Proof Jesus is God and Destroying the Muslim arguments with Their False Prophet (come get some)

Yeah I know you have nothing to say.
Didn't even glimpse, next time you do a debate make sure you have arguments and not just ramblings. You lost this time, better luck next time, I guess
 
Didn't even glimpse, next time you do a debate make sure you have arguments and not just ramblings. You lost this time, better luck next time, I guess
Sure you didn't, that's why you keep quoting me and writting ramblings in a lack of arguments.
You lost at the very beginning, because you are a heretic.
Aving low iq, comperehetnion skills of a literal brick dosen't help you either.
 
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Sure you didn't, that's why you keep quoting me and writting ramblings in a lack of arguments.
No read again. Learn to debate when you do it next time. You got humiliated in this one. It's over for your church that worships satan
 
No read again. Learn to debate when you do it next time. You got humiliated in this one. It's over for your church that worships satan
My church will be alive when your "church" gets turned into a mosque of your muzzie allies. It will be in less than a century for that to happen.
Writting ramblings in lack of argumented responses means you lost in discussion.
 
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My church will be alive when your "church" gets turned into a mosque of your muzzie allies. It will be in less than a century for that to happen.
Writting ramblings in lack of argumented responses means you lost in discussion.
Your church will be "alive" together with Islam because in the end times the antichrist will rule the world as it is written in scripture. He will only leave the false church and try to destroy the real one. Catholics and Muslims worship the antichrist. The Catholic church is an organization filthier than a pig farm
 
Your church will be "alive" together with Islam because in the end times the antichrist will rule the world as it is written in scripture. He will only leave the false church and try to destroy the real one. Catholics and Muslims worship the antichrist. The Catholic church is an organization filthier than a pig farm
Your countries look like a pig farm boyo, because your nerdic faces literally resemble pigs. Only in this farm it will soon be muzzies in role of a farmer. You guys compliment each other well.
Entire work of an ottoman cocksucker Luther will be erased from the face of the planet in less than a century.
 
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Your countries look like a pig farm boyo, because your nerdic faces literally resemble pigs. Only in this farm it will soon be muzzies in role of a farmer. You guys compliment each other well.
Entire work of an ottoman cocksucker Luther will be erased from the face of the planet in less than a century.
You're a seething little polak. It's a shame how angry you are when you're being humiliated
 
You're a seething little polak. It's a shame how angry you are when you're being humiliated
You just got humiliated and keep comming for more, although I guess autism is inherent to your race so you can't really recognize that.
 
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You just got humiliated and keep comming for more, although I guess autism is inherent to your race so you can't really recognize that.
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Fastest growing religion by conversion, it's over for you :feelshaha::forcedsmile:
 
Wrong again phaggot, your muzzie allies are the fastest growing religion in the world.
What you shown is a minor sect insignificant on a large scale.
They're the fastest breeding religion and the fastest growing overall. You're too dumb to understand I'm talking about CONVERSION which is what matters the most cuz people are willingly choosing it and not just born into it
 
They're the fastest breeding religion and the fastest growing overall. You're too dumb to understand I'm talking about CONVERSION which is what matters the most cuz people are willingly choosing it and not just born into it
Fastest growing by conversion among nerdics who have 1 child on average, catholicism is fastest growing in Africa and projections aren't bright for heretics.
 
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Fastest growing by conversion among nerdics who have 1 child on average, catholicism is fastest growing in Africa and projections aren't bright for heretics.
Fastest growing everywhere, in the whole world. And again you show how retarded you are, I give you a million arguments and you cope with bs. What can you expect from a dumb polak catholic :feelskek:
 
Fastest growing everywhere, in the whole world. And again you show how retarded you are, I give you a million arguments and you cope with bs. What can you expect from a dumb polak catholic :feelskek:
I already told you that your muzzie allies are the fastest growing religion in the world and catholics are the fastest growing religion in Africa where it matters most.
Again, comprehension of a brick.
 
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I already told you that your muzzie allies are the fastest growing religion in the world and catholics are the fastest growing religion in Africa where it matters most.
Read what I wrote, homosexual stanist. You're a retard. Islam is the fastest growing OVERALL (ITS BECAUSE THEY HAVE 10 BABIES) protestantism is the fastest growing by CONVERSION BECAUSE IT'S THE BEST AND PEOPLE ARE CHOOSING IT.

you have 0 iq and you cant understand something very simple. You have no arguments. Satan has blinded your eyes, REPENT! May those catholic demons leave you in the name of Jesus
 
Read what I wrote, homosexual stanist. You're a retard. Islam is the fastest growing OVERALL (ITS BECAUSE THEY HAVE 10 BABIES) protestantism is the fastest growing by CONVERSION BECAUSE IT'S THE BEST AND PEOPLE ARE CHOOSING IT.

you have 0 iq, Satan has blinded your eyes, REPENT! May those catholic demons leave you in the name of Jesus
Your nations are champions of homosexualism. You invented gay parades and LGTBQ+ is your main export product.
You are wrong since your muzzie allies are the fastest growing religion in both terms Conversion rate and via birthrates.
You literally are dumber than a brick.
 
Your nations are champions of homosexualism. You invented gay parades and LGTBQ+ is your main export product.
You are wrong since your muzzie allies are the fastest growing religion in both terms Conversion rate and via birthrates.
You literally are dumber than a brick.
I show sources and all you do is seethe. I won yesterday, today I win again. Amen! It's over for Satanists like you
 
I show sources and all you do is seethe. I won yesterday, today I win again. Amen! It's over for Satanists like you
You didn't, islam is fastest growing by both coversion and birthrates,.





It is certainly over for protestcucks who will be gone in less than a century.
 
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You didn't, islam is fastest growing by both coversion and birthrates,.
It is certainly over for protestcucks who will be gone in less than a century.
I read it, doesn't say that. It's crazy how you're praising islam to defend catholicism, it shows you both worship the same god - satan. It's obvious by how you're defending them
 
I read it, doesn't say that. It's crazy how you're praising islam to defend catholicism, it shows you both worship the same god - satan. It's obvious by how you're defending them
It does, and the paragraph you showed are mostly conversions from mainline protestantism to pentecolastalism. You haven't read your own paragraph let alone mine lol.
Founders of protestant movement prised islam not me, stating religion data is not prising anyone.

While according to other various scholars and sources Pentecostalism – a Protestant Christian movement – is the fastest growing religion in the world,[8][9][10][11][12][13][14][15][16] this growth is primarily due to religious conversion and denomination switching among Christians.[17][18
 
It does, and the paragraph you showed are mostly conversions from mainline protestantism to pentecolastalism. You haven't read your own paragraph let alone mine lol.
Founders of protestant movement prised islam not me, stating religion data is not prising anyone.

While according to other various scholars and sources Pentecostalism – a Protestant Christian movement – is the fastest growing religion in the world,[8][9][10][11][12][13][14][15][16] this growth is primarily due to religious conversion and denomination switching among Christians.[17][18
Due to religious conversion AND ....
this means both, my point is valid.

you just destroyed yourself btw, you proved Catholics are becoming Protestants :feelsgah::feelskek::feelskek::feelsokman:
 
Due to religious conversion AND ....
this means both, my point is valid.

you just destroyed yourself btw, you proved Catholics are becoming Protestants :feelsgah::feelskek::feelskek::feelsokman:
Your point is not valid since you misinterpreted your own paragraph you posted.
Denomination switching is mostly mainline protestants becomming pente-something.
Protestanism is not the fastest growing religion by neither birthrates nor the conversion rates, and it will go extinct in less than a century.
 
Your point is not valid since you misinterpreted your own paragraph you posted.
Denomination switching is mostly mainline protestants becomming pente-something.
Protestanism is not the fastest growing religion by neither birthrates nor the conversion rates, and it will extinct in less than a decade.
Wrong, you're interpreting everything wrong and you're lying
 
Wrong, you're interpreting everything wrong and you're lying
Lying is something a protestant would do. I am not lying, I am trying to explin you what your own paragraph says and what other statistics are showing, since I see you have problems with understanding.
 
Lying is something a protestant would do. I am not lying, I am trying to explin you what your own paragraph says and what other statistics are showing.
I explained, you coped
 
I explained, you coped
You misinterpreted paragraph you posted, I explained it to you.
I explained to you what your own paragraph says and what other statistics are showing, since I see you have problems with understanding.
 
You misinterpreted paragraph you posted, I explained it to you.
I explained to you what your own paragraph says and what other statistics are showing, since I see you have problems with understanding.
You assumed it said that, you didn’t look at it objectively. You want it to say that but it doesn't. Its says "denomination switching among Christians". The Christian denominations are Catholic, Orthodox, Protestant, and a few others. It means that those converts came from those other denominations such as Catholicism :feelshaha:

It's over for Catholicism, it's followers are becoming Protestants
 
Biblical proofs Jesus is GOD:

Isaiah 7:14 John 1:1-14 Isaiah 9:5-6 John 1:18 John 2:25 Isaiah 35:4 John 3:35-36 Isaiah 43:10-11 John 5:17-30 Isaiah 446 John 5:46-47 Luke 2:11 John 6:35 Luke 5:20 John 6:64-65 Luke 18:19 John 8:12 Luke 24:51-52 John 8:18-19 Luke 8:39 John 8:24 Micah 5:1 John 8:28-29 Revelation 1:17 John 8:58 Matthew 1:22-23 John 9:38 Matthew 2:11 John 10:7-9 Matthew 4:6-7 John 10:11-15 Matthew 4:11 John 10:17-21 Matthew 5:21-22 John 10:28-39 Matthew 5:27-28 John 12:44-50 Matthew 5:31-32 John 13:13 Matthew 8:2 John 13:19-20 Matthew 8:27 John 14:6-14 John 15:5 Matthew 10:1 John 15:23 Matthew 10:40 John 16:23 Matthew 11:27 John 17:1-5 Matthew 14:33 John 17:24 Matthew 15:25 John 18:5 Matthew 28:8 John 20:28-29 Matthew 28:18-20 John 21:17 Mark 2:5-11 Acts 3:15 Mark 14:61-64 Acts 7:59-60 Acts 20:28 Romans 9:5 1 Corinthians 8:6 1 Corinthians 10:1-4 2 Corinthians 4:4-6 Ephesians 3:9-10 Philippians 2:5-11 Philippians 3:20-21 Colossians 1:15-19 Colossians 2:9-10 1 Timothy 3:16 1 Timothy 3:13-16 Titus 2:13 Hebrew's 1:1-14 Hebrews 13:8 1 Peter 4:19 2 Peter 18:1-2 1 John 5:20 Revelation 1:8 Revelation 1:17-18 Revelation 2:8 Revelation 17:14 Revelation 21:6-7 Revelation 22:13 Isaiah 7:14 John 1:1-14 Isaiah 9:5-6 John 1:18 Isaiah 35:4 John 2:25 Isaiah 43:10-11 Luke 2:11 John 3:35-36 Isaiah 44:6 John 5:17-30 Revelation 1:17 John 5:46-47 Micah 5:1 John 6:35 Matthew 1:22-23 John 6:64-65 Matthew 2:1-2 John 8:12 Matthew 2:11 John 8:18-19 Matthew 4:6-7 John 8:24 Matthew 4:11 John 8:28-29 Matthew 5:21-22 John 8:58 Matthew 5:27-28 John 9:38 Matthew 5:31-32 John 10:7-9 Matthew 8:2 John 10:11-15 Matthew 8:27 John 10:17-21 Matthew 10:1 John 10:28-39 Matthew 10:40 John 12:44-50 Matthew 11:27 John 13:13 Matthew 14:33 Matthew 15:25 Matthew 28:8 John 15:5 Matthew 28:18-20 Mark 2:5-11



I am the way the truth and the light.” “ the father and I are one” “ I am the alpha and the omega. The first and the last. The beginning and end” “I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will never be hungry. Who ever believes in me will never be thirsty”.



The Muslims say oh but in the bible Jesus never says the EXact qords I am god qorship me. He doesn’t need to say your exact qords to fit your requirements to be God. He makes it knoqn and obvious that he is GOD in the flesh many times as do the authors in the NT and OT. To refute this is being intellectually dishonest.





) The New Testament uses the Greek word for ‘God’ (theos or θεός) to describe Jesus (John 1:1 Titus 2:13, Hebrews 1:8 , 2 Peter 1:1

‘Lord’ (kurios or κύριος) is used to describe Jesus. This is the same word the Greek Old Testament (Septuagint) translated the formal name for God (yhwh, יְהוָֹה). This indicates the New Testament authors believed Jesus was God from the Old Testament (Matthew 3:3(if available), Luke 1:43Open in),


3.) Jesus called himself the “Son of man” 84 times in the four gospels – see Matthew 16:13. This was a Messianic title given in Daniel the Prophet (Daniel 7:13-14


4.) Jesus is the creator of the world which is something only God could do (John 1:3)


5.) The disciples believed he knew everything, an attribute of God (John 16:30)



) John 10:30 me and the father are one

7.) Jesus says I am the alpha the omega the beginning and end (eternal nature in rev 22:13)

8.) he said he can forgive sins and only God can do this (matt 9:11-8)



) (Matt 25: 31-46) he judges people during judgment day



10.) he said baptize in the name of the father the son and the holy spirit (Matt 28:19)



) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God (John 1)





11.) (Genesis 1:26-28) says let "US" make man in "OUR" image. This is referring to the father the son and holy spirit and not the angels as GOD doesn't need to consult his creation.





12.) (John 5:23) so that all may honor the son just as they honor the father

(John: 5:26) Just as the father has life in himself, so also he gave to his son the possession of life in himself.



13.) (Matt 11:27): no one knows the son except the father and no one knows the father except the son.



14.) (John: 10:30-33) I and the father are one.



15.) (Mark 14: 61-62): Are you the Christ the son of the blessed one: I AM, and you'll see the son of man sitting at the right hand of the mighty one and coming on the clouds of heaven. (son of man in Daniel's prophecy (Daniel 7:13-14). Claiming to be the pre existing Sovreign of the universe and foretelling that he would prove his claim by judging the very court that was condemning him.





16.) (John 10:11) I am the good shepard. This is a title that's assigned to God in the OT( Psalm 23:1)





17.) (John 5:27) Jesus claims to be the judge of all people a task only God performs Joel 3:12.



18.) He called himself the bridegroom in Mattheq 25:1 a role God had qith Israel (Isaih 6:5)



19.) He forgave sins (Mark 2:5) but only God can forgive sins (Psalm 103:8-12).



20.) He states to have equal authority with God (Matt 28:18)



21.) He encouraged prayer in his name John (14:13-14)



22.)He states you can heal the sick and cast out demons in his name (Mark 16:17 -19)



23.) He offers salvation if you believe in ihm (John 3:18)



24.) Authors referring to Jesus as GOD ( Rev 1:17, Deut 33:27).



25.) Authors refer to Jesus as creator of all things ( John 1:3, 1 Peter 4:19)



26.) Authors claim he's Omnipresent: (28:20)



) accepts and receives worship from people and Angels ( matt 14:33, Rev 7:11) Even though the bible clearly says to only worship the one true God Exodus 20:1-5, Deut 5:6-9)



) GOD calls Jesus Yah Allah in Arabic bible:

as You have given Him authority over all flesh, that He should give eternal life to as many as You have given Him. And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent. I have glorified You on the earth. I have finished the work which You have given Me to do. And now, O Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was. “I have manifested Your name to the men whom You have given Me out of the world. They were Yours, You gave them to Me, and they have kept Your word. Now they have known that all things which You have given Me are from You. For I have given to them the words which You have given Me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came forth from You; and they have believed that You sent Me. “I pray for them.



















































Arguments the satanic death cultists in Muslims make to lie to themselves and say Jesus can’t be GOD.



ARGUMENT 1 The main scripture the athiests, anti-thiests, satanists and musilmims (plagerized and bastardized version of judaism) to use as their form of flaqed proof and do not understand the context is

Matthew 24:36-44 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.




Given the context the apostles have come to christ and they asked him

about the buildings of jerusalem. He has just left the temple (matthew 23)

speaks of jesus just leaving the temple and so they're on the mount of

olives they're looking at the temple mount and the buildings in

jerusalem and they draw his attention to them and they say you know lord look at all these beautiful buildings and so forth. Jesus said i tell you the truth not one stone here will be left on top of another and that leads them to ask when's all this going to happen and when what's going to be the end of the age. So in the context of that Jesus says with some variation in the different accounts depending on what the emphasis was of the gospel writer but they say you know jesus says no man knows the day or the hour not the angels in heaven nor the son but the father only.



now there are several things to be observed here in the first place this isn't islam no matter how you interpret it. Jesus here categorically distinguishes himself from Men and angels and he ranks himself above them. no man knows not the not the men not angels and then he says not even the son but how do we account for him saying he doesn't know the day or the hour if in fact he is the son and here we have to remember what it means to call him the son of god it's not being used in a biological sense the bible repudiates that as clearly as the quran does you know Muhammad apparently thinks that jews and Christians believe that Jesus is a product of biological procreation or sexual relations uh but but the bible uh certainly doesn't teach that christians don't believe that christ was conceived in his mother's womb by the power of the holy spirit according to predictive prophecy as well as according to its fulfillment in matthew 1in in luke 1 and so forth



So when the new testament speaks of jesus as son of god it clearly means it in a divine sense in john 5:17-18 for example jesus calls the father calls god his father and claims to be doing what the father does namely works of providence, sustaining the world, working miracles and so forth and

this leads the Edomites to want to kill him because in calling god his own father. Tt says he was making himself equal with god and so the claim of sonship on the part of Jesus was a claim of equality. So how can Jesus who identifies himself as the son and identifies god as father which is abominated in islam, say that he doesn't know the day or the hour well?



Here’s what's important to remember is that Jesus originally spoke Hebrew and Aramaic. Aramaic would have been the common language of discourse among the Israelites. Hebrew would have been the scholarly language what they would have used in synagogue and so forth Jesus obviously knew Hebrew he stood up and read the scroll of isaiah in in the gospel of Luke for example and only uh somebody who could read in hebrew could do that,but in hebrew and Aramaic there is a form of a grammatical form known as a causative where when a person says uses the word knoq, it doesn't always have to refer to cognitive information or intellectual data. So for example this isn't an example of a causative but it's an example of the word no being used differently than simply intellectual knowledge in genesis 4 it says adam knew his wife eve and she conceived in borah's son clearly that doesn't mean that adam came to have intellectual knowledge of even as a result of that shebecame pregnant it's saying that he had an intimate relationship with her and that produced a child. Likewise in the book of amos god says of israel you only have i known among all the families of the earth. There it means that god loved them. He loved israel as his special people. So the word know can be used in various ways and i just gave one other example of that but when the causative form of that is used what it means is to make known.



now bringing that to jesus’ statement in matthew 24 when Jesus said no man

knows the day or the hour not the angels nor the son but the father only,

what he's saying is no one has the prerogative to make that day known.

Now contextually what Jesus is referring to is the coming his future coming to

receive his bride he even goes on to give a parable of 10 virgins. Remember that and of the bridegroom he's clearly talking about the coming of

the bridegroom for his bride or of the groom for his bride and

in that context he says nobody has theright to make that day known



in Israelite culture when it came time for a son to go and get his bride

the right belonged to the father to declare that day to the people.

The son couldn't tell people when that day was and so all Jesus is doing in matthew 24 is saying i am the son he is the father it's his prerogative as

the father to declare that day to men. That's why that passage doesn't refute

the spirit knowing the day or the hour because Jesus is talking about the

father's prerogative to declare the day which is the father's prerogative and

that's proven in acts 1 when the disciples said to Jesus are you

at this time going to restore the kingdom to israel and Jesus said it's not for you to know the times or seasons which the father has fixed by his own authority. He says you just be busy about the work that that god has given you so it's the father's prerogative to make that day known.



The classical way that people address that passage is to explain it in terms of Christ's two natures. I think that works in part because Christ obviously had a divine nature and a human nature and his human nature is really human he slept he wept he he died in his human nature it was a real human nature and so from that perspective he could grow and learn and so forth but i don't think that it's consistent with the context to make that the Interpretation given everything I stated and because that explanation wouldn't account for how the spirit is not included there because it's not talking about intellectual knowledge but declarative knowledge.



So, if you use proper context and understand how the word “know” has been used within the bible and using those definitions we can clearly see this passage doesn’t mean Jesus isn’t GOD. It’s simply a passage that Muslims take out of context prove their religious superiority and convert more fools form youtube videos.







ARGUMENT 2: Jesus curses the fig tree.



Jesus, in the Synoptic Gospels, went to a fig tree looking for food to eat (Matthew 21:18-22; Mark 11:12-14, 20-21). When he saw that there were no figs on the tree he cursed it. The problem with this story is that it wasn’t the season for figs according to Mark 11:13! If Jesus is God why didn’t he know that it wasn’t the season for figs? And why would he curse the tree when it wasn’t its fault that it wasn’t fig season?

Answer:


There is a very reasonable explanation why Jesus cursed the fig tree even though it wasn’t the season for figs. Even before the season, fig trees produce little knobs which are eaten by a passerby. As the late renowned NT scholar F.F. Bruce noted:

"The other miracle is the cursing of the barren fig tree (Mk. xi 12 ff.), a stumbling block to many. They feel that it is unlike Jesus, and so someone must have misunderstood what actually happened, or turned a spoken parable into an acted miracle, or something like that. Some, on the other hand, welcome the story because it shows that Jesus was human enough to get unreasonably annoyed on occasion. It appears, however, that a closer acquaintance with fig trees would have prevented such misunderstandings. ‘The time of the fig is not yet,’ says Mark, for it was just before Passover, about six weeks before the fully-formed fig appears. The fact that Mark adds these words shows that he knew what he was talking about. When the fig leaves appear about the end of March, they are accompanied by a crop of small knobs, called taqsh by the Arabs, a sort of fore-runner of the real figs. These taqsh are eaten by peasants and others when hungry. They drop off before the real fig is formed. But if the leaves appear unaccompanied by taqsh, there will be no figs that year. So it was evident to our Lord, when He turned aside to see if there were any of these taqsh on the fig-tree to assuage His hunger for the time being, that the absence of the taqsh meant that there would be no figs when the time of figs came. For all its fair foliage, it was a fruitless and a hopeless tree." (Bruce, Are The New Testament Documents Reliable? [Intervarsity Press; Downers Grove, Ill, fifth revised edition 1992], pp. 73-74; bold emphasis ours)

Another noted Evangelical scholar Craig S. Keener makes the following observation:

"At Passover season in late March or early April, fig trees are often in leaf on the eastern side of the Mount of Olives. At this time of year, such fig trees contained only green early figs (Arabs call them taqsh), which ripen around June but often drop off before that time, leaving only green leaves on the tree. A leafy tree lacking such early figs, however, would bear no figs at all that year," (Keener, A Commentary on the Gospel of Matthew [Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Company, July 1999], p. 504)

Thus, what was thought to be an example against the veracity of the NT ends up actually becoming a rather persuasive argument for its historical reliability! This exemplifies the minute accuracy of the Synoptic Gospels, both in time and place, i.e. this took place during the month of Passover, figs located on the eastern side of the Mount of Olives etc. It also provides evidence for an early dating of Matthew and Mark - or, at the very least, shows that they were dependent on very old and early material - well before the fall of Jerusalem. After all, the knowledge of these details would most likely have been lost or unknown to authors writing after the destruction of Jerusalem.

Moreover, the cursing of the fig tree is a played or acted out parable, one which warned the nation of Israel of impending judgment. In the words of Messianic scholar David Stern:

"… If Yeshua’s cursing and drying up the fig tree had been a petulant reaction to disappointment because he couldn't satisfy his hunger, it would be unworthy of anyone, let alone the Messiah. But Yeshua is making a point by means of prophetic drama, acted-out parable (possibly Lk 13:6-9). Tanakh examples include Yirmiyahu, who bought and broke a clay bottle (Jeremiah 19), and Yechezk'el, who made and then burned up a model of Jerusalem (Ezekiel 4-5); for a later New Testament instance see Ac 21:10-11.

Even out of season a fig tree in leaf - it must have been in leaf to be seen in the distance (v. 12) - holds forth the promise of fruit. The normal early season for figs in Israel is June, but the early unripe fruit (Song of Songs 2:13) begins to show itself even before the spring leaves appear on the branches, often before Passover.

We know that Yeshua expects God's people to put forth the fruit of righteousness, and that unproductive branches are thrown in the fire (Mt 7:16-20; 12:33; 13:4-9, 18-23; Yn 15:1-8). Thus, the drying-up of the fig tree is an acted-out warning. In keeping with Proverbs 27:18 (‘He who tends a fig tree will eat his fruit, and he who serves his master will be honored’) Yeshua here is teaching his followers what it means to serve their master, God: it means simply to have the kind of trust that comes from God (v. 22), and that they will wither away if they don’t. Yeshua neither acts from pique nor perform arbitrary miracles like a magician; every one of his supernatural acts has spiritual significance." (Stern, Jewish New Testament Commentary [Jewish New Testament Publications, Inc., Clarksville Maryland, Fifth edition 1996], pp. 95-96; bold emphasis ours)

In fact, the OT often uses the fig tree as a symbol of national Israel:

"I will take away their harvest, declares the LORD. There will be no grapes on the vine. There will be no figs on the tree, AND THEIR LEAVES WILL WITHER. What I have given them will be taken from them.’" Jeremiah 8:13

"You may say, 'The LORD has raised up prophets for us in Babylon,' but this is what the LORD says about the king who sits on David's throne and all the people who remain in this city, your countrymen who did not go with you into exile- yes, this is what the LORD Almighty says: 'I will send the sword, famine and plague against them and I will make them like poor figs that are so bad they cannot be eaten. I will pursue them with the sword, famine and plague and will make them abhorrent to all the kingdoms of the earth and an object of cursing and horror, of scorn and reproach, among all the nations where I drive them. For they have not listened to my words,' declares the LORD, 'words that I sent to them again and again by my servants the prophets. And you exiles have not listened either,' declares the LORD." Jeremiah 29:15-19

"When I found Israel, it was like finding grapes in the desert; when I saw your fathers, IT WAS LIKE SEEING THE EARLY FRUIT ON THE FIG TREE. But when they came to Baal Peor, they consecrated themselves to that shameful idol and became as vile as the thing they loved... Ephraim is blighted, their root is withered, they yield no fruit. Even if they bear children, I will slay their cherished offspring." Hosea 9:10, 16

"What misery is mine! I am like one who gathers summer fruit at the gleaning of the vineyard; there is no cluster of grapes to eat, none of the early figs that I crave. The godly have been swept from the land; not one upright man remains. All men lie in wait to shed blood; each hunts his brother with a net. Both hands are skilled in doing evil; the ruler demands gifts, the judge accepts bribes, the powerful dictate what they desire- they all conspire together. The best of them is like a brier, the most upright worse than a thorn hedge. The day of your watchmen has come, the day God visits you. Now is the time of their confusion." Micah 7:1-4

"All your fortresses are like fig trees with their first ripe fruit; when they are shaken, the figs fall into the mouth of the eater." Nahum 3:12

The foregoing helps clarify why Jesus did what he did. Christ came searching for what the OT says Yahweh searches after, namely, an indication that Israel was a fruitful tree and not barren and dry. Yet instead of finding the early fig (cf. Hosea 9:10; Micah 7:1), which would have demonstrated that Israel was spiritually alive and capable of bearing the fruit which satisfies God, Christ found the nation spiritually dead and barren. In light of Israel’s spiritual barrenness, God would cut down his fig tree, his very own vine, and burn it:

"Then he told this parable: ‘A man had a fig tree, planted in his vineyard, and he went to look for fruit on it, but did not find any. So he said to the man who took care of the vineyard, "For three years now I've been coming to look for fruit on this fig tree and haven't found any. Cut it down! Why should it use up the soil?" "Sir," the man replied, "leave it alone for one more year, and I'll dig around it and fertilize it. If it bears fruit next year, fine! If not, then cut it down."’" Luke 13:6-9

"He then began to speak to them in parables: 'A man planted a vineyard. He put a wall around it, dug a pit for the winepress and built a watchtower. Then he rented the vineyard to some farmers and went away on a journey. At harvest time he sent a servant to the tenants to collect from them some of the fruit of the vineyard. But they seized him, beat him and sent him away empty-handed. Then he sent another servant to them; they struck this man on the head and treated him shamefully. He sent still another, and that one they killed. He sent many others; some of them they beat, others they killed. He had one left to send, a son, whom he loved. He sent him last of all, saying, "They will respect my son." But the tenants said to one another, "This is the heir. Come, let's kill him, and the inheritance will be ours." So they took him and killed him, and threw him out of the vineyard. What then will the owner of the vineyard do? He will come and kill those tenants and give the vineyard to others.’" Mark 12:1-9

"O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing. Look, your house is left to you desolate. For I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, ‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.’" Matthew 23:37-39

"As he approached Jerusalem and saw the city, he wept over it and said, ‘If you, even you, had only known on this day what would bring you peace-but now it is hidden from your eyes. The days will come upon you when your enemies will build an embankment against you and encircle you and hem you in on every side. They will dash you to the ground, you and the children within your walls. They will not leave one stone on another, because you did not recognize the time of God's coming to you.’" Luke 19:41-44

This was the meaning behind Jesus’ cursing the fig tree, as a sign that God came looking for spiritual fruitfulness among his covenant people but saw none, and would therefore bring destruction upon them.

As it stands, there is no problem with Jesus cursing the fig tree, nor does this act undermine his absolute perfect Deity.



































ARGUMENT 3: Why Does Jesus Say "The Father Is Greater Than I" In John 14:28?



Muslims believe this passage means that Jesus can’t be God if he admits that the father is greater than him.






John 14:28





“You heard me say, ‘I am going away and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I.



He says rejoice that I’m going to the father because the father is greater than I. He doesn’t mean the father is better than me because he has a deity and Jesus doesn’t. This Gospel introduces Yahshua as God the one who created all things and became flesh for our redemption. Let’s forget the prologue and assume John qill contradict himself 13 chapters later.



John 14:12-14 12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believe on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.

14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.



This doesn’t mean greater works in terms of superior or better quality than the works than Jesus performed but the same works that he did but a greater number or quantity, not quality. The reason y they can do greater works than he is because he goes to the father.



So when Jesus goes to the father when you ask in my name and Jesus hears your prayers and I’ll be the one doing the works through you per your request.





John 14:23 23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.





So Jesus claimed to be present personally and hears and answers all prayers of all true believers to the same extent and to the same degree that the father is with every true believer. This assumes that Jesus is omnipresent and omniscient to know who the true believers are and all powerful to answer all requests, no matter how many people are asking. To be omnipresent, omniscient, omnipotent and to hear all prayers makes you god. So he claims the attributes and functions of GOD but still not the father as he’s distinct from the father and one with him and the fathers ability and do the very things that he can do which are the only things GOD can do.



Therefore this isn’t a statement of the father being greater than Jesus in terms of the father being a deity and the son not having the deity as the deity is with him from the beginning to the end (alpha and omega). But greater in terms of status, because while Jesus remained on earth he remained on earth he’s in a state of humility as he’s assumed a status as a servant and says to them if you love me you’ll rejoice because as long as I remain here, the father will be greater in status but when I go to the father that will change.



John 17:5 5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.



So Jesus says glorify me in your presence, when I return to heaven, the glory you posses is the glory you’ll bestow on me in your presence. Secondly, that’s the glory I had already with you before the world was created. Jesus affirms 2 things in that he was there alongside the father before the creation of the world and he was there alongside the father in the same glory and that’s the glory he sat aside but will regain and that’s what he meant, if I remain I earth, the father’s greater in status because the father heavenly glory. When he goes to the father he’ll no longer be in this state of humility where sinners beat me to the point of death and nail me to the cross, I’ll be basking in the same glory of the father where all inhabitants in heaven will behold my glory and know I am the son of God Who's one with the father.



This passage proves that Islam is false and Muhammad is an anti-crhist. Because Jesus says the father and he’s the son who shares the same glory that the father possesses all of which Muhammad the false prophet denied because Muhammad said Allah isn’t the father and Jesus isn’t the son.



Another way to look at this is to ask the question is your boss greater than you? Yes by his authority. Are you greater than your dog in the eyes of your creator? Yes by nature. Then there are many ways one can be greater than. So to just take this scripture completely out of context is a failing Muslim tactic that we use to embarrass them and their false god.







ARGUMENT 4: ONLY GOD is good







Mark 10:18?

And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.



Again, the Muslims never use context ever. Once you go into the context you can debunk their lies and deceptions:



Mark:



SUMMARY:



There are probably hundreds of biblical passages in the bible where Jesus claims to be GOD in his actions or words, indirectly claims to be God, people or authors claim directly or indirectly that Jesus is God in their actions or words and he doesn’t need to use the specific vocabulary requirements of Muslims or any other people or group to demonstrate his deity as it’s done adequately throughout the bible. The statement the son doesn’t know the day or the hour and only the father does isn’t a claim of ignorance to know informational knowledge but declarative knowledge. Jesus saying the father is greater than I isn’t due to the father having deity and not the son but the father having status over Jesus while temporarily in human form as a self sacrifice for humanity as a servant.





































SUMMARY:



There are probably hundreds of biblical passages in the bible where Jesus claims to be GOD in his actions and or words, indirectly claims to be God, people or authors claim directly or indirectly that Jesus is God in their actions and or words and he doesn’t need to use the specific vocabulary requirements of Muslims or any other people or group to demonstrate his deity as it’s done adequately throughout the bible.Taking single scriptures out of context to promote your false satanic archaic death cult is not only intellectually dishonest but pure evil as is your God the devil.



The scripture on the son doesn’t know the day or the hour and only the father does isn’t a claim of ignorance to know intellectual knowledge but declarative knowledge. Jesus saying the father is greater than I isn’t due to the father having deity and not the son but the father having status over Jesus while temporarily in human form as a self sacrifice for humanity as a servant.





The scripture in Mark on only God is good (even though YAHSHUA calls himself GOD a billion times already before this, Jesus is speaking in a hypothetical scenario in hey how can you call me good and only god is good so follow me and get rid of all your things if you believe I am good and he walked away because he had many riches.



Muslims will say the scriptures have been corrupted but Muhammad says the Torah is the legit word of Allah and Allah says his words can’t be corrupted in the Koran. Muhammad had access to the same Torah we have now in the Septuagint and Codex from the 3rd and 4th century AD.

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well just because Jesus SAID he’s god doesn’t mean he is god because mohammed also said a bunch of shit too :feelsokman: but since u don’t believe the koran that doesn’t count so why should bible count for muslims:feelskek:?

jesus is god bcuz i felt his presence

This is a completely separate conversation. You see the Muslims attempt to use the bible to say Jesus isn't GOD so I use the bible to demonstrate he is God. As for other proofs outside of the bible I could write a book on just one piece of evidence and that's what I'm currently doing.
 
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This is a completely separate conversation. You see the Muslims attempt to use the bible to say Jesus isn't GOD so I use the bible to demonstrate he is God. As for other proofs outside of the bible I could write a book on just one piece of evidence and that's what I'm currently doing.
tag me when u do
 
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Thanks,

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1.) Shroud of Turin
2.) The real race of the Israelites aka God's chosen or Sheep.
 
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You assumed it said that, you didn’t look at it objectively. You want it to say that but it doesn't. Its says "denomination switching among Christians". The Christian denominations are Catholic, Orthodox, Protestant, and a few others. It means that those converts came from those other denominations such as Catholicism :feelshaha:

It's over for Catholicism, it's followers are becoming Protestants
No, it is switching from mainline protestantism to peno-something.
You aren't sharpest knife in a drawer aren't you.
 
No, it is switching from mainline protestantism to peno-something.
You aren't sharpest knife in a drawer aren't you.
"Pheno-something" is the SAME denomination as "mainline protestantism"

You're the dumbest user on .org. It's beyond over for you
 
"Pheno-something" is the SAME denomination as "mainline protestantism"

You're the dumbest user on .org. It's beyond over for you
No, it is not
Shame Facepalm GIF by MOODMAN

What the fuck are you talking about?
They are completely different denominations.
Literally dumbest user on org lol.
 
No, it is not
Shame Facepalm GIF by MOODMAN

What the fuck are you talking about?
They are completely different denominations.
Literally dumbest user on org lol.
Both are Protestant and you admitted it. You have demons in you, no person can be this stupid
 
Both are Protestant and you admitted it. You have demons in you, no person can be this stupid
Yes, they are switching from one protestant denomination to another protestant denomination . You just claimed that mainline protestants and penecostals are same denomination. Just lol buddy boyo.
 
Yes, they are switching from one protestand denomination to another. You just claimed that mainline protestants and penecostals are same denomination. Just lol buddy boyo.
Pentecostal are Protestant, it says it in the quote + how do you know where they're coming from when it doesn't specify.

Your logic on "muhhh dying MUCH slower" is false because Eastern Orthodox countries are not being replaced at all, so this means Orthodoxy is right and not Catholicism if we follow your stupid logic because they have no muslims and no immigration.

In the name of the father son and Holy Spirit I rebuke you Almighty God, Who delivered Your people from the bondage of the adversary, and through Your Son cast down Satan like lightning, deliver me and all the readers of this abominable thread from every influence of unclean spirits. Command Satan to depart far from him by the power of Your only begotten Son. Rescue him from demonic imaginings and darkness. Fill him with the light of the Holy Spirit that he may be guarded against all snares of crafty demons. Grant that an angel will always go before him and lead him to the path of righteousness all the days of his life, to the honor of Your glorious Name, Father, Son and Holy Spirit, now and forever. Amen
 
Pentecostal are Protestant, it says it in the quote + how do you know where they're coming from when it doesn't specify.

Your logic on "muhhh dying MUCH slower" is false because Eastern Orthodox countries are not being replaced at all, so this means Orthodoxy is right and not Catholicism if we follow your stupid logic because they have no muslims and no immigration.

In the name of the father son and Holy Spirit I rebuke you Almighty God, Who delivered Your people from the bondage of the adversary, and through Your Son cast down Satan like lightning, deliver me and all the readers of this abominable thread from every influence of unclean spirits. Command Satan to depart far from him by the power of Your only begotten Son. Rescue him from demonic imaginings and darkness. Fill him with the light of the Holy Spirit that he may be guarded against all snares of crafty demons. Grant that an angel will always go before him and lead him to the path of righteousness all the days of his life, to the honor of Your glorious Name, Father, Son and Holy Spirit, now and forever. Amen
Yes dumbfuck, they are switching from one protestant denomination to another. It says in the sources but I guess you haven't look at them either. Everyone knows that mainline protestants are converting to these alternative sects and data shows it.
Russia has muslim migration and we are discussing protestantism not orthodoxy.
Catholicism and orthodoxy are two Christian churches while lutheranism is a heresy and peno-something are not even Christians.
 
Yes dumbfuck, they are switching from one protestant denomination to another. It says in the sources but I guess you haven't look at them either. Everyone knows that mainline protestants are converting to these alternative sects and data shows it.
Lies, read properly

Russia has muslim migration and we are discussing protestantism not orthodoxy.
Catholicism and orthodoxy are two christian churches while lutheranism is a heresy and peno-something are not even christians.
Orthodox believe you are heretics going to hell. Russia has much less immigration than Poland, France, Spain, Ireland. If we follow your logic Catholics are finished compared to the Orthodox. Do you know see how dumb you are, you demon possessed retard
 
Lies, read properly
I have, it says that mainline protestants are converting to other protestant denominations, which is the main reason of pentecostalist growth.
You are completely clueless aout the issue, you claimed pentecostalists are same denomination as mainline protestants, you don't know anything about protestant denominations and you are also quite dumb.
 
I have, it says that mainline protestants are converting to other protestant denominations, which is the main reason of pentecostalist growth.
No, you have no arguments, it's over for you and your catholic demons
 
No, you have no arguments, it's over for you and your catholic demons
You are the one with no arguments boyo. Over for org retard who talks about religion and thinks mainline protestants and pencostalists are the same denomination:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
Better go talk about canthal tilts, this is obviously too complex for you.
 
You are the one with no arguments boyo. Over for org retard who talks about religion and thinks mainline protestants and pencostalists are the same denomination:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
Better go talk about cathal tilts, this is obviously too complex for you.
What are byzantine Catholics? A different denomination from Roman Catholics? :forcedsmile::forcedsmile:
 
What are byzantine Catholics? A different denomination from Roman Catholics? :forcedsmile::forcedsmile:
Byzantine catholics profess the same faith, doctrines, and dogmas as the Roman Catholic Church and practice the same sacraments, can't say the same bout different branches of flat earthers in the midwest.
 
Byzantine catholics profess the same faith, doctrines, and dogmas as the Roman Catholic Church and practice the same sacraments, can't say the same bout different branches of flat earthers in the midwest.
The Denomination is one - protestantism.
the same faith, doctrines, and dogmas as the Roman Catholic Church and practice the same sacraments
We do that too. All protestant churches have the same beliefs and everything and the same sacraments (protestants have sacraments too but they're different from your idolatrous ones)

Again you show how stupid you are, if we follow your logic "mainline protestantism" and "pent something" are the same denomination - the protestant one.

Same as your "much slower" argument. Your logic is retarded and I destroyed it.

If we follow your logic all these are different denominations:

Western (Latin) Church
Byzantine
Alexandrian
Antiochian
Armenian
Chaldean
Old Catholic Churches

:feelshaha: you don't have 2 cents worth of brain

Another day, another utter destruction
 

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Biblical proofs Jesus is GOD:

Isaiah 7:14 John 1:1-14 Isaiah 9:5-6 John 1:18 John 2:25 Isaiah 35:4 John 3:35-36 Isaiah 43:10-11 John 5:17-30 Isaiah 446 John 5:46-47 Luke 2:11 John 6:35 Luke 5:20 John 6:64-65 Luke 18:19 John 8:12 Luke 24:51-52 John 8:18-19 Luke 8:39 John 8:24 Micah 5:1 John 8:28-29 Revelation 1:17 John 8:58 Matthew 1:22-23 John 9:38 Matthew 2:11 John 10:7-9 Matthew 4:6-7 John 10:11-15 Matthew 4:11 John 10:17-21 Matthew 5:21-22 John 10:28-39 Matthew 5:27-28 John 12:44-50 Matthew 5:31-32 John 13:13 Matthew 8:2 John 13:19-20 Matthew 8:27 John 14:6-14 John 15:5 Matthew 10:1 John 15:23 Matthew 10:40 John 16:23 Matthew 11:27 John 17:1-5 Matthew 14:33 John 17:24 Matthew 15:25 John 18:5 Matthew 28:8 John 20:28-29 Matthew 28:18-20 John 21:17 Mark 2:5-11 Acts 3:15 Mark 14:61-64 Acts 7:59-60 Acts 20:28 Romans 9:5 1 Corinthians 8:6 1 Corinthians 10:1-4 2 Corinthians 4:4-6 Ephesians 3:9-10 Philippians 2:5-11 Philippians 3:20-21 Colossians 1:15-19 Colossians 2:9-10 1 Timothy 3:16 1 Timothy 3:13-16 Titus 2:13 Hebrew's 1:1-14 Hebrews 13:8 1 Peter 4:19 2 Peter 18:1-2 1 John 5:20 Revelation 1:8 Revelation 1:17-18 Revelation 2:8 Revelation 17:14 Revelation 21:6-7 Revelation 22:13 Isaiah 7:14 John 1:1-14 Isaiah 9:5-6 John 1:18 Isaiah 35:4 John 2:25 Isaiah 43:10-11 Luke 2:11 John 3:35-36 Isaiah 44:6 John 5:17-30 Revelation 1:17 John 5:46-47 Micah 5:1 John 6:35 Matthew 1:22-23 John 6:64-65 Matthew 2:1-2 John 8:12 Matthew 2:11 John 8:18-19 Matthew 4:6-7 John 8:24 Matthew 4:11 John 8:28-29 Matthew 5:21-22 John 8:58 Matthew 5:27-28 John 9:38 Matthew 5:31-32 John 10:7-9 Matthew 8:2 John 10:11-15 Matthew 8:27 John 10:17-21 Matthew 10:1 John 10:28-39 Matthew 10:40 John 12:44-50 Matthew 11:27 John 13:13 Matthew 14:33 Matthew 15:25 Matthew 28:8 John 15:5 Matthew 28:18-20 Mark 2:5-11



I am the way the truth and the light.” “ the father and I are one” “ I am the alpha and the omega. The first and the last. The beginning and end” “I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will never be hungry. Who ever believes in me will never be thirsty”.



The Muslims say oh but in the bible Jesus never says the EXact qords I am god qorship me. He doesn’t need to say your exact qords to fit your requirements to be God. He makes it knoqn and obvious that he is GOD in the flesh many times as do the authors in the NT and OT. To refute this is being intellectually dishonest.





) The New Testament uses the Greek word for ‘God’ (theos or θεός) to describe Jesus (John 1:1 Titus 2:13, Hebrews 1:8 , 2 Peter 1:1

‘Lord’ (kurios or κύριος) is used to describe Jesus. This is the same word the Greek Old Testament (Septuagint) translated the formal name for God (yhwh, יְהוָֹה). This indicates the New Testament authors believed Jesus was God from the Old Testament (Matthew 3:3(if available), Luke 1:43Open in),


3.) Jesus called himself the “Son of man” 84 times in the four gospels – see Matthew 16:13. This was a Messianic title given in Daniel the Prophet (Daniel 7:13-14


4.) Jesus is the creator of the world which is something only God could do (John 1:3)


5.) The disciples believed he knew everything, an attribute of God (John 16:30)



) John 10:30 me and the father are one

7.) Jesus says I am the alpha the omega the beginning and end (eternal nature in rev 22:13)

8.) he said he can forgive sins and only God can do this (matt 9:11-8)



) (Matt 25: 31-46) he judges people during judgment day



10.) he said baptize in the name of the father the son and the holy spirit (Matt 28:19)



) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God (John 1)





11.) (Genesis 1:26-28) says let "US" make man in "OUR" image. This is referring to the father the son and holy spirit and not the angels as GOD doesn't need to consult his creation.





12.) (John 5:23) so that all may honor the son just as they honor the father

(John: 5:26) Just as the father has life in himself, so also he gave to his son the possession of life in himself.



13.) (Matt 11:27): no one knows the son except the father and no one knows the father except the son.



14.) (John: 10:30-33) I and the father are one.



15.) (Mark 14: 61-62): Are you the Christ the son of the blessed one: I AM, and you'll see the son of man sitting at the right hand of the mighty one and coming on the clouds of heaven. (son of man in Daniel's prophecy (Daniel 7:13-14). Claiming to be the pre existing Sovreign of the universe and foretelling that he would prove his claim by judging the very court that was condemning him.





16.) (John 10:11) I am the good shepard. This is a title that's assigned to God in the OT( Psalm 23:1)





17.) (John 5:27) Jesus claims to be the judge of all people a task only God performs Joel 3:12.



18.) He called himself the bridegroom in Mattheq 25:1 a role God had qith Israel (Isaih 6:5)



19.) He forgave sins (Mark 2:5) but only God can forgive sins (Psalm 103:8-12).



20.) He states to have equal authority with God (Matt 28:18)



21.) He encouraged prayer in his name John (14:13-14)



22.)He states you can heal the sick and cast out demons in his name (Mark 16:17 -19)



23.) He offers salvation if you believe in ihm (John 3:18)



24.) Authors referring to Jesus as GOD ( Rev 1:17, Deut 33:27).



25.) Authors refer to Jesus as creator of all things ( John 1:3, 1 Peter 4:19)



26.) Authors claim he's Omnipresent: (28:20)



) accepts and receives worship from people and Angels ( matt 14:33, Rev 7:11) Even though the bible clearly says to only worship the one true God Exodus 20:1-5, Deut 5:6-9)



) GOD calls Jesus Yah Allah in Arabic bible:

as You have given Him authority over all flesh, that He should give eternal life to as many as You have given Him. And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent. I have glorified You on the earth. I have finished the work which You have given Me to do. And now, O Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was. “I have manifested Your name to the men whom You have given Me out of the world. They were Yours, You gave them to Me, and they have kept Your word. Now they have known that all things which You have given Me are from You. For I have given to them the words which You have given Me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came forth from You; and they have believed that You sent Me. “I pray for them.



















































Arguments the satanic death cultists in Muslims make to lie to themselves and say Jesus can’t be GOD.



ARGUMENT 1 The main scripture the athiests, anti-thiests, satanists and musilmims (plagerized and bastardized version of judaism) to use as their form of flaqed proof and do not understand the context is

Matthew 24:36-44 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.




Given the context the apostles have come to christ and they asked him

about the buildings of jerusalem. He has just left the temple (matthew 23)

speaks of jesus just leaving the temple and so they're on the mount of

olives they're looking at the temple mount and the buildings in

jerusalem and they draw his attention to them and they say you know lord look at all these beautiful buildings and so forth. Jesus said i tell you the truth not one stone here will be left on top of another and that leads them to ask when's all this going to happen and when what's going to be the end of the age. So in the context of that Jesus says with some variation in the different accounts depending on what the emphasis was of the gospel writer but they say you know jesus says no man knows the day or the hour not the angels in heaven nor the son but the father only.



now there are several things to be observed here in the first place this isn't islam no matter how you interpret it. Jesus here categorically distinguishes himself from Men and angels and he ranks himself above them. no man knows not the not the men not angels and then he says not even the son but how do we account for him saying he doesn't know the day or the hour if in fact he is the son and here we have to remember what it means to call him the son of god it's not being used in a biological sense the bible repudiates that as clearly as the quran does you know Muhammad apparently thinks that jews and Christians believe that Jesus is a product of biological procreation or sexual relations uh but but the bible uh certainly doesn't teach that christians don't believe that christ was conceived in his mother's womb by the power of the holy spirit according to predictive prophecy as well as according to its fulfillment in matthew 1in in luke 1 and so forth



So when the new testament speaks of jesus as son of god it clearly means it in a divine sense in john 5:17-18 for example jesus calls the father calls god his father and claims to be doing what the father does namely works of providence, sustaining the world, working miracles and so forth and

this leads the Edomites to want to kill him because in calling god his own father. Tt says he was making himself equal with god and so the claim of sonship on the part of Jesus was a claim of equality. So how can Jesus who identifies himself as the son and identifies god as father which is abominated in islam, say that he doesn't know the day or the hour well?



Here’s what's important to remember is that Jesus originally spoke Hebrew and Aramaic. Aramaic would have been the common language of discourse among the Israelites. Hebrew would have been the scholarly language what they would have used in synagogue and so forth Jesus obviously knew Hebrew he stood up and read the scroll of isaiah in in the gospel of Luke for example and only uh somebody who could read in hebrew could do that,but in hebrew and Aramaic there is a form of a grammatical form known as a causative where when a person says uses the word knoq, it doesn't always have to refer to cognitive information or intellectual data. So for example this isn't an example of a causative but it's an example of the word no being used differently than simply intellectual knowledge in genesis 4 it says adam knew his wife eve and she conceived in borah's son clearly that doesn't mean that adam came to have intellectual knowledge of even as a result of that shebecame pregnant it's saying that he had an intimate relationship with her and that produced a child. Likewise in the book of amos god says of israel you only have i known among all the families of the earth. There it means that god loved them. He loved israel as his special people. So the word know can be used in various ways and i just gave one other example of that but when the causative form of that is used what it means is to make known.



now bringing that to jesus’ statement in matthew 24 when Jesus said no man

knows the day or the hour not the angels nor the son but the father only,

what he's saying is no one has the prerogative to make that day known.

Now contextually what Jesus is referring to is the coming his future coming to

receive his bride he even goes on to give a parable of 10 virgins. Remember that and of the bridegroom he's clearly talking about the coming of

the bridegroom for his bride or of the groom for his bride and

in that context he says nobody has theright to make that day known



in Israelite culture when it came time for a son to go and get his bride

the right belonged to the father to declare that day to the people.

The son couldn't tell people when that day was and so all Jesus is doing in matthew 24 is saying i am the son he is the father it's his prerogative as

the father to declare that day to men. That's why that passage doesn't refute

the spirit knowing the day or the hour because Jesus is talking about the

father's prerogative to declare the day which is the father's prerogative and

that's proven in acts 1 when the disciples said to Jesus are you

at this time going to restore the kingdom to israel and Jesus said it's not for you to know the times or seasons which the father has fixed by his own authority. He says you just be busy about the work that that god has given you so it's the father's prerogative to make that day known.



The classical way that people address that passage is to explain it in terms of Christ's two natures. I think that works in part because Christ obviously had a divine nature and a human nature and his human nature is really human he slept he wept he he died in his human nature it was a real human nature and so from that perspective he could grow and learn and so forth but i don't think that it's consistent with the context to make that the Interpretation given everything I stated and because that explanation wouldn't account for how the spirit is not included there because it's not talking about intellectual knowledge but declarative knowledge.



So, if you use proper context and understand how the word “know” has been used within the bible and using those definitions we can clearly see this passage doesn’t mean Jesus isn’t GOD. It’s simply a passage that Muslims take out of context prove their religious superiority and convert more fools form youtube videos.







ARGUMENT 2: Jesus curses the fig tree.



Jesus, in the Synoptic Gospels, went to a fig tree looking for food to eat (Matthew 21:18-22; Mark 11:12-14, 20-21). When he saw that there were no figs on the tree he cursed it. The problem with this story is that it wasn’t the season for figs according to Mark 11:13! If Jesus is God why didn’t he know that it wasn’t the season for figs? And why would he curse the tree when it wasn’t its fault that it wasn’t fig season?

Answer:


There is a very reasonable explanation why Jesus cursed the fig tree even though it wasn’t the season for figs. Even before the season, fig trees produce little knobs which are eaten by a passerby. As the late renowned NT scholar F.F. Bruce noted:

"The other miracle is the cursing of the barren fig tree (Mk. xi 12 ff.), a stumbling block to many. They feel that it is unlike Jesus, and so someone must have misunderstood what actually happened, or turned a spoken parable into an acted miracle, or something like that. Some, on the other hand, welcome the story because it shows that Jesus was human enough to get unreasonably annoyed on occasion. It appears, however, that a closer acquaintance with fig trees would have prevented such misunderstandings. ‘The time of the fig is not yet,’ says Mark, for it was just before Passover, about six weeks before the fully-formed fig appears. The fact that Mark adds these words shows that he knew what he was talking about. When the fig leaves appear about the end of March, they are accompanied by a crop of small knobs, called taqsh by the Arabs, a sort of fore-runner of the real figs. These taqsh are eaten by peasants and others when hungry. They drop off before the real fig is formed. But if the leaves appear unaccompanied by taqsh, there will be no figs that year. So it was evident to our Lord, when He turned aside to see if there were any of these taqsh on the fig-tree to assuage His hunger for the time being, that the absence of the taqsh meant that there would be no figs when the time of figs came. For all its fair foliage, it was a fruitless and a hopeless tree." (Bruce, Are The New Testament Documents Reliable? [Intervarsity Press; Downers Grove, Ill, fifth revised edition 1992], pp. 73-74; bold emphasis ours)

Another noted Evangelical scholar Craig S. Keener makes the following observation:

"At Passover season in late March or early April, fig trees are often in leaf on the eastern side of the Mount of Olives. At this time of year, such fig trees contained only green early figs (Arabs call them taqsh), which ripen around June but often drop off before that time, leaving only green leaves on the tree. A leafy tree lacking such early figs, however, would bear no figs at all that year," (Keener, A Commentary on the Gospel of Matthew [Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Company, July 1999], p. 504)

Thus, what was thought to be an example against the veracity of the NT ends up actually becoming a rather persuasive argument for its historical reliability! This exemplifies the minute accuracy of the Synoptic Gospels, both in time and place, i.e. this took place during the month of Passover, figs located on the eastern side of the Mount of Olives etc. It also provides evidence for an early dating of Matthew and Mark - or, at the very least, shows that they were dependent on very old and early material - well before the fall of Jerusalem. After all, the knowledge of these details would most likely have been lost or unknown to authors writing after the destruction of Jerusalem.

Moreover, the cursing of the fig tree is a played or acted out parable, one which warned the nation of Israel of impending judgment. In the words of Messianic scholar David Stern:

"… If Yeshua’s cursing and drying up the fig tree had been a petulant reaction to disappointment because he couldn't satisfy his hunger, it would be unworthy of anyone, let alone the Messiah. But Yeshua is making a point by means of prophetic drama, acted-out parable (possibly Lk 13:6-9). Tanakh examples include Yirmiyahu, who bought and broke a clay bottle (Jeremiah 19), and Yechezk'el, who made and then burned up a model of Jerusalem (Ezekiel 4-5); for a later New Testament instance see Ac 21:10-11.

Even out of season a fig tree in leaf - it must have been in leaf to be seen in the distance (v. 12) - holds forth the promise of fruit. The normal early season for figs in Israel is June, but the early unripe fruit (Song of Songs 2:13) begins to show itself even before the spring leaves appear on the branches, often before Passover.

We know that Yeshua expects God's people to put forth the fruit of righteousness, and that unproductive branches are thrown in the fire (Mt 7:16-20; 12:33; 13:4-9, 18-23; Yn 15:1-8). Thus, the drying-up of the fig tree is an acted-out warning. In keeping with Proverbs 27:18 (‘He who tends a fig tree will eat his fruit, and he who serves his master will be honored’) Yeshua here is teaching his followers what it means to serve their master, God: it means simply to have the kind of trust that comes from God (v. 22), and that they will wither away if they don’t. Yeshua neither acts from pique nor perform arbitrary miracles like a magician; every one of his supernatural acts has spiritual significance." (Stern, Jewish New Testament Commentary [Jewish New Testament Publications, Inc., Clarksville Maryland, Fifth edition 1996], pp. 95-96; bold emphasis ours)

In fact, the OT often uses the fig tree as a symbol of national Israel:

"I will take away their harvest, declares the LORD. There will be no grapes on the vine. There will be no figs on the tree, AND THEIR LEAVES WILL WITHER. What I have given them will be taken from them.’" Jeremiah 8:13

"You may say, 'The LORD has raised up prophets for us in Babylon,' but this is what the LORD says about the king who sits on David's throne and all the people who remain in this city, your countrymen who did not go with you into exile- yes, this is what the LORD Almighty says: 'I will send the sword, famine and plague against them and I will make them like poor figs that are so bad they cannot be eaten. I will pursue them with the sword, famine and plague and will make them abhorrent to all the kingdoms of the earth and an object of cursing and horror, of scorn and reproach, among all the nations where I drive them. For they have not listened to my words,' declares the LORD, 'words that I sent to them again and again by my servants the prophets. And you exiles have not listened either,' declares the LORD." Jeremiah 29:15-19

"When I found Israel, it was like finding grapes in the desert; when I saw your fathers, IT WAS LIKE SEEING THE EARLY FRUIT ON THE FIG TREE. But when they came to Baal Peor, they consecrated themselves to that shameful idol and became as vile as the thing they loved... Ephraim is blighted, their root is withered, they yield no fruit. Even if they bear children, I will slay their cherished offspring." Hosea 9:10, 16

"What misery is mine! I am like one who gathers summer fruit at the gleaning of the vineyard; there is no cluster of grapes to eat, none of the early figs that I crave. The godly have been swept from the land; not one upright man remains. All men lie in wait to shed blood; each hunts his brother with a net. Both hands are skilled in doing evil; the ruler demands gifts, the judge accepts bribes, the powerful dictate what they desire- they all conspire together. The best of them is like a brier, the most upright worse than a thorn hedge. The day of your watchmen has come, the day God visits you. Now is the time of their confusion." Micah 7:1-4

"All your fortresses are like fig trees with their first ripe fruit; when they are shaken, the figs fall into the mouth of the eater." Nahum 3:12

The foregoing helps clarify why Jesus did what he did. Christ came searching for what the OT says Yahweh searches after, namely, an indication that Israel was a fruitful tree and not barren and dry. Yet instead of finding the early fig (cf. Hosea 9:10; Micah 7:1), which would have demonstrated that Israel was spiritually alive and capable of bearing the fruit which satisfies God, Christ found the nation spiritually dead and barren. In light of Israel’s spiritual barrenness, God would cut down his fig tree, his very own vine, and burn it:

"Then he told this parable: ‘A man had a fig tree, planted in his vineyard, and he went to look for fruit on it, but did not find any. So he said to the man who took care of the vineyard, "For three years now I've been coming to look for fruit on this fig tree and haven't found any. Cut it down! Why should it use up the soil?" "Sir," the man replied, "leave it alone for one more year, and I'll dig around it and fertilize it. If it bears fruit next year, fine! If not, then cut it down."’" Luke 13:6-9

"He then began to speak to them in parables: 'A man planted a vineyard. He put a wall around it, dug a pit for the winepress and built a watchtower. Then he rented the vineyard to some farmers and went away on a journey. At harvest time he sent a servant to the tenants to collect from them some of the fruit of the vineyard. But they seized him, beat him and sent him away empty-handed. Then he sent another servant to them; they struck this man on the head and treated him shamefully. He sent still another, and that one they killed. He sent many others; some of them they beat, others they killed. He had one left to send, a son, whom he loved. He sent him last of all, saying, "They will respect my son." But the tenants said to one another, "This is the heir. Come, let's kill him, and the inheritance will be ours." So they took him and killed him, and threw him out of the vineyard. What then will the owner of the vineyard do? He will come and kill those tenants and give the vineyard to others.’" Mark 12:1-9

"O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing. Look, your house is left to you desolate. For I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, ‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.’" Matthew 23:37-39

"As he approached Jerusalem and saw the city, he wept over it and said, ‘If you, even you, had only known on this day what would bring you peace-but now it is hidden from your eyes. The days will come upon you when your enemies will build an embankment against you and encircle you and hem you in on every side. They will dash you to the ground, you and the children within your walls. They will not leave one stone on another, because you did not recognize the time of God's coming to you.’" Luke 19:41-44

This was the meaning behind Jesus’ cursing the fig tree, as a sign that God came looking for spiritual fruitfulness among his covenant people but saw none, and would therefore bring destruction upon them.

As it stands, there is no problem with Jesus cursing the fig tree, nor does this act undermine his absolute perfect Deity.



































ARGUMENT 3: Why Does Jesus Say "The Father Is Greater Than I" In John 14:28?



Muslims believe this passage means that Jesus can’t be God if he admits that the father is greater than him.






John 14:28





“You heard me say, ‘I am going away and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I.



He says rejoice that I’m going to the father because the father is greater than I. He doesn’t mean the father is better than me because he has a deity and Jesus doesn’t. This Gospel introduces Yahshua as God the one who created all things and became flesh for our redemption. Let’s forget the prologue and assume John qill contradict himself 13 chapters later.



John 14:12-14 12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believe on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.

14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.



This doesn’t mean greater works in terms of superior or better quality than the works than Jesus performed but the same works that he did but a greater number or quantity, not quality. The reason y they can do greater works than he is because he goes to the father.



So when Jesus goes to the father when you ask in my name and Jesus hears your prayers and I’ll be the one doing the works through you per your request.





John 14:23 23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.





So Jesus claimed to be present personally and hears and answers all prayers of all true believers to the same extent and to the same degree that the father is with every true believer. This assumes that Jesus is omnipresent and omniscient to know who the true believers are and all powerful to answer all requests, no matter how many people are asking. To be omnipresent, omniscient, omnipotent and to hear all prayers makes you god. So he claims the attributes and functions of GOD but still not the father as he’s distinct from the father and one with him and the fathers ability and do the very things that he can do which are the only things GOD can do.



Therefore this isn’t a statement of the father being greater than Jesus in terms of the father being a deity and the son not having the deity as the deity is with him from the beginning to the end (alpha and omega). But greater in terms of status, because while Jesus remained on earth he remained on earth he’s in a state of humility as he’s assumed a status as a servant and says to them if you love me you’ll rejoice because as long as I remain here, the father will be greater in status but when I go to the father that will change.



John 17:5 5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.



So Jesus says glorify me in your presence, when I return to heaven, the glory you posses is the glory you’ll bestow on me in your presence. Secondly, that’s the glory I had already with you before the world was created. Jesus affirms 2 things in that he was there alongside the father before the creation of the world and he was there alongside the father in the same glory and that’s the glory he sat aside but will regain and that’s what he meant, if I remain I earth, the father’s greater in status because the father heavenly glory. When he goes to the father he’ll no longer be in this state of humility where sinners beat me to the point of death and nail me to the cross, I’ll be basking in the same glory of the father where all inhabitants in heaven will behold my glory and know I am the son of God Who's one with the father.



This passage proves that Islam is false and Muhammad is an anti-crhist. Because Jesus says the father and he’s the son who shares the same glory that the father possesses all of which Muhammad the false prophet denied because Muhammad said Allah isn’t the father and Jesus isn’t the son.



Another way to look at this is to ask the question is your boss greater than you? Yes by his authority. Are you greater than your dog in the eyes of your creator? Yes by nature. Then there are many ways one can be greater than. So to just take this scripture completely out of context is a failing Muslim tactic that we use to embarrass them and their false god.







ARGUMENT 4: ONLY GOD is good







Mark 10:18?

And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.



Again, the Muslims never use context ever. Once you go into the context you can debunk their lies and deceptions:



Mark:



SUMMARY:



There are probably hundreds of biblical passages in the bible where Jesus claims to be GOD in his actions or words, indirectly claims to be God, people or authors claim directly or indirectly that Jesus is God in their actions or words and he doesn’t need to use the specific vocabulary requirements of Muslims or any other people or group to demonstrate his deity as it’s done adequately throughout the bible. The statement the son doesn’t know the day or the hour and only the father does isn’t a claim of ignorance to know informational knowledge but declarative knowledge. Jesus saying the father is greater than I isn’t due to the father having deity and not the son but the father having status over Jesus while temporarily in human form as a self sacrifice for humanity as a servant.





































SUMMARY:



There are probably hundreds of biblical passages in the bible where Jesus claims to be GOD in his actions and or words, indirectly claims to be God, people or authors claim directly or indirectly that Jesus is God in their actions and or words and he doesn’t need to use the specific vocabulary requirements of Muslims or any other people or group to demonstrate his deity as it’s done adequately throughout the bible.Taking single scriptures out of context to promote your false satanic archaic death cult is not only intellectually dishonest but pure evil as is your God the devil.



The scripture on the son doesn’t know the day or the hour and only the father does isn’t a claim of ignorance to know intellectual knowledge but declarative knowledge. Jesus saying the father is greater than I isn’t due to the father having deity and not the son but the father having status over Jesus while temporarily in human form as a self sacrifice for humanity as a servant.





The scripture in Mark on only God is good (even though YAHSHUA calls himself GOD a billion times already before this, Jesus is speaking in a hypothetical scenario in hey how can you call me good and only god is good so follow me and get rid of all your things if you believe I am good and he walked away because he had many riches.



Muslims will say the scriptures have been corrupted but Muhammad says the Torah is the legit word of Allah and Allah says his words can’t be corrupted in the Koran. Muhammad had access to the same Torah we have now in the Septuagint and Codex from the 3rd and 4th century AD.

you know, maybe jesus was just a wizard. The pharaohs homies could turn their staffs into snakes. The same thing God empowered Noah did so Magicians can do similar stuff god can just at a smaller scale.

Like wtf does Jesus do? he fixes ugly people's skin, divides breath infinitely and walks on water. Thats something a wizard can do.

maybe he was just a high skill magic man creating a cult
@st.hamudi but 6‘5
 

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