Prerequisites to heightmaxxing with hgh and ai

[TrueChanglite]

This is gonna be a short thread bc I see niggas wasting money and time using to little hgh or too old JFl then they say heightmaxxing is cope because they didn’t get results JFL

water info but:
fused plates or bone age too old = useless

Ideally:
BA isn’t too old like 16 and under and wrists are unfused aswell as knees

Dose needed:
Not a random iu number you fucking morons
Body weight based doing ideally anywhere from 0.045-0.060mg/kg/day
Igf1 blood serum level must be +1 z score for your age minimum or it won’t do shit ideally 1.5 or slightly over
Too much igf1 can actually mature your plates

E2 ultra sensitive
No lower then 10
Ideally mid 10s
No higher then 20

Also this process takes time don’t expect inches instantly if your estrogen is in the ideal range your Bone age won’t advance fast to produce a monster growth spurt since your slowing estrogen signaling systemically
With hgh your giving your long bones more fuel to grow and slowing BA advancement to prolong the runway

Get to heightmaxxing or stay manlet

Bone density might be lower until you cease Ai or your estrogen raises from mid 10s

 

[6footislaw]

"prerequisite" like its some college course or something

 

[KellSS]

If you're a manlet cope with gymcelling

 

[Ahmed88]

Forgot to add the studies proving hgh doesn't work and increases bone age

Final height after growth hormone therapy in non-growth-hormone-deficient children with short stature

We report the effect of growth hormone (GH) treatment for 4 to 10 years in 15 prepubertal non-GH-deficient short children (10 boys, 5 girls, aged 7.4 …

www.sciencedirect.com

 

[TrueChanglite]

Forgot to add the studies proving hgh doesn't work and increases bone age

Final height after growth hormone therapy in non-growth-hormone-deficient children with short stature

We report the effect of growth hormone (GH) treatment for 4 to 10 years in 15 prepubertal non-GH-deficient short children (10 boys, 5 girls, aged 7.4 …

www.sciencedirect.com

Nice a study from 1994 With 15 children and they didn’t control serum estrogen and used fixed dosages

Nice study moron

No placebo control group

All they did was gave gh and watched

Also the study states it’s preliminary observations

 

[Ahmed88]

Nice a study from 1994

So? It's hgh fucktard, the physiology from gh hasn't changed since 1994 , and obviously it's going to be old since they follow them to final adult height caging at your intelligence

With 15 children and they didn’t control serum estrogen and used fixed dosages

First of all this is long term and follow them to fah, so it's harder to do, most importantly it's 15x more kids then studies where it shows it works (0 studies ), estrogen is not needed for prepubertal children or hgh in general, fixed dosages strengthen the argument jfll

No placebo control group

There is no placebo needed for gh treatment cause they used baseline comparison, target height, and predicted adult height so the absence of a placebo group is valid

Also the study states it’s preliminary observations

So??? Preliminary doesn't invalidate the fondings

Here's a better study:

No Improvement of Adult Height in Non-growth Hormone (GH) Deficient Short Children with GH Treatment - PMC

It is still in doubt whether the standard-dose growth hormone (GH) used in Japan (0.5 IU/kg/week, 0.167 mg/kg/week) for growth hormone deficiency is effective for achieving significant adult height improvement in non-growth hormone deficient ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

I don't wanna hear you talk every again stupid grey faggot

 

[pole]

If you're a manlet cope with gymcelling

make sure to give him the YoungLA starter pack too

 

[TrueChanglite]

So? It's hgh fucktard, the physiology from gh hasn't changed since 1994 , and obviously it's going to be old since they follow them to final adult height caging at your intelligence

First of all this is long term and follow them to fah, so it's harder to do, most importantly it's 15x more kids then studies where it shows it works (0 studies ), estrogen is not needed for prepubertal children or hgh in general, fixed dosages strengthen the argument jfll

There is no placebo needed for gh treatment cause they used baseline comparison, target height, and predicted adult height so the absence of a placebo group is valid

So??? Preliminary doesn't invalidate the fondings

Here's a better study:

No Improvement of Adult Height in Non-growth Hormone (GH) Deficient Short Children with GH Treatment - PMC

It is still in doubt whether the standard-dose growth hormone (GH) used in Japan (0.5 IU/kg/week, 0.167 mg/kg/week) for growth hormone deficiency is effective for achieving significant adult height improvement in non-growth hormone deficient ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

I don't wanna hear you talk every again stupid grey faggot

fixed dosing only proves low dosing doesn't work not proper dosing

your shitty 1994 study used 0.071 IU/kg/day vs a better 2004 study using 0.074 mg/kg/day, which is a little over 3x higher and has shown to increase final height vs placebo as shown in the image

also your shitty japanese study legit says

"The effect of GH treatment is reported to be dose-dependent and doses over 0.23 mg/kg/week are reported to be necessary to improve adult height in non-GHD short children. Currently, the GH dose is fixed at 0.175 mg/kg/week in Japan, and we expected to find, and indeed concluded, that ordinary GH treatment in Japanese, non-GHD short children does not improve adult height."

translation: our shitty fixed japanese dose thats approved does nothing because its too weak

the Japanese study doesnt prove that hgh and ai treatment doesn't work in general, it just didn't in the Japan due to improper dosing

 

[Ahmed88]

fixed dosing only proves low dosing doesn't work not proper dosing

Are you retarded? 1iu/kg is severly outdone and that dose is enough to tell us hgh doesn't work

better study using 0.074 mg/kg/day which has shown to increase final height vs placebo as shown in the image

Im caging This nigga seriously brought up an ISS STUDY

Why HGH is cope and will NOT work for you!!!! (HGH USERS GTFIH!!!)

A lot of People continue to believe that healthy children who lack growth hormone deficiency will experience height increases through HGH injections. It won’t. Why? Let’s get into this 1. How Growth Hormone Actually Works 2. What the Studies ACTUALLY Show 3. Why HGH does NOT work...

looksmax.org

also your shitty japanese study legit says

"The effect of GH treatment is reported to be dose-dependent and doses over 0.23 mg/kg/week are reported to be necessary to improve adult height in non-GHD short children. Currently, the GH dose is fixed at 0.175 mg/kg/week in Japan, and we expected to find, and indeed concluded, that ordinary GH treatment in Japanese, non-GHD short children does not improve adult height."

translation: our shitty fixed japanese dose thats approved does nothing because its too weak

lmao they're just saying ,,our dose didn't work so trying it with another might work"

Fucking retard, i have no idea why im even arguing with someone stupid enough to bring ISS studies