Practicing is cope

[CorinthianLOX]

You either have it or you don’t. It’s all genetics. No amount of practice will make you amount to anything. The people who ’practiced’ something and became good as a result had those innate qualities and genes to make them succeed in their endeavor in the first place.

 

[acm]

talent reigns supreme once again

 

[CorinthianLOX]

talent reigns supreme once again

Talentpill is brutal

 

[CorinthianLOX]

The proof that talent exists is one of the most blackpilling realisations ever.

 

[hypernormie]

Well yeah you can practice all you want but if you lack the underlying talent it's all a waste you will be capped at a very low level

 

[CorinthianLOX]

Well yeah you can practice all you want but if you lack the underlying talent it's all a waste you will be capped at a very low level

True

 

[Tenres]

I mean if you have 0 talent for anything then yeah

 

[callard]

 

[CorinthianLOX]

I mean if you have 0 talent for anything then yeah

Are there people with 0 talent?

 

[SilvioMoltisantiDan]

You either have it or you don’t. It’s all genetics. No amount of practice will make you amount to anything. The people who ’practiced’ something and became good as a result had those innate qualities and genes to make them succeed in their endeavor in the first place.

Guess you have to practice first to know bro...

 

[CorinthianLOX]

Guess you have to practice first to know bro...

’You can never know if you don’t practice’ I hate this sentence more than anything. I’ve known since the beginning of school that practicing doesn’t beat talent.

 

[SilvioMoltisantiDan]

if magnus carlsen didn't practice chess he will never find he have the talend to be 1 number one chess player in world

’You can never know if you don’t practice’ I hate this sentence more than anything. I’ve known since the beginning of school that practicing doesn’t beat talent.

 

[CorinthianLOX]

if magnus carlsen didn't practice chess he will never find he have the talend to be 1 number one chess player in world

For him practicing comes naturally because he has a talent for chess.

If he didn’t have a talent for chess he would have either

A. Never reach above 1500 elo

Or

B. Quit the game entirely because the process of practicing chess without being endowed with superior pattern recognition is like climing mount everest with a broken leg.

 

[SilvioMoltisantiDan]

For him practicing comes naturally because he has a talent for chess.

If he didn’t have a talent for chess he would have either

A. Never reach above 1500 elo

Or

B. Quit the game entirely because the process of practicing chess without being endowed with superior pattern recognition is like climing a mount everest with a broken leg.

Practice showed him he had talent. So you have two options: if you like it, try it and see if you have talent; if not, you'll never know.

 

[CorinthianLOX]

Practice showed him he had talent. So you have two options: if you like it, try it and see if you have talent; if not, you'll never know.

Yes obviously. But he wouldn’t have continued if he didn’t have talent.

 

[SilvioMoltisantiDan]

Yes obviously. But he wouldn’t have continued if he didn’t have talent.

well that's true, unfair world

 

[hypernormie]

if magnus carlsen didn't practice chess he will never find he have the talend to be 1 number one chess player in world

Magnus says himself he is not a fan of rigorous hard practice

Its the reason he refused Kasparov as a coach because Kasparov wanted him to engage in rote practice and Magnus just didn't enjoy forcing himself to learn stuff

Magnus is actually a prime example of raw talent that can't be practiced. His "practice" basically primarily just consisted of having the freedom to engage with the aspects of chess he was most interested in

 

[Saint Casanova]

This black and white thinking is very dumb tbh. There are some aspects that you can greatly improve with practice and others that you can’t.

For example, you can’t really practice to become a greater sprinter. That’s mostly set in stone.

You can however practice to become a great artist, orator, writer ect

 

[SilvioMoltisantiDan]

Magnus says himself he is not a fan of rigorous hard practice

Its the reason he refused Kasparov as a coach because Kasparov wanted him to engage in rote practice and Magnus just didn't enjoy forcing himself to learn stuff

Magnus is actually a prime example of raw talent that can't be practiced. His "practice" basically primarily just consisted of having the freedom to engage with the aspects of chess he was most interested in

He practiced, he practiced equally from when he was a child until he was 34 years old, with discipline and practice, talent is very important but in chess experience and intuition also matter, because by playing tens of thousands of games to be able to play in automatic mode.

 

[///FORTY6IX]

This black and white thinking is very dumb tbh. There are some aspects that you can greatly improve with practice and others that you can’t.

For example, you can’t really practice to become a greater sprinter. That’s mostly set in stone.

You can however practice to become a great artist, orator, writer ect

100 percent agree. I think there are things you can suck at initially, and you could have the ability to become amazing at them given enough time. Sure someone may be better off the bat, but many people will take that for granted and not even bother honing their abilities.

This mindset is also why a lot of people stay hardstuck in their ascension tbh, they give up because the results "didn't naturally come to them".

 

[Saint Casanova]

100 percent agree. I think there are things you can suck at initially, and you could have the ability to become amazing at them given enough time. Sure someone may be better off the bat, but many people will take that for granted and not even bother honing their abilities.

This mindset is also why a lot of people stay hardstuck in their ascension tbh, they give up because the results "didn't naturally come to them".

Also there’s people that genuinely have a high ceiling but progress slowly.

For example, some people at the gym gain muscle very quickly and reach their peak physique in 2 years, whilst others build slowly and reach an even better physique in 5 years,

 

[///FORTY6IX]

Yes obviously. But he wouldn’t have continued if he didn’t have talent.

How do you know that you have a low skill cap? Starting off shit at any activity doesnt garuntee anything on your maximum capacity.

 

[iamaincel]

well i praticed bloodbath and got it down in 2 runs doe

 

[hypernormie]

He practiced, he practiced equally from when he was a child until he was 34 years old, with discipline and practice, talent is very important but in chess experience and intuition also matter, because by playing tens of thousands of games to be able to play in automatic mode.

Yes but he practiced mostly what he enjoyed which is still practice but hardly practice

You can't get away from practice but when your practice is based on just doing what you like with little to no external structure than that shows the primary driver behind his success is the talent

Contrast this to someone like Hikaru who says he's naturally not very great at chess but he had to put his nose to the grindstone and force himself and that's where he saw improvement. In that scenario practice was more valuable than talent

At the peaks of any endeavor, it's going to be the most talented who dominate, not the ones who tried the hardest

 

[SilvioMoltisantiDan]

Yes but he practiced mostly what he enjoyed which is still practice but hardly practice

You can't get away from practice but when your practice is based on just doing what you like with little to no external structure than that shows the primary driver behind his success is the talent

Sure, Magnus's talent is exceptional, but that doesn't mean his "training" is inferior or that he treats it as mere enjoyment. Of course he's passionate about it, but he takes it seriously in practice. While talent is key, we can't disregard the thousands of hours he spends training and playing games.

Contrast this to someone like Hikaru who says he's naturally not very great at chess but he had to put his nose to the grindstone and force himself and that's where he saw improvement. In that scenario practice was more valuable than talent

''Naturally not very great chess player'' and he's top 2. HE'S VERY TALENTED, not at lvl at magnus, cuz magnus is magnus.

At the peaks of any endeavor, it's going to be the most talented who dominate, not the ones who tried the hardest

Nope, those who will be at the top are those who combined practice and talent, like Magnus, Kasparov, Bobby Fischer, etc.

 

[NoaA99]

The proof that talent exists is one of the most blackpilling realisations ever.

Wait till you learn that the majority of what we describe as talent is tied to one single universal variable.

 

[LTNUser]

Talentpill is brutal

True,there is this friend of mine who puts minimum effort and always secures top grades in school
That guy stores stuff in his mind the moment he hears
He doesn't have to study at home or go to tuition
He is an exception because he is far more intelligent than anybody else

 

[CorinthianLOX]

True,there is this friend of mine who puts minimum effort and always secures top grades in school
That guy stores stuff in his mind the moment he hears
He doesn't have to study at home or go to tuition
He is an exception because he is far more intelligent than anybody else

I wish I had this ability

 

[taai]

Yes, but I think this predisposition is also more common and less powerful than we think. I see it all the time in road bike group rides where people that ride for years still commit coordination mistakes and are total noobs while there's others that have 2 months on the bike and they are already way more comfortable and agile. I think it is just one single quality of the person and that is knowing how to learn and curiosity