to fuck, your looks are what matters. I dont know about belgium but I assume the culture is similar to here in america. If that is the case then you should be able to approach women and ask for their number or ideally go to things like parties and other social gatherings. Just approach some women and see how they respond.

Thx mate, u give me hope.

And I think watching too much model photos and instagram photos can give u trully a lack of confidence because ur brain see before assmiliating than the pics are photoshopped and worked. This is pure cancer for confidence. Here all my honest photos are so far away from these pics i look on internet.

 

[subhuman incel]

you look like a fucking normie

 

[randomuser2407]

You're not ugly. You look like a normie for your country. You can have some success IRL, but not on Tinder.

You should go out more during the day if you want to get a girlfriend. Try to look your best every day when you go outside. Then look around to see if some women check you out, and approach those who check you out. Spend more of your free time in malls, coffee shops, farmer's markets, parks and so on. Every weekend and holiday, wake up early and go hang out at those places, the more time you spend outside, the greater the chance of meeting someone.

My biggest mistake in the past 5 years is that I rarely ever went outside and I only did it when I had to so I would get intense eye contact from some women but because I went out so rarely, those opportunities were rare.

The internet is the reason why so many of us stay inside instead of going out and why we would rather waste time on our phone than to talk to new people. Of course don't go approach every woman you see, but definitely approach those who give you long eye contact. A woman will never give you eye contact unless she is interested (the only exception is if you're doing something weird that draws attention to yourself but if nobody is looking at you except for that woman, then it's a sign that she likes you).

After you approach the women who like you, just have a normal conversation (don't compliment her), then at the end, when you want to leave or she needs to leave, tell her you would like to see her again and get her number this way. Then you can follow this guide (just skip the first few parts about online dating, and start on part 3 "Messaging Girls"): https://killyourinnerloser.com/tinder-guide-3/

To looksmax, you should get a chin wing, and gymmax, leanmax, and get thicker eyebrows and grow out your beard just enough for a stubble. You look way better on the 3rd picture than the other two because of that beard.

 

[eduardkoopman]

How do you talk to a girl?

Make eye contact
Say hi.
If she says hi back in a decent positive way.
Than in short this

https://looksmax.org/threads/pictures-26-years-old-virgin.224337/page-2#post-3835440

 

[Mrinfinityx]

You're not ugly. You look like a normie for your country. You can have some success IRL, but not on Tinder.

You should go out more during the day if you want to get a girlfriend. Try to look your best every day when you go outside. Then look around to see if some women check you out, and approach those who check you out. Spend more of your free time in malls, coffee shops, farmer's markets, parks and so on. Every weekend and holiday, wake up early and go hang out at those places, the more time you spend outside, the greater the chance of meeting someone.

My biggest mistake in the past 5 years is that I rarely ever went outside and I only did it when I had to so I would get intense eye contact from some women but because I went out so rarely, those opportunities were rare.

The internet is the reason why so many of us stay inside instead of going out and why we would rather waste time on our phone than to talk to new people. Of course don't go approach every woman you see, but definitely approach those who give you long eye contact. A woman will never give you eye contact unless she is interested (the only exception is if you're doing something weird that draws attention to yourself but if nobody is looking at you except for that woman, then it's a sign that she likes you).

After you approach the women who like you, just have a normal conversation (don't compliment her), then at the end, when you want to leave or she needs to leave, tell her you would like to see her again and get her number this way. Then you can follow this guide (just skip the first few parts about online dating, and start on part 3 "Messaging Girls"): https://killyourinnerloser.com/tinder-guide-3/

To looksmax, you should get a chin wing, and gymmax, leanmax, and get thicker eyebrows and grow out your beard just enough for a stubble. You look way better on the 3rd picture than the other two because of that beard.

Very complete response, thx mate.

Yes i am fat and having no social proof or social life, this is the two major things that must be changed for improving my lifestyle in all aspects.

U give me objective hope, and this is a good gift.

 

[Deusmaximus]

The girls that find you attractive, will not be interested in you, because you are a shy low t niceguy. Your lookslevel is very common, which means you compete against a looot of guys. Why should a girl care about you, when she can replace you very easy/fast with a guy on the same lookslevel, that is also more dominant/modern/trendy/agressive?
If you are average, you are competing against a huge number of guys.
You are simply not special enough.

The really hot guys are not that common, and thats why girls do a lot more investment into them.

 

[randomuser2407]

Very complete response, thx mate.

Yes i am fat and having no social proof or social life, this is the two major things that must be changed for improving my lifestyle in all aspects.

U give me objective hope, and this is a good gift.

You can read my posts on the topic of fat loss and muscle gain for more high effort advice:

Lose weight in the most efficient (and easiest) way possible:

Calories and macros: https://looksmax.org/threads/how-to-lose-weight-asap-without-bs.211829/post-3625417
Best food choices to make weight loss easier: https://looksmax.org/threads/how-can-i-stop-eating-unhealthy-food.221029/post-3779901

Gain muscle:

Strength Standards, Programs, and General Advice:

https://looksmax.org/threads/is-the...ter-than-flat-this-months.219936/post-3763059

Best exercise tutorials: https://looksmax.org/threads/water-how-do-i-lower-my-bf.223007/post-3816002

 

[Mrinfinityx]

You can read my posts on the topic of fat loss and muscle gain for more high effort advice:

Lose weight in the most efficient (and easiest) way possible:

Calories and macros: https://looksmax.org/threads/how-to-lose-weight-asap-without-bs.211829/post-3625417
Best food choices to make weight loss easier: https://looksmax.org/threads/how-can-i-stop-eating-unhealthy-food.221029/post-3779901

Gain muscle:

Strength Standards, Programs, and General Advice:

https://looksmax.org/threads/is-the...ter-than-flat-this-months.219936/post-3763059

Best exercise tutorials: https://looksmax.org/threads/water-how-do-i-lower-my-bf.223007/post-3816002

All i need to begin my journey to a better future.
Thx mate.

 

[Deleted member 6217]

definetly not ugly bro idk how ur a virgin

 

[TITUS]

Right now you are obese at that weight. So start with all the softmaxes, sounds weird that you couldn't get laid cause you aren't that ugly, did you go to uni?

 

[Mrinfinityx]

Right now you are obese at that weight. So start with all the softmaxes, sounds weird that you couldn't get laid cause you aren't that ugly, did you go to uni?

Overweight not obese. My body is strange i look like relatively slim but i have 12 kg too much, maybe the fat is everywhere on my body (no beer abdominal issue).

Softmax yes.

Yes i goes there but very masculine formations and i didn't get out for parties if i remember.

 

[TITUS]

Post pictures of yourself today and your frame, to see what we are dealing with here. You could have rotted big time in 5 years, specially from 21 to 26.
92Kg at 180cm is 25-30% bodyfat probably.

 

[Mrinfinityx]

Post pictures of yourself today and your frame, to see what we are dealing with here. You could have rotted big time in 5 years, specially from 21 to 26.
92Kg at 180cm is 25-30% bodyfat probably.

I am gonna post in a few days when i would buy my new phone. I am gonna up this topic so. Maybe it will become a daily progress journal.

 

[Benjibanks]

PASSIVE, In my opinion.

You have been way to passive in hitting on chicks.

Numbers game = legit if you are in the ranges of above average and upwards.
I think you are, abvove average overall in looks.
You are like 60+ percentile. (out of 100 guys, you mogg 60, and 40 mogg you). (You could probabaly looksmaxx to Chadlite levels (80+ percentile).

As an litle above average dude. You need to take the first step in general. Only Chads gets away with being passive.

So 30 WOMEN.
Lets say you started getting interest in women since you are 18.

Thus, In 8 years time.
You tried to get with 30 women.
That's 4 women per year.
That's 1 woman every 3/4 months.
That's Passive. imo.

By the time I was 26. And I was worse looking than you (PSL 3.5 at best).
I tried getting with 200+ women for sure. Probably more like 300. And I only started interest in dating when I was like 22, before that I didn't care, because life and surroundings was a shit-show so to stressed out to worry about that.

This is interesting to me because I’ve been rated and figure myself to be like 50th percentile but have had girls interested and going out of the way to speak to me at my work quite a bit.

 

[Mrinfinityx]

This is interesting to me because I’ve been rated and figure myself to be like 50th percentile but have had girls interested and going out of the way to speak to me at my work quite a bit.

Damn u give me hope my man.

 

[Deleted member 4797]

Your dick is 17cm girth, WTF?

Go become a pornstar dude.

Also, its because you are nice with women that you dont get any pussy or girlfriend, not looks. Change your mindset.

 

[Mrinfinityx]

Your dick is 17cm girth, WTF?

Go become a pornstar dude.

Also, its because you are nice with women that you dont get any pussy or girlfriend, not looks. Change your mindset.

Yeah i measured it with ruban and it is 16,5/17cm, i thinked it was normal.

I need to get confident, and the most important NOT GIVING ATTENTION TO THE JUDGMENT OF OTHERS ( that s the hardest part for a old shool bullied teenager for physical reason).

 

[Michael]

True but unfair at same time.

life is unfair
but goodluck mate

 

[Deleted member 4797]

Yeah i measured it with ruban and it is 16,5/17cm, i thinked it was normal.

I need to get confident, and the most important NOT GIVING ATTENTION TO THE JUDGMENT OF OTHERS ( that s the hardest part for a old shool bullied teenager for physical reason).

Read this thread and pay attention to my posts. Everything I said in that thread. is true and applies directly to your situation.

https://looksmax.org/threads/dont-be-nice-to-women.202754/

After reading that thread, watch this 2 videos

This one first

This one second

That should change your mentality, because its based on logic and will break down female nature and why you must dominate it and how easy it actually is to do. Please, really watch these 2 videos man, if you speak fluent English I guarantee it will change you for the better with all women. Its not PUA bullshit, its philosophy of women which helps you understand clearly who women are at the core, and when you understand it deeply, everything they do makes sense and it will all come natural to you how to act around them (instead of rehearsed lines bullshit like PUA).

 

[ang3l]

Go become a pornstar dude.

 

[Mr_Norwood]

You would slay in Asia

 

[Mr_Norwood]

Seriously get a decent camera get someone to take photos of you in restaurants and bars and you'd get tinder matches for certain

 

[Deleted member 2632]

Its your jawline

A weak jawline scares women away like a shovel scares jews away

 

[Mrinfinityx]

Its your jawline

A weak jawline scares women away like a shovel scares jews away

View attachment 740491

I already get mandibular osteotomia and orthodontic correction (same treatment for the 2), i just need chin here.

These pictures are before all this stuff and before aging.

What do u think ?

 

[Deleted member 2632]

I already get mandibular osteotomia and orthodontic correction (same treatment for the 2), i just need chin here.

This picture is before all this stuff and same period than others.

What do u think ?

You have bad ( cuck ) facial hair you need to shave

Take a picture from the front of your face, ideally you want a V-Shape chin to jawline seperation like mine seen here

 

[Mrinfinityx]

You have bad ( cuck ) facial hair you need to shave

Take a picture from the front of your face, ideally you want a V-Shape chin to jawline seperation like mine seen here


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Ah yes i forgot to precise that the facial hair are greatly improved since.

Nice shape btw.

 

[eduardkoopman]

Read this thread and pay attention to my posts. Everything I said in that thread. is true and applies directly to your situation.

https://looksmax.org/threads/dont-be-nice-to-women.202754/

After reading that thread, watch this 2 videos

This one first

This one second

That should change your mentality, because its based on logic and will break down female nature and why you must dominate it and how easy it actually is to do. Please, really watch these 2 videos man, if you speak fluent English I guarantee it will change you for the better with all women. Its not PUA bullshit, its philosophy of women which helps you understand clearly who women are at the core, and when you understand it deeply, everything they do makes sense and it will all come natural to you how to act around them (instead of rehearsed lines bullshit like PUA).

Big Patrice O'Neal fan. He was next level. His mindset and games, were beyond any regular dude. Stuff like killing your ego, and acting and being happy if a woman cheats, and be happy when she says that. And tell her you happy about it, because now you can and will cheat also and have women on the side again. But keep her around, because she feels bad so he wouldn't wanna waste that because after a woman cheated and feels bad aboutit. She is usually at her best for the next weeks to compensate. Patrice is right about that.

Practical Master , because he let make ego get out of the way.

The interview with Dr. Dzork is his best one.

Sad he had to die so soon.

 

[Deleted member 4797]

I already get mandibular osteotomia and orthodontic correction (same treatment for the 2), i just need chin here.

These pictures are before all this stuff and before aging.

What do u think ?

Wow thats extremely natural looking, I couldn't even tell you had any surgeries done.

What did you get Lefort 1 and BSSO? Any CCW rotation?

 

[Mrinfinityx]

Wow thats extremely natural looking, I couldn't even tell you had any surgeries done.

What did you get Lefort 1 and BSSO? Any CCW rotation?

No no these photos are BEFORE any treatment.

I will post recent photos here in few days when i will have decent digital camera phone.

I got this btw :

Ostéotomie sagittale mandibulaire bilatérale — Wikipédia

fr.wikipedia.org

 

[eduardkoopman]

Big Patrice O'Neal fan.
The interview with Dr. Dzork is his best one.

that woman wrote a pick up book for dudes.

This is the interview with Patrice. Gold.

 

[Deleted member 4797]

No no these photos are BEFORE any treatment.

I will post recent photos here in few days when i will have decent digital camera phone.

I got this btw :

Ostéotomie sagittale mandibulaire bilatérale — Wikipédia

fr.wikipedia.org

Right so you move your lower jaw forward. Did you have an underbite so that you needed it?

If you didn't, then you would also have had a Leftort 1

 

[Bewusst]

Not ugly at all, just shave, tan and lose fat. Mogs me in every way possible

 

[MewingJBP]

fakecel go talk to women

 

[Mrinfinityx]

Right so you move your lower jaw forward. Did you have an underbite so that you needed it?

If you didn't, then you would also have had a Leftort 1

In fact i had a soft anterior open bite who could not be fixed by only orthodontic methods.

So they advanced my mandible and rotate it a bit for having ideal dental occlusion.

But just this operation without genioplastia changed so many things in my face shape. My face is now rectangular shape and no more oval or long shape.

My maxillary was treated during childhood so the surgeon said to me that my maxillary was already fine.

Yes i had a first orthodontic treatment during childhood to teenage but there happend a recurrence after years (maybe because of a rest of growth potential occured).

 

[TITUS]

You have bad ( cuck ) facial hair you need to shave

Take a picture from the front of your face, ideally you want a V-Shape chin to jawline seperation like mine seen here


View attachment 740501

What a chad.

 

[eduardkoopman]

 

[eduardkoopman]

No, it was a question for koopman. How do we talk to girls?

This is a good example case. On how to soical in daily life. Indirectly starting a convo with women. And then having a great finish.

 

[Yoyo2233]

I am from Belgium.
I am very disappointed.
I am a kind and nice guy that just want love and affection with a charming girlfriend.
I dont want to become a pussy slayer or anything like this, this is not my mental.
But i dont have any confidence anymore.
Here are my old 2015 photos, i dont have any other pictures since.
During these years i already do a orthodontic treatment with a mandibular osteotomia.
But i think my chin stays the problem, so i want maybe in the future complete this with a genoplastia.

What do u think ?

Concerning the mensurations :

1m80 92kg (not gym) and for the dick (yes not necessary) 17-18cm height 6cm width 16,5-17cm circumference

Loose fat, change hair style. Get an edge to you you look to nice

 

[Deleted member 4797]

In fact i had a soft anterior open bite who could not be fixed by only orthodontic methods.

So they advanced my mandible and rotate it a bit for having ideal dental occlusion.

But just this operation without genioplastia changed so many things in my face shape. My face is now rectangular shape and no more oval or long shape.

My maxillary was treated during childhood so the surgeon said to me that my maxillary was already fine.

Yes i had a first orthodontic treatment during childhood to teenage but there happend a recurrence after years (maybe because of a rest of growth potential occured).

Did you watch those vids I posted?

 

[Mrinfinityx]

Did you watch those vids I posted?

Yes a part, i gonna watch the rest later.

Thx, very helpful !

 

[Deleted member 756]

fakecel go talk to women

 

[000]

I am from Belgium.
I am very disappointed.
I am a kind and nice guy that just want love and affection with a charming girlfriend.
I dont want to become a pussy slayer or anything like this, this is not my mental.
But i dont have any confidence anymore.
Here are my old 2015 photos, i dont have any other pictures since.
During these years i already do a orthodontic treatment with a mandibular osteotomia.
But i think my chin stays the problem, so i want maybe in the future complete this with a genoplastia.

What do u think ?

Concerning the mensurations :

1m80 92kg (not gym) and for the dick (yes not necessary) 17-18cm height 6cm width 16,5-17cm circumference

You don’t look like a virgin