QOVESCURRY just debunked pretty boi theory?

[ArdaxHG]

How can face masculinity be measured by not looking at your face?hmm you fucking retarded imbecile. You cut off your nose and measure the testosterone of the blood suply in the nose itself? degenerate

Dudes outta there also thinks as reptilian skin as masculine feature does it makes it masculine? No. Hair and lips are indicators of youth and health. Have good time with your retarded theories.

Prenatal sex hormones, digit ratio, and face shape in adult males

Several reports have demonstrated a relationship between second to fourth digit ratio (2D:4D) and facial shape, suggesting that prenatal sex hormones play a role in the development of the craniofacial complex. Using 3D surface imaging and geometric morphometrics, ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Men with lower 2D:4D tended to have more protrusive mandibles, noses, and lips. These facial features have been associated with more ‘masculine’ appearance (2,22,23), supporting the role of androgens"

 

[CometDragon]

pretty boys have masculine faces
they just have long hair and fraud lips sometimes

Give them short hair and they look like ur typical high school jock

True, idk how people misunderstand this. Every pretty boy ive seen has a crazy jawline.

 

[Thecovenant]

Dudes outta there also thinks as reptilian skin as masculine feature does it makes it masculine? No. Hair and lips are indicators of youth and health. Have good time with your retarded theories.

Prenatal sex hormones, digit ratio, and face shape in adult males

Several reports have demonstrated a relationship between second to fourth digit ratio (2D:4D) and facial shape, suggesting that prenatal sex hormones play a role in the development of the craniofacial complex. Using 3D surface imaging and geometric morphometrics, ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Men with lower 2D:4D tended to have more protrusive mandibles, noses, and lips. These facial features have been associated with more ‘masculine’ appearance (2,22,23), supporting the role of androgens"

You are just too low iq to have convo with me, first of all the 2d:4d is highly debated topic whether its true or not and its FOR prenatal testosterone.
also protrusive lips doesnt equal lip width. idiot.

second of all we are talking about facial MASCULINITY, shit like thin lips signal facial masculinity, idgaf about youth and health you fucking subhuman low iq moron. just kill yourself you are sub 80 iq.

 

[Thecovenant]

Eye area? You realize NCT is a masculine trait if anything. His browridge and eyebrows are masculine. Not sure how UEE is a feminine trait. Cheekbones are high-set and projected. His nose is straight, possibly even crooked.

Typical greycel.

You are literally just an autistic sub temp low iq peasent. His browridge is shit there fore -> correlates with hooding. thats why its a masc trait
in what earth he has good browridge? low iq incel
his eyes are just vertically big, another fem trait

cheekbones are not high set they are medium set and very high in mass -> fem trait.

his nose is puny and not crooked whatso ever, just blow your brain out fucking retard.

i also love how you left out the rest i mentioned haha. fucking retard.

 

[T-2014]

And the most attractive jbs always prefer prettyboys. Im just cringing too hard at this. ATTRACTIVE PRIME JBS ALWAYS WANT PRETTYBOYS.

If in your mid or late 20s and look like a prettyboy just go for girls way younger than you.

 

[Xangsane]

also he doesnt have lip fillers lips

He does.

 

[Xangsane]

If in your mid or late 20s and look like a prettyboy just go for girls way younger than you.

These girls don't have a pot to piss in and don't know what they want...

 

[SubhumanCurrycel]

pretty boys have masculine faces
they just have long hair and fraud lips sometimes

Give them short hair and they look like ur typical high school jock

Ive said this time and time again
Retards here think prettyboy = feminine or androgenized men which simply isn't the case

 

[Xangsane]

I wasn't saying he looked bad dumbass. I was just saying it's possible lip fillers were apart of his prettyboymaxxing. Even if they weren't it doesn't matter anyway he still looks masculine with short clean cut hair

Of course lip fillers were part of it. He's white.

 

[Deprived]

These girls don't have a pot to piss in and don't know what they want...

and they are also on average 10x better looking than women over 25.

 

[TheLastABCcel]

"Prettyboy" is an aesthetic. The actual difference in morphology is almost negligible

same guy
same bones
different aesthetic
"feminine features" isn't what makes or breaks a prettyboy USUALLY

 

[Deleted member 7725]

You are literally just an autistic sub temp low iq peasent. His browridge is shit there fore -> correlates with hooding. thats why its a masc trait
in what earth he has good browridge? low iq incel
his eyes are just vertically big, another fem trait

cheekbones are not high set they are medium set and very high in mass -> fem trait.

his nose is puny and not crooked whatso ever, just blow your brain out fucking retard.

i also love how you left out the rest i mentioned haha. fucking retard.

Literally blind.

 

[ArdaxHG]

You are just too low iq to have convo with me, first of all the 2d:4d is highly debated topic whether its true or not and its FOR prenatal testosterone.
also protrusive lips doesnt equal lip width. idiot.

second of all we are talking about facial MASCULINITY, shit like thin lips signal facial masculinity, idgaf about youth and health you fucking subhuman low iq moron. just kill yourself you are sub 80 iq.

Thin lips have nothing to do with masculinity you faggot. Lip width correlates with palate width and a wide palate is a moggrr trait signalling good development and increases perceived leadership ability. There are dozens of studies that supports the relationship between Prenatal T and digit ratio. You probably are a low pre T twink who doesnt want to accept the truth and copes with muh thin lips masc muh receeding hairline masc in reality thpse have nothing to do with androgens. Lip prominance also means bigger lips you faggot first learn how to resd than insult others you fsggot ass pig

Proportions in the upper lip-lower lip-chin area of the lower face as determined by photogrammetric method - PubMed

This study is concentrated on the lower face profile, the emphasis being given to the lips and chin area which have been analysed by various proportions. A sample consisted of 110 subjects (52 males and 58 females) with good soft tissue profile, dental class I and Caucasian type. All the records...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

" Almost all the vertical profile measurements were greater in males than in females. The only variables with no gender differences were lower (Li-Sto) and upper vermilion heights"

 

[Thecovenant]

Thin lips have nothing to do with masculinity you faggot. Lip width correlates with palate width and a wide palate is a moggrr trait signalling good development and increases perceived leadership ability. There are dozens of studies that supports the relationship between Prenatal T and digit ratio. You probably are a low pre T twink who doesnt want to accept the truth and copes with muh thin lips masc muh receeding hairline masc in reality thpse have nothing to do with androgens. Lip prominance also means bigger lips you faggot first learn how to resd than insult others you fsggot ass pig

Proportions in the upper lip-lower lip-chin area of the lower face as determined by photogrammetric method - PubMed

This study is concentrated on the lower face profile, the emphasis being given to the lips and chin area which have been analysed by various proportions. A sample consisted of 110 subjects (52 males and 58 females) with good soft tissue profile, dental class I and Caucasian type. All the records...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

" Almost all the vertical profile measurements were greater in males than in females. The only variables with no gender differences were lower (Li-Sto) and upper vermilion heights"

first of all idgaf about your palate mewing theories, its mainly genetics, the "dozen" of studies never take Umbilical cord blood sample sizes they are retarded, when they do take, 2d:4d found to be not accurate. to say that hairloss has nothing to do with androgens shows your room temp faggot iq

1, you try to prove your point by linking some obscure 2d:4d study about lip protrusion, when lip protrusion doesnt equal big lips, look at east asians with the 1st-2nd highest bimaxillary protrusion amongs races, arguably they have the smallest lips.

2, second of all you take total measurements from a 100N sample size shitty abstract without ratios or anything, if i measure the pelvis sizes amongst 2.00m man and regular women, if the man has more does that make it a feminine trait now? stupid idiot man. its all about the ratios, also the norm shouldnt determine what looks masculine or not its just stupid.


literally gish galloping because if you google thin lips testosterone , its clear percieved masculinity is more with thin lips


study where they measured cord blood testosterone and morphed faces, also debunked 2d:4d.

https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rspb.2015.1351

 

[ArdaxHG]

first of all idgaf about your palate mewing theories, its mainly genetics, the "dozen" of studies never take Umbilical cord blood sample sizes they are retarded, when they do take, 2d:4d found to be not accurate. to say that hairloss has nothing to do with androgens shows your room temp faggot iq

1, you try to prove your point by linking some obscure 2d:4d study about lip protrusion, when lip protrusion doesnt equal big lips, look at east asians with the 1st-2nd highest bimaxillary protrusion amongs races, arguably they have the smallest lips.

2, second of all you take total measurements from a 100N sample size shitty abstract without ratios or anything, if i measure the pelvis sizes amongst 2.00m man and regular women, if the man has more does that make it a feminine trait now? stupid idiot man. its all about the ratios, also the norm shouldnt determine what looks masculine or not its just stupid.


literally gish galloping because if you google thin lips testosterone , its clear percieved masculinity is more with thin lips


study where they measured cord blood testosterone and morphed faces, also debunked 2d:4d.

https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rspb.2015.1351

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You faggot I literally said the same thing Masc man seem to have smaller lips just cuz of the ratiios. Normally lip size does not correlates with masculinity or whatso ever. Having thin lips just makes you look like you have a genetic disorder. Also development is also genetic where did I mention mewing you rrtarded moron

 

[Xangsane]

You faggot I literally said the same thing Masc man seem to have smaller lips just cuz of the ratiios. Normally lip size does not correlates with masculinity or whatso ever. Having thin lips just makes you look like you have a genetic disorder. Also development is also genetic where did I mention mewing you rrtarded moron

Lip fullness is an ethnic trait

 

[AscensionMan98]

This is already water. Girls chugs birth control by the handful until they're 30 and ready to settle down. That's when they want a tall masculine guy with a beard and muscles. Until then, prettyboys rule.

Masthethic rules. Think zyzz or Jeff said. Basically roided pretty boys that develop hyper masculine faces but cause they had pretty boy face before it works out well.

Also I think pretty boy only appeals to maybe jb and works if your white. For non whites they need frame , otherwise not taken seriously.