“Primal looksmaxxer” is an oxymoron (message to primal goobers)

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If you are a self proclaimed primal, please leave the forum. This is a self improvement forum not a raw meat circle jerk. Besides most of yall are functionally illiterate anyway. Never in my life have I seen a mf on the primal diet properly interpret science.
 
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If you are a self proclaimed primal, please leave the forum. This is a self improvement forum not a raw meat circle jerk. Besides most of yall are functionally illiterate anyway. Never in my life have I seen a mf on the primal diet properly interpret science.
soyence
 
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Some truth, some cope in it
 
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If you are a self proclaimed primal, please leave the forum. This is a self improvement forum not a raw meat circle jerk. Besides most of yall are functionally illiterate anyway. Never in my life have I seen a mf on the primal diet properly interpret science.
Primal diet is beneficial to looksmaxing progress so silence soy boy
 
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u like the cathedral opinions on nutrition and biology
might as well believe everything else
 
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You also have no explanation nor reasoning to why raw primal is bad
 
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I'm not on it but I like raw dishes and I think the principles of the diet itself are interesting.
 
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You also have no explanation nor reasoning to why raw primal is bad
“yea I love risking disease for functionally zero nutritional benefit”

If you live like an early human you will have the lifespan of an early human.
 
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“yea I love risking disease for functionally zero nutritional benefit”

If you live like an early human you will have the lifespan of an early human.
Where do you source your information from? When you cook your meat, you're creating carcinogend and exogenous AGEs, that just risks cancer potential, and bind to your collagen. Eating your meat raw will also be more efficiently digestible, and consume more nutrients (which has been proven in several studies).
 
Where do you source your information from? When you cook your meat, you're creating carcinogend and exogenous AGEs, that just risks cancer potential, and bind to your collagen. Eating your meat raw will also be more efficiently digestible, and consume more nutrients (which has been proven in several studies).
I also know several people who consume raw meats, eggs, and milk, who are in a much healthier and happier state, hasn't got ill once.
 
“yea I love risking disease for functionally zero nutritional benefit”

If you live like an early human you will have the lifespan of an early human.
You're providing no information whatsoever, except for your personal tiktok knowledge.
 
Where do you source your information from? When you cook your meat, you're creating carcinogend and exogenous AGEs, that just risks cancer potential, and bind to your collagen.
Most plasma AGEs are produced endogenously. 10% or less of dietary AGEs are even absorbed anyway. (source) Some diets low in AGEs result in high serum AGEs and vice versa (source ) Additionally, fatty meat (even raw) contains significantly more AGEs than most cooked food anyway (source)
Eating your meat raw will also be more efficiently digestible, and consume more nutrients (which has been proven in several studies).
Aaand disproven by a quick google search
 
Most plasma AGEs are produced endogenously. 10% or less of dietary AGEs are even absorbed anyway. (source) Some diets low in AGEs result in high serum AGEs and vice versa (source ) Additionally, fatty meat (even raw) contains significantly more AGEs than most cooked food anyway (source)

Aaand disproven by a quick google search
"We found cooking to decrease SDA by 12.7%, grinding to decrease SDA by 12.4%"
 
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Most plasma AGEs are produced endogenously. 10% or less of dietary AGEs are even absorbed anyway. (source) Some diets low in AGEs result in high serum AGEs and vice versa (source ) Additionally, fatty meat (even raw) contains significantly more AGEs than most cooked food anyway (source)

Aaand disproven by a quick google search
"in which the AGE contents of foods were detected with different cooking methods, instead of roasting, grilling and frying, with appropriate culinary techniques including low temperature and high moisture such as stewing, poaching and boiling, low AGE levels can easily be achieved in the foods" so lower temperature achieves lower AGE levels.
 
Again to be disproven. You just provided studies that prove my point :lul:
 
I’m not arguing that cooking doesn’t increase ages i’m just saying the effect on your plasma ages from eating raw food vs cooked is not gonna be very significant for your health. Not worth the risk of bacterial infection.

Besides if you really cared about dietary ages you wouldn’t be consuming fatty red meat anyway.
 
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then you haven’t done enough research into it yourself

you’ll figure it out one day
 
I’m not arguing that cooking doesn’t increase ages i’m just saying the effect on your plasma ages from eating raw food vs cooked is not gonna be very significant for your health. Not worth the risk of bacterial infection.
Yet cooked food has a worser effect on ages than raw does, so what's your point? You cant get any diseases from raw meat,and like I mentioned before, cooked has an increased risk on cancer because of the carcinogens and ages. Raw meat is simply easier digested, will improve your stool and overall health. There's no denying It
 
Yet cooked food has a worser effect on ages than raw does, so what's your point? You cant get any diseases from raw meat,and like I mentioned before, cooked has an increased risk on cancer because of the carcinogens and ages. Raw meat is simply easier digested, will improve your stool and overall health. There's no denying It
Another thing, it depends on the source. If it's from a supermarket, higher chances it will be infected. Which is why everyome gets their meat from a farmers market.
 
Yet cooked food has a worser effect on ages than raw does, so what's your point?
If you cared about ages you wouldn’t eat red meat. It’s just virtue signaling.
You cant get any diseases from raw meat,
Obviously this is untrue, cooking meat kills bacteria. Not sure why I even have to disprove this
. Raw meat is simply easier digested,
already disproved with earlier message
 
If you cared about ages you wouldn’t eat red meat. It’s just virtue signaling.

Obviously this is untrue, cooking meat kills bacteria. Not sure why I even have to disprove this

already disproved with earlier message
Cooking ground beef and pork has been studied to reduce the total free amino acid content https://ift.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1365-2621.1983.tb14859.x

Cooked beef shows a decrease in vitamin content https://www.researchgate.net/public...in_B12_E_and_D_Content_of_Raw_and_Cooked_Beef

Some bacterias are also helpful for a detox, has been studied and confirmed https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9609134/

 
If you cared about ages you wouldn’t eat red meat. It’s just virtue signaling.

Obviously this is untrue, cooking meat kills bacteria. Not sure why I even have to disprove this

already disproved with earlier message
 

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If you cared about ages you wouldn’t eat red meat. It’s just virtue signaling.

Obviously this is untrue, cooking meat kills bacteria. Not sure why I even have to disprove this

already disproved with earlier message
A lower percentage of SDA complicates digestion, which had been proven in the study you linked that cooked meat can lower SDA.
 

"Red meat was classified as Group 2A, probably carcinogenic to humans"

Again, if you cared about carcinogenicity, you wouldn't eat red meat.

Cooking ground beef and pork has been studied to reduce the total free amino acid content https://ift.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1365-2621.1983.tb14859.x
"Boiling and grilling significantly increased the in vitro protein digestibility of meat."

I think there is conflicting research on this topic since we both have studies that disprove each other.
Fair point on this one, though B12 deficincy is very rare, and beef is low in D and E vs other foods.
Some bacterias are also helpful for a detox, has been studied and confirmed https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9609134/
Surely you don't think consuming bacteria is beneficial, right? This study focuses on genetically modified bacteria (not primal) in cancer curing anyway. So no, getting a bacterial infection is not just gonna "detox" you since bacteria literally release cytotoxins.

To be clear, I am not advocating for a diet of burnt meat and goyslop. I just think hyperfixating on everything being raw removes the nuance that is necessary for nutrition. Also, I take more issue with other stuff that primal jesters do, like sunbathing without sunscreen or not researching than the acual diet itself.
 
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"Red meat was classified as Group 2A, probably carcinogenic to humans"

Again, if you cared about carcinogenicity, you wouldn't eat red meat.


"Boiling and grilling significantly increased the in vitro protein digestibility of meat."

I think there is conflicting research on this topic since we both have studies that disprove each other.

Fair point on this one, though B12 deficincy is very rare, and beef is low in D and E vs other foods.

Surely you don't think consuming bacteria is beneficial, right? This study focuses on genetically modified bacteria (not primal) in cancer curing anyway. So no, getting a bacterial infection is not just gonna "detox" you since bacteria literally release cytotoxins.

To be clear, I am not advocating for a diet of burnt meat and goyslop. I just think hyperfixating on everything being raw removes the nuance that is necessary for nutrition. Also, I take more issue with other stuff that primal jesters do, like sunbathing without sunscreen or not researching than the acual diet itself.
"Cooking at high temperatures or with the food in direct contact with a flame or a hot surface, as in barbecuing or pan-frying, produces more of certain types of carcinogenic chemicals (such as polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons and heterocyclic aromatic amines)" ironic

"Rabbit and goat meat showed better nutritional composition, with cooking contributing positively to meat properties" documented only rabbit and goat, which rabbit is white meat.

"better quality attributes in terms of protein digestibility, lower cooking loss, and superior polyunsaturated fatty acid content" Superior pufas, which contribute to skin cancer.

The study on salmonella contributed as a detox against cancer, never contributed to worsening it nor causing any other illnesses
 
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