Prettyboys vs Maesthetic vs Ogre/ Hypermasculine......post stories of slayers you know/ youve heard/ from your life....and only with women 16-23, and.

[Skywalker]

...legal age in your country ofc....what happened/ who slayed the most
tag ppl also

 

[Orc]

there aren't any ogres in that age bracket, you're literally too young to look significantly dimorphic.

 

[TechnoBoss]

Only people "slaying" in that age range are prettyboys.

 

[Skywalker]

there aren't any ogres in that age bracket, you're literally too young to look significantly dimorphic.

mostly true yeah, but there still should be some in the under 23s........sam sulek for ex is ogre....

 

[Xangsane]

Only people "slaying" in that age range are prettyboys.

y

 

[Xangsane]

there aren't any ogres in that age bracket, you're literally too young to look significantly dimorphic.

when do you peak in dimorphism

 

[Skywalker]

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[Orc]

mostly true yeah, but there still should be some in the under 23s........sam sulek for ex is ogre....

even lesnar wasn't much of an ogre until nearing his mid twenties, sam isn't really that masculine either facially, has a huge body but also isn't tall, or wide (comparatively to taller guys)

when do you peak in dimorphism

somewhere around your thirties when all your fat-pads have been re-arranged which happens in your twenties.

but it bogs as many men if not more as it ascends.

 

[Skywalker]

even lesnar wasn't much of an ogre until nearing his mid twenties, sam isn't really that masculine either facially, has a huge body but also isn't tall, or wide (comparatively to taller guys)

you are completely INCORRECT

ogre means UGLY primarily, masculine face is still beautiful

so beauty+ dimorphic body= MAESTHETIC
because beauty- dimorphic body= PRETTYBOY
then it follows, as LACK OF beauty(ugliness) + dimorphic body= OGRE

so yes, Sulek IS ogre, and the fact that he isnt "tall " DOESNT matter, as he still has dimorphism with a huge body
but also is AVERAGE height and with lifts he HAS good height, as with lifts he is also almost 6' = GOOD height in the US, generally
dont compare everything with your heightist country

 

[Orc]

you are completely INCORRECT

ogre means UGLY primarily, masculine face is still beautiful

so beauty+ dimorphic body= MAESTHETIC
because beauty- dimorphic body= PRETTYBOY
then it follows, as LACK OF beauty(ugliness) + dimorphic body= OGRE

so yes, Sulek IS ogre, and the fact that he isnt "tall " DOESNT matter, as he still has dimorphism with a huge body
but also is AVERAGE height and with lifts he HAS good height, as with lifts he is also almost 6' = GOOD height in the US, generally
dont compare everything with your heightist country

ogre doesn't mean ugly, if some of your features are above standard deviation developed you will look kind of monstrous but it doesn't mean that you're repulsive, you need to both have overly developed features AND poor harmony to be ugly, arnold for example looks like a neanderthaler but he's also not ugly, one could argue that he's rather attractive despite being an ogre by any sense of the word.

my face is very ogre, but I'm also not particularly ugly, I don't mind sending you an example if you want.

 

[Skywalker]

ogre doesn't mean ugly, if some of your features are above standard deviation developed you will look kind of monstrous but it doesn't mean that you're repulsive, you need to both have overly developed features AND poor harmony to be ugly, arnold for example looks like a neanderthaler but he's also not ugly, one could argue that he's rather attractive despite being an ogre by any sense of the word.

my face is very ogre, but I'm also not particularly ugly, I don't mind sending you an example if you want.

yeah, perhaps not ugly but just "not beautiful" if it makes sense.....the fact that you associated ugly with repulsive shows how you have .org standards= pretty HIGH compared to irl standards (which should BE the standards as we're not male modelling scouts lol)

so then "not beautiful+" + dimorphism= ogre lol; repulsive or ugly is included here then
sulek and brock lesnar are very good examples of ogre as no attractive girl would find their FACE attractive= OGRE
attractive girl + finds your FACE attractive + dimorphic body= you ARE MAESTHETIC

arnold had good bones and id def put him as maesthetic; mike thurston isnt exactly psl top tier either and he is THE EXAMPLE of maesthetics

 

[Xangsane]

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even lesnar wasn't much of an ogre until nearing his mid twenties, sam isn't really that masculine either facially, has a huge body but also isn't tall, or wide (comparatively to taller guys)


somewhere around your thirties when all your fat-pads have been re-arranged which happens in your twenties.

but it bogs as many men if not more as it ascends.

I'm currently a robust prettyboy and I'm 26. When do you think I'd become more dimorphic?

 

[Deleted member 19911]

2 of the biggest slayers I knew, 1 was a pretty boy the other was ogre but kinda Maesthetic

The pretty boy was a manlet but he was boardering Chadlite facially, he was Dominican with curly hair and green eyes and thugmaxxed and he got loads of pussy, most brutal shit I witnessed him do in person was he rizzed up a freshman’s girl in front of his face and he legit looked like a deer caught in the headlights, it was truly a sad sight to see

The ogre was a LTN black but he was 6’8 and super NT and a star athlete, wouldn’t be surprised if I saw him in the NBA in the next drafts, he said he lost his V-card at 13 to a 20 year old cuz he larped about his age, he also claimed to have 40 bodies but I’d say it’s larp since he probably only counted sexual intercourse not PIV

 

[Orc]

yeah, perhaps not ugly but just "not beautiful" if it makes sense.....the fact that you associated ugly with repulsive shows how you have .org standards= pretty HIGH compared to irl standards (which should BE the standards as we're not male modelling scouts lol)

so then "not beautiful+" + dimorphism= ogre lol; repulsive or ugly is included here then

arnold had good bones and id def put him as maesthetic; mike thurston isnt exactly psl top tier either and he is THE EXAMPLE of maesthetics

by definition it just means you look kind of scary, a lot of models are 'ogre' in a way, they aren't conventionally beautiful, in the sense that the average person thinks they look weird.

arnold isn't really comparable to thurston, he looks genuinely scary hence why they casted him for movies such as the terminator or conan, thurston looks kind of friendly, sam also looks friendly, so much so that people resonate with him, shizzy would be an example of an ogre but again he's not particularly ugly.

I'm currently a robust prettyboy and I'm 26. When do you think I'd become more dimorphic?

unlikely to happen unless your mother carries them or you have a hormonal disorder, they're only found in certain populations.

 

[Xangsane]

by definition it just means you look kind of scary, a lot of models are 'ogre' in a way, they aren't conventionally beautiful, in the sense that the average person thinks they look weird.

arnold isn't really comparable to thurston, he looks genuinely scary hence why they casted him for movies such as the terminator or conan, thurston looks kind of friendly, sam also looks friendly, so much so that people resonate with him, shizzy would be an example of an ogre but again he's not particularly ugly.


unlikely to happen unless your mother carries them or you have a hormonal disorder, they're only found in certain populations.

so I'm a robust prettyboy forever until I age?

 

[Orc]

so I'm a robust prettyboy forever until I age?

pretty much.

this is about as close as it gets to ogre in the middle east but he'd just be maesthetic if you shaved his face.

 

[Xangsane]

pretty much.

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this is about as close as it gets to ogre in the middle east but he'd just be maesthetic if you shaved his face.

is it not ideal to be a robust prettyboy
I just wish I had more dimorphism for that dimorphic male model look

 

[Deleted member 54067]

The pretty boy was a manlet but he was boardering Chadlite facially, he was Dominican with curly hair and green eyes and thugmaxxed and he got loads of pussy, most brutal shit I witnessed him do in person was he rizzed up a freshman’s girl in front of his face and he legit looked like a deer caught in the headlights, it was truly a sad sight to see

holy fuck wtf is wrong with that freshman?? if i was him i would have punched the fuck out of that retard the moment he said a word to my girl, as you said he’s a manlet

 

[Skywalker]

by definition it just means you look kind of scary

not scary, just ugly, ugly is scary to foids though lol

a lot of models are 'ogre' in a way, they aren't conventionally beautiful, in the sense that the average person thinks they look weird.

they are NEVER ogre, as models NEED face= un-conventionally looking

they aren't conventionally beautiful

yes thats why its called UNCONVENTIONALLY beautiful lol
best example is perma depressed, druggie looking DePoot

ive edited to explain it better here

so then "not beautiful+" + dimorphism= ogre lol; repulsive or ugly is included here then
sulek and brock lesnar are very good examples of ogre as no attractive girl would find their FACE attractive= OGRE
attractive girl + finds your FACE attractive + dimorphic body= you ARE MAESTHETIC

you can cherry pick and separate features further as youve did, but this is a good tier system for everything ^

 

[Orc]

is it not ideal to be a robust prettyboy
I just wish I had more dimorphism for that dimorphic male model look

overly dimorphic features are hard to balance the chance of ending up ugly is high with it.

 

[Xangsane]

overly dimorphic features are hard to balance the chance of ending up ugly is high with it.

I would have liked to be more classically handsome

 

[St.TikTokcel]

there aren't any ogres in that age bracket, you're literally too young to look significantly dimorphic.

I beg your pardon?

 

[NoReedemingFeature]

overly dimorphic features are hard to balance the chance of ending up ugly is high with it.

How am I supposed to find an ogre girl to save my gracile cutecel bloodline?

 

[Deleted member 19911]

holy fuck wtf is wrong with that freshman?? if i was him i would have punched the fuck out of that retard the moment he said a word to my girl, as you said he’s a manlet

He was a manlet but he had hands lmao, he told me used to do MMA when he was younger so it made sense, I kinda call larp tho tbh it was probably a McDojo MMA class not real fighting

Also I forgot to mention that same freshman sucked his dick a few months later whilst still entertaining her cuck bf lol

 

[Deleted member 30037]

I guess I can talk from my own experience here, I'm a pretty boy in London (22yo) and I get the most attention out of anyone I know or go out with from young Jbs in that age range from 18-25. Fat chicks normally give attention to my masculine friends for some reason but I get IOI's almost everytime I go out from the skinny ones. I'm probably a HTN/Chadlite face, 6'1, white tanned skin, with hazel eyes and clean shaven/ old money hair cut

 

[Orc]

I beg your pardon?
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glad you found my long lost son.

How am I supposed to find an ogre girl to save my gracile cutecel bloodline?

there's not much competition for them as they're not conventionally attractive, tall women are discriminated against much like short men.

 

[Skywalker]

The ogre was a LTN black but he was 6’8 and super NT and a star athlete, wouldn’t be surprised if I saw him in the NBA in the next drafts, he said he lost his V-card at 13 to a 20 year old cuz he larped about his age, he also claimed to have 40 bodies but I’d say it’s larp since he probably only counted sexual intercourse not PIV

i believe him based on his stats
NBA players/ potential drafters live in their own universe and alot of women are fetishizing them even though they have LTN face
ALOT had LTN faces especially in the past
today, with Steph Curry and others they seem to look slightly better....

 

[Deleted member 54067]

I guess I can talk from my own experience here, I'm a pretty boy in London (22yo) and I get the most attention out of anyone I know or go out with from young Jbs in that age range from 18-25. Fat chicks normally give attention to my masculine friends for some reason but I get IOI's almost everytime I go out from the skinny ones. I'm probably a HTN/Chadlite face, 6'1, white tanned skin, with hazel eyes and clean shaven/ old money hair cut

same thing i noticed, skinny girls give attention to “pretty” guys, normal girls for regular decent looking guys and fat girls for masc guys or fat ogre guys

 

[Deleted member 19911]

i believe him based on his stats
NBA players/ potential drafters live in their own universe and alot of women are fetishizing them even though they have LTN face
ALOT had LTN faces especially in the past
today, with Steph Curry and others they seem to look slightly better....

He had a LTN face PSL and feature wise but he still had good appeal tbh, if he was shorter I’m certain he’d still get play

Also yeah athlete halo is real af

I remember after a basketball game he legit approached 3 JB cheerleaders from the opposing team and got all their snaps all at once a few months later in a ps4 party he said he fucked 1 of them and got head from the other

 

[Deleted member 30037]

same thing i noticed, skinny girls give attention to “pretty” guys, normal girls for regular decent looking guys and fat girls for masc guys or fat ogre guys

Yeah - exactly.

By the way I have full lips (that are real btw @Xangsane) and so girls comment on them a lot because I look dimorphic @Skywalker

 

[Skywalker]

I guess I can talk from my own experience here, I'm a pretty boy in London (22yo) and I get the most attention out of anyone I know or go out with from young Jbs in that age range from 18-25. Fat chicks normally give attention to my masculine friends for some reason but I get IOI's almost everytime I go out from the skinny ones. I'm probably a HTN/Chadlite face, 6'1, white tanned skin, with hazel eyes and clean shaven/ old money hair cut

same thing i noticed, skinny girls give attention to “pretty” guys, normal girls for regular decent looking guys and fat girls for masc guys or fat ogre guys

yep
its kinda normal @delonregen
youre def chadlite irl or possibly close to irl chad, which is the only thing that matters
as .org standards ONLY matter for modeling

 

[Deleted member 54067]

Yeah - exactly.

By the way I have full lips (that are real btw @Xangsane) and so girls comment on them a lot because I look dimorphic @Skywalker

it makes me wish i was bigger size wise and more nt as i don’t like skinny girls

btw is London as hypergamous as people on this site say it is?

 

[Deleted member 30037]

btw is London as hypergamous as people on this site say it is?

Yes, it is, but the girls in central London are very very phoney and act like whores. Their main care is social status and wealth. I'll try and find a girlfriend from the suburbs or something because the ones who flock to London are not the type you want to be taking seriously anyway. They come here for the "lifestyle" they think exists jfl in reality they just get pumped and dumped by whoever has a table at a night club. It's like Miami

 

[Deleted member 54067]

Yes, it is, but the girls in central London are very very phoney and act like whores. Their main care is social status and wealth. I'll try and find a girlfriend from the suburbs or something because the ones who flock to London are not the type you want to be taking seriously anyway. They come here for the "lifestyle" they think exists jfl in reality they just get pumped and dumped by whoever has a table at a night club. It's like Miami

miami is subhuman as fuck it’s extremely hot all of the time, at least london has a continental climate with cold winter moderate summer

the ones in central london sound awful but same as guys there, sounds like extreme stuck up richfag territory, how would you say the suburbs are

 

[ElTruecel]

Ogres don’t slay

pretty much.

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this is about as close as it gets to ogre in the middle east but he'd just be maesthetic if you shaved his face.

that’s a 6.5 PSL solid Taliban chad. He’s hyper masculine not an ogre

 

[Orc]

Ogres don’t slay

that’s a 6.5 PSL solid Taliban chad. He’s hyper masculine not an ogre

that was my point middle easterners don't really reach ogre territory.

 

[Deleted member 30037]

miami is subhuman as fuck it’s extremely hot all of the time, at least london has a continental climate with cold winter moderate summer

the ones in central london sound awful but same as guys there, sounds like extreme stuck up richfag territory, how would you say the suburbs are

The suburbs are good it just completely depends where you are. I often tell people London is not one city, it's like 10 different cities in one. Your experience in Kensington in West London will feel 100x different than in Hackney in North London. Even the type of people changes depending on where you are. I guess you just need to find where you will fit in in terms of class/ race/ estate/ hobbies/ entertainment etc

 

[Xangsane]

same thing i noticed, skinny girls give attention to “pretty” guys, normal girls for regular decent looking guys and fat girls for masc guys or fat ogre guys

Yes, it is, but the girls in central London are very very phoney and act like whores. Their main care is social status and wealth. I'll try and find a girlfriend from the suburbs or something because the ones who flock to London are not the type you want to be taking seriously anyway. They come here for the "lifestyle" they think exists jfl in reality they just get pumped and dumped by whoever has a table at a night club. It's like Miami

my wife isn't skinny.

 

[Xangsane]

Yes, it is, but the girls in central London are very very phoney and act like whores. Their main care is social status and wealth. I'll try and find a girlfriend from the suburbs or something because the ones who flock to London are not the type you want to be taking seriously anyway. They come here for the "lifestyle" they think exists jfl in reality they just get pumped and dumped by whoever has a table at a night club. It's like Miami

who do they go for in your experience?
I remember this blonde girl in London trying the League dating app (stacylite) and complained though she gets matches they don't respond to her at all.

 

[Deleted member 30037]

who do they go for in your experience?
I remember this blonde girl in London trying the League dating app (stacylite) and complained though she gets matches they don't respond to her at all.

Whoever has the best status/money and looks. Beautiful girls are not a rarity in London and so the top men have their pick of the bunch. The girls compete for the men not the other way around. Especially athletes/ musicians/ models etc.

 

[Xangsane]

Whoever has the best status/money and looks. Beautiful girls are not a rarity in London and so the top men have their pick of the bunch. The girls compete for the men not the other way around. Especially athletes/ musicians/ models etc.

yeah, I heard a lot of women complain that in London "dating is tough"
I wonder who this said stacylite is matching with but she did say "average looking doctors and investment bankers don't even respond to her"

 

[Xangsane]

Whoever has the best status/money and looks. Beautiful girls are not a rarity in London and so the top men have their pick of the bunch. The girls compete for the men not the other way around. Especially athletes/ musicians/ models etc.

What about looks without status and much money

 

[Cheek0]

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even lesnar wasn't much of an ogre until nearing his mid twenties, sam isn't really that masculine either facially, has a huge body but also isn't tall, or wide (comparatively to taller guys)


somewhere around your thirties when all your fat-pads have been re-arranged which happens in your twenties.

but it bogs as many men if not more as it ascends.

can't wait bro my face has no dimorphism so will it ascend me?

 

[Deleted member 30037]

What about looks without status and much money

Big appeal to young girls as you'd expect. But as soon as they (the girls) hit late 20s they go for the guys you just said above, the ones with money like doctors/ lawyers and whatever. But they're already settled at that stage with younger women and so that's when they start complaining about being single and not finding anyone lol. It's very competitive for sure. I'd like to find a girl outside of the city who's not brainwashed tbh.

 

[Xangsane]

Big appeal to young girls as you'd expect.

what do you mean young girls and what looks level

on as they (the girls) hit late 20s they go for the guys you just said above, the ones with money like doctors/ lawyers and whatever. But they're already settled at that stage with younger women and so that's when they start complaining about being single and not finding anyone lol. It's very competitive for sure. I'd like to find a girl outside of the city who's not brainwashed tbh.

how would I do if I moved to London?

 

[Xangsane]

Big appeal to young girls as you'd expect. But as soon as they (the girls) hit late 20s they go for the guys you just said above, the ones with money like doctors/ lawyers and whatever. But they're already settled at that stage with younger women and so that's when they start complaining about being single and not finding anyone lol. It's very competitive for sure. I'd like to find a girl outside of the city who's not brainwashed tbh.

Oh and BTW, I've got an update about that half-Pakistani girl; she's now in the actual talking stage with that Chad who wanted her to see his family

two of the guys told her they didn't want serious,

 

[MediterraneanApollo]

too vague of a definition for what an ogre is compared to a hyper masculine specimen

I would say ogre implies a negative quasimodo touch with unsymmetrical, overdeveloped features like Andre the giant

hypermasculine would be super masculine and handsome like Drago, Randy Orton or Roman Reigns
I knew a guy like that in my teens, he was a hyper slayer and even jbs found him attractive but never approached

 

[Deleted member 54067]

my wife isn't skinny.

mogs me i doubt i will ever get married. i dont see a sex life in my future

 

[Gerardwayfan]

mostly true yeah, but there still should be some in the under 23s........sam sulek for ex is ogre....

sam sulek looks like an ox lmao

 

[Skywalker]

The suburbs are good it just completely depends where you are. I often tell people London is not one city, it's like 10 different cities in one. Your experience in Kensington in West London will feel 100x different than in Hackney in North London. Even the type of people changes depending on where you are. I guess you just need to find where you will fit in in terms of class/ race/ estate/ hobbies/ entertainment etc

yeah, like @Xtra said it would make sense that attarctive young women would find attractive AND rich men in London so therefore London would be giga hard
i think youd do super good in EE bro, only a flight away and you have englishman halo too