Proof that Flatplane mouthguards work for ascension. PLEASE BUY ONE

I wasn’t planning on making this post for another year or two, since it’s been only two months, and I’m not comfortable taking pictures of my face yet, but I can testify it has transformed me, not only facially but physically, my whole body. But enough of that I’ll be showing photos of before and after, what’s wrong with specifics things or not, etc.
This will not be an high quality post as I’m tired and my usual bedtime is 9 it’s 10:53 am rn, But here it goes.

Take a look at this picture

My ears are literally in my neck, believe it or not this isn’t a funny photoshop attempt like this so real, I’m also heavily lip puckering here because I was extremely recessed and facially unattractive with a relaxed face, take a look at my nose how slanted it is and virtually no philtrum lol, the lip puckering added onto this,

View attachment 3722832
Now I’ll show you how I looked, I would say I was actually attractive even tho I was frauding with my muscles pretty much and head tiltage, although the head tiltage wasn’t because I was doing it on purpose, it was because my neck muscles or something, everything was messed up dude, like really. It’s kinda like baby stickley when he talks abt muscle control, this is just frauding lol, you relax your face and ur chopped, this was me, but enough talking here’s how I looked like in the front


you are free to look at the vid but I’ll also include an older photo before I buzzed my head. View attachment 3722854
Here’s this picture, insane UEE and I’m mixed, black and white, but I was developing like I have more black in me than white if that makes sense lol, I just look like.. idk more black in a way, specially because of the lip puckering and the head tiltage making my nose look wider. I’m Cuban, mom side is like native to Cuba or something but her dad is from Spain too I believe but he was born in Cuba, and my dad is also born and raised in Cuba but his great great grandparents immigrated from Spain to Cuba.

Then there’s this picture
View attachment 3722861
Yes you could say it’s a bad pic and it is, but my fave is fully relaxed here, like as relaxed as I could get it, bad uee good philtrum I would say, bad symmetry and my nose again man, just looks wide and like a pig, I want you guys to imagine all the pressure this was putting on my brain, I was failing school I failed 9th could barely concentrate, like I was a failure and now I blame it on extreme compression of the brain caused by my biomechanics as Ken would say, “collapsing” but anyways enough of this, let’s get to me trying to fix it.

Here’s one of the first times I angled my head lower to make it look like how a NT person would have it. View attachment 3722862
In this pic, my ears are finally in the correct positioning, my forehead is great, but feminine due to lack of actual development, chin cooked, that fat under my jaw is my tongue and barely any fat lol, IE pretty much, no space for it, and again I was puckering here too lol. I would say I had slight foward head posture, and I never sticked with it Because I hanged out with my friends at the mall where a lot of people I knew went, and I’m not going to look chopped in front of my ex and all the Stacie’s, so I, like always, returned to my “unnatural” head positioning which was already destroying me.

View attachment 3722869
In this picture, I somehow managed to look better? But I think it was because I stopped going out as much and I gave it a solid maybe week or a little bit more, like me actually putting my head like that, and maybe that did something with the constant stretch of my neck muscles, stretching soft tissues allowing my bones to go back to their natural state, again I was puckering my lips here, and my maxilla destroyed, although it isn’t much better now.



Anyways back to the first picture, you guys saw how my ears where literally pointing west, idk how I wasn’t dead, I felt sort of dead, kind off, but anyways here’s me now ig, again before you say anything, this is only 2 months or prob even less after I bought the mouthguard, I’m self conscious and will be self conscious until the end of this journey, this was a big reason why I didn’t want to make the post now even tho I’ve seen changes, and I wanted to wait until the very end, because I knew even if the changes are saw where there, I would still be self conscious and not content with my current results when I knew if I waited a year or two, I would be unrecognizable, I have not taken a lot of pictures and videos, again bc of my self consciousness, so the ones I am about to show you might say they aren’t good quality or something, and the most straight away change you will see is my side profile, and eyes, and nose, which were the most mindblowing results and The first thing I will show, is a front video, i posted this on my insta, I was relaxed, except I was squinting a bit, Here’s the video,


I understand if you guys take this with a grain of sand, but like I said, I’m just not yet confident enough to take more. Anyways enough of the confidence chat, here’s the side profile,

View attachment 3722898
The first thing I want you to notice is the lips, they are completely relaxed, like as relaxed as they can be, I can’t say how happy I am to Atleast look normal without having to force anything. I’m going to show you guys the previous lip where I was puckering and then now, the space from my lip and nose, relaxed vs puckering View attachment 3722907
View attachment 3722938 Insane difference man, just insane, and mind you? I was completely relaxed, I will also say this, my face is almost completely symmetrical now, and no I won’t be showing proof as like I’ve said previously, still not confident, but I really cannot tell you guys, how big of a difference it had made in a short amount of time. If it can help me why can it not help you? Just buy it dude doesn’t even have to be reviv just any flatplane mouthguard, although I recommend reviv because of true size dimensions and how you never know if other mouthguards have pfas or not, also if it breaks they give you free replacements up to two times, so just buy it, don’t get braces or palate expanders or anything, dont get surgery at all, don’t get anything, don’t just wear the mouthguard for a year or two, you will see during this timeframe you will get AMAZING results, I’ve already gotten amazing results that people would think is only possible thru surgery or what not in two months, IMAGINE A YEAR, IMAGINE 2! Dm me for any questions and if too many people dm me and I don’t reply I’ll just post a video with wearing instructions, but besides this, as a bonus I’ll add even more old pictures of me, and how my eye area has improved. Thank you for reading this whole thing!

(Eye area video)


Like I’ve said, I’m still recessed, still not where I want to be, and in the after side profile pic I’m squinting slightly, but anyways, the changed are obvious, my hair has grown a lot so it does cover my ears.
View attachment 3723002
(Also before anybody says (oh he still has alot of uee based on this video) no, the only reason any uee showed here was because I was tilting my head to the side to show my ears bc I was trying to look at myself, just had to get it out so I didn’t have to respond to everyone in the comments.:D

Became a HTB instead :lul::lul::lul::lul:
 
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looks good to me
I mean idk which one he’s talking about, when I had long hair it was alright but now it’s just a very grown out buzzcut and idrk what to do with it so I understand why it looks chopped
 
pucker those kissable lips bb
 
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Hmmmmmm
 
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I see this everyday and it’s interesting
But wtf is inflating the skull ?
Wdym keep the occlusion open
wtf ?
 
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I see this everyday and it’s interesting
But wtf is inflating the skull ?
Wdym keep the occlusion open
wtf ?
Dude,,,, just trust me bro, I believe this is one of the best things anybody can do for their life’s, #1 being accepting Jesus Christ, but besides this, just give it a try, just wear it consistently couple hours during the day and while you sleep at night
 
Dude,,,, just trust me bro, I believe this is one of the best things anybody can do for their life’s, #1 being accepting Jesus Christ, but besides this, just give it a try, just wear it consistently couple hours during the day and while you sleep at night
lll just wear it when I’m not out and sleeping
 
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lll just wear it when I’m not out and sleeping
Make sure it’s everyday!! You have to wear it a bit during the day, if not stretch a lot; the wear while sleeping
 
thank you king as you can see my rep is cooked
all of our rep is cooked at the end of the day, we have to give support during these tough times:feelswah:
 
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But wtf is inflating the skull ?
"Inflating the skull" means increasing the Curve of Spee and stretching cranial soft tissue.
Wdym keep the occlusion open
Keeping the occlusion unlocked means making the teeth come in contact through a flat surface. If you don't have a rubber mouthguard, your upper and lower jaws will lock because they are already pre-aligned. When you have a flat mouthguard, they will be able to slide when needed. It will happen over the course of months to years(if you're really messed up).
lll just wear it when I’m not out and sleeping
You should wear it for at least 14 hours a day. You won't choke on it dude. Wear it while sleeping
 
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Does it help straighten the bottom teeth?
 
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should i get reviv 1 or 2, how long did it take to see progress in the maxilla and mandible area, also will it fix tmj
 
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should i get reviv 1 or 2, how long did it take to see progress in the maxilla and mandible area, also will it fix tmj
I would get 2 and the progress depends on the person tbh and yes Ken does claim it will fix TMJ, join their community you should get a lot of answers to the questions, watch this video
 
Dude… don’t even hear it from me, there’s a gazillion vids on where I found this originally, just watch the vids and you would understand better than I can explain it tbh, I’m pretty sure I said how it works, but if anything just join the guys thingy it’s a Community on skool, I’m sure you’ve heard of it, clavicular has a community there, here’s the link btw, just request and they give you a free month.

there’s a difference between having the teeth too far apart, not supporting this, will only cause the curve of spee to flatten, but when you have a mouthguard, you support it, if that makes sense, in all seriousness, Ken says, that he does stretches, to continue stretching his body now, and he uses the mouthguard to support it, that’s what he does, in the beginning he used it for stretching itself, not it’s only to support it from not closing, this is why having teeth apart just won’t do it, and right now, my mouthguard is barely adding any height, which is a bad thing, the stronger the material is the less it gives away to soft tissue, and the more height? The more of a stretch if you catch ma drift, and I’m not sure what you mean by natural occlusion, if it’s flatplane, this unlocks, the occlusion, this means that the teeth aren’t being locked, look at it like things, your teeth have cusps, if you bite down, this means ur jaw isn’t moving, like ur teeth are stuck in a certain position, which in Ken’s view is bad, so we need to unlock the occlusion to allow the teeth to upright, and use a mouthguard to stretch and hold this space being created, that’s why it actually gives you a posterior open bite, ur actually raising ur curve of spee.
How will mouthguards stretch my teeth tho? Im biting down/laying/resting my teeth on it no? How is that stretching it?
 
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I wasn’t planning on making this post for another year or two, since it’s been only two months, and I’m not comfortable taking pictures of my face yet, but I can testify it has transformed me, not only facially but physically, my whole body. But enough of that I’ll be showing photos of before and after, what’s wrong with specifics things or not, etc.
This will not be an high quality post as I’m tired and my usual bedtime is 9 it’s 10:53 am rn, But here it goes.

Take a look at this picture

My ears are literally in my neck, believe it or not this isn’t a funny photoshop attempt like this so real, I’m also heavily lip puckering here because I was extremely recessed and facially unattractive with a relaxed face, take a look at my nose how slanted it is and virtually no philtrum lol, the lip puckering added onto this,

View attachment 3722832
Now I’ll show you how I looked, I would say I was actually attractive even tho I was frauding with my muscles pretty much and head tiltage, although the head tiltage wasn’t because I was doing it on purpose, it was because my neck muscles or something, everything was messed up dude, like really. It’s kinda like baby stickley when he talks abt muscle control, this is just frauding lol, you relax your face and ur chopped, this was me, but enough talking here’s how I looked like in the front


you are free to look at the vid but I’ll also include an older photo before I buzzed my head. View attachment 3722854
Here’s this picture, insane UEE and I’m mixed, black and white, but I was developing like I have more black in me than white if that makes sense lol, I just look like.. idk more black in a way, specially because of the lip puckering and the head tiltage making my nose look wider. I’m Cuban, mom side is like native to Cuba or something but her dad is from Spain too I believe but he was born in Cuba, and my dad is also born and raised in Cuba but his great great grandparents immigrated from Spain to Cuba.

Then there’s this picture
View attachment 3722861
Yes you could say it’s a bad pic and it is, but my fave is fully relaxed here, like as relaxed as I could get it, bad uee good philtrum I would say, bad symmetry and my nose again man, just looks wide and like a pig, I want you guys to imagine all the pressure this was putting on my brain, I was failing school I failed 9th could barely concentrate, like I was a failure and now I blame it on extreme compression of the brain caused by my biomechanics as Ken would say, “collapsing” but anyways enough of this, let’s get to me trying to fix it.

Here’s one of the first times I angled my head lower to make it look like how a NT person would have it. View attachment 3722862
In this pic, my ears are finally in the correct positioning, my forehead is great, but feminine due to lack of actual development, chin cooked, that fat under my jaw is my tongue and barely any fat lol, IE pretty much, no space for it, and again I was puckering here too lol. I would say I had slight foward head posture, and I never sticked with it Because I hanged out with my friends at the mall where a lot of people I knew went, and I’m not going to look chopped in front of my ex and all the Stacie’s, so I, like always, returned to my “unnatural” head positioning which was already destroying me.

View attachment 3722869
In this picture, I somehow managed to look better? But I think it was because I stopped going out as much and I gave it a solid maybe week or a little bit more, like me actually putting my head like that, and maybe that did something with the constant stretch of my neck muscles, stretching soft tissues allowing my bones to go back to their natural state, again I was puckering my lips here, and my maxilla destroyed, although it isn’t much better now.



Anyways back to the first picture, you guys saw how my ears where literally pointing west, idk how I wasn’t dead, I felt sort of dead, kind off, but anyways here’s me now ig, again before you say anything, this is only 2 months or prob even less after I bought the mouthguard, I’m self conscious and will be self conscious until the end of this journey, this was a big reason why I didn’t want to make the post now even tho I’ve seen changes, and I wanted to wait until the very end, because I knew even if the changes are saw where there, I would still be self conscious and not content with my current results when I knew if I waited a year or two, I would be unrecognizable, I have not taken a lot of pictures and videos, again bc of my self consciousness, so the ones I am about to show you might say they aren’t good quality or something, and the most straight away change you will see is my side profile, and eyes, and nose, which were the most mindblowing results and The first thing I will show, is a front video, i posted this on my insta, I was relaxed, except I was squinting a bit, Here’s the video,


I understand if you guys take this with a grain of sand, but like I said, I’m just not yet confident enough to take more. Anyways enough of the confidence chat, here’s the side profile,

View attachment 3722898
The first thing I want you to notice is the lips, they are completely relaxed, like as relaxed as they can be, I can’t say how happy I am to Atleast look normal without having to force anything. I’m going to show you guys the previous lip where I was puckering and then now, the space from my lip and nose, relaxed vs puckering View attachment 3722907
View attachment 3722938 Insane difference man, just insane, and mind you? I was completely relaxed, I will also say this, my face is almost completely symmetrical now, and no I won’t be showing proof as like I’ve said previously, still not confident, but I really cannot tell you guys, how big of a difference it had made in a short amount of time. If it can help me why can it not help you? Just buy it dude doesn’t even have to be reviv just any flatplane mouthguard, although I recommend reviv because of true size dimensions and how you never know if other mouthguards have pfas or not, also if it breaks they give you free replacements up to two times, so just buy it, don’t get braces or palate expanders or anything, dont get surgery at all, don’t get anything, don’t just wear the mouthguard for a year or two, you will see during this timeframe you will get AMAZING results, I’ve already gotten amazing results that people would think is only possible thru surgery or what not in two months, IMAGINE A YEAR, IMAGINE 2! Dm me for any questions and if too many people dm me and I don’t reply I’ll just post a video with wearing instructions, but besides this, as a bonus I’ll add even more old pictures of me, and how my eye area has improved. Thank you for reading this whole thing!

(Eye area video)


Like I’ve said, I’m still recessed, still not where I want to be, and in the after side profile pic I’m squinting slightly, but anyways, the changed are obvious, my hair has grown a lot so it does cover my ears.
View attachment 3723002
(Also before anybody says (oh he still has alot of uee based on this video) no, the only reason any uee showed here was because I was tilting my head to the side to show my ears bc I was trying to look at myself, just had to get it out so I didn’t have to respond to everyone in the comments.:D

W ascension bro I liked your long hair it always mogs for female appeal but it gets 0 respect from men who aren’t confident with their masculinity haha
 
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I wasn’t planning on making this post for another year or two, since it’s been only two months, and I’m not comfortable taking pictures of my face yet, but I can testify it has transformed me, not only facially but physically, my whole body. But enough of that I’ll be showing photos of before and after, what’s wrong with specifics things or not, etc.
This will not be an high quality post as I’m tired and my usual bedtime is 9 it’s 10:53 am rn, But here it goes.

Take a look at this picture

My ears are literally in my neck, believe it or not this isn’t a funny photoshop attempt like this so real, I’m also heavily lip puckering here because I was extremely recessed and facially unattractive with a relaxed face, take a look at my nose how slanted it is and virtually no philtrum lol, the lip puckering added onto this,

View attachment 3722832
Now I’ll show you how I looked, I would say I was actually attractive even tho I was frauding with my muscles pretty much and head tiltage, although the head tiltage wasn’t because I was doing it on purpose, it was because my neck muscles or something, everything was messed up dude, like really. It’s kinda like baby stickley when he talks abt muscle control, this is just frauding lol, you relax your face and ur chopped, this was me, but enough talking here’s how I looked like in the front


you are free to look at the vid but I’ll also include an older photo before I buzzed my head. View attachment 3722854
Here’s this picture, insane UEE and I’m mixed, black and white, but I was developing like I have more black in me than white if that makes sense lol, I just look like.. idk more black in a way, specially because of the lip puckering and the head tiltage making my nose look wider. I’m Cuban, mom side is like native to Cuba or something but her dad is from Spain too I believe but he was born in Cuba, and my dad is also born and raised in Cuba but his great great grandparents immigrated from Spain to Cuba.

Then there’s this picture
View attachment 3722861
Yes you could say it’s a bad pic and it is, but my fave is fully relaxed here, like as relaxed as I could get it, bad uee good philtrum I would say, bad symmetry and my nose again man, just looks wide and like a pig, I want you guys to imagine all the pressure this was putting on my brain, I was failing school I failed 9th could barely concentrate, like I was a failure and now I blame it on extreme compression of the brain caused by my biomechanics as Ken would say, “collapsing” but anyways enough of this, let’s get to me trying to fix it.

Here’s one of the first times I angled my head lower to make it look like how a NT person would have it. View attachment 3722862
In this pic, my ears are finally in the correct positioning, my forehead is great, but feminine due to lack of actual development, chin cooked, that fat under my jaw is my tongue and barely any fat lol, IE pretty much, no space for it, and again I was puckering here too lol. I would say I had slight foward head posture, and I never sticked with it Because I hanged out with my friends at the mall where a lot of people I knew went, and I’m not going to look chopped in front of my ex and all the Stacie’s, so I, like always, returned to my “unnatural” head positioning which was already destroying me.

View attachment 3722869
In this picture, I somehow managed to look better? But I think it was because I stopped going out as much and I gave it a solid maybe week or a little bit more, like me actually putting my head like that, and maybe that did something with the constant stretch of my neck muscles, stretching soft tissues allowing my bones to go back to their natural state, again I was puckering my lips here, and my maxilla destroyed, although it isn’t much better now.



Anyways back to the first picture, you guys saw how my ears where literally pointing west, idk how I wasn’t dead, I felt sort of dead, kind off, but anyways here’s me now ig, again before you say anything, this is only 2 months or prob even less after I bought the mouthguard, I’m self conscious and will be self conscious until the end of this journey, this was a big reason why I didn’t want to make the post now even tho I’ve seen changes, and I wanted to wait until the very end, because I knew even if the changes are saw where there, I would still be self conscious and not content with my current results when I knew if I waited a year or two, I would be unrecognizable, I have not taken a lot of pictures and videos, again bc of my self consciousness, so the ones I am about to show you might say they aren’t good quality or something, and the most straight away change you will see is my side profile, and eyes, and nose, which were the most mindblowing results and The first thing I will show, is a front video, i posted this on my insta, I was relaxed, except I was squinting a bit, Here’s the video,


I understand if you guys take this with a grain of sand, but like I said, I’m just not yet confident enough to take more. Anyways enough of the confidence chat, here’s the side profile,

View attachment 3722898
The first thing I want you to notice is the lips, they are completely relaxed, like as relaxed as they can be, I can’t say how happy I am to Atleast look normal without having to force anything. I’m going to show you guys the previous lip where I was puckering and then now, the space from my lip and nose, relaxed vs puckering View attachment 3722907
View attachment 3722938 Insane difference man, just insane, and mind you? I was completely relaxed, I will also say this, my face is almost completely symmetrical now, and no I won’t be showing proof as like I’ve said previously, still not confident, but I really cannot tell you guys, how big of a difference it had made in a short amount of time. If it can help me why can it not help you? Just buy it dude doesn’t even have to be reviv just any flatplane mouthguard, although I recommend reviv because of true size dimensions and how you never know if other mouthguards have pfas or not, also if it breaks they give you free replacements up to two times, so just buy it, don’t get braces or palate expanders or anything, dont get surgery at all, don’t get anything, don’t just wear the mouthguard for a year or two, you will see during this timeframe you will get AMAZING results, I’ve already gotten amazing results that people would think is only possible thru surgery or what not in two months, IMAGINE A YEAR, IMAGINE 2! Dm me for any questions and if too many people dm me and I don’t reply I’ll just post a video with wearing instructions, but besides this, as a bonus I’ll add even more old pictures of me, and how my eye area has improved. Thank you for reading this whole thing!

(Eye area video)


Like I’ve said, I’m still recessed, still not where I want to be, and in the after side profile pic I’m squinting slightly, but anyways, the changed are obvious, my hair has grown a lot so it does cover my ears.
View attachment 3723002
(Also before anybody says (oh he still has alot of uee based on this video) no, the only reason any uee showed here was because I was tilting my head to the side to show my ears bc I was trying to look at myself, just had to get it out so I didn’t have to respond to everyone in the comments.:D

Can you acctually not wear this if you have retainers? And is it enough to just wear it during the night or is that not enough?
 
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Can you acctually not wear this if you have retainers? And is it enough to just wear it during the night or is that not enough?
i personally wouldn’t wear it unless you get rid of the retainers somehow, because ur teeth can’t move n such,and to answer the other question, Ken himself only wears it during the night to hold the new bite BUT he stretches like crazy and I really doubt you will do this, so I would wear it during the day aswell 2-5 hours OR wear plackers lol you can’t also make a polymorph clip on you can wear the whole day and it’s not that noticeable and you can also buy a cheap mouthguard that adds height, cur the ends and put that in ur molars to also add height
 
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i personally wouldn’t wear it unless you get rid of the retainers somehow, because ur teeth can’t move n such,and to answer the other question, Ken himself only wears it during the night to hold the new bite BUT he stretches like crazy and I really doubt you will do this, so I would wear it during the day aswell 2-5 hours OR wear plackers lol you can’t also make a polymorph clip on you can wear the whole day and it’s not that noticeable and you can also buy a cheap mouthguard that adds height, cur the ends and put that in ur molars to also add height
Guess i cant use this then since i cant get rid of the retainers
 
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W ascension bro I liked your long hair it always mogs for female appeal but it gets 0 respect from men who aren’t confident with their masculinity haha
Thank you so much and also i agree on both parts for suuure ik what ur talking about hahaha
 
Guess i cant use this then since i cant get rid of the retainers
Aw man, it’s fine don’t worry, if you can’t do anything about it you can’t do anything don’t stress about it you know, wether you can’t bc of ur parents, you could try convincing them but, veryhard to do.
if you ever decide to get rid of them this will be here, and I believe you may start experiencing what I call negative side effects of braces hahaha things like brain fog or issues w health in general,, but only time will tell
 
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Aw man, it’s fine don’t worry, if you can’t do anything about it you can’t do anything don’t stress about it you know, wether you can’t bc of ur parents, you could try convincing them but, veryhard to do.
if you ever decide to get rid of them this will be here, and I believe you may start experiencing what I call negative side effects of braces hahaha things like brain fog or issues w health in general,, but only time will tell
I had braces for a long time. I started with normal ones during the night only on the lower segment, then to upper and lower and then to fixed braces. Was "finished" with treatement some time back and got the retainers, was supposed to wear braces for some time but i couldnt be bothered to do that. Gonna try convincing my parents but probably wont work, and i guess it works when youre older too like you said so i can just do it at a later point in time too
 
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I had braces for a long time. I started with normal ones during the night only on the lower segment, then to upper and lower and then to fixed braces. Was "finished" with treatement some time back and got the retainers, was supposed to wear braces for some time but i couldnt be bothered to do that. Gonna try convincing my parents but probably wont work, and i guess it works when youre older too like you said so i can just do it at a later point in time too
Yeah exactly man, if they don’t agree it’s better to not cause discourse, don’t argue over it , you can always do it when ur older at the end of the day
 
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