Proof that everything is determined by the One - principle of unity, by Proclus. Refute this if you can.

[Aristotélēs]

PROP. 1. Every manifold in some way participates unity

For suppose a manifold in no way participating unity. Neither this manifold as a whole nor any of its several parts will be one ; each part will itself be a manifold of parts, and so to infinity; and of this infinity of parts each, once more, will be infinitely manifold; for a manifold which in no way participates any unity, neither as a whole nor in respect of its parts severally, will be infinite in every way and in respect of every part. For each part of the manifold- take which you will-must be either one or not-one ; and if not- one, then either many or nothing. But if each part be nothing, the whole is nothing ; if many, it is made up of an infinity of infinites. This is impossible: for, on the one hand, nothing which is is made up of an infinity of infinites (since the infinite cannot be exceeded, yet the single part is exceeded by the sum) ; on the other hand, nothing can be made up of parts which are nothing. Every manifold, therefore, in some way participates unity.

@theRetard , you will like this

 

[theRetard]

it's somewhat like parmenides monism

 

[MouthBreathingElite]

 

[Aristotélēs]

it's somewhat like parmenides monism

Yes. The unity of thought & intellect. It does allow multiplicity of entities though since it's principle monism.

Proclus makes this quite clear in the next proposition

PROP. 2. All that participates unity is both one and not-one. For inasmuch as it cannot be pure unity (since participation in unity implies a distinct participant), its' participation' means that it has unity as an affect, and has undergone a process of becoming
one. Now if it be nothing else but its own unity, it is a bare' one' and so cannot participate unity but must be pure unity. But if it has some character other than oneness, in virtue of that character it is not-one, and so not unity unqualified. Thus being one, and yet (as participating unity) in itself not-one, it is both one and not-one. It is in fact unity with something added, and is in virtue of the addition not-one, although one as affected by unity. Everything, therefore, which participates unity is both one and not-one.

 

[taai]

Actually has nothing to do

 

[Aristotélēs]

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[theRetard]

Yes. The unity of thought & intellect. It does allow multiplicity of entities though since it's principle monism.

Proclus makes this quite clear in the next proposition

PROP. 2. All that participates unity is both one and not-one. For inasmuch as it cannot be pure unity (since participation in unity implies a distinct participant), its' participation' means that it has unity as an affect, and has undergone a process of becoming
one. Now if it be nothing else but its own unity, it is a bare' one' and so cannot participate unity but must be pure unity. But if it has some character other than oneness, in virtue of that character it is not-one, and so not unity unqualified. Thus being one, and yet (as participating unity) in itself not-one, it is both one and not-one. It is in fact unity with something added, and is in virtue of the addition not-one, although one as affected by unity. Everything, therefore, which participates unity is both one and not-one.

so it means that pluralism can exist inside monism? from what i comprehended

 

[Aristotélēs]

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False. The individual is the substratum of all that is universal or particular. Without this, the universal or particular would be flee floating & attached to none or identical to none.

This is such a basic mistake & it goes all the way back to Heraclitus, who regarded everything in flux. But such a perspective is unintelligible. If taken seriously, it even destroys the category of universal & particular, since this category is also an individuation

 

[taai]

False. The individual is the substratum of all that is universal or particular. Without this, the universal or particular would be flee floating & attached to none or identical to none.

This is such a basic mistake & it goes all the way back to Heraclitus, who regarded everything in flux. But such a perspective is unintelligible. If taken seriously, it even destroys the category of universal & particular, since this category is also an individuation

This is cool. It's hard for me to fit mentally because the context of the diagram is different, but I didn't know about this, I'll take a look

 

[Aristotélēs]

so it means that pluralism can exist inside monism? from what i comprehended

Entitative/Substance pluralism is compatible with principle monism. Niether Aristotle nor Plato subscribed to substance monism btw.

The principle of unity is what grounds the essence/forms of all beings. It is the Good or Prime Mover.

 

[Skullmaxxer]

PROP. 1. Every manifold in some way participates unity

For suppose a manifold in no way participating unity. Neither this manifold as a whole nor any of its several parts will be one ; each part will itself be a manifold of parts, and so to infinity; and of this infinity of parts each, once more, will be infinitely manifold; for a manifold which in no way participates any unity, neither as a whole nor in respect of its parts severally, will be infinite in every way and in respect of every part. For each part of the manifold- take which you will-must be either one or not-one ; and if not- one, then either many or nothing. But if each part be nothing, the whole is nothing ; if many, it is made up of an infinity of infinites. This is impossible: for, on the one hand, nothing which is is made up of an infinity of infinites (since the infinite cannot be exceeded, yet the single part is exceeded by the sum) ; on the other hand, nothing can be made up of parts which are nothing. Every manifold, therefore, in some way participates unity.

@theRetard , you will like this

Interesting.

 

[theRetard]

Entitative/Substance pluralism is compatible with principle monism. Niether Aristotle nor Plato subscribed to substance monism btw.

The principle of unity is what grounds the essence/forms of all beings. It is the Good or Prime Mover.

i know that aristotle criticized eleats