Proof that hollow cheeks aren't about being lean

[Deleted member 26675]

I literally googled "fat men" and scrolled through and found a few examples of morbidly obese dudes who still have hollow cheeks:

Despite being fat, their prominent cheekbones and strong forward growth still create that "hollow" line that runs up the face from the chin to the cheekbones. If these guys leaned out to 12% body fat the hollows would be much more pronounced and they would have insane facial structure.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but if you don't already have some amount of hollowing, you will probably never have hollow cheeks. Getting lean can obviously drastically improve one's facial appearance, but leanmaxxing specifically for hollow cheeks is cope.

 

[5.5psl]

Nigga that muh hollowness comes from fat accumulating at one place
Above 12% it's very hard for an average dude to look good
And yes hollow cheeks are all about being lean
Even if you have shit bones or boneless I bet you will have hollow cheeks when you reach a super low bf% like 6

 

[gribsufer1]

thata their duoble chin being stopped by cheekbone

 

[khvirgin]

BOTB NOW @Gargantuan @Alexanderr @enchanted_elixir

 

[Willmogulater]

I literally googled "fat men" and scrolled through and found a few examples of morbidly obese dudes who still have hollow cheeks:

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Despite being fat, their prominent cheekbones and strong forward growth still create that "hollow" line that runs up the face from the chin to the cheekbones. If these guys leaned out to 12% body fat the hollows would be much more pronounced and they would have insane facial structure.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but if you don't already have some amount of hollowing, you will probably never have hollow cheeks. Getting lean can obviously drastically improve one's facial appearance, but leanmaxxing specifically for hollow cheeks is cope.

Dummy

 

[Deleted member 26675]

Nigga that muh hollowness comes from fat accumulating at one place
Above 12% it's very hard for an average dude to look good
And yes hollow cheeks are all about being lean
Even if you have shit bones or boneless I bet you will have hollow cheeks when you reach a super low bf% like 6

So I agree with you that everyone will have home type of hollowing if they reach a low enough bf%. But most people don't have the bone structure to have the aesthetic type of hollow cheeks where it forms one continuous line. Plenty of guys in the gym have super lean faces and visible cheekbones but their maxillas are too flat so it doesn't look aesthetic and their faces just look sunken.

Look at this fat guy for example.

See how his cheeks bulge out more than the middle part of his face and create those dimples above his mouth? He will NEVER have true hollow cheeks no matter how lean he gets. The guys in the photos from my original post have the middle part of their faces clearly pushing out past the cheek parts, so even though they have fat in their cheeks, they still get that "hollow" look.

 

[Deleted member 16515]

smartest greycel:

 

[Deleted member 26675]

smartest greycel:

I don't even understand how people are in denial of this simple fact. All the time I walk around campus and see chubby/ fat guys with hollows and super lean guys in the gym with flat-looking sunken faces due to a recessed maxilla. Hollow cheeks = maxilla forward growth regardless of body fat %.

 

[Deleted member 16515]

I don't even understand how people are in denial of this simple fact. All the time I walk around campus and see chubby/ fat guys with hollows and super lean guys in the gym with flat-looking sunken faces due to a recessed maxilla. Hollow cheeks = maxilla forward growth regardless of body fat %.

a fat dude needs to lean down for his bone structure to be apparent and a halo.
obviously a boneless lean dude is not gonna have hollow cheeks lmao

 

[sub5outsider]

I don't even understand how people are in denial of this simple fact. All the time I walk around campus and see chubby/ fat guys with hollows and super lean guys in the gym with flat-looking sunken faces due to a recessed maxilla. Hollow cheeks = maxilla forward growth regardless of body fat %.

ive saw so many lean gymcels with fat recessed faces

 

[Deleted member 26675]

a fat dude needs to lean down for his bone structure to be apparent and a halo.
obviously a boneless lean dude is not gonna have hollow cheeks lmao

Yeah exactly. But even when the dude is fat you can tell whether he has the potential for aesthetic hollow cheeks. You and I are actually in agreement.

 

[Deleted member 21044]

None of them have hollow cheeks you graycel cockroach.

 

[Deleted member 26675]

None of them have hollow cheeks you graycel cockroach.

It is very obvious from the pictures that they all have forward grown maxillas and would have more pronounced hollows if they got lean. JFL if you can't understand this basic fact.

If you guys don't believe me go starve yourself and become anorexic, just don't come crying to me when you look like a famine victim and still don't have aesthetic hollow cheekbone lines.

 

[Deleted member 25713]

The fat just gives a hollow effect. There is hollowness in their fat not in their skin . I’ve seen fat fucks with genuine hollow cheeks because fat pads decrease in the cheeks in old age. This is just fat distribution and ok bones. It doesn’t look aesthetic though.

 

[Blackgymmax]

True hollow cheeks w zygos youll see even at a high bf.
The shit leanmaxxers post are just cheek sucking and mega light frauding that no one sees irl

 

[Deleted member 21044]

It is very obvious from the pictures that they all have forward grown maxillas and would have more pronounced hollows if they got lean. JFL if you can't understand this basic fact.

If you guys don't believe me go starve yourself and become anorexic, just don't come crying to me when you look like a famine victim and still don't have aesthetic hollow cheekbone lines.

Idk about their maxillas but i just's don't see any hollow cheeks...

 

[Deleted member 26675]

The fat just gives a hollow effect. There is hollowness in their fat not in their skin . I’ve seen fat fucks with genuine hollow cheeks because fat pads decrease in the cheeks in old age. This is just fat distribution and ok bones. It doesn’t look aesthetic though.

I never said it looks aesthetic. I'm just pointing out that even at high body fat levels you can tell whether someone has the potential for hollow cheeks. Notice how in those pictures the middle part of their face is raised above the outside cheek part. While in this picture for example, his cheeks are larger and more prominent than the middle part.

This is because the former men have better forward growth in their maxillas. All I was pointing out is that if you don't have those lines running up your face even while fat, you probably will never have hollow cheeks since those lines are what turn into hollows as your get leaner.

 

[Deleted member 25713]

True hollow cheeks w zygos youll see even at a high bf.
The shit leanmaxxers post are just cheek sucking and mega light frauding that no one sees irl

Depends on forward cheekbone projection tbh. If you have a deep canine fossa (anterior projecting cheekbones relative to maxilla) then you will never get the typical hollow cheeks effect and the hollowness you do get will be hidden at much higher body fats.

Looks more like this, obv lighting is at play though. If he was ~18% body fat he wouldn’t have that hollowness.

 

[Deleted member 25713]

I never said it looks aesthetic. I'm just pointing out that even at high body fat levels you can tell whether someone has the potential for hollow cheeks. Notice how in those pictures the middle part of their face is raised above the outside cheek part. While in this picture for example, his cheeks are larger and more prominent than the middle part. View attachment 2134969

This is because the former men have better forward growth in their maxillas. All I was pointing out is that if you don't have those lines running up your face even while fat, you probably will never have hollow cheeks since those lines are what turn into hollows as your get leaner.

Yes you can tell bone structure for the most part at high body fats. 15% body fat is a good standard for most imo for face and body balance. It’s easy as fuck to maintain too.

 

[Deleted member 26675]

Idk about their maxillas but i just's don't see any hollow cheeks...

See the line running from their chins up to their eyes? If they got lean that line would turn into hollows, like this:

See the line I marked in red? You can see that same line in the fat people I posted above. Even when fat you can see evidence of a forward grown vs fat maxilla.


Edit: I meant flat not fat

 

[Blackgymmax]

Depends on forward cheekbone projection tbh. If you have a deep canine fossa (anterior projecting cheekbones relative to maxilla) then you will never get the typical hollow cheeks effect and the hollowness you do get will be hidden at much higher body fats.

Looks more like this, obv lighting is at play though. If he was ~18% body fat he wouldn’t have that hollowness.

If you have strong forward zygos youll always see the highlight of your cheekbones is what im saying and youll have extremely visible zygo hollowing once lean whether its lateral or forwards.

 

[Deleted member 26675]

Depends on forward cheekbone projection tbh. If you have a deep canine fossa (anterior projecting cheekbones relative to maxilla) then you will never get the typical hollow cheeks effect and the hollowness you do get will be hidden at much higher body fats.

Looks more like this, obv lighting is at play though. If he was ~18% body fat he wouldn’t have that hollowness.

That's exactly my point. This guy has prominent cheekbones but a flat maxilla, so he'll never have that aesthetic line that runs up the entire face.

 

[Blackgymmax]

See the line running from their chins up to their eyes? If they got lean that line would turn into hollows, like this: View attachment 2134976
See the line I marked in red? You can see that same line in the fat people I posted above. Even when fat you can see evidence of a forward grown vs fat maxilla.

Depends on forward cheekbone projection tbh. If you have a deep canine fossa (anterior projecting cheekbones relative to maxilla) then you will never get the typical hollow cheeks effect and the hollowness you do get will be hidden at much higher body fats.

Looks more like this, obv lighting is at play though. If he was ~18% body fat he wouldn’t have that hollowness.

Like jons canine fossa is just super strong but he still has the lateral ogee curve

 

[Blackgymmax]

That's exactly my point. This guy has prominent cheekbones but a flat maxilla, so he'll never have that aesthetic line that runs up the entire face.

Its not a flat maxilla. The dude in your pfp has more canine fossa. Strong canine fossa and zygos gives that fucking unit of a maxilla look but without you get that frontal hollow cheek thing

 

[Deleted member 25713]

That's exactly my point. This guy has prominent cheekbones but a flat maxilla, so he'll never have that aesthetic line that runs up the entire face.

If your cheekbones are further forward than the maxilla then you will never have those lines, regardless of maxillary projection, but you will still have cheek hollowness. I think both types are quite aesthetic.

 

[Deleted member 21044]

See the line running from their chins up to their eyes? If they got lean that line would turn into hollows, like this: View attachment 2134976
See the line I marked in red? You can see that same line in the fat people I posted above. Even when fat you can see evidence of a forward grown vs fat maxilla.

I guess i'm retarded but i really don't understand. Hollow cheeks mean a concave stretch of skin in the cheek. I don't get your red line.

 

[Blackgymmax]

I guess i'm retarded but i really don't understand. Hollow cheeks mean a concave stretch of skin in the cheek. I don't get your red line.

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That hollow area is the canine fossa and you get @HairlessRat12345 cheekbones once that bones protrudes

 

[Deleted member 22623]

Hollow cheeks are a meme anyway if you don't have sufficient bigonial width... Without that you end up looking like an AIDS patient

 

[Deleted member 26675]

Its not a flat maxilla. The dude in your pfp has more canine fossa. Strong canine fossa and zygos gives that fucking unit of a maxilla look but without you get that frontal hollow cheek thing

Oh my bad. I'm still new to facial aesthetics and stuff and still learning the terminology. This stuff is really interesting to me though.

 

[Deleted member 26675]

If your cheekbones are further forward than the maxilla then you will never have those lines, regardless of maxillary projection, but you will still have cheek hollowness. I think both types are quite aesthetic.

Yeah I guess it's subjective. I like when the maxilla is ahead of the cheekbones personally but I guess there's no one right answer.

 

[Deleted member 25713]

Yeah I guess it's subjective. I like when the maxilla is ahead of the cheekbones personally but I guess there's no one right answer.

The cheekbones are never really behind the maxilla but more in line with it. There is no depression of the maxilla if the canine fossa is shallow. The ones in your pfp (shallow) are a lot more striking and noticeable, whereas people won’t directly notice the ones like in the guy I posted.

 

[Phillybeard1996]

The cheekbones are never really behind the maxilla but more in line with it. There is no depression of the maxilla if the canine fossa is shallow. The ones in your pfp (shallow) are a lot more striking and noticeable, whereas people won’t directly notice the ones like in the guy I posted.

Do most asians have hallow cheeks?
 

 

[Deleted member 25713]

Do most asians have hallow cheeks?

Asians usually have flat maxillas so in order to get hollow cheeks they would need a very deep canine fossa and/or very laterally projecting cheekbones.

They would also need the other factors (jaw width, chin width, fat distribution [they have thicker skin so less definition], leanness, narrow palate preferably etc.) so it would be no surprise to me if it’s rare for Asians to have hollow cheeks.

Obviously it’s possible but it’s rare as they’ll likely need a more caucasian pheno, along with all the other rare requirements.

 

[kalefartbomb]

I have hollow cheeks and it's obviously due to the combination of cheek and jaw growth + fat loss. If your cheeks and jaw are underdeveloped you won't have hollow cheeks. If you're fat you won't have hollow cheeks. It looks attractive because it signals good genetic and hormonal quality; bone development and low bodyfat.

 

[Deleted member 13710]

Just have fat rolls theory

Just have "hollow cheeks" between your fat rolls

Absolute shit thread

 

[Deleted member 26675]

Just have fat rolls theory

Just have "hollow cheeks" between your fat rolls

Absolute shit thread

You misunderstand what I'm saying. I never claimed that the fat dudes in the original post looked good by any means. I'm just pointing out that you can tell even at their level of body fat that they have the capacity to have aesthetic hollow cheeks if they get lean.

I feel like a lot of people are misunderstanding what I'm saying so maybe that's my fault for not explaining it clearly. My bad.

 

[volcelfatcel]

You can tell if you will have hollow cheeks by a prominent ogee curve from 3/4th even at higher body fats

Also age is such an underrated contributor to hollow cheeks, if you are a teen in this site getting the sharp modeling hollow cheeks is nearly impossible. Your face is too full of fat because of youth to achieve a sharp look, you need to wait until you’re 22-25

 

[Kama]

Fat distribution, especially when the fat guys are laughing in pics, does not tell you if they have bony prominences of zygote to create ogre curve. In general anyone can have ogee curve if they have average skull but they get lean enough. For someone to give up on leanmaxing cuz they don’t good fat distribution when they are fat is stupid. You won’t know what you got until you get below 15% bf.

 

[Deleted member 26633]

op discovers bones
more at 12

 

[ultra18]

Most people don't realize that hormones (testosterone) are extremely important for having hollow cheeks. Idk how it works probably through changing the fat distribution but yeah you can be 20% bf and still have hollow cheeks if your testosterone levels are high and of course you'll need to have atleast some bone mass

 

[Deleted member 21467]

fat illuminati

 

[fucknigga]

I don't even understand how people are in denial of this simple fact. All the time I walk around campus and see chubby/ fat guys with hollows and super lean guys in the gym with flat-looking sunken faces due to a recessed maxilla. Hollow cheeks = maxilla forward growth regardless of body fat %.

its not bout fatness its bout how u eat
and fat niggaz know how to chew and eat right