Private Equity wasn't what it used to be imo

[Jason Voorhees]

Back in the early 2000s, hardly anyone outside finance circles even knew what PE was, so firms could swoop in buy up undervalued companies, strip them for parts and flip them without much scrutiny. Remember Bain Capital's old plays or KKR's classic leveraged buyouts those were the wild west days. They operated with shaky regulation and little public scrutiny so they could quietly strike deals and rake in huge returns.

Fast forward to now markets are saturated interest rates are high and exit routes are drying up. Firms are resorting to shit liquidity strategies lik Inflexion’s £2.3 billion continution fund and risky NAV loans which are being flagged by the Bank of England and FCA for opacity and conflicts of interest.

Meanwhile, big names like Apollo, Blackstone KKR and Ares are underperforming the S&P 500 struggling to sell off past investments at good prices Exits have slowed, investor patience is gone and distribution droughts are intensifying

Gone are the days when PE chads were making huge profits workings in the shadows now regulators and lawmakers are behind their asses and are actively slapping massive fines on these firms. The SEC recently fined TZP Group for excessive, undisclosed fees even though the practice involved just around $509,000. PE can’t hide fee tricks anymore . KKR even backed out of a major £4 billion rescue deal for Thames Water spooked by political risks and regulatory pressure . And then there’s Soho House a club that went public only to falter, then was taken private again in a cautious insider-heavy deal valued at ~$2.7 billion.

TLDR-
Those private Equity days are long behind us. All the money to be made is in hedge funds.

 

[ethnic subhuman]

Too much information for my little brain

 

[mogs me]

Back in the early 2000s, hardly anyone outside finance circles even knew what PE was, so firms could swoop in buy up undervalued companies, strip them for parts and flip them without much scrutiny. Remember Bain Capital's old plays or KKR's classic leveraged buyouts those were the wild west days. They operated with shaky regulation and little public scrutiny so they could quietly strike deals and rake in huge returns.

Fast forward to now markets are saturated interest rates are high and exit routes are drying up. Firms are resorting to shit liquidity strategies lik Inflexion’s £2.3 billion continution fund and risky NAV loans which are being flagged by the Bank of England and FCA for opacity and conflicts of interest.

Meanwhile, big names like Apollo, Blackstone KKR and Ares are underperforming the S&P 500 struggling to sell off past investments at good prices Exits have slowed, investor patience is gone and distribution droughts are intensifying

Gone are the days when PE chads were making huge profits workings in the shadows now regulators and lawmakers are behind their asses and are actively slapping massive fines on these firms. The SEC recently fined TZP Group for excessive, undisclosed fees even though the practice involved just around $509,000. PE can’t hide fee tricks anymore . KKR even backed out of a major £4 billion rescue deal for Thames Water spooked by political risks and regulatory pressure . And then there’s Soho House a club that went public only to falter, then was taken private again in a cautious insider-heavy deal valued at ~$2.7 billion.

TLDR-
Those private Equity days are long behind us. All the money to be made is in hedge funds.

To low iq to understand this

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@Saint Casanova @Chadeep @willbetruechang2299 @AverageCurryEnjoyer @ascension @NepoCel @Cicciosudmaxxer @Foreverbrad @imontheloose

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Too much information for my little brain

To low iq to understand this

Read the TLDR that is all you need to know

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@Sprinkles @romanstock

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@inversions @User28823 @gooner23

 

[willbetruechang2299]

Unfortunate for firms looking at easy profit, but i guess it's for the best, a lot of these firms did nothing but flip to grow their net worth on paper and didn't invest in anything really innovative or useful
i think they tightened up too much though which is exactly why nobody wants to go to pe now, i don't see any real roi going into pe
most of the money was to be made for early investors and top-ranking executives imho

 

[luca_.]

Back in the early 2000s, hardly anyone outside finance circles even knew what PE was, so firms could swoop in buy up undervalued companies, strip them for parts and flip them without much scrutiny. Remember Bain Capital's old plays or KKR's classic leveraged buyouts those were the wild west days. They operated with shaky regulation and little public scrutiny so they could quietly strike deals and rake in huge returns.

Fast forward to now markets are saturated interest rates are high and exit routes are drying up. Firms are resorting to shit liquidity strategies lik Inflexion’s £2.3 billion continution fund and risky NAV loans which are being flagged by the Bank of England and FCA for opacity and conflicts of interest.

Meanwhile, big names like Apollo, Blackstone KKR and Ares are underperforming the S&P 500 struggling to sell off past investments at good prices Exits have slowed, investor patience is gone and distribution droughts are intensifying

Gone are the days when PE chads were making huge profits workings in the shadows now regulators and lawmakers are behind their asses and are actively slapping massive fines on these firms. The SEC recently fined TZP Group for excessive, undisclosed fees even though the practice involved just around $509,000. PE can’t hide fee tricks anymore . KKR even backed out of a major £4 billion rescue deal for Thames Water spooked by political risks and regulatory pressure . And then there’s Soho House a club that went public only to falter, then was taken private again in a cautious insider-heavy deal valued at ~$2.7 billion.

TLDR-
Those private Equity days are long behind us. All the money to be made is in hedge funds.

Too young and innocent to comprehend

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Unfortunate for firms looking at easy profit, but i guess it's for the best, a lot of these firms did nothing but flip to grow their net worth on paper and didn't invest in anything really innovative or useful
i think they tightened up too much though which is exactly why nobody wants to go to pe now, i don't see any real roi going into pe
most of the money was to be made for early investors and top-ranking executives imho

Honestly I am glad everyone knows about private equity's shenanigans now. PE was pretty evil in its early days. Most of their value creation was just gutting companies and firings workers. Best example would be Th Toys “R” Us loaded with billions in debt by KKR, Bain, and Vornado until it collapsed, costing over 30,000 jobs. Even in healthcare PE firms were slammed for buying up hospitals and nursing homes, slashing staff to cut costs and letting patient care decline just to squeeze out margins. This is karma striking back.

 

[willbetruechang2299]

Honestly I am glad everyone knows about private equity's shenanigans now. PE was pretty evil in its early days. Most of their value creation was just gutting companies and firings workers. Best example would be Th Toys “R” Us loaded with billions in debt by KKR, Bain, and Vornado until it collapsed, costing over 30,000 jobs. Even in healthcare PE firms were slammed for buying up hospitals and nursing homes, slashing staff to cut costs and letting patient care decline just to squeeze out margins. This is karma striking back.

An evil for sure, but it can be controlled with the right amount of oversight
I still remember going to Toys R Us for the final time

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@VV62 @Popstar867

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@kurd @Jatt @Vantablack @Yliaster

 

[Jatt]

@kurd @Jatt @Vantablack @Yliaster

Where do you learn all this stuff man

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Where do you learn all this stuff man

I read an ancient artifact called the newspaper

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@DBDR @Chinacurry @Gaia262 @got.daim @我需要阴部 @160cmcurry

 

[NudeSelfiesTilliDie]

Plz tag me in future high IQ shit ur one of the good ones

 

[Chadeep]

Lehmann Brothers was a Warning Sign tbh.

 

[lordgandy2000]

Back in the early 2000s, hardly anyone outside finance circles even knew what PE was, so firms could swoop in buy up undervalued companies, strip them for parts and flip them without much scrutiny. Remember Bain Capital's old plays or KKR's classic leveraged buyouts those were the wild west days. They operated with shaky regulation and little public scrutiny so they could quietly strike deals and rake in huge returns.

Fast forward to now markets are saturated interest rates are high and exit routes are drying up. Firms are resorting to shit liquidity strategies lik Inflexion’s £2.3 billion continution fund and risky NAV loans which are being flagged by the Bank of England and FCA for opacity and conflicts of interest.

Meanwhile, big names like Apollo, Blackstone KKR and Ares are underperforming the S&P 500 struggling to sell off past investments at good prices Exits have slowed, investor patience is gone and distribution droughts are intensifying

Gone are the days when PE chads were making huge profits workings in the shadows now regulators and lawmakers are behind their asses and are actively slapping massive fines on these firms. The SEC recently fined TZP Group for excessive, undisclosed fees even though the practice involved just around $509,000. PE can’t hide fee tricks anymore . KKR even backed out of a major £4 billion rescue deal for Thames Water spooked by political risks and regulatory pressure . And then there’s Soho House a club that went public only to falter, then was taken private again in a cautious insider-heavy deal valued at ~$2.7 billion.

TLDR-
Those private Equity days are long behind us. All the money to be made is in hedge funds.

True, private equity is outdated now

Indian call center scamming is the future, redeeming the card saar = outperform S&P

 

[autistic_tendencies]

I just wanna be an investment banker like Patrick Bateman

 

[laworg]

Back in the early 2000s, hardly anyone outside finance circles even knew what PE was, so firms could swoop in buy up undervalued companies, strip them for parts and flip them without much scrutiny. Remember Bain Capital's old plays or KKR's classic leveraged buyouts those were the wild west days. They operated with shaky regulation and little public scrutiny so they could quietly strike deals and rake in huge returns.

Fast forward to now markets are saturated interest rates are high and exit routes are drying up. Firms are resorting to shit liquidity strategies lik Inflexion’s £2.3 billion continution fund and risky NAV loans which are being flagged by the Bank of England and FCA for opacity and conflicts of interest.

Meanwhile, big names like Apollo, Blackstone KKR and Ares are underperforming the S&P 500 struggling to sell off past investments at good prices Exits have slowed, investor patience is gone and distribution droughts are intensifying

Gone are the days when PE chads were making huge profits workings in the shadows now regulators and lawmakers are behind their asses and are actively slapping massive fines on these firms. The SEC recently fined TZP Group for excessive, undisclosed fees even though the practice involved just around $509,000. PE can’t hide fee tricks anymore . KKR even backed out of a major £4 billion rescue deal for Thames Water spooked by political risks and regulatory pressure . And then there’s Soho House a club that went public only to falter, then was taken private again in a cautious insider-heavy deal valued at ~$2.7 billion.

TLDR-
Those private Equity days are long behind us. All the money to be made is in hedge funds.

Employment final boss

 

[Jatt]

I read an ancient artifact called the newspaper

Only grandpas read that

 

[Jason Voorhees]

True, private equity is outdated now

Indian call center scamming is the future, redeeming the card saar = outperform S&P

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Only grandpas read that

It's a part of my routine. I always read the newspaper while having breakfast

 

[Popstar867]

Back in the early 2000s, hardly anyone outside finance circles even knew what PE was, so firms could swoop in buy up undervalued companies, strip them for parts and flip them without much scrutiny. Remember Bain Capital's old plays or KKR's classic leveraged buyouts those were the wild west days. They operated with shaky regulation and little public scrutiny so they could quietly strike deals and rake in huge returns.

Fast forward to now markets are saturated interest rates are high and exit routes are drying up. Firms are resorting to shit liquidity strategies lik Inflexion’s £2.3 billion continution fund and risky NAV loans which are being flagged by the Bank of England and FCA for opacity and conflicts of interest.

Meanwhile, big names like Apollo, Blackstone KKR and Ares are underperforming the S&P 500 struggling to sell off past investments at good prices Exits have slowed, investor patience is gone and distribution droughts are intensifying

Gone are the days when PE chads were making huge profits workings in the shadows now regulators and lawmakers are behind their asses and are actively slapping massive fines on these firms. The SEC recently fined TZP Group for excessive, undisclosed fees even though the practice involved just around $509,000. PE can’t hide fee tricks anymore . KKR even backed out of a major £4 billion rescue deal for Thames Water spooked by political risks and regulatory pressure . And then there’s Soho House a club that went public only to falter, then was taken private again in a cautious insider-heavy deal valued at ~$2.7 billion.

TLDR-
Those private Equity days are long behind us. All the money to be made is in hedge funds.

I as a finance student still got confused reading this mostly since I don’t care that much about our past but I agree with you about hedge funds since most of our class wanted to become hedge fund managers since it’s one of the most if not the most high paying finance related salary

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@isis_Bleach @Jager @Brus Wane @Seth Walsh

 

[Brus Wane]

Too much information for my little brain

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@Bryce @thales20 @keife

 

[Bryce]

It's a part of my routine. I always read the newspaper while having breakfast

Mirin

Newspapers are still a thing? They used to throw them around my block but stopped probably ~5 years ago

 

[AverageCurryEnjoyer]

@Saint Casanova @Chadeep @willbetruechang2299 @AverageCurryEnjoyer @ascension @NepoCel @Cicciosudmaxxer @Foreverbrad @imontheloose

Ovee for my ass, Lowkey going to finance and learning how tk trade by myself

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Mirin

Newspapers are still a thing? They used to throw them around my block but stopped probably ~5 years ago

There's a free newspaper stand in my dorm, and it's way more convenient to grab a paper and browse through anything interesting over breakfast than to watch a news channel with someone yelling at me at 7 AM in the morning to start my day. Everyone thinks newspapers are fossils but

Online news is engineered for clicks. Outrage, shock value, polarizing hot takes that's how they farm engagement. Social media amplifies this until you're just doomscrolling an endless feed of ragebait.

Newspapers move slower and tend to be more measured. They're curated, edited, fact-checked (usually), and less likely to be a firehose of half-baked opinion.

 

[keife]

@Bryce @thales20 @keife

Vro knows I exist w mirin thread

 

[Vantablack]

Back in the early 2000s, hardly anyone outside finance circles even knew what PE was, so firms could swoop in buy up undervalued companies, strip them for parts and flip them without much scrutiny. Remember Bain Capital's old plays or KKR's classic leveraged buyouts those were the wild west days. They operated with shaky regulation and little public scrutiny so they could quietly strike deals and rake in huge returns.

Fast forward to now markets are saturated interest rates are high and exit routes are drying up. Firms are resorting to shit liquidity strategies lik Inflexion’s £2.3 billion continution fund and risky NAV loans which are being flagged by the Bank of England and FCA for opacity and conflicts of interest.

Meanwhile, big names like Apollo, Blackstone KKR and Ares are underperforming the S&P 500 struggling to sell off past investments at good prices Exits have slowed, investor patience is gone and distribution droughts are intensifying

Gone are the days when PE chads were making huge profits workings in the shadows now regulators and lawmakers are behind their asses and are actively slapping massive fines on these firms. The SEC recently fined TZP Group for excessive, undisclosed fees even though the practice involved just around $509,000. PE can’t hide fee tricks anymore . KKR even backed out of a major £4 billion rescue deal for Thames Water spooked by political risks and regulatory pressure . And then there’s Soho House a club that went public only to falter, then was taken private again in a cautious insider-heavy deal valued at ~$2.7 billion.

TLDR-
Those private Equity days are long behind us. All the money to be made is in hedge funds.

GOOD, PE ruined many countries like the UK and Canada, and was coming afrer the USA too. Fuck PE and fuck jews

 

[Jason Voorhees]

GOOD, PE ruined many countries like the UK and Canada, and was coming afrer the USA too. Fuck PE and fuck jews

Agreed PE ruined many good companies

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@Tyler1

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@wishIwasSalludon

 

[Tyler1]

Back in the early 2000s, hardly anyone outside finance circles even knew what PE was, so firms could swoop in buy up undervalued companies, strip them for parts and flip them without much scrutiny. Remember Bain Capital's old plays or KKR's classic leveraged buyouts those were the wild west days. They operated with shaky regulation and little public scrutiny so they could quietly strike deals and rake in huge returns.

Fast forward to now markets are saturated interest rates are high and exit routes are drying up. Firms are resorting to shit liquidity strategies lik Inflexion’s £2.3 billion continution fund and risky NAV loans which are being flagged by the Bank of England and FCA for opacity and conflicts of interest.

Meanwhile, big names like Apollo, Blackstone KKR and Ares are underperforming the S&P 500 struggling to sell off past investments at good prices Exits have slowed, investor patience is gone and distribution droughts are intensifying

Gone are the days when PE chads were making huge profits workings in the shadows now regulators and lawmakers are behind their asses and are actively slapping massive fines on these firms. The SEC recently fined TZP Group for excessive, undisclosed fees even though the practice involved just around $509,000. PE can’t hide fee tricks anymore . KKR even backed out of a major £4 billion rescue deal for Thames Water spooked by political risks and regulatory pressure . And then there’s Soho House a club that went public only to falter, then was taken private again in a cautious insider-heavy deal valued at ~$2.7 billion.

TLDR-
Those private Equity days are long behind us. All the money to be made is in hedge funds.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

View attachment 4036892

Real the TLDR that is all you need to know.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@emeraldglass

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@Gengar

 

[emeraldglass]

@emeraldglass

True, PE has changed a lot. Early 2000s deals were easier with less scrutiny, but now regulators, crowded markets, and higher rates make returns fucking though. Some big firms are underperforming public indices, but PE isn’t completely dead though, strategic, long term plays still make money. Hedge funds aren’t automatically better either, they’re just a different risk/reward game.

 

[Eren]

was supposed to get into finance and then go into PE as an exit / pre-retirement strategy but i didn't manage to find a finance internship during my last year of bachelor before doing a master, so i decided to switch to consulting

you can't go to PE without connections, its like finance but 50x harder

will see the impact it will have on my life

 

[moonch1ld]

Back in the early 2000s, hardly anyone outside finance circles even knew what PE was, so firms could swoop in buy up undervalued companies, strip them for parts and flip them without much scrutiny. Remember Bain Capital's old plays or KKR's classic leveraged buyouts those were the wild west days. They operated with shaky regulation and little public scrutiny so they could quietly strike deals and rake in huge returns.

Fast forward to now markets are saturated interest rates are high and exit routes are drying up. Firms are resorting to shit liquidity strategies lik Inflexion’s £2.3 billion continution fund and risky NAV loans which are being flagged by the Bank of England and FCA for opacity and conflicts of interest.

Meanwhile, big names like Apollo, Blackstone KKR and Ares are underperforming the S&P 500 struggling to sell off past investments at good prices Exits have slowed, investor patience is gone and distribution droughts are intensifying

Gone are the days when PE chads were making huge profits workings in the shadows now regulators and lawmakers are behind their asses and are actively slapping massive fines on these firms. The SEC recently fined TZP Group for excessive, undisclosed fees even though the practice involved just around $509,000. PE can’t hide fee tricks anymore . KKR even backed out of a major £4 billion rescue deal for Thames Water spooked by political risks and regulatory pressure . And then there’s Soho House a club that went public only to falter, then was taken private again in a cautious insider-heavy deal valued at ~$2.7 billion.

TLDR-
Those private Equity days are long behind us. All the money to be made is in hedge funds.

Every Wall Street job ever.

 

[moonch1ld]

Every Wall Street job ever.

VC asw bruh , literal subhumans(in every way) at the top.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

was supposed to get into finance and then go into PE as an exit / pre-retirement strategy but i didn't manage to find a finance internship during my last year of bachelor before doing a master, so i decided to switch to consulting

you can't go to PE without connections, its like finance but 50x harder

will see the impact it will have on my life

Top consultancy firms are also really hard to get into.

 

[Eren]

Top consultancy firms are also really hard to get into.

i currently am in a consultancy firm that is right after the big4 (lots of deloitte employees here)
yeah MBBs is almost impossible in france because of "nobility recruiting" (you have to have a certain social status + a very specific kind of study curriculum to enter, so even if you have the correct diploma and the skills if you didn't follow the specific steps to get that diploma you can't enter)

as long as i improve my looks, invest, and get enough money without working 80 housr a week its fine

 

[Jason Voorhees]

i currently am in a consultancy firm that is right after the big4 (lots of deloitte employees here)
yeah MBBs is almost impossible in france because of "nobility recruiting" (you have to have a certain social status + a very specific kind of study curriculum to enter, so even if you have the correct diploma and the skills if you didn't follow the specific steps to get that diploma you can't enter)

as long as i improve my looks, invest, and get enough money without working 80 housr a week its fine

I thought France has a more boutique firms situation instead of the major player s

 

[Eren]

I thought France has a more boutique firms situation instead of the major player s

Yeah but people want to go into MBBs
And no one knows these fucking boutiques
And they don’t give a fuck about you, there is too much competition
And now they like to recruit non whites and girls so it’s even more joever
I know people that succeeded to go into the boutiques but they did 6 hours of LinkedIn a day for 4 months instead of listening to the courses

 

[kurd]

Where do you learn all this stuff man

nga uses chatgpt for all his posts

 

[Justakid]

Back in the early 2000s, hardly anyone outside finance circles even knew what PE was, so firms could swoop in buy up undervalued companies, strip them for parts and flip them without much scrutiny. Remember Bain Capital's old plays or KKR's classic leveraged buyouts those were the wild west days. They operated with shaky regulation and little public scrutiny so they could quietly strike deals and rake in huge returns.

Fast forward to now markets are saturated interest rates are high and exit routes are drying up. Firms are resorting to shit liquidity strategies lik Inflexion’s £2.3 billion continution fund and risky NAV loans which are being flagged by the Bank of England and FCA for opacity and conflicts of interest.

Meanwhile, big names like Apollo, Blackstone KKR and Ares are underperforming the S&P 500 struggling to sell off past investments at good prices Exits have slowed, investor patience is gone and distribution droughts are intensifying

Gone are the days when PE chads were making huge profits workings in the shadows now regulators and lawmakers are behind their asses and are actively slapping massive fines on these firms. The SEC recently fined TZP Group for excessive, undisclosed fees even though the practice involved just around $509,000. PE can’t hide fee tricks anymore . KKR even backed out of a major £4 billion rescue deal for Thames Water spooked by political risks and regulatory pressure . And then there’s Soho House a club that went public only to falter, then was taken private again in a cautious insider-heavy deal valued at ~$2.7 billion.

TLDR-
Those private Equity days are long behind us. All the money to be made is in hedge funds.

I actually did understand this