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A prettyboy will always receive much more IOIs than a hypermasc
Why? Simple, it’s the low-high trust face spectrum.

In studies it’s been shown women find positive facial expressions much more attractive and register them much faster than they would with others, and in that they find a sense of fondness and familiarity.
Unlike with a masculine low trust ogre they’d feel intimidated and uncomfortable.
That would reduce the perceived attraction.

While in the long run a masculine face is better in terms of a LTR and stability, that values to nearly nothing when the female registers you a threat and incompatible.

Looking at it from a physiological angle women show faster pupil dilation, higher early attractiveness ratings, and more approach behavior toward faces with positive physiognomy and higher “baby schema / neotenous” cues (larger eyes high trust eyes, smoother contours, higher brow, less heavy supra development)

A low trust masc face triggers a mild threat response even when the man is not behaving threateningly and might even be friendly, that causes a reduced “safe to approach” window.

Positive affect is contagious and lowers cortisol
women rate smiling / approachable faces higher on warmth and higher on short term attractiveness in zero acquaintance studies.

What does this mean? A prettyboy is going to receive much more perceived attraction off the get go.

The mechanism is straightforward. Positive valence + higher trust facial morphology is registered faster and produces an immediate “safe / familiar / fond” response. Heavy masculine low trust morphology produces a mild threat/intimidation response that suppresses spontaneous IOIs even when the man is objectively high SMV.

This is why the soft featured, slightly neotenous prettyboy consistently racks up more casual environment approaches, smiles, and IOIs than the pure hypermasc ogre of equal or higher objective attractiveness.
The latter may still win in high arousal or high status selection but he doesn’t in initial contact

So stop the high dimo cope and admit pretty boys mog.

Inb4 high dimo milf lovers cope
 
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A prettyboy will always receive much more IOIs than a hypermasc
Why? Simple, it’s the low-high trust face spectrum.

In studies it’s been shown women find positive facial expressions much more attractive and register them much faster than they would with others, and in that they find a sense of fondness and familiarity.
Unlike with a masculine low trust ogre they’d feel intimidated and uncomfortable.
That would reduce the perceived attraction.

While in the long run a masculine face is better in terms of a LTR and stability, that values to nearly nothing when the female registers you a threat and incompatible.

Looking at it from a physiological angle women show faster pupil dilation, higher early attractiveness ratings, and more approach behavior toward faces with positive physiognomy and higher “baby schema / neotenous” cues (larger eyes high trust eyes, smoother contours, higher brow, less heavy supra development)

A low trust masc face triggers a mild threat response even when the man is not behaving threateningly and might even be friendly, that causes a reduced “safe to approach” window.

Positive affect is contagious and lowers cortisol
women rate smiling / approachable faces higher on warmth and higher on short term attractiveness in zero acquaintance studies.

What does this mean? A prettyboy is going to receive much more perceived attraction off the get go.

The mechanism is straightforward. Positive valence + higher-trust facial morphology is registered faster and produces an immediate “safe / familiar / fond” response. Heavy masculine low-trust morphology produces a mild threat/intimidation response that suppresses spontaneous IOIs even when the man is objectively high SMV.

This is why the soft featured, slightly neotenous prettyboy consistently racks up more casual environment approaches, smiles, and IOIs than the pure hypermasc ogre of equal or higher objective attractiveness.
The latter may still win in high arousal or high status selection but he doesn’t in initial contact

So stop the high dimo cope and admit pretty boys mog.

Inb4 high dimo milf lovers cope
Lifefuel for pretty boys and cutecels such as myself
 
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This is what i've been saying (to myself)

understand the female mind first

tony robbins says to be good at something first you must
1 identify the pattern
2 use the pattern
3 create your own pattern

idk the relevance of that but it just felt right
 
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A prettyboy will always receive much more IOIs than a hypermasc
Why? Simple, it’s the low-high trust face spectrum.

In studies it’s been shown women find positive facial expressions much more attractive and register them much faster than they would with others, and in that they find a sense of fondness and familiarity.
Unlike with a masculine low trust ogre they’d feel intimidated and uncomfortable.
That would reduce the perceived attraction.

While in the long run a masculine face is better in terms of a LTR and stability, that values to nearly nothing when the female registers you a threat and incompatible.

Looking at it from a physiological angle women show faster pupil dilation, higher early attractiveness ratings, and more approach behavior toward faces with positive physiognomy and higher “baby schema / neotenous” cues (larger eyes high trust eyes, smoother contours, higher brow, less heavy supra development)

A low trust masc face triggers a mild threat response even when the man is not behaving threateningly and might even be friendly, that causes a reduced “safe to approach” window.

Positive affect is contagious and lowers cortisol
women rate smiling / approachable faces higher on warmth and higher on short term attractiveness in zero acquaintance studies.

What does this mean? A prettyboy is going to receive much more perceived attraction off the get go.

The mechanism is straightforward. Positive valence + higher-trust facial morphology is registered faster and produces an immediate “safe / familiar / fond” response. Heavy masculine low-trust morphology produces a mild threat/intimidation response that suppresses spontaneous IOIs even when the man is objectively high SMV.

This is why the soft featured, slightly neotenous prettyboy consistently racks up more casual environment approaches, smiles, and IOIs than the pure hypermasc ogre of equal or higher objective attractiveness.
The latter may still win in high arousal or high status selection but he doesn’t in initial contact

So stop the high dimo cope and admit pretty boys mog.

Inb4 high dimo milf lovers cope
Bump
 
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A prettyboy will always receive much more IOIs than a hypermasc
Why? Simple, it’s the low-high trust face spectrum.

In studies it’s been shown women find positive facial expressions much more attractive and register them much faster than they would with others, and in that they find a sense of fondness and familiarity.
Unlike with a masculine low trust ogre they’d feel intimidated and uncomfortable.
That would reduce the perceived attraction.

While in the long run a masculine face is better in terms of a LTR and stability, that values to nearly nothing when the female registers you a threat and incompatible.

Looking at it from a physiological angle women show faster pupil dilation, higher early attractiveness ratings, and more approach behavior toward faces with positive physiognomy and higher “baby schema / neotenous” cues (larger eyes high trust eyes, smoother contours, higher brow, less heavy supra development)

A low trust masc face triggers a mild threat response even when the man is not behaving threateningly and might even be friendly, that causes a reduced “safe to approach” window.

Positive affect is contagious and lowers cortisol
women rate smiling / approachable faces higher on warmth and higher on short term attractiveness in zero acquaintance studies.

What does this mean? A prettyboy is going to receive much more perceived attraction off the get go.

The mechanism is straightforward. Positive valence + higher-trust facial morphology is registered faster and produces an immediate “safe / familiar / fond” response. Heavy masculine low-trust morphology produces a mild threat/intimidation response that suppresses spontaneous IOIs even when the man is objectively high SMV.

This is why the soft featured, slightly neotenous prettyboy consistently racks up more casual environment approaches, smiles, and IOIs than the pure hypermasc ogre of equal or higher objective attractiveness.
The latter may still win in high arousal or high status selection but he doesn’t in initial contact

So stop the high dimo cope and admit pretty boys mog.

Inb4 high dimo milf lovers cope
It doesn’t matter, yoy people made it so damn complicated. Youre either attractive, normie or ugly
 
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It doesn’t matter, yoy people made it so damn complicated. Youre either attractive, normie or ugly
>I try to correct a misled ideology
>tard tells me I made it complicated
 
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this is already water pointless thread
 
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The fucj is a pretty boy even? Howre you defining that shit? Good collagen abd good hair? Like no shit thats gonna be more approachabke because theyre youthful, youthful people want fellow youthful people. Youthful features are not feminine
 
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The fucj is a pretty boy even? Howre you defining that shit? Good collagen abd good hair? Like no shit thats gonna be more approachabke because theyre youthful, youthful people want fellow youthful people. Youthful features are not feminine
High averageness

Less striking features
 
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The fucj is a pretty boy even? Howre you defining that shit? Good collagen abd good hair? Like no shit thats gonna be more approachabke because theyre youthful, youthful people want fellow youthful people. Youthful features are not feminine
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It’s a collective of traits, most notably rounder softer eyes, higher eyebrows with a raised inner, higher cheekbones that tend to be softer than angular, shallow nose sellion, lower fwhr, smaller / rounder chin, positive valence at rest, and overall softer contours.

It’s not really hard to spot you don’t need a chart to classify it
 
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what about this face buccalfatremoval is it ogremaxxed or prettyboy and how will it do with women

good thread btw, but I think a mix of dimo and pb features is ideal IE pic above, prettyboys kinda fag out tbh
 
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It’s a collective of traits, most notably rounder softer eyes, higher eyebrows with a raised inner, higher cheekbones that tend to be softer than angular, shallow nose sellion, lower fwhr, smaller / rounder chin, positive valence at rest, and overall softer contours.

It’s not really hard to spot you don’t need a chart to classify it
Thanks
 
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what about this face buccalfatremoval is it ogremaxxed or prettyboy and how will it do with women
Robust prettyboy, which is the best physio
good thread btw, but I think a mix of dimo and pb features is ideal IE pic above, prettyboys kinda fag out tbh
Indeed, as I said robust prettyboy is the best for such reasons
It offers the initial fondness and perceived attractiveness while sustaining enough dimorphism to be stable for LTRs
 
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Ye its better to be a pretty boy than a hyper masc and thats all that matters for everyone in this forum, but.

..But you can not be a high chad and a pretty boy. Simailry you can not have max appeal as a pretty boy. Hyper masc isnt ideal regardless but for it to work it needs everything else. An ideal face has everything else.

If you mean completely hooded eyes. Imo they are just unideal in general. People only glaze them for strikingness but projected infras are actually far more striking without looking alien.
 
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@buccalfatremoval I apologize for misunderstanding what you meant because I misread your point mayne keep the good shit up. What should we learn from this though regarding lookmsaxxing and ascending
 
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Ye its better to be a pretty boy than a hyper masc and thats all that matters for everyone in this forum, but.

..But you can not be a high chad and a pretty boy. Simailry you can not have max appeal as a pretty boy. Hyper masc isnt ideal regardless but for it to work it needs everything else. An ideal face has everything else.

If you mean completely hooded eyes. Imo they are just unideal in general. People only glaze them for strikingness but projected infras are actually far more striking without looking alien.
you can still be prettyboy with 8 dimo ( vito basso btw)

and high chad people are usually maesthetic - rodrigo guirao, hexum, de la cruz guy they all dont look intimidating. they look like knights or smth like that.

only intimidating one is drago. and elias de school shooter.
A prettyboy will always receive much more IOIs than a hypermasc
Why? Simple, it’s the low-high trust face spectrum.

In studies it’s been shown women find positive facial expressions much more attractive and register them much faster than they would with others, and in that they find a sense of fondness and familiarity.
Unlike with a masculine low trust ogre they’d feel intimidated and uncomfortable.
That would reduce the perceived attraction.

While in the long run a masculine face is better in terms of a LTR and stability, that values to nearly nothing when the female registers you a threat and incompatible.

Looking at it from a physiological angle women show faster pupil dilation, higher early attractiveness ratings, and more approach behavior toward faces with positive physiognomy and higher “baby schema / neotenous” cues (larger eyes high trust eyes, smoother contours, higher brow, less heavy supra development)

A low trust masc face triggers a mild threat response even when the man is not behaving threateningly and might even be friendly, that causes a reduced “safe to approach” window.

Positive affect is contagious and lowers cortisol
women rate smiling / approachable faces higher on warmth and higher on short term attractiveness in zero acquaintance studies.

What does this mean? A prettyboy is going to receive much more perceived attraction off the get go.

The mechanism is straightforward. Positive valence + higher trust facial morphology is registered faster and produces an immediate “safe / familiar / fond” response. Heavy masculine low trust morphology produces a mild threat/intimidation response that suppresses spontaneous IOIs even when the man is objectively high SMV.

This is why the soft featured, slightly neotenous prettyboy consistently racks up more casual environment approaches, smiles, and IOIs than the pure hypermasc ogre of equal or higher objective attractiveness.
The latter may still win in high arousal or high status selection but he doesn’t in initial contact

So stop the high dimo cope and admit pretty boys mog.

Inb4 high dimo milf lovers cope
RPB is law.
 
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@buccalfatremoval I apologize for misunderstanding what you meant because I misread your point mayne keep the good shit up.
It’s okay, thank you.
What should we learn from this though regarding lookmsaxxing and ascending
Well there’s not much to do honestly, if you can manipulate micro facial expressions to imitate a more trustworthy physiognomy then that’s your only choice.
Keeping youth indicators at peak form should be a stable as well
 
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you can still be prettyboy with 8 dimo ( vito basso btw)

and high chad people are usually maesthetic - rodrigo guirao, hexum, de la cruz guy they all dont look intimidating. they look like knights or smth like that.

only intimidating one is drago. and elias de school shooter.

RPB is law.
I’d argue they’re still intimidating but they’ve reached a certain level of attractiveness where their low trust face or masculinity is simply more of a halo giving them more perceived attractiveness, hence your knight call.
They’re so dominant and serious looking it’s protective and psychologically signals as so.
While if you compare to average looking guys, one pretty boy one masculine, the PB will have much higher IOIs and attractiveness.
While the masculine one would suffer more in the dating market.
 
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Thoughts on this bhaijaans
 
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bump

also to spice it up

i also like @Bipolar2Cel idea too

pretty boy with good physique

high trust face + fuck factor
 
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good thread man bump
 
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you can still be prettyboy with 8 dimo ( vito basso btw)

and high chad people are usually maesthetic - rodrigo guirao, hexum, de la cruz guy they all dont look intimidating. they look like knights or smth like that.

only intimidating one is drago. and elias de school shooter.

RPB is law.
8 dimo is too high for vito basso in some photos he looks like a women lmao.

My point is there is a limit to how good you can look as a pretty boy.

The ideal male face will trend masculine and also have striking features but how hard is it to have all of these genetic outliers synchronise and harmonise perfectly aswell and not become an ogre.. Practically impossible. The most harminous face is delon and he is still full of flaws.. harminous development is law. But to introduce the ideal features and ratios along with that. Is just.. well. Likley never existed.

Drago for example you listed him as high chad. But his real life appeal in terms of real desire. Rather than alien rarity logical appeal. Is not close to high chad. I doubt even chad and thats generous.

Thats my exact point though. The more of these ideal features your face has its like a massive filter its harder and harder to remain optimal harmony.. thats why if ur not a 1 in a quadrillion genetic morph. It is ideal to have some 'flaws' and trend more feminine.

Also of those people you mentioned none of them have the hunter eyes i was talking about.
 
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A prettyboy will always receive much more IOIs than a hypermasc
Why? Simple, it’s the low-high trust face spectrum.

In studies it’s been shown women find positive facial expressions much more attractive and register them much faster than they would with others, and in that they find a sense of fondness and familiarity.
Unlike with a masculine low trust ogre they’d feel intimidated and uncomfortable.
That would reduce the perceived attraction.

While in the long run a masculine face is better in terms of a LTR and stability, that values to nearly nothing when the female registers you a threat and incompatible.

Looking at it from a physiological angle women show faster pupil dilation, higher early attractiveness ratings, and more approach behavior toward faces with positive physiognomy and higher “baby schema / neotenous” cues (larger eyes high trust eyes, smoother contours, higher brow, less heavy supra development)

A low trust masc face triggers a mild threat response even when the man is not behaving threateningly and might even be friendly, that causes a reduced “safe to approach” window.

Positive affect is contagious and lowers cortisol
women rate smiling / approachable faces higher on warmth and higher on short term attractiveness in zero acquaintance studies.

What does this mean? A prettyboy is going to receive much more perceived attraction off the get go.

The mechanism is straightforward. Positive valence + higher trust facial morphology is registered faster and produces an immediate “safe / familiar / fond” response. Heavy masculine low trust morphology produces a mild threat/intimidation response that suppresses spontaneous IOIs even when the man is objectively high SMV.

This is why the soft featured, slightly neotenous prettyboy consistently racks up more casual environment approaches, smiles, and IOIs than the pure hypermasc ogre of equal or higher objective attractiveness.
The latter may still win in high arousal or high status selection but he doesn’t in initial contact

So stop the high dimo cope and admit pretty boys mog.

Inb4 high dimo milf lovers cope
Very good thread and well explained
 
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8 dimo is too high for vito basso in some photos he looks like a women lmao.

My point is there is a limit to how good you can look as a pretty boy.

The ideal male face will trend masculine and also have striking features but how hard is it to have all of these genetic outliers synchronise and harmonise perfectly aswell and not become an ogre.. Practically impossible. The most harminous face is delon and he is still full of flaws.. harminous development is law. But to introduce the ideal features and ratios along with that. Is just.. well. Likley never existed.

Drago for example you listed him as high chad. But his real life appeal in terms of real desire. Rather than alien rarity logical appeal. Is not close to high chad. I doubt even chad and thats generous.

Thats my exact point though. The more of these ideal features your face has its like a massive filter its harder and harder to remain optimal harmony.. thats why if ur not a 1 in a quadrillion genetic morph. It is ideal to have some 'flaws' and trend more feminine.

Also of those people you mentioned none of them have the hunter eyes i was talking about.
TLDR rpb is law
 
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whats the point in talking about hypermasc when thats 0.1% of the population and cutecels are like 50% of the population

good dimo is law but obv most girls would choose paul walker over drago
 
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whats the point in talking about hypermasc when thats 0.1% of the population and cutecels are like 50% of the population

good dimo is law but obv most girls would choose paul walker over drago
if u just mean high dimo and not hypermasc then ig prettyboys win most of the time but it all depends on what type of women you want to attract. their age where u live etc
 
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Good explanation. I agree with this.
 
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@buccalfatremoval I apologize for misunderstanding what you meant because I misread your point mayne keep the good shit up. What should we learn from this though regarding lookmsaxxing and ascending
hop on estrogen
 
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@Bipolar2Cel @NW3Slayer @81xa
Thoughts on this bhaijaans
Yes this is true. I know from firsthand experience having a face too masculine for your age bracket is a failo unless it's a niche preference.

This is why the soft featured, slightly neotenous prettyboy consistently racks up more casual environment approaches, smiles, and IOIs than the pure hypermasc ogre of equal or higher objective attractiveness.
Unless the ogre has an extremely high PSL the face they look so threatening that it puts women off unless they're in a highly sexual mood in which case it can be good for short term sometimes
 
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@Bipolar2Cel @NW3Slayer @81xa
Thoughts on this bhaijaans
Yes this is true. I know from firsthand experience having a face too masculine for your age bracket is a failo unless it's a niche preference.

This is why the soft featured, slightly neotenous prettyboy consistently racks up more casual environment approaches, smiles, and IOIs than the pure hypermasc ogre of equal or higher objective attractiveness.
Unless the ogre has an extremely high PSL the face they look so threatening that it puts women off unless they're in a highly sexual mood in which case it can be good for short term sometimes
 
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A prettyboy will always receive much more IOIs than a hypermasc
Why? Simple, it’s the low-high trust face spectrum.

In studies it’s been shown women find positive facial expressions much more attractive and register them much faster than they would with others, and in that they find a sense of fondness and familiarity.
Unlike with a masculine low trust ogre they’d feel intimidated and uncomfortable.
That would reduce the perceived attraction.

While in the long run a masculine face is better in terms of a LTR and stability, that values to nearly nothing when the female registers you a threat and incompatible.

Looking at it from a physiological angle women show faster pupil dilation, higher early attractiveness ratings, and more approach behavior toward faces with positive physiognomy and higher “baby schema / neotenous” cues (larger eyes high trust eyes, smoother contours, higher brow, less heavy supra development)

A low trust masc face triggers a mild threat response even when the man is not behaving threateningly and might even be friendly, that causes a reduced “safe to approach” window.

Positive affect is contagious and lowers cortisol
women rate smiling / approachable faces higher on warmth and higher on short term attractiveness in zero acquaintance studies.

What does this mean? A prettyboy is going to receive much more perceived attraction off the get go.

The mechanism is straightforward. Positive valence + higher trust facial morphology is registered faster and produces an immediate “safe / familiar / fond” response. Heavy masculine low trust morphology produces a mild threat/intimidation response that suppresses spontaneous IOIs even when the man is objectively high SMV.

This is why the soft featured, slightly neotenous prettyboy consistently racks up more casual environment approaches, smiles, and IOIs than the pure hypermasc ogre of equal or higher objective attractiveness.
The latter may still win in high arousal or high status selection but he doesn’t in initial contact

So stop the high dimo cope and admit pretty boys mog.

Inb4 high dimo milf lovers cope

Anyone that has a good understanding of aesthetics already knows this.
 
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if u just mean high dimo and not hypermasc then ig prettyboys win most of the time but it all depends on what type of women you want to attract. their age where u live etc
I just mean the entire high dimo bracket, hypermasculine felt the most fitting term for the entire umbrella
 
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I just mean the entire high dimo bracket, hypermasculine felt the most fitting term for the entire umbrella
depends on how high dimo you are but typically robust prettyboy is ideal
 
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A prettyboy will always receive much more IOIs than a hypermasc
Why? Simple, it’s the low-high trust face spectrum.

In studies it’s been shown women find positive facial expressions much more attractive and register them much faster than they would with others, and in that they find a sense of fondness and familiarity.
Unlike with a masculine low trust ogre they’d feel intimidated and uncomfortable.
That would reduce the perceived attraction.

While in the long run a masculine face is better in terms of a LTR and stability, that values to nearly nothing when the female registers you a threat and incompatible.

Looking at it from a physiological angle women show faster pupil dilation, higher early attractiveness ratings, and more approach behavior toward faces with positive physiognomy and higher “baby schema / neotenous” cues (larger eyes high trust eyes, smoother contours, higher brow, less heavy supra development)

A low trust masc face triggers a mild threat response even when the man is not behaving threateningly and might even be friendly, that causes a reduced “safe to approach” window.

Positive affect is contagious and lowers cortisol
women rate smiling / approachable faces higher on warmth and higher on short term attractiveness in zero acquaintance studies.

What does this mean? A prettyboy is going to receive much more perceived attraction off the get go.

The mechanism is straightforward. Positive valence + higher trust facial morphology is registered faster and produces an immediate “safe / familiar / fond” response. Heavy masculine low trust morphology produces a mild threat/intimidation response that suppresses spontaneous IOIs even when the man is objectively high SMV.

This is why the soft featured, slightly neotenous prettyboy consistently racks up more casual environment approaches, smiles, and IOIs than the pure hypermasc ogre of equal or higher objective attractiveness.
The latter may still win in high arousal or high status selection but he doesn’t in initial contact

So stop the high dimo cope and admit pretty boys mog.

Inb4 high dimo milf lovers cope
Dnr i will just rep cuz ur my cutie oni chan 🥺 :BlushHug:
 
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giga hopefuel for my 5.5 dimo 6.25 misc ahh:forcedsmile:
 
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what about this face buccalfatremoval is it ogremaxxed or prettyboy and how will it do with women

good thread btw, but I think a mix of dimo and pb features is ideal IE pic above, prettyboys kinda fag out tbh
@Bipolar2Cel @NW3Slayer @81xa
Thoughts on this bhaijaans
bump

also to spice it up

i also like @Bipolar2Cel idea too

pretty boy with good physique

high trust face + fuck factor
Hahaha yep.. robust prettyboy with a good physique is kind of unbeatable. Chad is still about as good but I think if you want maximum widespread appeal and being able to appeal to ALL sort of types maximally statistically then robust prettyboy is it, that's been my experience IRL too really, haven't found a type of woman I couldn't attract. It just works. Robust prettyboy is basically inbetween prettyboy and Chad so it just works on everything and combines the best traits of both.
 
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whats the point in talking about hypermasc when thats 0.1% of the population and cutecels are like 50% of the population

good dimo is law but obv most girls would choose paul walker over drago
Uhh paul walker is not even cutecel, he looks manly actually! Far from cutecel.
depends on how high dimo you are but typically robust prettyboy is ideal
I mean most hollywood icons/most popular idols/actors are like...

robust prettyboy or maesthetic...

delon, brad pitt, the supernaturals guy, the superman smallville guy.. pattinson and else...

with a stretch henry cavill.. but he is bit higher dimo ig.

Which is fun most of this actors are 5'11-6'1 for some reason. And they all have "regular" guy archetype.

Like the probably actual ideal for wide IRL appeal is around 7 dimo, and dimo is mostly about having T shape in your browridge/supra area.
 
It’s okay, thank you.

Well there’s not much to do honestly, if you can manipulate micro facial expressions to imitate a more trustworthy physiognomy then that’s your only choice.
Keeping youth indicators at peak form should be a stable as well

Youre welcome. Maybe is also about what not to do during hardmaxxing? For example changing your chin shape by having an implant on the sides like timothy haireth. To give a more dominant look.
 

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