Pls. help .After Using Reta what do i do?

[Mandibular0]

I was at 90 kg im now at 67kg and im still not 12% (current like 16/17%)
6ft/183cm
im very tired went on almost a year deficit and barely ate last few months.
can i build muscle on like slightly below maintanace? Or do i have to go on maintanace?
Should i add test?

i cant turn into a chud again

 

[GB18]

First of all, how tall are you ?

 

[Mandibular0]

First of all, how tall are you ?

183cm

 

[GB18]

Cool, that was a pretty significant weight loss for you. I guess you can protect and mantain your muscle mass, but building muscle while staying on a deficit is pretty hard unless if you are using any type of gear. you are young, dont waste your health with gear just yet, wait at least when you are 30+. Just increase your protein, increase your Reta dosage and lift as heavy as you can, that should be it.

 

[Mandibular0]

Cool, that was a pretty significant weight loss for you. I guess you can protect and mantain your muscle mass, but building muscle while staying on a deficit is pretty hard unless if you are using any type of gear. you are young, dont waste your health with gear just yet, wait at least when you are 30+. Just increase your protein, increase your Reta dosage and lift as heavy as you can, that should be it.

how many cals do i go on?
i was lifting before but i am extremely low energy (maybe bc of reta) and stopped lifting and also need energy for uni

 

[GB18]

What is your goal ? staying lean, lose more weight or gain muscle ? I usually use the TDEE calculator to see how many calories I need for each goal. A guy your size probalby should eat 2300 - 2400 calories per day I would guess. The low energy is from your deficit for sure, and Reta makes you stay on a even bigger deficit as it increases your metabollic rate, and as a consequence you will burn more calories. Caffeine could be a way to trick your body to not stay tired. I felt the same way as you with Reta. Spam caffeine ( coffee, pre workouts etc ). Increase your protein with lean meats with lower calories like fish, chicken, because you can eat more protein without eating too much calories. You can also increase your carbs a bit for quick energy, but if the goal is to stay lean, be care to not over eat them. Caffeine, 4 -5 litres of water per day, high protein and a bit of carbs every day and you should stay fine.

 

[GB18]

how many calories are you eating per day ? share your macros with me if possible.

 

[Mandibular0]

how many calories are you eating per day ? share your macros with me if possible.

~1800 last month but before i didnt track probably less.
I would like to go to 12% and then lean bulk but idk if its possible since i feel so shitty rn

 

[GB18]

Got it. Its mostly mental, 1800 is very low and hard to follow but that is the only way to get lean

 

[GB18]

As I said before, Caffeine could be your biggest aly now, and also sugar free gum, they trick your mind for quick energy, spam them as much as possible, that is what I do and it works for me.

 

[GB18]

I am 1.89 cm tall and 93 kg, doing a 1750 diet right now + Reta, its tough but not impossible, low energy sucks and I know that.

 

[Mandibular0]

As I said before, Caffeine could be your biggest aly now, and also sugar free gum, they trick your mind for quick energy, spam them as much as possible, that is what I do and it works for me.

i abuse caffeine i am addicted and modafinil
im not hungry at all tbh but i lay in bed and dont like doing things i used to love

 

[Mandibular0]

i honestly dont know what to do

 

[GB18]

I understand 100% what you are going through right now. This feeling of not liking things you liked doing before is for sure the Reta effect, as it lowers your dopamine production. For me it was losing my passion for my football team which I as a fanatic lunatic before and when I was taking Reta for the first time I completely lost all my passion for it and didnt even want to attend games anymore. Social events, friends, relationship with family was very exhausting for me and I the only one thing I never stopped caring about was the gym. Try staying oof Reta a bit if things escalate more for you. I stopped using Reta when I noticed I was starting to become a numb and careless
person who only cared about diet, staying as lean as possible and attending the gym every single day without exception. If I would give you a suggestion I would say for not to let things get out of hand.

 

[Mandibular0]

I understand 100% what you are going through right now. This feeling of not liking things you liked doing before is for sure the Reta effect, as it lowers your dopamine production. For me it was losing my passion for my football team which I as a fanatic lunatic before and when I was taking Reta for the first time I completely lost all my passion for it and didnt even want to attend games anymore. Social events, friends, relationship with family was very exhausting for me and I the only one thing I never stopped caring about was the gym. Try staying oof Reta a bit if things escalate more for you. I stopped using Reta when I noticed I was starting to become a numb and careless
person who only cared about diet, staying as lean as possible and attending the gym every single day without exception. If I would give you a suggestion I would say for not to let things get out of hand.

its also the low calories i literally feel it in my limbs like theyre heavy af
so you say stop reta but ill get fat

 

[GB18]

This whole getting as lean as possible journey really get some people messed up mentally, you have to be wise and strong.

 

[GB18]

its also the low calories i literally feel it in my limbs like theyre heavy af
so you say stop reta but ill get fat

Its a tough choice, but quitting Reta wont make you fat, it will just make you crave food a bit more, and that is ok. Just follow your diet and it will be okay

 

[Mandibular0]

Its a tough choice, but quitting Reta wont make you fat, it will just make you crave food a bit more, and that is ok. Just follow your diet and it will be okay

i wont get leaner
maybe i go on maintanance for 4 weeks than cut aggressively

 

[GB18]

Where you a fat kid before ? I was 130 kg at just 16 years old and after years of not getting attention and finally getting lean and loving to see yourself in the mirror can really change your mind, this feeling of never wanting to get fat like before is normal, trust me.

 

[Mandibular0]

Where you a fat kid before ? I was 130 kg at just 16 years old and after years of not getting attention and finally getting lean and loving to see yourself in the mirror can really change your mind, this feeling of never wanting to get fat like before is normal, trust me.

yes i was also 130kg and cutted down to like 80kg naturally

then gained a bit and nuked my apprtite for a year with reta

 

[Mandibular0]

Where you a fat kid before ? I was 130 kg at just 16 years old and after years of not getting attention and finally getting lean and loving to see yourself in the mirror can really change your mind, this feeling of never wanting to get fat like before is normal, trust me.

so what do you suggest i do?

 

[GB18]

so what do

so what do you suggest i do?

Just follow your diet,

 

[GB18]

Just follow your diet, eat as clean as possible, try to the things that you liked doing before, dont let your mind catch up with you with negative shit and you will be just fine, there is no secret formula or any mandatory action for you to do. Surround yourself with positive things and you will be set. Increasing your calories for some days could benefit you a lot mentally, just keep relaxed, you are just fine.

 

[Mandibular0]

Just follow your diet, eat as clean as possible, try to the things that you liked doing before, dont let your mind catch up with you with negative shit and you will be just fine, there is no secret formula or any mandatory action for you to do. Surround yourself with positive things and you will be set. Increasing your calories for some days could benefit you a lot mentally, just keep relaxed, you are just fine.

dnp for one week to reach 12% and then lean bulk understood

 

[GB18]

You can always message me through here if you need, I am pretty active here daily.

 

[GB18]

dnp for one week to reach 12% and then lean bulk understood

Thats it, explore yourself, cut and lean bulk and keep alternating them until your are satisfied with what you see. Cut when you feel like it and lean bulk when your energy is crashed.