Problems in the Dating Market for White Men, Solutions

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This thread is a response to @6ft4's thread about the changing dating market.


I was aware of everything mentioned in that thread fully by 2022. I hesitated to post about it because it was mind boggling to me that nobody knew the actual reasoning behind the difficult dating market, especially in 2026 and I wanted to see at least someone touch on the topic to know I live around actual reasoning humans before attempting to even get into it any deeper. I've been searching heavily for someone to mention the root causes and was surprised that nothing had popped up here until @6ft4's thread. I knew Reddit would never mention or gaslight any thread about this so figured here would be the only place you would find this being mentioned.

Let me be extremely clear. The difficulty in "general" in dating comes down to the fact that white women are no longer attracted to white men in general at the current moment, or at least not enough to fuel a reasonable dating economy for white men. This fuels ethnics to aim for white women instead of their own women which in the ends causes less relationships for both ethnics and whites because the ethnics are refusing to date their own women in hopes for a white woman.

The result of this is white men going for Asian females. This is the biggest cope of all time as they are not what the white men want contrary to coping white Male idiots. Also when the statistics dropped for the interracial babies born, white women are interracially having babies more than white men. That's not even including hookup culture which is drastically stacked against white men.

Before getting to the solution we have to dig even deeper into the problem than the previous thread. Most of that thread was correct and blackpilled but I have to blackpill us even further to even be able to get us whites to a red-pilled place. Let me also be very clear: This take and my solution will benefit white men alone. If you're an ethnic and having dating troubles I don't care about you even remotely and this thread will be of no benefit to you either way.

Me Personally:

White Mid-Tier Normie. I would be Chad-Lite easily but I'm 5'9. I have a good looking face and proportions so I still look aesthetic but of course at 5'9 you'll be in a difficult spot no matter what. I mention this because any ethnic will be biased heavily on their takes so I'm letting you know beforehand that I have no reason to lie at all and the solution below will benefit me directly. I'm on tinder and my matches are pretty high quality honestly, not Stacy-Lite but a lot of HTN women. One of the last woman I slept with was a legit 9/10. @Clavicular would rate her lower based on his rating scales but she was very good looking.

What white women are looking for and why it doesn't benefit white men anymore:

Emotional Intelligence:

Women do actually care about emotional intelligence. However the things that allow emotional intelligence to be expressed naturally are heavily against white men in modern society. The two things that lead to the outward expression of emotional intelligence are strong internal motivating factors, security, and self worth or strong external motivating factors, security, and self worth. Having these intrinsic or extrinsic factors in check will naturally lead to confidence so for all practical purposes we can consider emotional intelligence = confidence.

Ethnics inherently have security within their own culture because their culture is not valued as highly as whites and therefore they are not "under attack" in the same way that whites are. Whites do not have a culture separate from themselves because everyone is always trying to take what the whites have. This is what also fuels the "whites have no culture" idea that people always have. It's not just this that leads to the lack of culture (as I'll explain later) but this is a big part of it.

Mind of an Ethnic:
"If things don't work out for me in dating white women then I will simply date my own and therefore I am happy and secure either way"

Mind of a White Man:
"If things don't work out for me I will have to actively leave my own people and date another race entirely"
Therefore: Ethnics have the option for both intrinsic and extrinsic motivation, Whites have only the option for intrinsic as there is no "better culture" with better women for us to look forward to if our own women abandon us we're left to rot while we are replaced by people that hate us and want to see us fail.

This is destroying the white male mind fundamentally to the point where the only white males left with "Emotional Intelligence" are the oofy doofy losers who would literally walk into a burning building without noticing. If they even consider intellectually what is happening in the world around them they will lose their oofy doofy childlike charm and have to start working toward the red pill or things will get so bad that they will have to start red-pilling eventually regardless. Some white men are just built for the oofy doofy life so even if they noticed it wouldn't affect them the same as MTN men. The sight of seeing your women actively trying to hate on you and fucking a subhuman is devastating honestly to a reasonably aware white male after awhile. Most whites just stop going to the club to avoid having to deal with the issue.

Height:

Height in general is highest among whites as a whole as they are the tallest, but if you were to just take height into account as many women are doing now the results will always be more ethnics with white females and more white males forced into dating ethnics because not all whites are taller than all ethnics.

Face used to be a reflection of your personality and more respected and attractive to women, however a good personality in general has heavily under attack for whites as a lot of their personality was based around in group preference and expressing. Modern personalities accepted by women are primarily just going with the flow and taking things easy. The true mogger personalities are gone for the most part so that's why personality is mainly a meme now and why height is taking over so heavily (women have always liked height but now more than ever).

Culture:

White culture always looks the most based when there's an exclusionary element to it. One of the fundamental laws of life is that anything that provides a benefit will ultimately be seeked out and attempted to be taken by those around you (water). When white men allow other people into their culture it strongly degrades the whites in the white culture even if the "total" cultural appeal goes up because nobody respects something that is being actively taken advantage of. The "caring" culture of whites is inherently backfiring on us and making us look weak (water). This reflects more negatively on the men than the women and because the "total" culture is going up women don't care at all (Black music has helped music in the West make better music for example) as their value doesn't go down for looking caring and their own men are still attracted to them.

This would be all find and well but it's difficult for white men to skin-suit their way into this music culture. Yes there are white rappers and yes Eminem was lyrically the best, but the "Down and Dirty" aspects of rap don't fit well for white men as we inherently look like idiots rapping even if we're the best at it. Machine Gun Kelly had the best attempt at white mumble rapping on his "Hotel Diablo" with it's elements of the darker rock and roll aspects that whites mog in but it still doesn't sound as good as something like xxxtentacion was or similar rappers.

Whites in general look best and strongest when they are at war or when they are the leaders of movements. A black leader is ultimately a joke because of the black nature alone. Lots of people say that blacks look more natural when physically asserting their dominance but it's actually not true. Any black that asserts dominance always looks like he's chimping out and can't be taken seriously. When an African leader attempts to rile up their masses it's legitimately cringe, versus when Hitler speaks it pierces your veins as the white voice carries further and penetrates deeper psychologically and when you're white there's no "mask" like a black has slightly always hiding in their skin regardless of what they are doing.

This comes into play in the music scene as well. Hollywood ultimately is best for whites it's just that modern Hollywood is controlled by the banks (I don't want to lose you guys on the conspiracy aspects of this but Hollywood is legitimately controlled) and actually aims to make white men look weaker, as opposed to music where whites actually just are worse in some areas.

If whites could further their movement into rap with a Machine Gun Kelly Hotel Diablo style of music we could slowly take back the club scene but whites in general have other things to do than make music. Clubbing to a slightly darker club environment like you see in the scenes in the Matrix where he meets trinity (The song that was playing was Dragula - Rob Zombies) can only be done if red-pilled otherwise it just feels autistic.

Example songs where whites have a potential to mog in the club scene if they could blend things correctly and not fall too deeply into metal where it's autistic to dance to:

- El Diablo - MGK
- Floor 13 - MGK
- Undead - Hollywood Undead
- 44 more - Logic
- Just Like Johnny - Redferrin
- White Horse - Chris Stapleton
- Pop the Trunk - Yelawolf
- Dope - Yelawolf
- Daddy's Lambo - Yelawolf

White men have to lead the way on this front where it's more natural for whites to vibe to this than blacks whereas the modern mumble rap culture is a bit more natural for blacks. Note it's still easy to dance to black music and I really like black music (regretfully) it's just not as based when you're not part of the race that created the music, as that gives you an enormous extra halo.

The pills and where whites inherently fit into them:

One question for whites would be "Why don't they just kick all of the ethnics out".

It's a good question but also requires a lot of explanation. Besides the main driving force of economics and the benefits for banks to have a diverse economy, white cultures are different from other cultures in that they have "stripped" away some of their culture in order to make machines and excel in an industrial society. This causes a rift amongst the white people so that there is no longer "one" white frame of mind anymore. Amongst whites you naturally have white pillers, black pillers, blue pillers, and - lastly and extremely rare - actual red pillers.

All ethnics are inherently blue pilled by nature. I don't care about "muh I have this friend who is so different from other blacks and is a red piller just like me". No. You can never be red pilled as a black because you don't understand what it means to actually have to defend yourself and your way of life from attack without being able to resort to war against the powerful bankers, which is almost impossible. The "apparent" red pilled ethnics are worse than all other blue pilled ethnics as they attempt to trick stupid white pilled or blue pilled whites into thinking they are the same but they never are. All of the prominent black figured will attempt to gain a foothold in white culture and then brown the culture with their inherently subhuman views. Even the best of them. Barack Obama, Lewis Hamilton, Jarome Iginla (Canadian black hockey player), are all snakes that will take what they can and then try to brown the culture. I've seen them all support blacks rioting in white neighbourhoods and destroying communities.

White pilled whites are more in line with the blue pillers almost always. They're always learning but never coming to any knowledge of the truth. You can't convince these ones of the red pill as they are always so far up their own ass in useless information and white pilled ideas about the world that they are inherently against any red piller always. These are corporate normies almost always. Think of any skinny fitness enthusiast who goes on about how beneficial the gym is and yet has never hit the gym.

Blue pilled whites are guys like Shane Gillis that "dwell in and ignorantly revile in their own self hatred" OR just are oblivious to life in general. Think Shane Gillis. People will call him based but he's just a loser blue piller.

Black pilled whites are aware of the world around them but haven't figured out the solution yet. Think the germans prior to World War II and now. And any western male nowadays for that matter who has taken the time to think about the current predicament they find themselves in. Usually the incels hit the blackpill first but it's spreading to all white males slowly now as things are getting worse.

Red pilled whites. The red pilled whites almost never exist anymore. I'll go further into how to get to this step below as the solution is to become a red pilled white male and the problems you are going to face before final ascension and how once ascended you will no longer face resistance anymore. A lot of people picture red pill as modern PUA culture and black pill as looksmaxxing but really it's deeper than that. The black pill is where we are now. Looksmaxxing is still a form of white pilling.

So whenever the time comes to get rid of ethnics all of the ethnics pool together because they are inherently blue pilled, and the whites are split amongst themselves being of different minds.

What is a red pilled white male and why are they so rare?

Red pilled white men are fundamentally shielded from any of the aforementioned problems listed above. It's a psychological state of mind that creates a "ward" around you that separates and segregates those who want to take what is yours. It's just basically being a complete mogger. Modern media is always trying to bring white men down because they become more controllable and reliant on employers and money from bankers. Black men haven't been useful since slavery when modern machinery was invented and they no longer had the ability to gain profit for their masters so there's no point in subjecting them to propaganda anymore.

Why are red-pilled men so rare?

- White men didn't have to be top tier to have a fulfilling life in the past. They could get a looksmatched white woman with minimal effort and having an attractive woman wasn't as important because people saw their fellow kinfolk as similar to them and took pride in their success as well as their own. MEANING if Tommy didn't get Stacy then Chad could take her instead and Tommy was fine with what he got for a wife because societies were more mutually beneficial than now. In 2026 if we can't attract our own women our race is going extinct/be taken over for no good reason. We'll have been beaten with no fight. Not only that we won't even be going extinct together, only the men will be extinguished, the women we loved are going to carry on pleasing the subhumans that "fought" against us.

- Red pilled men have to accept that they will be mostly alone in their views. Most conversations you have will be virtually the opposite of what you believe in and your ego would have protected you from requiring you to be red pilled in the past. Luckily now the red pill is becoming more common in white men and you don't have to be as alone in your views. You likely had to become red pilled only because of prior life experiences not setting you up for success in one way or another.

- As white men are slowly starting to be attacked they always start with the best looking or most successful men and work their way down from there. The elites are toppled first (Jews took down the Aristocracy prior to WW1 in all European nations). This is a small portion of the population and so the white males don't complain as it benefits them. Then the top tier males are attacked and slowly pushed down by modern media (started happening after WWII). The majority of white men are not good looking and so they are fine with this too as the top tier men are taken out of the competition and blue pilled LTN white men are able to pull white women still (White normies still attractive until around 2020). Then they bring in the full brunt of force on the white man in general and it forces an entire people to be red-pilled. This is how it starts to happen all at once. The white blue pilled normies are still pulling to a certain degree but they are not going to experience a true club life like a Chad had access to before as that has been given over to the ethnics.

What about white women. What is their problem exactly? Are they praying on the downfall of their own men?

Women have been benefitting from increasing immigration ever since it began. Mass immigration led to women being bolstered up through equality initiatives in multiple ways. When immigrants come in employers are forced to pick between bringing another woman into the company or an ethnic. The white employer will then always pick a white female as the employers didn't like ethnics inherently so the ethnic was always a poison berry for the women initially. Namely if you don't pick me you'll get this (ethnic).

Now that almost all women are in the workplace the ethnics essentially worship them and are against "white men" the same as they are due to the white woman's love for feminism. Feminism allows women to control their own white men and allows them to have their men bent to their own will. They enjoy this for obvious reasons and it was never really a problem for men until recently where white women actually started deliberately hating their own men and they are no longer using ethnics for leverage but actually fulfillment separate from the white men.

This is different from what the women used Ethnics for initially. Initially ethics were only a there for women to attack their own men with from the female perspective. Namely "If you yell at me I'll go get raw dogged by 10 black guys". So men had to tip toe around women to avoid this from happening. This tip-toe'ing around eventually degraded the white mans mental health to the point where he was no longer getting any emotional support from the white woman AT ALL and lived being silenced by his own women. After this started happening women resented their men for being so weak and having seen the weak men they no longer even cared for their men anymore. They got the ick from they own men and figured maybe their men are just inherently insecure and have always been reliant on women and without them they truly will stand as they really are - weak insecure pussies. They see their own men as weak and feminine unlike blacks who are able to be men inherently without relying on their women. The truth is the women are misguided as always. They've never experienced being hated for no reason and black men are not hated by their own women like white women are so their findings are false. Black men would be 10x weaker if attacked as heavily as white men.

However, even after this realization will become apparent that white men are not actually weak (if it has not already). Women are seeing men as "vanilla", uninteresting, uncultured because of the mass takeover of culture that has taken place in the white mens temporary absence. Women can only respond to what they see and all they can see is their men are vanilla pussies that aren't worthy of their time even though they caused it.

When white men become red pilled or at least take their culture back the women will naturally follow suit. Do not listen to what women say about ethnics being inherently attractive in any way. They only act this way because they are emboldened by the media.

Solutions

Why and how modern feminism has to be destroyed

What started as a way for women to gain control and out of the household has manifested into spoiled white women who have no idea what is going on in the world. Their age of maturity even at 40 is somewhere likely around a 21 year old males maturity level. Both their emotional intelligence and technical intelligence on subjects is extremely low. They've been convinced that reading a textbook has made them smart so there's no use trying to argue with them. They have no interest in politics or reaching a common ground solution as they are currently the ones in power. Similar to men before feminism began. It is difficult to destroy feminism because we are literally being replaced right now and we don't have the leverage to bargain with because they are literally too stupid to even know what they are doing.

The only thing to know is that a feminist womans ideas and values cannot be taken at face value because they aren't even following their own rules so it has to be abolished. It wasn't all for nothing that they had feminism. It's going to bring about higher quality men in general but it's gone way way too far. They've gotten into the workplace, their men are respecting them, and they are on an equal playing field to us and we'll leave that in place.

You have to not be gaslitten by feminists anymore and take nothing they say at face value because the more you listen to them the less time you spend on yourself and the more you'll feel inadequate and attacked.

Take common feminist views:

They say men are lazy and so they won't have sex with them until they start doing household work. Ethnics are the laziest slobs on the entire planet and they still fuck ethnics. The only time ethnics work hard is when they are promised salvation in the whites land and access to the white women.

They say they will not respect men who do not respect women. All ethnics do not respect their own women.

They say that they do not like the feeling of being "used" by men. Ethnics inherently only like white women for their white skin and attractive features so they are 100% being used by ethnics compared to white men who value them inherently as equals.

They say that they will not date men that aren't reliable and accountable. Ethnics are the biggest traitors of all time. They left a land that they belonged in because they arrogantly thought they were superior to their own people. They will leave their own land and the Western nation the moment things go downhill so their are the exact opposite of accountable.

Feminism is about gender equality but many feminists are now in with the equality crowd in terms of race as well. Feminists will say they hate racists. Ethnics are the most racist of all as they hate their own people and love white women, therefore they are the most racist. White men only have in group preference. Never accept that you have to "not be racist" it is the single most idiotic thing you can possibly believe as a white man because being non racist only negatively affects you in reality.

Some people say "Oh I didn't create the things my ancestors did so why should I have white pride?" It doesn't fucking matter. You have something of value that others desire. Yourself, and your women. The definition of pride is realization that you have something that it desired. It doesn't matter whether you "earned it". The fact of the matter is you have qualities in being white that others are desiring and you have no choice but to be proud and protect those inherent qualities otherwise others will come and try to take your positive qualities from you. This isn't a blackpill btw, there are complex systemic organizations in place to keep white men down and once they learn what's happening the institutions will be broken and we can have the peace we deserve.

Why and how to regain control of your self esteem
White women aren't coming to save you anymore. They believe you are a piece of shit and that you deserve to be annihilated. They have somehow convinced themselves that they are not the same as white men. You are not going to get positive reference experiences from the media ever either (faggot white male in every single show) so you have to take control of your mental health yourself.

Cognitive Behavioural Therapy
If you seriously lack confidence you have to remind yourself that you deserve rights, the fruits of your own labour, etc. We have been deprived of basic rights for a long time as it has affected the white male self esteem heavily. Cognitive Behavioural Therapy is completely unnecessary in a good society but we are not in that. We are a serious disadvantage for gaining confidence compared to ethnics so we have to take control of this ourselves.

Physical Appearance
Dress better. It's that simple just buy clothes that look well on you and are classy. We're being outclassed by the ethnics as they are rich from their families holding wealth.

Go to the gym. This depends heavily on your body type. Dad bod is actually an attractive body type objectively. Strong but not fat. The raided out look is actually pretty gross it's not just women being stupid or insecure.

If you are good looking enough your physical appearance can carry you most of the way to confidence in my opinion but I've never experienced being a Chad so I could be wrong here and you'll have to work cognitively on yourself (See cognitive behavioural therapy).

Why and how to make use of the ethnics in a way that will benefit the Chads instead of the Banking Class Jews/Boomers
The ultimate problems with why we have mass immigration is because it benefits the banking jews and passive income earners. These people are our enemy as they control the entire culture right now. It's not only the jews but anyone that relies on passive income, debt, and similar banking items that earn money from money. The working class always deserves the fruit of their labour and immigration is short term low quality labour contrary to what people say. Making good products is an art rather than just repetitive motions that ethics are best at.

However this is about women not about economics but you have to understand that our culture is attacked in order to make money so they are intertwined so if we increase our culture immigration will naturally decrease and we will get more money in the end as well and our women will actually desire us. Men with culture will gladly attack the economic institutions for their own freedom. Uncultured men will act like sheep and bow down as they have nothing to fight for and their women will be fucked by subhumans.

Working class chads add culture while working, bankers do not, they actively subvert culture for personal gain. So we have to use ethnics for their culture alone temporarily as we don't care about their economic value, as their value does not benefit us. I talked about this above a bit but blacks have decent culture through their struggles and the rap/club scene. Whites have this as well but we have to take what we can and absorb what we can from the ethnics without actually allowing them a hand on our power.

The main point here is that we have to take from the ethnic culture what is useful and beneficial. I'm sick of false equivalencies white's use to separate themselves from the ethnics. "Oh ethnics don't wear shoes, therefore to separate myself from them I will never have bare feet", "Oh blacks fight, therefore to separate myself from them I will never get in fights", "Jews care about money, therefore I won't care about money or be selfish" and so on and so forth. This is what makes whites so fucking vanilla in reality sometimes where you have to accept what is good coming from ethnics and what isn't and once you have a culture built out of your own culture and theirs you can do away with them completely.

How does this happen? A white employer will be willing to hire a white every single time if they have a "cool vibe". Lots of employers are lame but if you mog you can take their clients regardless of what they think. If the whites no longer are considered cool then there's no benefit culturally to hire a white.

A cool restaurant owned by a white person will be full always and nobody will feel the need to visit other ethnically owned places.

Inherently based things need to be respected by white men again regardless of other qualities. For example Homelander in The Boys is a positive role model for men even though they will always try to make him gay or weak in some way. This is just Hollywood. If you see something based take it at face value and don't try to say "oh they are based and also gay therefore I can't be based and must be blue pilled". The media does this all the time, they will take something based and then add gayness to it to make whites feel like shit about their masculinity. Don't fall for it.

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This thread is a response to @6ft4's thread about the changing dating market.


I was aware of everything mentioned in that thread fully by 2022. I hesitated to post about it because it was mind boggling to me that nobody knew the actual reasoning behind the difficult dating market, especially in 2026 and I wanted to see at least someone touch on the topic to know I live around actual reasoning humans before attempting to even get into it any deeper. I've been searching heavily for someone to mention the root causes and was surprised that nothing had popped up here until @6ft4's thread. I knew Reddit would never mention or gaslight any thread about this so figured here would be the only place you would find this being mentioned.

Let me be extremely clear. The difficulty in "general" in dating comes down to the fact that white women are no longer attracted to white men in general at the current moment, or at least not enough to fuel a reasonable dating economy for white men. This fuels ethnics to aim for white women instead of their own women which in the ends causes less relationships for both ethnics and whites because the ethnics are refusing to date their own women in hopes for a white woman.

The result of this is white men going for Asian females. This is the biggest cope of all time as they are not what the white men want contrary to coping white Male idiots. Also when the statistics dropped for the interracial babies born, white women are interracially having babies more than white men. That's not even including hookup culture which is drastically stacked against white men.

Before getting to the solution we have to dig even deeper into the problem than the previous thread. Most of that thread was correct and blackpilled but I have to blackpill us even further to even be able to get us whites to a red-pilled place. Let me also be very clear: This take and my solution will benefit white men alone. If you're an ethnic and having dating troubles I don't care about you even remotely and this thread will be of no benefit to you either way.

Me Personally:

White Mid-Tier Normie. I would be Chad-Lite easily but I'm 5'9. I have a good looking face and proportions so I still look aesthetic but of course at 5'9 you'll be in a difficult spot no matter what. I mention this because any ethnic will be biased heavily on their takes so I'm letting you know beforehand that I have no reason to lie at all and the solution below will benefit me directly. I'm on tinder and my matches are pretty high quality honestly, not Stacy-Lite but a lot of HTN women. One of the last woman I slept with was a legit 9/10. @Clavicular would rate her lower based on his rating scales but she was very good looking.

What white women are looking for and why it doesn't benefit white men anymore:

Emotional Intelligence:

Women do actually care about emotional intelligence. However the things that allow emotional intelligence to be expressed naturally are heavily against white men in modern society. The two things that lead to the outward expression of emotional intelligence are strong internal motivating factors, security, and self worth or strong external motivating factors, security, and self worth. Having these intrinsic or extrinsic factors in check will naturally lead to confidence so for all practical purposes we can consider emotional intelligence = confidence.

Ethnics inherently have security within their own culture because their culture is not valued as highly as whites and therefore they are not "under attack" in the same way that whites are. Whites do not have a culture separate from themselves because everyone is always trying to take what the whites have. This is what also fuels the "whites have no culture" idea that people always have. It's not just this that leads to the lack of culture (as I'll explain later) but this is a big part of it.

Mind of an Ethnic:
"If things don't work out for me in dating white women then I will simply date my own and therefore I am happy and secure either way"

Mind of a White Man:
"If things don't work out for me I will have to actively leave my own people and date another race entirely"
Therefore: Ethnics have the option for both intrinsic and extrinsic motivation, Whites have only the option for intrinsic as there is no "better culture" with better women for us to look forward to if our own women abandon us we're left to rot while we are replaced by people that hate us and want to see us fail.

This is destroying the white male mind fundamentally to the point where the only white males left with "Emotional Intelligence" are the oofy doofy losers who would literally walk into a burning building without noticing. If they even consider intellectually what is happening in the world around them they will lose their oofy doofy childlike charm and have to start working toward the red pill or things will get so bad that they will have to start red-pilling eventually regardless. Some white men are just built for the oofy doofy life so even if they noticed it wouldn't affect them the same as MTN men. The sight of seeing your women actively trying to hate on you and fucking a subhuman is devastating honestly to a reasonably aware white male after awhile. Most whites just stop going to the club to avoid having to deal with the issue.

Height:

Height in general is highest among whites as a whole as they are the tallest, but if you were to just take height into account as many women are doing now the results will always be more ethnics with white females and more white males forced into dating ethnics because not all whites are taller than all ethnics.

Face used to be a reflection of your personality and more respected and attractive to women, however a good personality in general has heavily under attack for whites as a lot of their personality was based around in group preference and expressing. Modern personalities accepted by women are primarily just going with the flow and taking things easy. The true mogger personalities are gone for the most part so that's why personality is mainly a meme now and why height is taking over so heavily (women have always liked height but now more than ever).

Culture:

White culture always looks the most based when there's an exclusionary element to it. One of the fundamental laws of life is that anything that provides a benefit will ultimately be seeked out and attempted to be taken by those around you (water). When white men allow other people into their culture it strongly degrades the whites in the white culture even if the "total" cultural appeal goes up because nobody respects something that is being actively taken advantage of. The "caring" culture of whites is inherently backfiring on us and making us look weak (water). This reflects more negatively on the men than the women and because the "total" culture is going up women don't care at all (Black music has helped music in the West make better music for example) as their value doesn't go down for looking caring and their own men are still attracted to them.

This would be all find and well but it's difficult for white men to skin-suit their way into this music culture. Yes there are white rappers and yes Eminem was lyrically the best, but the "Down and Dirty" aspects of rap don't fit well for white men as we inherently look like idiots rapping even if we're the best at it. Machine Gun Kelly had the best attempt at white mumble rapping on his "Hotel Diablo" with it's elements of the darker rock and roll aspects that whites mog in but it still doesn't sound as good as something like xxxtentacion was or similar rappers.

Whites in general look best and strongest when they are at war or when they are the leaders of movements. A black leader is ultimately a joke because of the black nature alone. Lots of people say that blacks look more natural when physically asserting their dominance but it's actually not true. Any black that asserts dominance always looks like he's chimping out and can't be taken seriously. When an African leader attempts to rile up their masses it's legitimately cringe, versus when Hitler speaks it pierces your veins as the white voice carries further and penetrates deeper psychologically and when you're white there's no "mask" like a black has slightly always hiding in their skin regardless of what they are doing.

This comes into play in the music scene as well. Hollywood ultimately is best for whites it's just that modern Hollywood is controlled by the banks (I don't want to lose you guys on the conspiracy aspects of this but Hollywood is legitimately controlled) and actually aims to make white men look weaker, as opposed to music where whites actually just are worse in some areas.

If whites could further their movement into rap with a Machine Gun Kelly Hotel Diablo style of music we could slowly take back the club scene but whites in general have other things to do than make music. Clubbing to a slightly darker club environment like you see in the scenes in the Matrix where he meets trinity (The song that was playing was Dragula - Rob Zombies) can only be done if red-pilled otherwise it just feels autistic.

Example songs where whites have a potential to mog in the club scene if they could blend things correctly and not fall too deeply into metal where it's autistic to dance to:

- El Diablo - MGK
- Floor 13 - MGK
- Undead - Hollywood Undead
- 44 more - Logic
- Just Like Johnny - Redferrin
- White Horse - Chris Stapleton
- Pop the Trunk - Yelawolf
- Dope - Yelawolf
- Daddy's Lambo - Yelawolf

White men have to lead the way on this front where it's more natural for whites to vibe to this than blacks whereas the modern mumble rap culture is a bit more natural for blacks. Note it's still easy to dance to black music and I really like black music (regretfully) it's just not as based when you're not part of the race that created the music, as that gives you an enormous extra halo.

The pills and where whites inherently fit into them:

One question for whites would be "Why don't they just kick all of the ethnics out".

It's a good question but also requires a lot of explanation. Besides the main driving force of economics and the benefits for banks to have a diverse economy, white cultures are different from other cultures in that they have "stripped" away some of their culture in order to make machines and excel in an industrial society. This causes a rift amongst the white people so that there is no longer "one" white frame of mind anymore. Amongst whites you naturally have white pillers, black pillers, blue pillers, and - lastly and extremely rare - actual red pillers.

All ethnics are inherently blue pilled by nature. I don't care about "muh I have this friend who is so different from other blacks and is a red piller just like me". No. You can never be red pilled as a black because you don't understand what it means to actually have to defend yourself and your way of life from attack without being able to resort to war against the powerful bankers, which is almost impossible. The "apparent" red pilled ethnics are worse than all other blue pilled ethnics as they attempt to trick stupid white pilled or blue pilled whites into thinking they are the same but they never are. All of the prominent black figured will attempt to gain a foothold in white culture and then brown the culture with their inherently subhuman views. Even the best of them. Barack Obama, Lewis Hamilton, Jarome Iginla (Canadian black hockey player), are all snakes that will take what they can and then try to brown the culture. I've seen them all support blacks rioting in white neighbourhoods and destroying communities.

White pilled whites are more in line with the blue pillers almost always. They're always learning but never coming to any knowledge of the truth. You can't convince these ones of the red pill as they are always so far up their own ass in useless information and white pilled ideas about the world that they are inherently against any red piller always. These are corporate normies almost always. Think of any skinny fitness enthusiast who goes on about how beneficial the gym is and yet has never hit the gym.

Blue pilled whites are guys like Shane Gillis that "dwell in and ignorantly revile in their own self hatred" OR just are oblivious to life in general. Think Shane Gillis. People will call him based but he's just a loser blue piller.

Black pilled whites are aware of the world around them but haven't figured out the solution yet. Think the germans prior to World War II and now. And any western male nowadays for that matter who has taken the time to think about the current predicament they find themselves in. Usually the incels hit the blackpill first but it's spreading to all white males slowly now as things are getting worse.

Red pilled whites. The red pilled whites almost never exist anymore. I'll go further into how to get to this step below as the solution is to become a red pilled white male and the problems you are going to face before final ascension and how once ascended you will no longer face resistance anymore. A lot of people picture red pill as modern PUA culture and black pill as looksmaxxing but really it's deeper than that. The black pill is where we are now. Looksmaxxing is still a form of white pilling.

So whenever the time comes to get rid of ethnics all of the ethnics pool together because they are inherently blue pilled, and the whites are split amongst themselves being of different minds.

What is a red pilled white male and why are they so rare?

Red pilled white men are fundamentally shielded from any of the aforementioned problems listed above. It's a psychological state of mind that creates a "ward" around you that separates and segregates those who want to take what is yours. It's just basically being a complete mogger. Modern media is always trying to bring white men down because they become more controllable and reliant on employers and money from bankers. Black men haven't been useful since slavery when modern machinery was invented and they no longer had the ability to gain profit for their masters so there's no point in subjecting them to propaganda anymore.

Why are red-pilled men so rare?

- White men didn't have to be top tier to have a fulfilling life in the past. They could get a looksmatched white woman with minimal effort and having an attractive woman wasn't as important because people saw their fellow kinfolk as similar to them and took pride in their success as well as their own. MEANING if Tommy didn't get Stacy then Chad could take her instead and Tommy was fine with what he got for a wife because societies were more mutually beneficial than now. In 2026 if we can't attract our own women our race is going extinct/be taken over for no good reason. We'll have been beaten with no fight. Not only that we won't even be going extinct together, only the men will be extinguished, the women we loved are going to carry on pleasing the subhumans that "fought" against us.

- Red pilled men have to accept that they will be mostly alone in their views. Most conversations you have will be virtually the opposite of what you believe in and your ego would have protected you from requiring you to be red pilled in the past. Luckily now the red pill is becoming more common in white men and you don't have to be as alone in your views. You likely had to become red pilled only because of prior life experiences not setting you up for success in one way or another.

- As white men are slowly starting to be attacked they always start with the best looking or most successful men and work their way down from there. The elites are toppled first (Jews took down the Aristocracy prior to WW1 in all European nations). This is a small portion of the population and so the white males don't complain as it benefits them. Then the top tier males are attacked and slowly pushed down by modern media (started happening after WWII). The majority of white men are not good looking and so they are fine with this too as the top tier men are taken out of the competition and blue pilled LTN white men are able to pull white women still (White normies still attractive until around 2020). Then they bring in the full brunt of force on the white man in general and it forces an entire people to be red-pilled. This is how it starts to happen all at once. The white blue pilled normies are still pulling to a certain degree but they are not going to experience a true club life like a Chad had access to before as that has been given over to the ethnics.

What about white women. What is their problem exactly? Are they praying on the downfall of their own men?

Women have been benefitting from increasing immigration ever since it began. Mass immigration led to women being bolstered up through equality initiatives in multiple ways. When immigrants come in employers are forced to pick between bringing another woman into the company or an ethnic. The white employer will then always pick a white female as the employers didn't like ethnics inherently so the ethnic was always a poison berry for the women initially. Namely if you don't pick me you'll get this (ethnic).

Now that almost all women are in the workplace the ethnics essentially worship them and are against "white men" the same as they are due to the white woman's love for feminism. Feminism allows women to control their own white men and allows them to have their men bent to their own will. They enjoy this for obvious reasons and it was never really a problem for men until recently where white women actually started deliberately hating their own men and they are no longer using ethnics for leverage but actually fulfillment separate from the white men.

This is different from what the women used Ethnics for initially. Initially ethics were only a there for women to attack their own men with from the female perspective. Namely "If you yell at me I'll go get raw dogged by 10 black guys". So men had to tip toe around women to avoid this from happening. This tip-toe'ing around eventually degraded the white mans mental health to the point where he was no longer getting any emotional support from the white woman AT ALL and lived being silenced by his own women. After this started happening women resented their men for being so weak and having seen the weak men they no longer even cared for their men anymore. They got the ick from they own men and figured maybe their men are just inherently insecure and have always been reliant on women and without them they truly will stand as they really are - weak insecure pussies. They see their own men as weak and feminine unlike blacks who are able to be men inherently without relying on their women. The truth is the women are misguided as always. They've never experienced being hated for no reason and black men are not hated by their own women like white women are so their findings are false. Black men would be 10x weaker if attacked as heavily as white men.

However, even after this realization will become apparent that white men are not actually weak (if it has not already). Women are seeing men as "vanilla", uninteresting, uncultured because of the mass takeover of culture that has taken place in the white mens temporary absence. Women can only respond to what they see and all they can see is their men are vanilla pussies that aren't worthy of their time even though they caused it.

When white men become red pilled or at least take their culture back the women will naturally follow suit. Do not listen to what women say about ethnics being inherently attractive in any way. They only act this way because they are emboldened by the media.

Solutions

Why and how modern feminism has to be destroyed

What started as a way for women to gain control and out of the household has manifested into spoiled white women who have no idea what is going on in the world. Their age of maturity even at 40 is somewhere likely around a 21 year old males maturity level. Both their emotional intelligence and technical intelligence on subjects is extremely low. They've been convinced that reading a textbook has made them smart so there's no use trying to argue with them. They have no interest in politics or reaching a common ground solution as they are currently the ones in power. Similar to men before feminism began. It is difficult to destroy feminism because we are literally being replaced right now and we don't have the leverage to bargain with because they are literally too stupid to even know what they are doing.

The only thing to know is that a feminist womans ideas and values cannot be taken at face value because they aren't even following their own rules so it has to be abolished. It wasn't all for nothing that they had feminism. It's going to bring about higher quality men in general but it's gone way way too far. They've gotten into the workplace, their men are respecting them, and they are on an equal playing field to us and we'll leave that in place.

You have to not be gaslitten by feminists anymore and take nothing they say at face value because the more you listen to them the less time you spend on yourself and the more you'll feel inadequate and attacked.

Take common feminist views:

They say men are lazy and so they won't have sex with them until they start doing household work. Ethnics are the laziest slobs on the entire planet and they still fuck ethnics. The only time ethnics work hard is when they are promised salvation in the whites land and access to the white women.

They say they will not respect men who do not respect women. All ethnics do not respect their own women.

They say that they do not like the feeling of being "used" by men. Ethnics inherently only like white women for their white skin and attractive features so they are 100% being used by ethnics compared to white men who value them inherently as equals.

They say that they will not date men that aren't reliable and accountable. Ethnics are the biggest traitors of all time. They left a land that they belonged in because they arrogantly thought they were superior to their own people. They will leave their own land and the Western nation the moment things go downhill so their are the exact opposite of accountable.

Feminism is about gender equality but many feminists are now in with the equality crowd in terms of race as well. Feminists will say they hate racists. Ethnics are the most racist of all as they hate their own people and love white women, therefore they are the most racist. White men only have in group preference. Never accept that you have to "not be racist" it is the single most idiotic thing you can possibly believe as a white man because being non racist only negatively affects you in reality.

Some people say "Oh I didn't create the things my ancestors did so why should I have white pride?" It doesn't fucking matter. You have something of value that others desire. Yourself, and your women. The definition of pride is realization that you have something that it desired. It doesn't matter whether you "earned it". The fact of the matter is you have qualities in being white that others are desiring and you have no choice but to be proud and protect those inherent qualities otherwise others will come and try to take your positive qualities from you. This isn't a blackpill btw, there are complex systemic organizations in place to keep white men down and once they learn what's happening the institutions will be broken and we can have the peace we deserve.

Why and how to regain control of your self esteem
White women aren't coming to save you anymore. They believe you are a piece of shit and that you deserve to be annihilated. They have somehow convinced themselves that they are not the same as white men. You are not going to get positive reference experiences from the media ever either (faggot white male in every single show) so you have to take control of your mental health yourself.

Cognitive Behavioural Therapy
If you seriously lack confidence you have to remind yourself that you deserve rights, the fruits of your own labour, etc. We have been deprived of basic rights for a long time as it has affected the white male self esteem heavily. Cognitive Behavioural Therapy is completely unnecessary in a good society but we are not in that. We are a serious disadvantage for gaining confidence compared to ethnics so we have to take control of this ourselves.

Physical Appearance
Dress better. It's that simple just buy clothes that look well on you and are classy. We're being outclassed by the ethnics as they are rich from their families holding wealth.

Go to the gym. This depends heavily on your body type. Dad bod is actually an attractive body type objectively. Strong but not fat. The raided out look is actually pretty gross it's not just women being stupid or insecure.

If you are good looking enough your physical appearance can carry you most of the way to confidence in my opinion but I've never experienced being a Chad so I could be wrong here and you'll have to work cognitively on yourself (See cognitive behavioural therapy).

Why and how to make use of the ethnics in a way that will benefit the Chads instead of the Banking Class Jews/Boomers
The ultimate problems with why we have mass immigration is because it benefits the banking jews and passive income earners. These people are our enemy as they control the entire culture right now. It's not only the jews but anyone that relies on passive income, debt, and similar banking items that earn money from money. The working class always deserves the fruit of their labour and immigration is short term low quality labour contrary to what people say. Making good products is an art rather than just repetitive motions that ethics are best at.

However this is about women not about economics but you have to understand that our culture is attacked in order to make money so they are intertwined so if we increase our culture immigration will naturally decrease and we will get more money in the end as well and our women will actually desire us. Men with culture will gladly attack the economic institutions for their own freedom. Uncultured men will act like sheep and bow down as they have nothing to fight for and their women will be fucked by subhumans.

Working class chads add culture while working, bankers do not, they actively subvert culture for personal gain. So we have to use ethnics for their culture alone temporarily as we don't care about their economic value, as their value does not benefit us. I talked about this above a bit but blacks have decent culture through their struggles and the rap/club scene. Whites have this as well but we have to take what we can and absorb what we can from the ethnics without actually allowing them a hand on our power.

The main point here is that we have to take from the ethnic culture what is useful and beneficial. I'm sick of false equivalencies white's use to separate themselves from the ethnics. "Oh ethnics don't wear shoes, therefore to separate myself from them I will never have bare feet", "Oh blacks fight, therefore to separate myself from them I will never get in fights", "Jews care about money, therefore I won't care about money or be selfish" and so on and so forth. This is what makes whites so fucking vanilla in reality sometimes where you have to accept what is good coming from ethnics and what isn't and once you have a culture built out of your own culture and theirs you can do away with them completely.

How does this happen? A white employer will be willing to hire a white every single time if they have a "cool vibe". Lots of employers are lame but if you mog you can take their clients regardless of what they think. If the whites no longer are considered cool then there's no benefit culturally to hire a white.

A cool restaurant owned by a white person will be full always and nobody will feel the need to visit other ethnically owned places.

Inherently based things need to be respected by white men again regardless of other qualities. For example Homelander in The Boys is a positive role model for men even though they will always try to make him gay or weak in some way. This is just Hollywood. If you see something based take it at face value and don't try to say "oh they are based and also gay therefore I can't be based and must be blue pilled". The media does this all the time, they will take something based and then add gayness to it to make whites feel like shit about their masculinity. Don't fall for it.

@nofap @thereallegend @Whatever @Brus Wane @autistic_tendencies
>Height in general is highest among whites as a whole as they are the tallest, but if you were to just take height into account as many women are doing now the results will always be more ethnics with white females and more white males forced into dating ethnics because not all whites are taller than all ethnics.

Face used to be a reflection of your personality and more respected and attractive to women, however a good personality in general has heavily under attack for whites as a lot of their personality was based around in group preference and expressing. Modern personalities accepted by women are primarily just going with the flow and taking things easy. The true mogger personalities are gone for the most part so that's why personality is mainly a meme now and why height is taking over so heavily (women have always liked height but now more than ever).


Only section I disagree with. Not even from a PSL perspective but considering most oofy doofys and ethnics are "manlets" (average height irl, stop acting like you are an actual manlet) and women are fucking them. Women are just more outspoken about it on social media rage bait but irl the only guys I see in clubs getting action are low inhib oofy doofy manlets, ethnic or white. Other than that though great write up but stop with the heightism psyop, its pushed by ethnics in general as they can't compete facially with whites
 
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white men as we inherently look like idiots rapping even if we're the best at it.
So true

I will say though: Yeat managed to pull it off. (Hes Mexican-Romanian, but white enough)

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Between 2021-2022, he was universally considered the best rapper period by everybody, including black people

He mogs Eminem / Machine Gun Kelly as well because he can actually play the part and look cool whilst being a retarded mumble rapper
 
English What GIF

Huge wall of cope

It's over for us ethnic bois
 
Where do you live that you’re seeing this? Because a lot of this just isn’t true in my experience and where I’ve lived. I was seeing quite a few upper tier white girls with ethnics a year or two ago, I was also seeing a lot with ugly/short/etc. white guys as well, I made plenty of posts about it on here. However, that stopped, it was like a trend to “give the ugly/short/ethnic guy-who’s-not-your-first-choice a chance” that ran its course. And now in 2026 most couples I see now look like brother and sister, it’s kinda weird. And actually good looking white girls (which most of this forum can’t tell) are tall HTN bare minimum, height especially really fucking matters now, this time it’s serious.

These trends can change so quickly because of social media. So foids all more or less follow each other. And couples that are mismatched on looks or race are doomed to fail. And they can learn these lessons together and move on.

I also disagree that ethnic guys only want white girls, I don’t think white guys are that attractive to ethnic girls either except for as betabuxxers. The whole “white worshipping ethnics” thing on here is exaggerated and much more about status than raw lust. Ethnics think of white people as having worse bodies, less dimorphic, less sexual, that’s not necessarily my opinion but definitely my experience that they think that.

sorry for the late reply BTW, I was self banned when you tagged me
 
Musically metal and hard electronic mogs whether it’s autistic to dance to or not. It’s the most powerful music out there because it is the most purely sub-cultural but it is sadly at the expense of expression for being aspire but also sadly subhuman. At its most mainstream Hollywood was when NIN mogged I guess.
 
its pathetic how much of a sheeps humans are its sad
 
Where do you live that you’re seeing this? Because a lot of this just isn’t true in my experience and where I’ve lived. I was seeing quite a few upper tier white girls with ethnics a year or two ago, I was also seeing a lot with ugly/short/etc. white guys as well, I made plenty of posts about it on here. However, that stopped, it was like a trend to “give the ugly/short/ethnic guy-who’s-not-your-first-choice a chance” that ran its course. And now in 2026 most couples I see now look like brother and sister, it’s kinda weird. And actually good looking white girls (which most of this forum can’t tell) are tall HTN bare minimum, height especially really fucking matters now, this time it’s serious.

These trends can change so quickly because of social media. So foids all more or less follow each other. And couples that are mismatched on looks or race are doomed to fail. And they can learn these lessons together and move on.

I also disagree that ethnic guys only want white girls, I don’t think white guys are that attractive to ethnic girls either except for as betabuxxers. The whole “white worshipping ethnics” thing on here is exaggerated and much more about status than raw lust. Ethnics think of white people as having worse bodies, less dimorphic, less sexual, that’s not necessarily my opinion but definitely my experience that they think that.

sorry for the late reply BTW, I was self banned when you tagged me
I don't think there would be a massive shift like that that shortly if I am being honest. I don't see why the theories of looks purgatory if you believed prior would be disproven now given even higher dating app fatigue. Have you changed your tune on proximity pill? Your posts used to give me hopium but it seems you have taken a different approach with it.
 
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Where do you live that you’re seeing this? Because a lot of this just isn’t true in my experience and where I’ve lived. I was seeing quite a few upper tier white girls with ethnics a year or two ago, I was also seeing a lot with ugly/short/etc. white guys as well, I made plenty of posts about it on here. However, that stopped, it was like a trend to “give the ugly/short/ethnic guy-who’s-not-your-first-choice a chance” that ran its course. And now in 2026 most couples I see now look like brother and sister, it’s kinda weird. And actually good looking white girls (which most of this forum can’t tell) are tall HTN bare minimum, height especially really fucking matters now, this time it’s serious.

These trends can change so quickly because of social media. So foids all more or less follow each other. And couples that are mismatched on looks or race are doomed to fail. And they can learn these lessons together and move on.

I also disagree that ethnic guys only want white girls, I don’t think white guys are that attractive to ethnic girls either except for as betabuxxers. The whole “white worshipping ethnics” thing on here is exaggerated and much more about status than raw lust. Ethnics think of white people as having worse bodies, less dimorphic, less sexual, that’s not necessarily my opinion but definitely my experience that they think that.

sorry for the late reply BTW, I was self banned when you tagged me
To add to my last comment I am not sure where your observations are from, imo I feel like good looking white women were never really with ethnics or subpar looking whites. In NYC I still see heaps of mtb+ foids with Kevin Nyugen soymaxxed asians, and they will be holding hands and kissing in public. I am also seeing way more robust moggers with ABG types or just dipping down to asians. Idk I still firmly believe in oofy doofy and looks purgatory and I am not sure if there would be as a drastic of a shift within the year, if anything I am seeing more of my friends my looks level getting chances and laid. My tall htn who always has done well with women seems to be struggling more with securing easy lays. I think it has to do with the ltr hypothesis
 

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