Procreating >>> Slaying.

[HarrierDuBois]

Would rather enjoy my 20’s. Definitely not “empty sex” it’s memories. Idk maybe I could just cheat on my girl

Kids cost too much money.

If you don't gain anything from it, it's empty. Let's not cope "slaying" is about the validation nothing else.

 

[SurgeryEnjoyer]

Yep, even a few years ago inceldom was about not finding a significant other, not being unable to slay.

Agreed, literally anyone is able to get a gf. The trick is getting one you find attractive and enjoy spending time with. Mtn can get a LTN gf, not what you should seek after. You shouldn't get a gf just to get one but instead because you want one

 

[longjohnmong]

Very easy to have that outlook when young, as you age you desire kids.

i'm 39

 

[Deleted member 31445]

having kids with a htb+ chadfactory should be every men's goal

 

[HarrierDuBois]

Nigga no one cares about their recent ancestors. No one remembers anyone further than their grandparents

It's about legacy.

Agreed, literally anyone is able to get a gf. The trick is getting one you find attractive and enjoy spending time with. Mtn can get a LTN gf, not what you should seek after. You shouldn't get a gf just to get one but instead because you want one

Yep, HTB minimum for me.

i'm 39

Sour grapes.

 

[Debetro]

Slaying is a cope for narcies and sex addicts, validation from being in a ltr with someone that's good looking is 10 times more fulfilling.

If only this part was true

The reality is that you'll be with a good looking woman for 5-10 years, after that you will have to somehow trick yourself to put up with someone who is no longer attractive, for the rest of your life. Exceptions exist bur this is the reality that can be seen irl.

 

[optimisticzoomer]

Very easy to have that outlook when young, as you age you desire kids.

Only if you're ugly or have a really boring life and don't know what else to fill it with other than raising kids. Which doesn't make you happier (actually studies show the opposite) but distracts you and fills up the time. If you looksmax and have good career, hobbies, travel, slaying etc, you will never desire kids

 

[Deleted member 9003]

why 27 specifically lmao

Like 6 years after college. 30 year old women are disgusting

 

[SurgeryEnjoyer]

Yep, HTB minimum for me.

Same, after my 2nd surgery round i hope to reach htn (true htn not dalit standards) so i can bag one.

 

[HarrierDuBois]

If only this part was true

The reality is that you'll be with a good looking woman for 5-10 years, after that you will have to somehow trick yourself to put up with someone who is no longer attractive, for the rest of your life. Exceptions exist bur this is the reality that can be seen irl.

You underestimate the power of bonding.

 

[HarrierDuBois]

Only if you're ugly or have a really boring life and don't know what else to fill it with other than raising kids. Which doesn't make you happier (actually studies show the opposite) but distracts you and fills up the time. If you looksmax and have good career, hobbies, travel, slaying etc, you will never desire kids

That only goes on for so long, then at 40 or 50 it's done. You are alone and got nothing.

 

[optimisticzoomer]

It's about legacy.

You'll be dead, who cares? Never understood this mindset. The only thing that matters is while we're alive. Also, any old NPC normie can have kids, having kids isn't exactly leaving a legacy. That would be done by achieving something great or going down in history some way or another. No one remembers or knows their ancestors as I said, and to the world, you're irrelevant. Having kids is no legacy

 

[Debetro]

Like 6 years after college. 30 year old women are disgusting

At 20 they already need to permafraud with makeup jfl. But I mean, it's normal, there ones who hit puberty at fucking 8 or 9 yo, so they are already fully developed by 13/14, which in consequence means her 20s will already be post prime

 

[optimisticzoomer]

That only goes on for so long, then at 40 or 50 it's done. You are alone and got nothing.

Ok then get a partner. You still don't need kids. That achieves nothing

 

[Clown Show]

Honestly knowing human tendencies doesn't really change my view on ltrs. I just know that if I was uglier, shorter and poorer, she wouldn't initially show interest in me. Nothing more

It absolutely changes my view on ltrs.

It shows that there is no such thing as "love" and that she actually doesn't genuinely care about you. It is all conditional and brutal. Had you been a bit uglier, shorter or poorer, all those nice moments would have never happened, even if you had 100x times better personality, character and donated to charity 500x times more.

 

[HarrierDuBois]

You'll be dead, who cares? Never understood this mindset. The only thing that matters is while we're alive. Also, any old NPC normie can have kids, having kids isn't exactly leaving a legacy. That would be done by achieving something great or going down in history some way or another. No one remembers or knows their ancestors as I said, and to the world, you're irrelevant. Having kids is no legacy

It is the only legacy, every person who ever did something remarkable had ancestors.

 

[Zer0/∞]

How many baby mommas you got?

It’s not a slay if you didn’t impregnate her.

if she was truly attracted to you, she would want you breed her and pass your genes to her offspring + condom sex is for cucks!

looksmax.org

 

[HarrierDuBois]

It absolutely changes my view on ltrs.

It shows that there is no such thing as "love" and that she actually doesn't genuinely care about you. It is all conditional and brutal. Had you been a bit uglier, shorter or poorer, all those nice moments would have never happened, even if you had 100x times better personality, character and donated to charity 500x times more.

Women want good genes for their children, don't see how this is brutal.

 

[SurgeryEnjoyer]

If only this part was true

The reality is that you'll be with a good looking woman for 5-10 years, after that you will have to somehow trick yourself to put up with someone who is no longer attractive, for the rest of your life. Exceptions exist bur this is the reality that can be seen irl.

Totally agree and get your point, however most people grow up and separate fantasies from real life. If you have good memories with her the emotional attachment can make up for the decline in physical appearance. If you keep on slaying at the end you will feel empty and have nothing left (at least for me), if you ltr you will fill fulfilled but with someone that you're not as attracted to as you were before. There is no escape so just take the less dogshit path theory

 

[gribsufer1]

Agreed I'm geomaxxing, telling them a false name, then going back to the US without them so they can raise my children. I'll do it as often as my finances afford. I'll make as many as I can. Leave those little fucks to rot in whatever shithole country I found their mother in!

Genghis khan shit innit

what the fuck is the point of that your supposed to raise the child with your beliefs not lwt them become whores for jews

 

[Debetro]

That only goes on for so long, then at 40 or 50 it's done. You are alone and got nothing.

That's a pure lookspill, people desire to ltr and having kids as they age because they are no longer as young and as attractive, neither they can do the same activities that come from being young and good looking, so their only cope left is having kids

 

[Clown Show]

Women want good genes for their children, don't see how this is brutal.

It's brutal if you don't have a good genes and you are basically excluded from main thing of human existence.

What is your rating?

 

[HarrierDuBois]

That's a pure lookspill, people desire to ltr and having kids as they age because they are no longer as young and as attractive, neither they can do the same activities that come from being young and good looking, so their only cope left is having kids

The point is all of those things are distractions from the true beauty of this world and the second your SMV fades those things disappear but your children do not.

 

[HarrierDuBois]

It's brutal if you don't have a good genes and you are basically excluded from main thing of human existence.

What is your rating?

Fairly average.

 

[0hMan]

Exactly. Stupidest shit in the world is when people clown on Chico saying "muh he can't slay anymore" like he doesn't have a wife and children. Insane how narrow-minded and low IQ this forum can be sometimes.

 

[Deleted member 9003]

why 27 specifically lmao

Actually 30 tbh. That’s when being single is looked down upon. Can get away with it if chad tho obv.

 

[HarrierDuBois]

Exactly. Stupidest shit in the world is when people clown on Chico saying "muh he can't slay anymore" like he doesn't have a wife and children. Insane how narrow-minded and low IQ this forum can be sometimes.

He lived a great life, had fun in his youth, got married to a beautiful woman who loves him, and got beautiful children that will grow up in a loving nuclear family. He played the game how it's supposed to be played.

 

[optimisticzoomer]

It is the only legacy, every person who ever did something remarkable had ancestors.

And? What does that mean? Having kids is nothing special, every normie is doing that. And they all remain irrelevant. Yet all cope as though they're doing something. As I said, once you're dead, nothing matters. But the only legacy there possibly could be is the world remembering you or your name, which doesnt happen just by having kids. It's a cope to pretend as though your life has meaning or you can do something special. In reality, it makes no difference, and it's a sign of wisdom and not caving in to the general persuasion by not having kids. A lifelong bachelor or man with a partner and no kids is far more admirable than an NPC with a family of 4

 

[Deleted member 21661]

Actually 30 tbh. That’s when being single is looked down upon. Can get away with it if chad tho obv.

Yep I just wanna enjoy my 20s. Then turn 30 and marry a foid much younger, have kids. That way when you're old too she looks young.

 

[Clown Show]

Fairly average.

If you was ugly or short, this thread would have been an ER threat instead and not some dilemma if you should slay or ltr.

When you are ugly or short, none of that shit happens.

 

[HarrierDuBois]

And? What does that mean? Having kids is nothing special, every normie is doing that. And they all remain irrelevant. Yet all cope as though they're doing something. As I said, once you're dead, nothing matters. But the only legacy there possibly could be is the world remembering you or your name, which doesnt happen just by having kids. It's a cope to pretend as though your life has meaning or you can do something special. In reality, it makes no difference, and it's a sign of wisdom and not caving in to the general persuasion by not having kids. A lifelong bachelor or man with a partner and no kids is far more admirable than an NPC with a family of 4

Objectively delusional. Will not keep this discussion going as it's not going anywhere.

 

[HarrierDuBois]

If you was ugly or short, this thread would have been an ER threat instead and not some dilemma if you should slay or ltr.

When you are ugly or short, none of that shit happens.

Yes and subhumans shall fade, the way of the world.

 

[gribsufer1]

Exactly. Stupidest shit in the world is when people clown on Chico saying "muh he can't slay anymore" like he doesn't have a wife and children. Insane how narrow-minded and low IQ this forum can be sometimes.

what type of girl would u marry?

 

[optimisticzoomer]

Objectively delusional. Will not keep this discussion going as it's not going anywhere.

Stop coping. Final point to leave on is that having kids doesn't make you special, doesn't improve your life, and isn't something anyone is going to remember you for, so isn't a legacy.

 

[Clown Show]

And? What does that mean? Having kids is nothing special, every normie is doing that. And they all remain irrelevant. Yet all cope as though they're doing something. As I said, once you're dead, nothing matters. But the only legacy there possibly could be is the world remembering you or your name, which doesnt happen just by having kids. It's a cope to pretend as though your life has meaning or you can do something special. In reality, it makes no difference, and it's a sign of wisdom and not caving in to the general persuasion by not having kids. A lifelong bachelor or man with a partner and no kids is far more admirable than an NPC with a family of 4

Your body's main goal is to reproduce, it is so deeply hardwired that way that if you would remove all concepts and copes from your mind, the only thing that would be left is desire to breed.

If you are failing at that goal by being an incel and not having sex, you will start experiencing depression and other negative emotions.

Logically you know that there is nothing special about having kids and that foids are trash, but you can't go against biology.

Sooner or later you will experience misery and loneliness from not having kids, no escaping that.

 

[longjohnmong]

Sour grapes.

I was in a relationship until I was 29, at no point did I want kids. And wanting kids is different than wanting to continue your bloodline anyway. I said I didn't care about my bloodline. It's just a stupid concept.

 

[HarrierDuBois]

I was in a relationship until I was 29, at no point did I want kids. And wanting kids is different than wanting to continue your bloodline anyway. I said I didn't care about my bloodline. It's just a stupid concept.

It's not a stupid concept, you would not be here if not for it.

 

[DelonLover1999]

Temporarily slaying perhaps but nuclear family structure is ideal for when you decide to procreate. That way you get good kids in many aspects.

slaying after you get married is a just a dumb fantasy. ppl think that living like don draper mogs but in reality he was just traumatized and suffering from depression most of the show

 

[optimisticzoomer]

Your body's main goal is to reproduce, it is so deeply hardwired that way that if you would remove all concepts and copes from your mind, the only thing that would be left is desire to breed.

If you are failing at that goal by being an incel and not having sex, you will start experiencing depression and other negative emotions.

Logically you know that there is nothing special about having kids and that foids are trash, but you can't go against biology.

Sooner or later you will experience misery and loneliness from not having kids, no escaping that.

Biologically we are designed to have sex, and the product of that is often kids. We aren't biologically meant to raise kids, so your last point isn't true. And to my first point, we have condoms and other contraception. So we can have the pleasures of sex without a baby popping out. So we aren't missing out on any instinctual lifestyle by not having kids, as we still have sex, and the idea of a family life is not a biological phenomenon

 

[Debetro]

You underestimate the power of bonding.

It's true but bonding tends to moticeable disappear aprox. after the first 5 years of ltr. After that you'll just try to reject your instinctive urges to move on and find a new female to impregnate.

Bonding is very important but only in the first five years of ltr, to increase the probability of survival of the offspring. When the bonding considerably disappears, the offspring would already be 3/4 years old, surviving the most harsh and deadly stage.

It absolutely changes my view on ltrs.

It shows that there is no such thing as "love" and that she actually doesn't genuinely care about you. It is all conditional and brutal. Had you been a bit uglier, shorter or poorer, all those nice moments would have never happened, even if you had 100x times better personality, character and donated to charity 500x times more.

Yep, it's the brutal reality, but it's been a while since I accepted it and I'm doing good rn. The only big difference is that now I know that "love" as the media portrays it doesn't exit, well, exists but only for attractive people. And also know every type of relationship is superficial. If I could have an ltr rn I would.

 

[HarrierDuBois]

slaying after you get married is a just a dumb fantasy. ppl think that living like don draper mogs but in reality he was just traumatized and suffering from depression most of the show

Yep, he was literally mentally broken and too stunted to face reality so he legit coped by slaying.

 

[longjohnmong]

It's not a stupid concept, you would not be here if not for it.

Animals don't have a concept of bloodline, they don't seem to have any problem reproducing.

 

[HarrierDuBois]

Biologically we are designed to have sex, and the product of that is often kids. We aren't biologically meant to raise kids, so your last point isn't true. And to my first point, we have condoms and other contraception. So we can have the pleasures of sex without a baby popping out. So we aren't missing out on any instinctual lifestyle by not having kids, as we still have sex, and the idea of a family life is not a biological phenomenon

You have never held your firstborn child in your arms and felt that ethereal connection.

 

[optimisticzoomer]

You have never held your firstborn child in your arms and felt that ethereal connection.

Neither have you. And that doesnt exist. Again, having kids is a cope, but not a very good one. One you think will benefit you more than it does

 

[HarrierDuBois]

It's true but bonding tends to moticeable disappear aprox. after the first 5 years of ltr. After that you'll just try to reject your instinctive urges to move on and find a new female to impregnate.

Just sounds like commitment issues.

 

[HarrierDuBois]

Neither have you. And that doesnt exist. Again, having kids is a cope, but not a very good one. One you think will benefit you more than it does

The bond between a parent and their child definitely exists.

 

[Deleted member 31887]

Having a daughter is cucked, you are essentially putting energy into her just for her to one day get ravaged by another man. Does that seem worth it?

 

[HarrierDuBois]

Having a daughter is cucked, you are essentially putting energy into her just for her to one day get ravaged by another man. Does that seem worth it?

Son only, hence why I refuse to take roids.

 

[Debetro]

slaying after you get married is a just a dumb fantasy. ppl think that living like don draper mogs but in reality he was just traumatized and suffering from depression most of the show

 

[optimisticzoomer]

The bond between a parent and their child definitely exists.

No different to the bond between a man and a pet. The bond between mother and child may be stronger, but that's because mothers across most of the animal kingdom give birth to and raise their offspring. Same with humans. Us males aren't meant to. We impregnate and move along naturally