PUBERTYMAXXING GUIDE (water) (simple is best, stop overcomplicating it) (YOUNGCELS GTFIH) (botb?)

[fataholic]

You don't need 4 dht derivatives, 3 testosteorne derivatives, 2 19-nors, and hgh with countless growth hormone peptides and 19 fgf inhibitors for a simple pubertymaxxing stack.

Simple is better bhais

The below is all you need regarding skeletal development (height, frame, dimorphism).

GH/IGF-1 Axis
- 10-20ius r-hGH nightly (No, there aren't any side effects. No, ghrp+ghrh will not work and is mostly cope in puberty, not to mention is worse for your health than hgh. And, no: IGF-1 LR3 will not give you any bone growth, not one millimeter)

Androgens (HPT Axis)
- 500-1,000mg Testosterone weekly (Ideally enanthate, but every ester works perfectly, you will ideally inject every single day. Time doesn't matter hugely, just stay consistent.
- Optionally include whatever dht/test derivative, 19-nor, sarm, etc. which you want to. Play around with dosages and find what works best for you

Aromatase Inhibitors
- Anastrozole or Letrozole, dosing varies (never exemestane) (CRUCIAL if you are dosing high test)
- If you can get labs, titrate until in the 8-18 range for e2 (estradiol).
- If you can't get labs, start out with 1mg anastrozole eod or 2.5mg letrozole eod and if you dont feel horrible after 1-2 weeks, try everyday (just dont crash e2 and rope).

That's all you really need. Some hgh, some test, and an ai.

However, if you're a rich kid being spoonfed sources, one of these two (or both) would be great addons:
Romosozumab: 210mg monthly for 24 months
Teriparatide/Abaloparatide: 20-40mcg/80-100mcg daily for 24 months (Not Teri and Abalo, pick one)

Now, of course there are fgfr3 inhibitors and cnp analogs you could take, but if you're capable of sourcing them cheap enough, you're capable of doing your own research regarding their use

This was my first ever guide (I know its water), so I hope you guys have found it useful

 

[fataholic]

Guide made for the greyest greys (like me )

 

[knut1]

Why anastrozole or letrozole instead of exemestane

 

[fataholic]

Why anastrozole or letrozole instead of exemestane

exemestane doesn't suppress aromatase in any superior way to letrozole or anastrozole and the effects incredibly hard to reverse, almost irreversible

 

[Doom0]

exemestane doesn't suppress aromatase in any superior way to letrozole or anastrozole and the effects incredibly hard to reverse, almost irreversible

wym irreversible so if i crash my e2 on aromasin its over?

 

[fataholic]

wym irreversible so if i crash my e2 on aromasin its over?

No. Anastrozole and letrozole are easily reversible but if you use exemestane you will irreversibly have no aromatase.

 

[knut1]

No. Anastrozole and letrozole are easily reversible but if you use exemestane you will irreversibly have no aromatase.

Won't you just reproduce it?

 

[fataholic]

Yes it will be but aromatase is an enzyme produced so minimally that it will be very hard to recover

Won't you just reproduce it?

 

[iblameme99]

Yes it will be but aromatase is an enzyme produced so minimally that it will be very hard to recover

Wont it just come back 2 week after stopping?

 

[Deleted member 175555]

Is this satire?Has to be

 

[fataholic]

Is this satire?Has to be

Explain

 

[fataholic]

Wont it just come back 2 week after stopping?

When I used it it took me 8 weeks for my shit to normalize to the bottom of the range no way it only comes back in 2 weeks usually

 

[iblameme99]

When I used it it took me 8 weeks for my shit to normalize to the bottom of the range no way it only comes back in 2 weeks usually

Everybody can be different

 

[ETR]

does anyone know if the teriparatide sold by hyb is legit

 

[anthony267]

You don't need 4 dht derivatives, 3 testosteorne derivatives, 2 19-nors, and hgh with countless growth hormone peptides and 19 fgf inhibitors for a simple pubertymaxxing stack.

Simple is better bhais

The below is all you need regarding skeletal development (height, frame, dimorphism).

GH/IGF-1 Axis
- 10-20ius r-hGH nightly (No, there aren't any side effects. No, ghrp+ghrh will not work and is mostly cope in puberty, not to mention is worse for your health than hgh. And, no: IGF-1 LR3 will not give you any bone growth, not one millimeter)

Androgens (HPT Axis)
- 500-1,000mg Testosterone weekly (Ideally enanthate, but every ester works perfectly, you will ideally inject every single day. Time doesn't matter hugely, just stay consistent.
- Optionally include whatever dht/test derivative, 19-nor, sarm, etc. which you want to. Play around with dosages and find what works best for you

Aromatase Inhibitors
- Anastrozole or Letrozole, dosing varies (never exemestane) (CRUCIAL if you are dosing high test)
- If you can get labs, titrate until in the 8-18 range for e2 (estradiol).
- If you can't get labs, start out with 1mg anastrozole eod or 2.5mg letrozole eod and if you dont feel horrible after 1-2 weeks, try everyday (just dont crash e2 and rope).

That's all you really need. Some hgh, some test, and an ai.

However, if you're a rich kid being spoonfed sources, one of these two (or both) would be great addons:
Romosozumab: 210mg monthly for 24 months
Teriparatide/Abaloparatide: 20-40mcg/80-100mcg daily for 24 months (Not Teri and Abalo, pick one)

Now, of course there are fgfr3 inhibitors and cnp analogs you could take, but if you're capable of sourcing them cheap enough, you're capable of doing your own research regarding their use

This was my first ever guide (I know its water), so I hope you guys have found it useful

mirin guide vro

 

[fataholic]

Everybody can be different

of course

 

[fataholic]

does anyone know if the teriparatide sold by hyb is legit

pth analogs should be the last priority, prioritize aromatase inhibitors first (easiest to get), then growth hormone, then test, then pth analogs and lastly fgfr3 inhibitors

 

[silverjet579]

You don't need 4 dht derivatives, 3 testosteorne derivatives, 2 19-nors, and hgh with countless growth hormone peptides and 19 fgf inhibitors for a simple pubertymaxxing stack.

Simple is better bhais

The below is all you need regarding skeletal development (height, frame, dimorphism).

GH/IGF-1 Axis
- 10-20ius r-hGH nightly (No, there aren't any side effects. No, ghrp+ghrh will not work and is mostly cope in puberty, not to mention is worse for your health than hgh. And, no: IGF-1 LR3 will not give you any bone growth, not one millimeter)

Androgens (HPT Axis)
- 500-1,000mg Testosterone weekly (Ideally enanthate, but every ester works perfectly, you will ideally inject every single day. Time doesn't matter hugely, just stay consistent.
- Optionally include whatever dht/test derivative, 19-nor, sarm, etc. which you want to. Play around with dosages and find what works best for you

Aromatase Inhibitors
- Anastrozole or Letrozole, dosing varies (never exemestane) (CRUCIAL if you are dosing high test)
- If you can get labs, titrate until in the 8-18 range for e2 (estradiol).
- If you can't get labs, start out with 1mg anastrozole eod or 2.5mg letrozole eod and if you dont feel horrible after 1-2 weeks, try everyday (just dont crash e2 and rope).

That's all you really need. Some hgh, some test, and an ai.

However, if you're a rich kid being spoonfed sources, one of these two (or both) would be great addons:
Romosozumab: 210mg monthly for 24 months
Teriparatide/Abaloparatide: 20-40mcg/80-100mcg daily for 24 months (Not Teri and Abalo, pick one)

Now, of course there are fgfr3 inhibitors and cnp analogs you could take, but if you're capable of sourcing them cheap enough, you're capable of doing your own research regarding their use

This was my first ever guide (I know its water), so I hope you guys have found it useful

cool but low effort dnr

 

[Aether_]

You don't need 4 dht derivatives, 3 testosteorne derivatives, 2 19-nors, and hgh with countless growth hormone peptides and 19 fgf inhibitors for a simple pubertymaxxing stack.

Simple is better bhais

The below is all you need regarding skeletal development (height, frame, dimorphism).

GH/IGF-1 Axis
- 10-20ius r-hGH nightly (No, there aren't any side effects. No, ghrp+ghrh will not work and is mostly cope in puberty, not to mention is worse for your health than hgh. And, no: IGF-1 LR3 will not give you any bone growth, not one millimeter)

Androgens (HPT Axis)
- 500-1,000mg Testosterone weekly (Ideally enanthate, but every ester works perfectly, you will ideally inject every single day. Time doesn't matter hugely, just stay consistent.
- Optionally include whatever dht/test derivative, 19-nor, sarm, etc. which you want to. Play around with dosages and find what works best for you

Aromatase Inhibitors
- Anastrozole or Letrozole, dosing varies (never exemestane) (CRUCIAL if you are dosing high test)
- If you can get labs, titrate until in the 8-18 range for e2 (estradiol).
- If you can't get labs, start out with 1mg anastrozole eod or 2.5mg letrozole eod and if you dont feel horrible after 1-2 weeks, try everyday (just dont crash e2 and rope).

That's all you really need. Some hgh, some test, and an ai.

However, if you're a rich kid being spoonfed sources, one of these two (or both) would be great addons:
Romosozumab: 210mg monthly for 24 months
Teriparatide/Abaloparatide: 20-40mcg/80-100mcg daily for 24 months (Not Teri and Abalo, pick one)

Now, of course there are fgfr3 inhibitors and cnp analogs you could take, but if you're capable of sourcing them cheap enough, you're capable of doing your own research regarding their use

This was my first ever guide (I know its water), so I hope you guys have found it useful

Nice short guide for greys to learn about these type of drugs but the dosages are a little too high bc too much will speed up skeletal maturation which you do not want to that degree you would get from your dosages. You could also use hcg Instead of test as a base but that's highly questionable but then dosing the ai would be easier and you could even skip it with that low test

 

[Nodal]

You don't need 4 dht derivatives, 3 testosteorne derivatives, 2 19-nors, and hgh with countless growth hormone peptides and 19 fgf inhibitors for a simple pubertymaxxing stack.

Simple is better bhais

The below is all you need regarding skeletal development (height, frame, dimorphism).

GH/IGF-1 Axis
- 10-20ius r-hGH nightly (No, there aren't any side effects. No, ghrp+ghrh will not work and is mostly cope in puberty, not to mention is worse for your health than hgh. And, no: IGF-1 LR3 will not give you any bone growth, not one millimeter)

Androgens (HPT Axis)
- 500-1,000mg Testosterone weekly (Ideally enanthate, but every ester works perfectly, you will ideally inject every single day. Time doesn't matter hugely, just stay consistent.
- Optionally include whatever dht/test derivative, 19-nor, sarm, etc. which you want to. Play around with dosages and find what works best for you

Aromatase Inhibitors
- Anastrozole or Letrozole, dosing varies (never exemestane) (CRUCIAL if you are dosing high test)
- If you can get labs, titrate until in the 8-18 range for e2 (estradiol).
- If you can't get labs, start out with 1mg anastrozole eod or 2.5mg letrozole eod and if you dont feel horrible after 1-2 weeks, try everyday (just dont crash e2 and rope).

That's all you really need. Some hgh, some test, and an ai.

However, if you're a rich kid being spoonfed sources, one of these two (or both) would be great addons:
Romosozumab: 210mg monthly for 24 months
Teriparatide/Abaloparatide: 20-40mcg/80-100mcg daily for 24 months (Not Teri and Abalo, pick one)

Now, of course there are fgfr3 inhibitors and cnp analogs you could take, but if you're capable of sourcing them cheap enough, you're capable of doing your own research regarding their use

This was my first ever guide (I know its water), so I hope you guys have found it useful

aint no way you think this is botb worthy

 

[Punjabi Waffen]

You don't need 4 dht derivatives, 3 testosteorne derivatives, 2 19-nors, and hgh

Actually you do

 

[fataholic]

Actually you do

fair play then

 

[e65man]

You don't need 4 dht derivatives, 3 testosteorne derivatives, 2 19-nors, and hgh with countless growth hormone peptides and 19 fgf inhibitors for a simple pubertymaxxing stack.

Simple is better bhais

The below is all you need regarding skeletal development (height, frame, dimorphism).

GH/IGF-1 Axis
- 10-20ius r-hGH nightly (No, there aren't any side effects. No, ghrp+ghrh will not work and is mostly cope in puberty, not to mention is worse for your health than hgh. And, no: IGF-1 LR3 will not give you any bone growth, not one millimeter)

Androgens (HPT Axis)
- 500-1,000mg Testosterone weekly (Ideally enanthate, but every ester works perfectly, you will ideally inject every single day. Time doesn't matter hugely, just stay consistent.
- Optionally include whatever dht/test derivative, 19-nor, sarm, etc. which you want to. Play around with dosages and find what works best for you

Aromatase Inhibitors
- Anastrozole or Letrozole, dosing varies (never exemestane) (CRUCIAL if you are dosing high test)
- If you can get labs, titrate until in the 8-18 range for e2 (estradiol).
- If you can't get labs, start out with 1mg anastrozole eod or 2.5mg letrozole eod and if you dont feel horrible after 1-2 weeks, try everyday (just dont crash e2 and rope).

That's all you really need. Some hgh, some test, and an ai.

However, if you're a rich kid being spoonfed sources, one of these two (or both) would be great addons:
Romosozumab: 210mg monthly for 24 months
Teriparatide/Abaloparatide: 20-40mcg/80-100mcg daily for 24 months (Not Teri and Abalo, pick one)

Now, of course there are fgfr3 inhibitors and cnp analogs you could take, but if you're capable of sourcing them cheap enough, you're capable of doing your own research regarding their use

This was my first ever guide (I know its water), so I hope you guys have found it useful

mirin thread but y no fgfr3 inhibitors?

 

[e65man]

You don't need 4 dht derivatives, 3 testosteorne derivatives, 2 19-nors, and hgh with countless growth hormone peptides and 19 fgf inhibitors for a simple pubertymaxxing stack.

Simple is better bhais

The below is all you need regarding skeletal development (height, frame, dimorphism).

GH/IGF-1 Axis
- 10-20ius r-hGH nightly (No, there aren't any side effects. No, ghrp+ghrh will not work and is mostly cope in puberty, not to mention is worse for your health than hgh. And, no: IGF-1 LR3 will not give you any bone growth, not one millimeter)

Androgens (HPT Axis)
- 500-1,000mg Testosterone weekly (Ideally enanthate, but every ester works perfectly, you will ideally inject every single day. Time doesn't matter hugely, just stay consistent.
- Optionally include whatever dht/test derivative, 19-nor, sarm, etc. which you want to. Play around with dosages and find what works best for you

Aromatase Inhibitors
- Anastrozole or Letrozole, dosing varies (never exemestane) (CRUCIAL if you are dosing high test)
- If you can get labs, titrate until in the 8-18 range for e2 (estradiol).
- If you can't get labs, start out with 1mg anastrozole eod or 2.5mg letrozole eod and if you dont feel horrible after 1-2 weeks, try everyday (just dont crash e2 and rope).

That's all you really need. Some hgh, some test, and a


nigga

 

[Vass]

No, ghrp+ghrh is worse for your health than hgh.

Not true

- 10-20ius r-hGH nightly

Have you ever taken this amount? If not then you don't have the credibility to advise it. Also HGH dosing is weight dependent, for a lightass nigga 6-8 IUs can still work well

And, no: IGF-1 LR3 will not give you any bone growth, not one millimeter)

It absolutely will why, will it not, it's there's just better alternatives

dosing varies (never exemestane)

literally no fucking difference they all do one job with slightly different sides

That's all you really need. Some hgh, some test, and an ai.

Waterest water ever even tiktokcels know this

No. Anastrozole and letrozole are easily reversible but if you use exemestane you will irreversibly have no aromatase.

Are you actually stupid nigga, new aromatase enzymes are being created constantly. The "irreversible" means each aromatase is irreversibly destroyed, not that your E2 is irreversibly shut down. letrozole which has a half life of roughly 4 days is gonna suppress your E2 for longer than exemestane btw which has a half life of 1 day

 

[fataholic]

Are you actually stupid nigga, new aromatase enzymes are being created constantly. The "irreversible" means each aromatase is irreversibly destroyed, not that your E2 is irreversibly shut down. letrozole which has a half life of roughly 4 days is gonna suppress your E2 for longer than exemestane btw which has a half life of 1 day

It stresses your body to create enzymes when you dont need to. You're pointlessly taking energy from yourself.

It absolutely will why, will it not, it's there's just better alternatives

LR3 doesnt bind to igfbps which is required for it to act on your bones you iqlet oh my god

³Waterest water ever even tiktokcels know this

Tiktokcels are stuck on growth hormone peptides and hcg my tiktokcel friend literally texted me yesterday and his stack for bone growth and to ascend was cjc ipa, reta, ghkcu, and bpc

Have you ever taken this amount? If not then you don't have the credibility to advise it. Also HGH dosing is weight dependent, for a lightass nigga 6-8 IUs can still work well

I have, actually. I did 20ius my first 6 weeks to Kickstart then went down to 15 and now am at 12. You're right I should have clarified by weight 0.05-0.11mg/kg/day but I presumed everyone here was above the 1st percentile ill include it if i ever redo it.

Not true

Good argument. Ghrps and ghrh are incredibly weak compared to gh for achieving a higher constant igf-1. Even though they will work, no ghrp+ghrh combo is better than a low dose like 4-6ius of hgh. Unless you get them for fucking free and you cant get hgh there's no point.

 

[fraudster#1]

Androgens (HPT Axis)
- 500-1,000mg Testosterone weekly (

gl with this dosage bro

 

[Vass]

It stresses your body to create enzymes when you dont need to. You're pointlessly taking energy from yourself.

It's doesn't create stress whatsoever lmao your body is constantly creating enzymes anyways your enzymes recycle very quick

LR3 doesnt bind to igfbps which is required for it to act on your bones you iqlet oh my god

No it is not "required" there's just more binding complex releasers in bones and muscles therefore binded IGF-1 affects organs less. LR3 which does not bind affects everything equally. It can perfectly well grow your bones, it's just not the best method because IGF-1 spares organs more.

Tiktokcels are stuck on growth hormone peptides and hcg my tiktokcel friend literally texted me yesterday and his stack for bone growth and to ascend was cjc ipa, reta, ghkcu, and bpc

True they are more common though it's not like hgh and test are uncommon there are tons of tiktok edits about hgh for some reason, and tons of people who post their test journey on tiktok

I have, actually. I did 20ius my first 6 weeks to Kickstart then went down to 15 and now am at 12. You're right I should have clarified by weight 0.05-0.11mg/kg/day but I presumed everyone here was above the 1st percentile ill include it if i ever redo it.

Nice

 

[fataholic]

It's doesn't create stress whatsoever lmao your body is constantly creating enzymes anyways your enzymes recycle very quick

It costs 4 atp per Amino acid meaning 1,000-3,000 atp per enzyme. It's not stressful when you make them regularly but when you suddenly need 300x production rate it can be a lot of cellular work and if you dont eat enough protein and vitamins you cant fold them properly and it causes ER stress but yes the stress is probably negligible short term

 

[fataholic]

No it is not "required" there's just more binding complex releasers in bones and muscles therefore binded IGF-1 affects organs less. LR3 which does not bind affects everything equally. It can perfectly well grow your bones, it's just not the best method because IGF-1 spares organs more

Igf1 used for growth is made locally in the bone if you have a bunch of lr3 circulating it would actually lower your igf1 levels. Igfbps control IGF-1 by binding it, localizing it to the growth plate, and releasing it in a way that matches chondrocyte development. Lr3 binds poorly to IGFBPs which is why it has a long half life, but it isn’t effectively concentrated or retained in the growth plate matrix, so its signaling becomes diffused and less targeted. Igfbp timing and localization is required for max signaling efficiency and would be really weak without the bps. Igf1 des would work great for bone growth because its localized and very powerful. If only there was a systemic localized long acting drug, that'd be the best shit ever.

 

[Vass]

Igf1 used for growth is made locally in the bone if you have a bunch of lr3 circulating it would actually lower your igf1 levels. Igfbps control IGF-1 by binding it, localizing it to the growth plate, and releasing it in a way that matches chondrocyte development. Lr3 binds poorly to IGFBPs which is why it has a long half life, but it isn’t effectively concentrated or retained in the growth plate matrix, so its signaling becomes diffused and less targeted. Igfbp timing and localization is required for max signaling efficiency and would be really weak without the bps. Igf1 des would work great for bone growth because its localized and very powerful. If only there was a systemic localized long acting drug, that'd be the best shit ever.

Des can’t effectively hit bone in most cases. The reason it’s “localized” is because its half life is so short it doesn’t have time to reach the bloodstream. There are probably ways to get it to act on bone but I would imagine that to be pretty difficult to implement

Circulating igf-1 still has effect on bones

Igf1 used for growth is made locally in the bone if you have a bunch of lr3 circulating it would actually lower your igf1 levels. Igfbps control IGF-1 by binding it, localizing it to the growth plate, and releasing it in a way that matches chondrocyte development. Lr3 binds poorly to IGFBPs which is why it has a long half life, but it isn’t effectively concentrated or retained in the growth plate matrix, so its signaling becomes diffused and less targeted. Igfbp timing and localization is required for max signaling efficiency and would be really weak without the bps. Igf1 des would work great for bone growth because its localized and very powerful. If only there was a systemic localized long acting drug, that'd be the best shit ever.

Des can’t effectively hit bone in most cases. The reason it’s “localized” is because its half life is so short it doesn’t have time to reach the bloodstream. There are probably ways to get it to act on bone but I would imagine that to be pretty difficult to implement

Circulating igf-1 still has effect on bones bro

 

[obeseautist]

You don't need 4 dht derivatives, 3 testosteorne derivatives, 2 19-nors, and hgh with countless growth hormone peptides and 19 fgf inhibitors for a simple pubertymaxxing stack.

Simple is better bhais

The below is all you need regarding skeletal development (height, frame, dimorphism).

GH/IGF-1 Axis
- 10-20ius r-hGH nightly (No, there aren't any side effects. No, ghrp+ghrh will not work and is mostly cope in puberty, not to mention is worse for your health than hgh. And, no: IGF-1 LR3 will not give you any bone growth, not one millimeter)

Androgens (HPT Axis)
- 500-1,000mg Testosterone weekly (Ideally enanthate, but every ester works perfectly, you will ideally inject every single day. Time doesn't matter hugely, just stay consistent.
- Optionally include whatever dht/test derivative, 19-nor, sarm, etc. which you want to. Play around with dosages and find what works best for you

Aromatase Inhibitors
- Anastrozole or Letrozole, dosing varies (never exemestane) (CRUCIAL if you are dosing high test)
- If you can get labs, titrate until in the 8-18 range for e2 (estradiol).
- If you can't get labs, start out with 1mg anastrozole eod or 2.5mg letrozole eod and if you dont feel horrible after 1-2 weeks, try everyday (just dont crash e2 and rope).

That's all you really need. Some hgh, some test, and an ai.

However, if you're a rich kid being spoonfed sources, one of these two (or both) would be great addons:
Romosozumab: 210mg monthly for 24 months
Teriparatide/Abaloparatide: 20-40mcg/80-100mcg daily for 24 months (Not Teri and Abalo, pick one)

Now, of course there are fgfr3 inhibitors and cnp analogs you could take, but if you're capable of sourcing them cheap enough, you're capable of doing your own research regarding their use

This was my first ever guide (I know its water), so I hope you guys have found it useful

Wouldnt local aromatisation nuke height?

 

[fataholic]

Wouldnt local aromatisation nuke height?

Exactly so we dont want it

 

[obeseautist]

Exactly so we dont want it

How would you negate it? I heard aromatase inhibitors only reduce serum e2 and dont effect local aromatisation, correct me if im wrong tho

 

[fataholic]

ofc they inhibit and even if they dont does it matter it still grows them a ton in studies

How would you negate it? I heard aromatase inhibitors only reduce serum e2 and dont effect local aromatisation, correct me if im wrong tho