QOVESCURRY just debunked pretty boi theory?

[Thecovenant]

factoids he raised against pretty boys:
-Masculine faces get better rating by women
-Masculine features get better rating by women
-By not being on birth control women seem to prefer more masc faces, by being on birth control they prefer more fem (bull-cuck theory)
-Prettier the women -> more masc men she preferred
-better hip to waist ratio -> more masc she preffered
-better rated by other women -> more masc face she preferred
-being respected by other men and women more

arguements that could counter these
-The not masc faces will be just less attractive in general, meaning they will probably depict two sides, either more fem or more masc, by logic the more masc should be more attractive, longer ,wider chin, better jaw, more lean etc. It would be better to pick the fem and masc traits out and mix them together, like masc lower third fem nose etc, see which one gets the highest.
-Lot of contradicting research on birth control changing preferences or not
-same arguement as the above not counting in the attractiveness of the individual
-probably testing adult females not JBs.
-the last is true even if you are a pretty boi males wil think ur an easy target.

so this is why i think qoves is wrong, he misrepresented a fem face with a faggot who has square jaw , hollow cheeks etc, instead of a full on more feminine guy, also the study above misrepresented masc guys, masc traits include more shallow cheekbones, narrower/thinner lips, more receded hairline, it looks cherry picked.

QUESTION IS , CAN VINNIE HACKER LIKE TYPE MOG A MASC TYPE LIKE NICK BATEMAN? IT SEEMS LIKE IRL HE CAN.

let me know your thoughts niggers

@alriodai @Seth Walsh @Blackgymmax

 

[alriodai]

pretty boys have masculine faces
they just have long hair and fraud lips sometimes

Give them short hair and they look like ur typical high school jock

 

[MakinMogReturns]

pretty boys have masculine faces
they just have long hair and fraud lips sometimes

Give them short hair and they look like ur typical high school jock

Factual.

 

[Thecovenant]

pretty boys have masculine faces
they just have long hair and fraud lips sometimes

Give them short hair and they look like ur typical high school jock

Still i dont think Vinnie would have very sexually dimorphic face, ofc it would be above average but not top tier as the studies mention it linearly correlates with rating.

it would be better if they tested more fem and masc combined together than 2 sides tho, thats why i think pretty bois mog

end of the day qoves still falsely represented a "fem" face with a guy whose jaw is above average dimorphic by far

 

[Deleted member 7725]

This is already water. Girls chugs birth control by the handful until they're 30 and ready to settle down. That's when they want a tall masculine guy with a beard and muscles. Until then, prettyboys rule.

 

[Deleted member 7725]

Still i dont think Vinnie would have very sexually dimorphic face, ofc it would be above average but not top tier as the studies mention it linearly correlates with rating.

it would be better if they tested more fem and masc combined together than 2 sides tho, thats why i think pretty bois mog

end of the day qoves still falsely represented a "fem" face with a guy whose jaw is above average dimorphic by far

Vinnie has a chiseled model face. What are you on about? His only distinctly feminine feature is his lips. Everything else is masculine.

 

[Thecovenant]

Vinnie has a chiseled model face. What are you on about? His only distinctly feminine feature is his lips. Everything else is masculine.

Lips, nose, eye area, mainly tilt/UEE, cheekbones.

model face doesnt equal masc you dumb fuck, you are making the same mistakes i pointed out in the thread.

 

[MakinMogReturns]

Lips, nose, eye area, mainly tilt/UEE, cheekbones.

model face doesnt equal masc you dumb fuck, you are making the same mistakes i pointed out in the thread.

Nigga what?

 

[Thecovenant]

This is already water. Girls chugs birth control by the handful until they're 30 and ready to settle down. That's when they want a tall masculine guy with a beard and muscles. Until then, prettyboys rule.

Opposite what it says tho, the studies atleast

 

[Thecovenant]

Nigga what?

which one you dont understand?
Thin lips is more masc, same with wider/Bigger nose to an extent, cheekbone mass is correlated with gender too, his cheekbones are massive which looks good imo but still not a msc feature

 

[sub5inchcel]

which one you dont understand?
Thin lips is more masc, same with wider/Bigger nose to an extent, cheekbone mass is correlated with gender too, his cheekbones are massive which looks good imo but still not a msc feature

how do you determine if lips are thin or tthick

 

[MakinMogReturns]

which one you dont understand?
Thin lips is more masc, same with wider/Bigger nose to an extent, cheekbone mass is correlated with gender too, his cheekbones are massive which looks good imo but still not a msc feature

You have zero knowledge of facial aesthetics. @LooksOverAll Look at this lol.

 

[Thecovenant]

You have zero knowledge of facial aesthetics. @LooksOverAll Look at this lol.

cant argue so i will tag my buddy boyo atleast i wont cry alone

fucking faggot kill yourself. these are all well researched you are just a low iq peasent. These are not a matter of aesthetics dumb fuck.

 

[Deleted member 18361]

how do you determine if lips are thin or tthick

you only see this on looksmax.org

 

[MakinMogReturns]

cant argue so i will tag my buddy boyo atleast i wont cry alone

fucking faggot kill yourself. these are all well researched you are just a low iq peasent.

Comical "these are all well researched".

 

[Thecovenant]

how do you determine if lips are thin or tthick

Literally just look at them, not everything has to be a measure, im sure there are measurements online tho.

 

[MakinMogReturns]

you only see this on looksmax.org

Caging hard right now dude these idiots roam wild.

 

[Gengar]

how do you determine if lips are thin or tthick

Thin: monkey lips
Thick: fish lips

 

[Deleted member 22126]

muh studies. We dont even know the age of the women that rated the features

 

[TsarTsar444]

Pretty much legit, in the Balkans birth control is non existent so no wonder i see cute 20-25yo hqnp looking girls even in a relationship with some nw3 20% bf ogre looking stubble maxed balkancel jfl

 

[MakinMogReturns]

Pretty much legit, in the Balkans birth control is non existent so no wonder i see cute 20-25yo hqnp looking girls even in a relationship with some nw3 20% bf ogre looking stubble maxed balkancel jfl

Facts!

 

[Deleted member 20781]

pretty boys have masculine faces
they just have long hair and fraud lips sometimes

Give them short hair and they look like ur typical high school jock

Yeah so true these mfs are thinking of a feminine looking guy with a round jaw that isn't the type of "pretty boy" girls go for they go for chads with pretty hair

 

[alriodai]

Still i dont think Vinnie would have very sexually dimorphic face, ofc it would be above average but not top tier as the studies mention it linearly correlates with rating.

it would be better if they tested more fem and masc combined together than 2 sides tho, thats why i think pretty bois mog

end of the day qoves still falsely represented a "fem" face with a guy whose jaw is above average dimorphic by far

he had short hair or like slicked hair in some photo shoots and he looked like a high school Chad bully

 

[Thecovenant]

he had short hair or like slicked hair in some photo shoots and he looked like a high school Chad bully

he has short hair here, if this guy looks intimidating to any extent to you, i will personally prescribe to you trt

 

[Deleted member 20781]

he has short hair here, if this guy looks intimidating to any extent to you, i will personally prescribe to you trt
View attachment 1902639

That is not short masculine hair lmao. That is cringe tiktok fag hair. Let's see him with a buzz cut and some masculine clothes. Oh and also without lip filler

 

[Thecovenant]

That is not short masculine hair lmao. That is cringe tiktok fag hair. Let's see him with a buzz cut and some masculine clothes. Oh and also without lip filler

what is masc clothes? You think muscle shirt would look masc on a 130lb guy? He porpusfully doesnt get buzcut cuz he is balding with curved hair line. also he doesnt have lip fillers lips are part of his face which we are talking about

btw i think his face is above average masc but its not like top tier. its masc where it needs to be thats it.

 

[Deleted member 20781]

what is masc clothes? You think muscle shirt would look masc on a 130lb guy? He porpusfully doesnt get buzcut cuz he is balding with curved hair line. also he doesnt have lip fillers lips are part of his face which we are talking about

He's literally wearing no shirt underneath there and it's just some weird fashion piece. If he was just wearing a regular fitting t shirt doesn't have to be muscle fit and he had a buzz cut and no lip filler he would look pretty masculine. He has a masculine jaw if you think it's not masculine ur coping

 

[Deleted member 22126]

what is masc clothes? You think muscle shirt would look masc on a 130lb guy? He porpusfully doesnt get buzcut cuz he is balding with curved hair line. also he doesnt have lip fillers lips are part of his face which we are talking about

btw i think his face is above average masc but its not like top tier. its masc where it needs to be thats it.

ogre cope

 

[Deleted member 20781]

what is masc clothes? You think muscle shirt would look masc on a 130lb guy? He porpusfully doesnt get buzcut cuz he is balding with curved hair line. also he doesnt have lip fillers lips are part of his face which we are talking about

btw i think his face is above average masc but its not like top tier. its masc where it needs to be thats it.

Look at this picture lmao if he can grow a beard eventually he would look extremely masculine.

 

[alriodai]

That is not short masculine hair lmao. That is cringe tiktok fag hair. Let's see him with a buzz cut and some masculine clothes. Oh and also without lip fillerli

Lip fillers? I have similar lips and never had fillers

 

[Deleted member 20781]

Lip fillers? I have similar lips and never had fillers

There are just pics when vinnie was younger and his lips look thinner. It's not a big deal anyway he still looks masculine with short hair

 

[alriodai]

There are just pics when vinnie was younger and his lips look thinner. It's not a big deal anyway he still looks masculine with short hair

Bro are u slow
I also had thinner lips younger as a baby LMAO
AS MORE u grow ur teeth get better and palate wider and ur lips look bigger if ur face development is good

jfl at lip fillers
Niggas will say anything to cope

 

[Thecovenant]

Bro are u slow
I also had thinner lips younger as a baby LMAO
AS MORE u grow ur teeth get better and palate wider and ur lips look bigger if ur face development is good

jfl at lip fillers
Niggas will say anything to cope

he is a fucking moron his lips look good it adds to his looks characteristics (not all masc features are good!)

this thread was a disaster filled w low iq morons im offically ignoring it

 

[Deleted member 20781]

Bro are u slow
I also had thinner lips younger as a baby LMAO
AS MORE u grow ur teeth get better and palate wider and ur lips look bigger if ur face development is good

jfl at lip fillers
Niggas will say anything to cope

What am I coping for? The pic I saw he was like 17 or 18 and his lips looked different. I don't care if he had lip fillers or not dumb nigger LMAO. It had nothing to do with what I said really. I was just saying if vinnie wasn't prettyboymaxxed he would look masculine. You can clearly see he does in that one pic I posted.

 

[Deleted member 20781]

he is a fucking moron his lips look good it adds to his looks characteristics (not all masc features are good!)

this thread was a disaster filled w low iq morons im offically ignoring it

I wasn't saying he looked bad dumbass. I was just saying it's possible lip fillers were apart of his prettyboymaxxing. Even if they weren't it doesn't matter anyway he still looks masculine with short clean cut hair

 

[BucketCrab]

1. The birth control study thing has been debunked a long time ago.
The study in question was riddled with issues and all studies made after that have proved there's no strong correlation between what a woman finds attractive and birth control; a small variation is measured during her menstrual cycle, but it's very minimal.

2. Prettyboys don't have "feminine" faces. That's a misunderstanding by retarded men who think masculine means bulky, rugged, unpleasant or straight up ugly; faces with pronounced cheekbones, defined jawline and strong brow ridges can be beautiful and masculine at the same time. That's what a prettyboy's face is supposed to be; but male-gaze copers look at a face like this

And automatically think he looks like a girl because of his skin, lips and hair.

3. Female attractiveness was self-reported. That means it's not that prettier women want more masculine men, but rather that women who consider themselves prettier want more masculine men. This is hardly new; toxic entitled cunts want a traditional masculine man but don't want to act traditional themselves.

It's the type of low-class woman that's only into thugs, wears too much jewellery and always talks real fucking loud. HQNP prime girls? They are fawning over the latest Timothee Chalamet movie.

 

[Manu le coq]

average pretyboy korean enjoyer

average high t enjoyer girl

real attractive women want real attractive men most of the time

 

[ArdaxHG]

Thin lips and receeded hairline is not masc traits you coper.

 

[klip11]

pretty boys have masculine faces
they just have long hair and fraud lips sometimes

Give them short hair and they look like ur typical high school jock

Are you the legendary Vinnie hacker?

 

[klip11]

This is already water.

How is it water as opposed to some other liquid? Come to think of it, your statement makes no sense. How can words on a screen be water?

 

[MakinMogReturns]

How is it water as opposed to some other liquid? Come to think of it, your statement makes no sense. How can words on a screen be water?

Peace and love.

 

[AspiringMogger]

Still i dont think Vinnie would have very sexually dimorphic face, ofc it would be above average but not top tier as the studies mention it linearly correlates with rating.

it would be better if they tested more fem and masc combined together than 2 sides tho, thats why i think pretty bois mog

end of the day qoves still falsely represented a "fem" face with a guy whose jaw is above average dimorphic by far

pretty boys have masculine faces
they just have long hair and fraud lips sometimes

Give them short hair and they look like ur typical high school jock

The most important pretty boy traits are high set Zygos, steeper gonial angle, and boyish eye area. Hair length has very little to do with it. Exhibit A:

 

[Blackgymmax]

pretty boys have masculine faces
they just have long hair and fraud lips sometimes

Give them short hair and they look like ur typical high school jock

No lol. Vinnie doesn't look like a jock no matter what. Alot of them need longer hair to pass as a chad where as jocks dont need to fraud

 

[alriodai]

No lol. Vinnie doesn't look like a jock no matter what. Alot of them need longer hair to pass as a chad where as jocks dont need to fraud

im too lazy to show u the picture of vinnie with college photoshoot and him in slicked shorter hair tbh

 

[Blackgymmax]

And the most attractive jbs always prefer prettyboys. Im just cringing too hard at this. ATTRACTIVE PRIME JBS ALWAYS WANT PRETTYBOYS.

 

[Thecovenant]

1. The birth control study thing has been debunked a long time ago.
The study in question was riddled with issues and all studies made after that have proved there's no strong correlation between what a woman finds attractive and birth control; a small variation is measured during her menstrual cycle, but it's very minimal.

2. Prettyboys don't have "feminine" faces. That's a misunderstanding by retarded men who think masculine means bulky, rugged, unpleasant or straight up ugly; faces with pronounced cheekbones, defined jawline and strong brow ridges can be beautiful and masculine at the same time. That's what a prettyboy's face is supposed to be; but male-gaze copers look at a face like this
View attachment 1902659
And automatically think he looks like a girl because of his skin, lips and hair.

3. Female attractiveness was self-reported. That means it's not that prettier women want more masculine men, but rather that women who consider themselves prettier want more masculine men. This is hardly new; toxic entitled cunts want a traditional masculine man but don't want to act traditional themselves.

It's the type of low-class woman that's only into thugs, wears too much jewellery and always talks real fucking loud. HQNP prime girls? They are fawning over the latest Timothee Chalamet movie.

It was not only self reported attractiveness but rated by others aswell, rest i agree i pointed out in my thread all of them

my point that qoves shouldnt have used a vinnie hacker type nigga as feminine.

 

[Thecovenant]

Thin lips and receeded hairline is not masc traits you coper.

You retard low iq peasents know nothing but shit all your baboonery
"We further show how faces with different degrees of masculinity or maleness can be constructed in a geometric morphometric framework. In an application of these methods to a set of human facial photographs, we found that shape features typically perceived as masculine are wide faces with a wide inter-orbital distance, a wide nose, thin lips, and a large and massive lower face."

The Morphometrics of “Masculinity” in Human Faces

In studies of social inference and human mate preference, a wide but inconsistent array of tools for computing facial masculinity has been devised. Several of these approaches implicitly assumed that the individual expression of sexually dimorphic shape ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[ArdaxHG]

You retard low iq peasents know nothing but shit all your baboonery
"We further show how faces with different degrees of masculinity or maleness can be constructed in a geometric morphometric framework. In an application of these methods to a set of human facial photographs, we found that shape features typically perceived as masculine are wide faces with a wide inter-orbital distance, a wide nose, thin lips, and a large and massive lower face."

The Morphometrics of “Masculinity” in Human Faces

In studies of social inference and human mate preference, a wide but inconsistent array of tools for computing facial masculinity has been devised. Several of these approaches implicitly assumed that the individual expression of sexually dimorphic shape ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

It says perceived you dumbass not correlated or measured. People think thin lips are masc cuz most time guys with big jaws but normal sized lips seems thin lipped.

 

[Thecovenant]

It says perceived you dumbass not correlated or measured. People think thin lips are masc cuz most time guys with big jaws but normal sized lips seems thin lipped.

How can face masculinity be measured by not looking at your face?hmm you fucking retarded imbecile. You cut off your nose and measure the testosterone of the blood suply in the nose itself? degenerate

 

[Deleted member 7725]

Lips, nose, eye area, mainly tilt/UEE, cheekbones.

model face doesnt equal masc you dumb fuck, you are making the same mistakes i pointed out in the thread.

Eye area? You realize NCT is a masculine trait if anything. His browridge and eyebrows are masculine. Not sure how UEE is a feminine trait. Cheekbones are high-set and projected. His nose is straight, possibly even crooked.

Typical greycel.