PSL going mainstream is very bad for society ngl

[AlexAP]

I'm not saying it's because it creates more competition (lol no, it doesn't), I mean because PSL is mostly autism that has nothing to do with reality. Some PSL advice is good (hairpill, supplements, even some surgeries) but the sociology behind it (the blackpill) is utterly ridiculous and surely leads to feelings of victimhood and anger among those who believe it.

When I heard Clavicular saying the word infraorbital on Michael Knowles' podcast, I knew autism has won in America. The future will be full of insecure cucks who become obsessed with mogging while not even achieving leanness (without Ozempic).

 

[joseph]

I'm not saying it's because it creates more competition (lol no, it doesn't), I mean because PSL is mostly autism that has nothing to do with reality. Some PSL advice is good (hairpill, supplements, even some surgeries) but the sociology behind it (the blackpill) is utterly ridiculous and surely leads to feelings of victimhood and anger among those who believe it.

When I heard Clavicular saying the word infraorbital on Michael Knowles' podcast, I knew autism has won in America. The future will be full of insecure cucks who become obsessed with mogging while not even achieving leanness (without Ozempic).

What makes you say competition won’t increase as a result though?

Not arguing, just curious to hear your reasoning and thoughts

 

[BeardedUnicorn]

I'm not saying it's because it creates more competition (lol no, it doesn't), I mean because PSL is mostly autism that has nothing to do with reality. Some PSL advice is good (hairpill, supplements, even some surgeries) but the sociology behind it (the blackpill) is utterly ridiculous and surely leads to feelings of victimhood and anger among those who believe it.

When I heard Clavicular saying the word infraorbital on Michael Knowles' podcast, I knew autism has won in America. The future will be full of insecure cucks who become obsessed with mogging while not even achieving leanness (without Ozempic).

Anyone who thinks that normies are actually going to follow through with any of this is insane. At most they will gymmax and get PSL haircuts. Shows how detached most people in these spaces are. its the same with geomaxxing communities I am in, people really think well adjusted normies are going to solo travel to their shit hole location so they can "ascend". Another one is the Penis enhancing community too, the main admin Hink literally paid normies to follow through with a PE plan for results and most didn't even stick with it for a month. And most of this stuff is cope anyway, being exposed to PSL as a teenager instead of trying to social max and its pretty much over for you

 

[BeardedUnicorn]

What makes you say competition won’t increase as a result though?

Not arguing, just curious to hear your reasoning and thoughts

Most people who are in these spaces have to rely on mogging in order to get any semblance of attraction. Normies just exist and they slay through social circles

 

[joseph]

Most people who are in these spaces have to rely on mogging in order to get any semblance of attraction. Normies just exist and they slay through social circles

Even zoomer normies? Despite way more social media usage?

 

[billybobjr2004]

Anyone who thinks that normies are actually going to follow through with any of this is insane. At most they will gymmax and get PSL haircuts. Shows how detached most people in these spaces are. its the same with geomaxxing communities I am in, people really think well adjusted normies are going to solo travel to their shit hole location so they can "ascend". Another one is the Penis enhancing community too, the main admin Hink literally paid normies to follow through with a PE plan for results and most didn't even stick with it for a month. And most of this stuff is cope anyway, being exposed to PSL as a teenager instead of trying to social max and its pretty much over for you

yea tbh i only found looksmaxxing thru my friends trolling on tiktok when it was blowing up, made me realize how out of touch ppl here are actually

 

[greedpsl]

I'm not saying it's because it creates more competition (lol no, it doesn't), I mean because PSL is mostly autism that has nothing to do with reality. Some PSL advice is good (hairpill, supplements, even some surgeries) but the sociology behind it (the blackpill) is utterly ridiculous and surely leads to feelings of victimhood and anger among those who believe it.

When I heard Clavicular saying the word infraorbital on Michael Knowles' podcast, I knew autism has won in America. The future will be full of insecure cucks who become obsessed with mogging while not even achieving leanness (without Ozempic).

bump

 

[ssxjdgh]

Anyone who thinks that normies are actually going to follow through with any of this is insane. At most they will gymmax and get PSL haircuts. Shows how detached most people in these spaces are. its the same with geomaxxing communities I am in, people really think well adjusted normies are going to solo travel to their shit hole location so they can "ascend". Another one is the Penis enhancing community too, the main admin Hink literally paid normies to follow through with a PE plan for results and most didn't even stick with it for a month. And most of this stuff is cope anyway, being exposed to PSL as a teenager instead of trying to social max and its pretty much over for you

Normies are doing skincaremaxxing and shit now. It's over just accept it

 

[BeardedUnicorn]

Normies are doing skincaremaxxing and shit now. It's over just accept it

Fuck off tiktok zoomer, skin care routines have been popular even during the Good looking loser and pua days. Everyone and their mother knows lean is law and most american zoomers are still overweight or borderline obese

 

[Luquier]

It’s another TikTok trend tbh nothingburger

 

[Eltrē]

Anyone who thinks that normies are actually going to follow through with any of this is insane. At most they will gymmax and get PSL haircuts. Shows how detached most people in these spaces are. its the same with geomaxxing communities I am in, people really think well adjusted normies are going to solo travel to their shit hole location so they can "ascend". Another one is the Penis enhancing community too, the main admin Hink literally paid normies to follow through with a PE plan for results and most didn't even stick with it for a month. And most of this stuff is cope anyway, being exposed to PSL as a teenager instead of trying to social max and its pretty much over for you

This has always been the case for the majority of forum users too though.

People in general are lazy, nothing will change that.

 

[Luquier]

This has always been the case for the majority of forum users too though.

People in general are lazy, nothing will change that.

Food just tastes too good it’s not worth it

 

[CHRIST_764]

I knew autism has won in America.

 

[1exposed]

I'm not saying it's because it creates more competition (lol no, it doesn't), I mean because PSL is mostly autism that has nothing to do with reality. Some PSL advice is good (hairpill, supplements, even some surgeries) but the sociology behind it (the blackpill) is utterly ridiculous and surely leads to feelings of victimhood and anger among those who believe it.

When I heard Clavicular saying the word infraorbital on Michael Knowles' podcast, I knew autism has won in America. The future will be full of insecure cucks who become obsessed with mogging while not even achieving leanness (without Ozempic).

bp/psl is just seen as a trend to normies at the moment

give it 6 months and people will be saying shit like "remember when WE used to looksmax" and make fun of it

+ they're too lazy to even do any serious looksmaxxing

 

[BeardedUnicorn]

This has always been the case for the majority of forum users too though.

People in general are lazy, nothing will change that.

I will concede that at my gym I see alot of zoomers that are clearly plugged into PSL stuff. Even then I am genuinely convinced most foids aren't into guys that try hard. I see the guys these zoomers foids are with and its either an oldfag or some oofy doofy looking guy. The biggest slayer I know is 6'2 and looks natural if that makes sense, like he still has to rizz up foids and run game and all of that. Alot of guys here have the autistic mindset that once they ascend they will just have foids cold approach them on the street and that if any effort is exerted its over.

 

[isis_Bleach]

its 100% true. thats the way all women see it.

 

[Eltrē]

I will concede that at my gym I see alot of zoomers that are clearly plugged into PSL stuff. Even then I am genuinely convinced most foids aren't into guys that try hard. I see the guys these zoomers foids are with and its either an oldfag or some oofy doofy looking guy. The biggest slayer I know is 6'2 and looks natural if that makes sense, like he still has to rizz up foids and run game and all of that. Alot of guys here have the autistic mindset that once they ascend they will just have foids cold approach them on the street and that if any effort is exerted its over.

Yeah that's honestly one of the biggest issues of the advice given on here, most of it will make you look very try-hard.

I've seen a huge uptick of zoomers like that too and it's rather obvious to recognize them.
Same vibe as overly groomed gay dudes.

Effortless looks are king.

 

[BeardedUnicorn]

bp/psl is just seen as a trend to normies at the moment

give it 6 months and people will be saying shit like "remember when WE used to looksmax" and make fun of it

+ they're too lazy to even do any serious looksmaxxing

It comes and goes in popularity, it was dying until Clav got some heat as a lolcow. Even then it was moreso about Clav then looksmaxxing itself this time around. He was popular for 2 weeks at most. Most normies think its just incel stuff, if anything I see 95% are more into the gymcel stuff. I notice that guys that are older benefit more from looksmaxxing stuff rather than the younger guys that are still in hs/uni

 

[1exposed]

I will concede that at my gym I see alot of zoomers that are clearly plugged into PSL stuff. Even then I am genuinely convinced most foids aren't into guys that try hard. I see the guys these zoomers foids are with and its either an oldfag or some oofy doofy looking guy. The biggest slayer I know is 6'2 and looks natural if that makes sense, like he still has to rizz up foids and run game and all of that. Alot of guys here have the autistic mindset that once they ascend they will just have foids cold approach them on the street and that if any effort is exerted its over.

good point


i blame the unrealistic morphs being done on tiktok showing some random guy going from ltn -> chadlite with a couple surgeries when its way more complicated than that

1. do you have the mental fortitude to endure the pain AND the fact that the result might not be as life-changing as you initially thought?
2. do you have the money ? (water take)
3. do you have the luxury to hide in your home recovering from said surgery, taking time off of work AND withdrawing yourself from social interaction until you are fully healed ?

99% of normies will never have all 3 at once

 

[BeardedUnicorn]

Yeah that's honestly one of the biggest issues of the advice given on here, most of it will make you look very try-hard.

I've seen a huge uptick of zoomers like that too and it's rather obvious to recognize them.
Same vibe as overly groomed gay dudes.

Effortless looks are king.

Even the slayer I described is still socially adept and has a social circle and all of that, he goes out every weekend with the lads and puts in the effort. The looks and height obviously halo him but I know worse looking and shorter guys whose results aren't like drastically different. Meanwhile I see obviously tryhard guys (not sure if they are PSL autists) who do substantially worse or dumpster dive because they haven't fine tuned their NT and whatnot. Online dating is dead, its either running money game online or having a social circle or being in a large social setting like a program or uni.

 

[1exposed]

It comes and goes in popularity, it was dying until Clav got some heat as a lolcow. Even then it was moreso about Clav then looksmaxxing itself this time around. He was popular for 2 weeks at most. Most normies think its just incel stuff, if anything I see 95% are more into the gymcel stuff. I notice that guys that are older benefit more from looksmaxxing stuff rather than the younger guys that are still in hs/uni

i'm seeing more of an uptick in people being interested in nootropics/peptides at the moment tbh

people just look at "ascending" as some sort of challenge/trend that tiktok has going on at the moment , forgetting that your looks level influences your life

 

[Eltrē]

Even the slayer I described is still socially adept and has a social circle and all of that, he goes out every weekend with the lads and puts in the effort. The looks and height obviously halo him but I know worse looking and shorter guys whose results aren't like drastically different. Meanwhile I see obviously tryhard guys (not sure if they are PSL autists) who do substantially worse or dumpster dive because they haven't fine tuned their NT and whatnot. Online dating is dead, its either running money game online or having a social circle or being in a large social setting like a program or uni.

Is he like an actual sperg or something?

If you're talking about purely slaying then NT really shouldn't matter that much, just don't be a total freak and your looks will do the rest.

 

[yetlet808]

Bro talm about sum ozempic with 14k posts Im crine

 

[1exposed]

Even the slayer I described is still socially adept and has a social circle and all of that, he goes out every weekend with the lads and puts in the effort. The looks and height obviously halo him but I know worse looking and shorter guys whose results aren't like drastically different. Meanwhile I see obviously tryhard guys (not sure if they are PSL autists) who do substantially worse or dumpster dive because they haven't fine tuned their NT and whatnot. Online dating is dead, its either running money game online or having a social circle or being in a large social setting like a program or uni.

NT + low inhib is law

 

[BeardedUnicorn]

good point


i blame the unrealistic morphs being done on tiktok showing some random guy going from ltn -> chadlite with a couple surgeries when its way more complicated than that

1. do you have the mental fortitude to endure the pain AND the fact that the result might not be as life-changing as you initially thought?
2. do you have the money ? (water take)
3. do you have the luxury to hide in your home recovering from said surgery taking time off of work AND withdrawing yourself from social interaction until you are fully healed (?

99% of normies will never have all 3 at once

That's why I think its better to just do this stuff once you are an adult to just maintain appearance. If you are young then the only ascensions you should work on are through NT and staying in shape and doing as much extracurricular stuff as possible. Unless you have a major deformity then surgery should be an option

 

[1exposed]

That's why I think its better to just do this stuff once you are an adult to just maintain appearance. If you are young then the only ascensions you should work on are through NT and staying in shape and doing as much extracurricular stuff as possible. Unless you have a major deformity then surgery should be an option

same goes for the bp discovering it when you're young can either make you or break you

 

[BeardedUnicorn]

i'm seeing more of an uptick in people being interested nootropics/peptides at the moment tbh

people just look at "ascending" as some sort of challenge/trend that tiktok has going on at the moment , forgetting that your looks level influences your life

Peptide shit will definitely die down soon enough, its only being pushed because of sponsers. Roiding has been popular forever though this is nowhere near a new thing. Maybe the amount of guys has increased because they got exposed to it on short form media and do it out of desperation

 

[BeardedUnicorn]

Is he like an actual sperg or something?

If you're talking about purely slaying then NT really shouldn't matter that much, just don't be a total freak and your looks will do the rest.

For slaying yeah I agree but long term results guys who are always NT always win out in my experience as a late 20s guy. I know 2 guys who didn't slay at all in hs or uni but became more attractive because of grooming or puberty and they do slay but its out of validation and desperation, I haven't seen women stick around them at all for more than 2 fucks. They all eventually burn out. Also the quality too (not just looks but personality) of foids that get pumped and dumped like that is always not the best quality. But yeah I do know conventional good looking guys who do obviously just slay because of their looks of course thats not the point I am trying to make.

 

[Minoxidilf]

Anyone who thinks that normies are actually going to follow through with any of this is insane. At most they will gymmax and get PSL haircuts. Shows how detached most people in these spaces are. its the same with geomaxxing communities I am in, people really think well adjusted normies are going to solo travel to their shit hole location so they can "ascend". Another one is the Penis enhancing community too, the main admin Hink literally paid normies to follow through with a PE plan for results and most didn't even stick with it for a month. And most of this stuff is cope anyway, being exposed to PSL as a teenager instead of trying to social max and its pretty much over for you

So true. Too much negativity about competition rapidly rising from niggas that aren’t even playing the game in the first place. It’s all just speculation.

RP cope ab “Competition is non existent brah most dudes are fat and live w their mom” is one side of the extreme but on the other side BPers complaining ab gymcelling and geomaxxing becoming useless is also extreme af and incorrect

 

[Eltrē]

For slaying yeah I agree but long term results guys who are always NT always win out in my experience as a late 20s guy. I know 2 guys who didn't slay at all in hs or uni but became more attractive because of grooming or puberty and they do slay but its out of validation and desperation, I haven't seen women stick around them at all for more than 2 fucks. They all eventually burn out. Also the quality too (not just looks but personality) of foids that get pumped and dumped like that is always not the best quality. But yeah I do know conventional good looking guys who do obviously just slay because of their looks of course thats not the point I am trying to make.

What was your point then?

From what I read you were talking about slaying.
Maybe I misunderstood something?

 

[BeardedUnicorn]

So true. Too much negativity about competition rapidly rising from niggas that aren’t even playing the game in the first place. It’s all just speculation.

RP cope ab “Competition is non existent brah most dudes are fat and live w their mom” is one side of the extreme but on the other side BPers complaining ab gymcelling and geomaxxing becoming useless is also extreme af and incorrect

The competition exists because alot of guys do have to rely on mogging in order to get foids because they are victims of circumstance. Alot of normies are insulated from this stuff because they are happy go lucky

 

[ssxjdgh]

Fuck off tiktok zoomer, skin care routines have been popular even during the Good looking loser and pua days. Everyone and their mother knows lean is law and most american zoomers are still overweight or borderline obese

Doesn't change that it's bigger and it's over bhai

 

[1exposed]

So true. Too much negativity about competition rapidly rising from niggas that aren’t even playing the game in the first place. It’s all just speculation.

RP cope ab “Competition is non existent brah most dudes are fat and live w their mom” is one side of the extreme but on the other side BPers complaining ab gymcelling and geomaxxing becoming useless is also extreme af and incorrect

Exactly lmfao

niggas are forgetting what the word "normie" even means it means your AVERAGE person

do bpers actually think the avg person with 40hr screentime on tiktok , a normal social circle is on org for hours researching how to geomax, or how to do diy chin filler?


jfl at low iq org users

 

[BeardedUnicorn]

What was your point then?

From what I read you were talking about slaying.
Maybe I misunderstood something?

Yeah I realize it was confusing. Its moreso guys that are like naturally charasmatic/good looking usually do the best basically. Guys that constantly have a chip on their shoulder and are clearly looksmaxxed in my experience usually have worse esp in the semi long term department and are usually never happy, maybe due to past circumstances. ltn who is NT > ascended PSL autist

 

[BeardedUnicorn]

Exactly lmfao

niggas are forgetting what the word "normie" even means it means your AVERAGE person

do bpers actually think the avg person with 40hr screentime on tiktok , a normal social circle is on org for hours researching how to geomax, or how to do diy chin filler?


jfl at low iq org users

This stuff is reaching algos more and more. But its like the passport bro content. Most normies see it and maybe have some curiousity but its not something they are actively devoting everything to. just fads and trends

 

[BeardedUnicorn]

Yeah I realize it was confusing. Its moreso guys that are like naturally charasmatic/good looking usually do the best basically. Guys that constantly have a chip on their shoulder and are clearly looksmaxxed in my experience usually have worse esp in the semi long term department and are usually never happy, maybe due to past circumstances. ltn who is NT > ascended PSL autist

And by NT I also mean good upbringing and family friend circumstances, not just having no mental defects and whatnot.

 

[Luquier]

I will concede that at my gym I see alot of zoomers that are clearly plugged into PSL stuff. Even then I am genuinely convinced most foids aren't into guys that try hard. I see the guys these zoomers foids are with and its either an oldfag or some oofy doofy looking guy. The biggest slayer I know is 6'2 and looks natural if that makes sense, like he still has to rizz up foids and run game and all of that. Alot of guys here have the autistic mindset that once they ascend they will just have foids cold approach them on the street and that if any effort is exerted its over.

And by NT I also mean good upbringing and family friend circumstances, not just having no mental defects and whatnot.

Looksmaxxing is realistically easier than going from non-NT to NT tbh

 

[1exposed]

This stuff is reaching algos more and more. But its like the passport bro content. Most normies see it and maybe have some curiousity but its not something they are actively devoting everything to. just fads and trends

and sure some normies might internalize the bp/looksmaxxing but so what? they'll do the bare minimum, get scammed a couple times by shitty advice, and then eventually burn out and move on to the next trend

 

[BeardedUnicorn]

Looksmaxxing is realistically easier than going from non-NT to NT tbh

Agreed its why most here do it

 

[Ch1gga]

I'm not saying it's because it creates more competition (lol no, it doesn't), I mean because PSL is mostly autism that has nothing to do with reality. Some PSL advice is good (hairpill, supplements, even some surgeries) but the sociology behind it (the blackpill) is utterly ridiculous and surely leads to feelings of victimhood and anger among those who believe it.

When I heard Clavicular saying the word infraorbital on Michael Knowles' podcast, I knew autism has won in America. The future will be full of insecure cucks who become obsessed with mogging while not even achieving leanness (without Ozempic).

I didn't read.

 

[Whatever]

Societal changes have caused PSL to go mainstream, not the other way around. People are socially isolated and feel victimized and then get into black pill thinking. And as that isolation has become more and more common, so does the attitudes/beliefs that are adapted to it.

Because circumstances determine attitudes/beliefs, not the other way around. So the “good” or “bad” changes happen before people start reacting.

 

[Luquier]

Agreed its why most here do it

Tbh not really

Gymcelling is a normal thing to do, and most people here are just normies. Surgery addicts are a minority

 

[BeardedUnicorn]

Societal changes have caused PSL to go mainstream, not the other way around. People are socially isolated and feel victimized and then get into black pill thinking. And as that isolation has become more and more common, so does the attitudes/beliefs that are adapted to it.

Because circumstances determine attitudes/beliefs, not the other way around. So the “good” or “bad” changes happen before people start reacting.

People in these spaces over estimate how much the average normie is "struggling" though. Its like Travis Bickle mode where they see everything in a doomerism way. It doesn't explain why well adjusted white mtns with good family upbringings are on sites like these. I think there is something to be said how exposure to this sort of content can derail your self confidence and well being and do more harm than good. Although I will agree there is the "non NT" component, people have pointed out how the average user on inkwell adjacent forums are usually ASD/adhd and it shows with how black and white alot of people are, this could just be a product of low iq and age as well. People will lambast oofy doofy theory but will champion sub8 theory as if the latter is not more insane in concept.

Honestly even before the mullato gen alphoid and normie invasion of the internet post coof the debates and conversations in these spaces always were pretty vapid and low iq, I see more nuanced stances now compared to lurking pre mainstreamification. I think the answer is more simpler, the gatekeeping of the internet has become largely impossible and more and more people just stumble on these spaces rather than being victims of circumstance as a whole.

 

[Whatever]

People in these spaces over estimate how much the average normie is "struggling" though. Its like Travis Bickle mode where they see everything in a doomerism way. It doesn't explain why well adjusted white mtns with good family upbringings are on sites like these. I think there is something to be said how exposure to this sort of content can derail your self confidence and well being and do more harm than good. Although I will agree there is the "non NT" component, people have pointed out how the average user on inkwell adjacent forums are usually ASD/adhd and it shows with how black and white alot of people are, this could just be a product of low iq and age as well. People will lambast oofy doofy theory but will champion sub8 theory as if the latter is not more insane in concept.

Honestly even before the mullato gen alphoid and normie invasion of the internet post coof the debates and conversations in these spaces always were pretty vapid and low iq, I see more nuanced stances now compared to lurking pre mainstreamification. I think the answer is more simpler, the gatekeeping of the internet has become largely impossible and more and more people just stumble on these spaces rather than being victims of circumstance as a whole.

I’ve been both the oofy doofy (with my first girl kinda) and also the girl’s idea of 8+ on the apps. Both theories can be true in different contexts and at different phases in a foid’s life.

When I really put 2 and 2 together on how and when foids give out sexual opportunities, it made me realize how easily a normie can struggle. A good social circle should provide even an LTN or neurodivergent at least some opportunities. But take that away and he won’t get much unless he’s 7-8+ or lucks upon a foid who he’s really her type. Because foids don’t give random normies the chance.

There’s so many “well adjusted MTNs” on here now because social isolation, which is the real cause of inceldom, is going through the roof. Which correlates to polls and studies all saying much less sex is being had nowadays. It’s basic math that normies are struggling.

 

[BeardedUnicorn]

I’ve been both the oofy doofy (with my first girl kinda) and also the girl’s idea of 8+ on the apps. Both theories can be true in different contexts and at different phases in a foid’s life.

When I really put 2 and 2 together on how and when foids give out sexual opportunities, it made me realize how easily a normie can struggle. A good social circle should provide even an LTN or neurodivergent at least some opportunities. But take that away and he won’t get much unless he’s 7-8+ or lucks upon a foid who he’s really her type. Because foids don’t give random normies the chance.

There’s so many “well adjusted MTNs” on here now because social isolation, which is the real cause of inceldom, is going through the roof. Which correlates to polls and studies all saying much less sex is being had nowadays. It’s basic math that normies are struggling.

Right on the money. What do you think causes men to slip through the cracks and become isolated though?

 

[Whatever]

Right on the money. What do you think causes men to slip through the cracks and become isolated though?

There’s so much that can cause it. I was very isolated growing up and I blame this on moving around a lot, I kept switching schools and after grade school my parents never stayed situated and never mingled with the other parents so I was completely on my own as far as making friends. Which I couldn’t really do because I also had pretty severe health and speech problems. But some of it was fixed after high school and I went away to college when I was 20 and got very lucky, got involved with several friend groups and met my first girl and more that year, college is one of few chances in life to go from 0-60 like that.

Other things that can cause it growing up could be things like not playing sports or having the right hobbies as a kid, parents going overboard with religion or politics, or just not being involved enough with the other parents and the community. And this can cause the kids to have no one to hang out with, then delayed development, then an inferiority complex (“non NT” and “high inhib”) on top of it all, compounding in that order. So the first thing that should be looked at is what are the parents doing. Because parents have a responsibility to get their kids out there and making friends.

In the adult world it’s even easier to end up isolated. Making friends who can get you where the action is, real deal chances with adult HTB+, is even more difficult than hooking up with them off the apps. I have a socially isolating career and am kinda stuck in a state where I don’t know anyone, hardmaxxing to damn near 8+ and trying to put myself out there through my artwork are my only hopes.

 

[Luquier]

There’s so much that can cause it. I was very isolated growing up and I blame this on moving around a lot, I kept switching schools and after grade school my parents never stayed situated and never mingled with the other parents so I was completely on my own as far as making friends. Which I couldn’t really do because I also had pretty severe health and speech problems. But some of it was fixed after high school and I went away to college when I was 20 and got very lucky, got involved with several friend groups and met my first girl and more that year, college is one of few chances in life to go from 0-60 like that.

Other things that can cause it growing up could be things like not playing sports or having the right hobbies as a kid, parents going overboard with religion or politics, or just not being involved enough with the other parents and the community. And this can cause the kids to have no one to hang out with, then delayed development, then an inferiority complex (“non NT” and “high inhib”) on top of it all, compounding in that order. So the first thing that should be looked at is what are the parents doing. Because parents have a responsibility to get their kids out there and making friends.

In the adult world it’s even easier to end up isolated. Making friends who can get you where the action is, real deal chances with adult HTB+, is even more difficult than hooking up with them off the apps. I have a socially isolating career and am kinda stuck in a state where I don’t know anyone, hardmaxxing to damn near 8+ and trying to put myself out there through my artwork are my only hopes.

Inferiority complex is real alongside ‘getting used to’ a level of loneliness. You’ll miss out on easy social opportunities (nobody wants to be around me) w/o caring

 

[Raimaxxing]

This shit will genuinely die like a trend and it wouldn't be mainstream. Lookism.net was literally in the news back then

 

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The current trend of looksmaxxing on normie social media and influencer types like Clav are a fad, but society moving towards transhumanism is something that will not go away. On one hand it could lead to some attempting to become superhuman (which requires much more than just good looks), but on the other hand it will most likely be just another iteration of the so called last men, a breed content with endless hedonism (as is the mindset of 99% of the people here). The latter is depressing because there is no goal beyond itself, the goal is just having as much dopamine and validation as possible. It's like those male rats in that overpopulation experiment, just endlessly grooming themselves while females are becoming increasingly more disinterested in sex and the whole thing becomes a futile exercise in mental masturbation.