Praying @Clavicular doesn’t get DJS

[gonnabehappy]

@Clavicular

Botch rate for this surgery is wayyyy too high to justify when you’re already MHTN with no functional issues. I hope all surgeons turned him down except for giant (they’ll accept anyone jfl). TBH it would be malpractice if any US accredited surgeon took him on.

If clav gets botched he’s so mentally unstable that he’d kill himself. Botch rate for this surgery is not something to brush off, imaging being MHTN and going in for DJS then getting a non-union, permanent numbness, and having giant severe a craniofacial nerve and shit. Crazy. Fucking crazy that he’s seriously considering it.

He could be on the beach in a villa hitting the gym, low cortisol, making vids, and slaying.

Botch rate for this surgery is too high to justify if you don’t have true functional and aesthetic issues. Clav does not fit this mold at all.

INB4 retards who want to see him do it for sport

 

[Dr. Mog]

Avoid surgeries as much as possible and always do it the white pill way.

Surgeries are only reasonable when you are an utter SUB5 or less than 5’8 combined with below 3.5 PSL face card.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

A board certified in surgeon once told me the botch rates for double jaw surgery is very low as long as you don't ask for insane projections. Like getting dog maxxed is a possibility sometimes but if you are conservative there's almost no need to worry about a double jaw surgery. It's also a functional first surgery.

 

[Eno]

botch rate is basically 0

 

[amp]

@Clavicular

Botch rate for this surgery is wayyyy too high to justify when you’re already MHTN with no functional issues. I hope all surgeons turned him down except for giant (they’ll accept anyone jfl). TBH it would be malpractice if any US accredited surgeon took him on.

If clav gets botched he’s so mentally unstable that he’d kill himself. Botch rate for this surgery is not something to brush off, imaging being MHTN and going in for DJS then getting a non-union, permanent numbness, and having giant severe a craniofacial nerve and shit. Crazy. Fucking crazy that he’s seriously considering it.

He could be on the beach in a villa hitting the gym, low cortisol, making vids, and slaying.

Botch rate for this surgery is too high to justify if you don’t have true functional and aesthetic issues. Clav does not fit this mold at all.

INB4 retards who want to see him do it for sport

bro wants to stop him from improving

 

[4Christ_sake]

Avoid surgeries as much as possible and always do it the white pill way.

Surgeries are only reasonable when you are an utter SUB5 or less than 5’8 combined with below 3.5 PSL face card.

Dude I’m gonna get surgeries bro I want women to rape me

 

[amp]

@Clavicular

Botch rate for this surgery is wayyyy too high to justify when you’re already MHTN with no functional issues. I hope all surgeons turned him down except for giant (they’ll accept anyone jfl). TBH it would be malpractice if any US accredited surgeon took him on.

If clav gets botched he’s so mentally unstable that he’d kill himself. Botch rate for this surgery is not something to brush off, imaging being MHTN and going in for DJS then getting a non-union, permanent numbness, and having giant severe a craniofacial nerve and shit. Crazy. Fucking crazy that he’s seriously considering it.

He could be on the beach in a villa hitting the gym, low cortisol, making vids, and slaying.

Botch rate for this surgery is too high to justify if you don’t have true functional and aesthetic issues. Clav does not fit this mold at all.

INB4 retards who want to see him do it for sport

hes too deep to even realize its not needed but it will improve him and risk is minimal

 

[yussimania]

hes too deep to even realize its not needed but it will improve him and risk is minimal

barely will improve him look at any bimax result when the person didnt need it. Implants will be doing the heavy lifting here

 

[gonnabehappy]

Risk is life ruining. It’s not “basically zero” or “nonexistent with a good surgeon.” This surgery should be avoided as much as possible.

Just google: r/jawsurgery botch…

… and y’all will be changing your mind on this topic real quick.

Clav is fucking insane if he gets it. Like out of his mind delusional.

 

[iblamexyz]

@Clavicular

Botch rate for this surgery is wayyyy too high to justify when you’re already MHTN with no functional issues. I hope all surgeons turned him down except for giant (they’ll accept anyone jfl). TBH it would be malpractice if any US accredited surgeon took him on.

If clav gets botched he’s so mentally unstable that he’d kill himself. Botch rate for this surgery is not something to brush off, imaging being MHTN and going in for DJS then getting a non-union, permanent numbness, and having giant severe a craniofacial nerve and shit. Crazy. Fucking crazy that he’s seriously considering it.

He could be on the beach in a villa hitting the gym, low cortisol, making vids, and slaying.

Botch rate for this surgery is too high to justify if you don’t have true functional and aesthetic issues. Clav does not fit this mold at all.

INB4 retards who want to see him do it for sport

Educate yourself jfl, DJ is low risk high reward nearly everyone who knows somt about hardmaxing knows dj is low risk


no shit it's still a hardmax which involves breaking the jaw bone but compare to other hardmaxes it's low risk, they literally recommend this to patients with sleep Apana

rehab alr rated him a Chad he's been in the game for longer so I agree wth his rating

 

[User28823]

CHAD or death.

 

[gonnabehappy]

Educate yourself jfl, DJ is low risk high reward nearly everyone who knows somt about hardmaxing knows dj is low risk


no shit it's still a hardmax which involves breaking the jaw bone but compare to other hardmaxes it's low risk, they literally recommend this to patients with sleep Apana

rehab alr rated him a Chad he's been in the game for longer so I agree wth his rating

Completely missing the point. Clav is fucking insane for getting the surgery with no functional issues and no aesthetic issues. I’m almost certain he won’t go through with it.

Yes the surgery is a good treatment for sleep apnea and other functional/aesthetic issues. Clav has none of those. He’s insane. Botch rate is not worth it when you have no issues.

 

[iblamexyz]

Completely missing the point. Clav is fucking insane for getting the surgery with no functional issues and no aesthetic issues. I’m almost certain he won’t go through with it.

Yes the surgery is a good treatment for sleep apnea and other functional/aesthetic issues. Clav has none of those. He’s insane. Botch rate is not worth it when you have no issues.

oh my what botch rate

you clearly doesn't understand the site ur on ''Looksmax'' to max your Looks

 

[yussimania]

oh my what botch rate

you clearly doesn't understand the site ur on ''Looksmax'' to max your Looks

what's his failo that justifies him getting bimax? the only thing i can see is the halo gonion implant that's it everything else is developed well even his browridge but he wants supras like what

 

[iblamexyz]

what's his failo that justifies him getting bimax? the only thing i can see is the halo gonion implant that's it everything else is developed well even his browridge but he wants supras like what

oh my does no one understand the site their own

it's not a meh failo

his maxing out Looks

 

[gonnabehappy]

oh my what botch rate

you clearly doesn't understand the site ur on ''Looksmax'' to max your Looks

THERE IS NOTHING TO MAX. His jaw developed properly.

this is like telling a billionaire to wageslave 24/7 so he can become the richest man on earth

ROI is not justified

 

[gonnabehappy]

oh my does no one understand the site their own

it's not a meh failo

his maxing out Looks

you can barely spell bro, idfk why I’m arguing with you, I gotta leave this site tbh most of the info I need I’ve already learned

 

[iblamexyz]

THERE IS NOTHING TO MAX. His jaw developed properly.

this is like telling a billionaire to wageslave 24/7 so he can become the richest man on earth

ROI is not justified

LMAOOO

I seen his morth, you find it easily on org or any social platform

he won't look like that, but yeah it will max his looks jfl

I don't disgree wth you he doesn't need it but he's getting it

 

[ObsessiveTendencies]

Avoid surgeries as much as possible and always do it the white pill way.

Surgeries are only reasonable when you are an utter SUB5 or less than 5’8 combined with below 3.5 PSL face card.

They're reasonable as long as they will make you look better. You don't need to be ugly as fuck for it to be justified

 

[Pencil]

@Clavicular

Botch rate for this surgery is wayyyy too high to justify when you’re already MHTN with no functional issues. I hope all surgeons turned him down except for giant (they’ll accept anyone jfl). TBH it would be malpractice if any US accredited surgeon took him on.

If clav gets botched he’s so mentally unstable that he’d kill himself. Botch rate for this surgery is not something to brush off, imaging being MHTN and going in for DJS then getting a non-union, permanent numbness, and having giant severe a craniofacial nerve and shit. Crazy. Fucking crazy that he’s seriously considering it.

He could be on the beach in a villa hitting the gym, low cortisol, making vids, and slaying.

Botch rate for this surgery is too high to justify if you don’t have true functional and aesthetic issues. Clav does not fit this mold at all.

INB4 retards who want to see him do it for sport

I agree. Clav will genuinely kill himself if he got botched. He already looks good. God why does he have to be so ND.

 

[hypernormie]

I'm curious how blackpilled one has to be to look like Clav and be considering DJS

Like I look good enough to receive monetary opportunities for my looks
But never have I looked at myself and thought I need a hardmax that requires cutting bone

Like obviously I have my insecurities and know that I can look even better but the most I've considered is implants and some light surgeries like canthoplasty and fat transfer

To alter my bones at my looks level seems like it would be absurd, the risk profile is just too high and my looks already too good justify it

The craziest hardmax I've seriously considered is leg lengthening because of average height but after some deeper consideration it just seems silly to risk my athleticism for some height

I'm saying this because maxxed I probably sit near Clav looks wise, maybe even better because of better base (but I've never looksmaxxed as much as Clav so that's why I say maybe and probably) and I say better base because I was getting more attention for my looks before knowing about the BP and trying to max than Clav

It just seems like you have to be blackpilled at a level I can't comprehend to look that good and risk it to look even better

How much better does he think his life will be with that surgery?

How does one get that blackpilled?

 

[benchmaxxer]

@Clavicular

Botch rate for this surgery is wayyyy too high to justify when you’re already MHTN with no functional issues. I hope all surgeons turned him down except for giant (they’ll accept anyone jfl). TBH it would be malpractice if any US accredited surgeon took him on.

If clav gets botched he’s so mentally unstable that he’d kill himself. Botch rate for this surgery is not something to brush off, imaging being MHTN and going in for DJS then getting a non-union, permanent numbness, and having giant severe a craniofacial nerve and shit. Crazy. Fucking crazy that he’s seriously considering it.

He could be on the beach in a villa hitting the gym, low cortisol, making vids, and slaying.

Botch rate for this surgery is too high to justify if you don’t have true functional and aesthetic issues. Clav does not fit this mold at all.

INB4 retards who want to see him do it for sport

I would only do DJS if you have a functional issue that requires it to be fixed or severe jaw recession that is detrimental to your looks, ex: being a subhuman. I think Clav won’t get botched in the way that most of you think of, but i believe there is a high chance of him turning out uncanny

 

[eon]

Gym and low cortisol in the same sentence

 

[Clavicular]

I'm curious how blackpilled one has to be to look like Clav and be considering DJS

Like I look good enough to receive monetary opportunities for my looks
But never have I looked at myself and thought I need a hardmax that requires cutting bone

Like obviously I have my insecurities and know that I can look even better but the most I've considered is implants and some light surgeries like canthoplasty and fat transfer

To alter my bones at my looks level seems like it would be absurd, the risk profile is just too high and my looks already too good justify it

The craziest hardmax I've seriously considered is leg lengthening because of average height but after some deeper consideration it just seems silly to risk my athleticism for some height

I'm saying this because maxxed I probably sit near Clav looks wise, maybe even better because of better base (but I've never looksmaxxed as much as Clav so that's why I say maybe and probably) and I say better base because I was getting more attention for my looks before knowing about the BP and trying to max than Clav

It just seems like you have to be blackpilled at a level I can't comprehend to look that good and risk it to look even better

How much better does he think his life will be with that surgery?

How does one get that blackpilled?

Black pill community has lost the MOG aspect and its quite concerning, its a bunch of retarded zoomers trying to get ONS and post thirst traps.

Thats why no one here is concerned with roidmaxing or presencemaxing, its the most shitty degression ive ever seen in any community.

Ive gotten triple digit slays before I was higher percentile looks and SMV based on redpill philosophy and realize thats all it takes to get bitches to have ONS and get into decent LTRs.

Im top percentile looks, height, income, and frame placing me in the top 1> percent of men, but the fact that there's anyone out there who mogs me is horrifying and the motivation for why I would consider these extraordinary measures in pursuit of mogging the top moggers.

Normies wouldnt get it, most people on here either. I want to be the best to ever do it.

 

[nova.gg16]

Black pill community has lost the MOG aspect and its quite concerning, its a bunch of retarded zoomers trying to get ONS and post thirst traps.

Thats why no one here is concerned with roidmaxing or presencemaxing, its the most shitty degression ive ever seen in any community.

Ive gotten triple digit slays before I was higher percentile looks and SMV based on redpill philosophy and realize thats all it takes to get bitches to have ONS and get into decent LTRs.

Im top percentile looks, height, income, and frame placing me in the top 1> percent of men, but the fact that there's anyone out there who mogs me is horrifying and the motivation for why I would consider these extraordinary measures in pursuit of mogging the top moggers.

Normies wouldnt get it, most people on here either. I want to be the best to ever do it.

Clav should i get double jaw surgery at 13?

 

[gonnabehappy]

Gym and low cortisol in the same sentence

Yall know wtf I mean

 

[decadouche57]

@Clavicular

Botch rate for this surgery is wayyyy too high to justify when you’re already MHTN with no functional issues. I hope all surgeons turned him down except for giant (they’ll accept anyone jfl). TBH it would be malpractice if any US accredited surgeon took him on.

If clav gets botched he’s so mentally unstable that he’d kill himself. Botch rate for this surgery is not something to brush off, imaging being MHTN and going in for DJS then getting a non-union, permanent numbness, and having giant severe a craniofacial nerve and shit. Crazy. Fucking crazy that he’s seriously considering it.

He could be on the beach in a villa hitting the gym, low cortisol, making vids, and slaying.

Botch rate for this surgery is too high to justify if you don’t have true functional and aesthetic issues. Clav does not fit this mold at all.

INB4 retards who want to see him do it for sport

ND is the biggest failo

 

[decadouche57]

@Clavicular

Botch rate for this surgery is wayyyy too high to justify when you’re already MHTN with no functional issues. I hope all surgeons turned him down except for giant (they’ll accept anyone jfl). TBH it would be malpractice if any US accredited surgeon took him on.

If clav gets botched he’s so mentally unstable that he’d kill himself. Botch rate for this surgery is not something to brush off, imaging being MHTN and going in for DJS then getting a non-union, permanent numbness, and having giant severe a craniofacial nerve and shit. Crazy. Fucking crazy that he’s seriously considering it.

He could be on the beach in a villa hitting the gym, low cortisol, making vids, and slaying.

Botch rate for this surgery is too high to justify if you don’t have true functional and aesthetic issues. Clav does not fit this mold at all.

INB4 retards who want to see him do it for sport

What is DJS

 

[offtogandyheaven]

What is DJS

Double jaw surgery

 

[decadouche57]

Double jaw surgery

What are the complications

 

[offtogandyheaven]

The craziest hardmax I've seriously considered is leg lengthening because of average height

Not crazy at all completely rational

 

[offtogandyheaven]

What are the complications

Wait i see you here all the time you already know this shit

 

[decadouche57]

Wait i see you here all the time you already know this shit

I’m not knowledgable on this procedure

 

[offtogandyheaven]

I’m not knowledgable on this procedure

Compications arent too bad just numbness and potentially bite problems

 

[hypernormie]

Black pill community has lost the MOG aspect and its quite concerning, its a bunch of retarded zoomers trying to get ONS and post thirst traps.

Thats why no one here is concerned with roidmaxing or presencemaxing, its the most shitty degression ive ever seen in any community.

Ive gotten triple digit slays before I was higher percentile looks and SMV based on redpill philosophy and realize thats all it takes to get bitches to have ONS and get into decent LTRs.

Im top percentile looks, height, income, and frame placing me in the top 1> percent of men, but the fact that there's anyone out there who mogs me is horrifying and the motivation for why I would consider these extraordinary measures in pursuit of mogging the top moggers.

Normies wouldnt get it, most people on here either. I want to be the best to ever do it.

I will agree the old BP focus on competition and mogging was much more entertaining. The BP has become a hangout nowadays more than a place for serious self improvement, I also dislike this.

I was actually going to make a proper post posing this question. It was in the drafts but in that post I mentioned I've been to castings surrounded by some genetic freaks, statuesque moggers that look like something out of a comic book. This is not a great feeling but I've always approached it with the mindset "yeah I'm not the biggest mogger here but at least I made it in the room." Still don't get it twisted, I'm also horrified of getting mogged. Being around these people compels you to do everything you can to improve, but from my perspective there was a fundamental gap that could not be bridged. That's why I find your progress so interesting. It's making me reexamine if perhaps I'm being complacent.

By top moggers I'm assuming you mean PSL Gods?

 

[hypernormie]

Not crazy at all completely rational

Rational to consider LL at 5'10?

 

[LTNUser]

CHAD or death.

You do realise that it is not possible for most people to achieve Chad looks in this life?
Btw thoughts on this thread @decadouche57 ?

 

[Daddy's Home]

His entire midface is fucked (nose proportions, mouth to nose ratio, unaesthetic lips, IPD, philtrum, asymmetry, lack of obvious positive canthal tilt etc.), and the problems are so systematic that they would require rebornmaxxing. His jaw is the least of his problems..

Only when you put his face next to a guy who doesn't suffer from these problems you realize that a better jaw won't change shit..

 

[gSmme]

@Clavicular

Botch rate for this surgery is wayyyy too high to justify when you’re already MHTN with no functional issues. I hope all surgeons turned him down except for giant (they’ll accept anyone jfl). TBH it would be malpractice if any US accredited surgeon took him on.

If clav gets botched he’s so mentally unstable that he’d kill himself. Botch rate for this surgery is not something to brush off, imaging being MHTN and going in for DJS then getting a non-union, permanent numbness, and having giant severe a craniofacial nerve and shit. Crazy. Fucking crazy that he’s seriously considering it.

He could be on the beach in a villa hitting the gym, low cortisol, making vids, and slaying.

Botch rate for this surgery is too high to justify if you don’t have true functional and aesthetic issues. Clav does not fit this mold at all.

INB4 retards who want to see him do it for sport

Botch rate is like 0% bruhh Tho it might look shitty if you advance to much in lf1

Btw @Clavicular what was the reason of not choosing LF2 like for real?
LF 2 was great idea ngl it would ascend you af but anyways wishing you luck

And wishing luck to burak he is great surgeon we know you are in good hands.

 

[decadouche57]

You do realise that it is not possible for most people to achieve Chad looks in this life?
Btw thoughts on this thread @decadouche57 ?

It’s a terrible idea he should just get rhino

 

[Foreverbrad]

lol at niggas trying to gaslight him into not getting the surgery

Yes, once this happens every normie will be out there getting surgery. But it’s literally already impossible to slay unless you’re CL+ now so honestly it makes no difference for almost all of us. It is already over.

 

[Clav's Baseball Cup]

nah it'll be funny

 

[Clav's Baseball Cup]

Im top percentile looks, height

calm down nigga ur 6'0.5

manlet height in 2025

 

[car12345]

@Clavicular

Botch rate for this surgery is wayyyy too high to justify when you’re already MHTN with no functional issues. I hope all surgeons turned him down except for giant (they’ll accept anyone jfl). TBH it would be malpractice if any US accredited surgeon took him on.

If clav gets botched he’s so mentally unstable that he’d kill himself. Botch rate for this surgery is not something to brush off, imaging being MHTN and going in for DJS then getting a non-union, permanent numbness, and having giant severe a craniofacial nerve and shit. Crazy. Fucking crazy that he’s seriously considering it.

He could be on the beach in a villa hitting the gym, low cortisol, making vids, and slaying.

Botch rate for this surgery is too high to justify if you don’t have true functional and aesthetic issues. Clav does not fit this mold at all.

INB4 retards who want to see him do it for sport

most obvious larp ever clav is not doing shit, he should get adderal and socialise with real normal humans not some retards like androgenic

 

[offtogandyheaven]

Rational to consider LL at 5'10?

Decently so yes, just for my kid, (i would marry a tallish woman after it)

 

[decadouche57]

lol at niggas trying to gaslight him into not getting the surgery

Yes, once this happens every normie will be out there getting surgery. But it’s literally already impossible to slay unless you’re CL+ now so honestly it makes no difference for almost all of us. It is already over.

Dude what are you saying no one will get surgery do you realize how much pain I went through even as a dedicated and obsessed blackpilled lookksmaxxer?

You think the avg normie is gonna do that? Or even be able to afford it? 99% of people here don’t even get surgery

And you need to be HTN+ to slay

 

[Ultramental]

Black pill community has lost the MOG aspect and its quite concerning, its a bunch of retarded zoomers trying to get ONS and post thirst traps.

Thats why no one here is concerned with roidmaxing or presencemaxing, its the most shitty degression ive ever seen in any community.

Ive gotten triple digit slays before I was higher percentile looks and SMV based on redpill philosophy and realize thats all it takes to get bitches to have ONS and get into decent LTRs.

Im top percentile looks, height, income, and frame placing me in the top 1> percent of men, but the fact that there's anyone out there who mogs me is horrifying and the motivation for why I would consider these extraordinary measures in pursuit of mogging the top moggers.

Normies wouldnt get it, most people on here either. I want to be the best to ever do it.

Winner mentality,normies dont get it

 

[alphamale82]

Risk is life ruining. It’s not “basically zero” or “nonexistent with a good surgeon.” This surgery should be avoided as much as possible.

Just google: r/jawsurgery botch…

… and y’all will be changing your mind on this topic real quick.

Clav is fucking insane if he gets it. Like out of his mind delusional.

we should also avoid going outside because the risks are wayyyyyy too high
we should also avoid driving

 

[Informationcapitali]

lol at niggas trying to gaslight him into not getting the surgery

Yes, once this happens every normie will be out there getting surgery. But it’s literally already impossible to slay unless you’re CL+ now so honestly it makes no difference for almost all of us. It is already over.

Why do u people always thinks its some sort of gatekeeping method to not do something???

I dont get it. Its not sensical to me when he is already going to get minimal difference as he was already gl to begin with or are we going to say he is ugly?

Clav is demonstrsting a sense of inadequacy that i have viewed others in the surgery realm lean to and never get out of even years after…

Additionally, tiktok has many people’d tiktok blow up just cause we see a vid with 1 million views doesntj change much considering that my own oneitid 16 yr old vid has a 1.2 mill view vid there

 

[Informationcapitali]

Winner mentality,normies dont get it

How is this winner mentality? Whats the difference between recruting prostitutes to fuck and “fucking a lot of girls” by looking good. At the end of they day u will still fuck a whole or am i wrong here?

The blackpill community was never founded on the term”mogging” it was more so deceloped the fix obvious failos to allow a person to find a gf and not be lonely in life.

I mean have we forgotten ER and why it was he did what he did?