Question for Gymcels

[Renophobeadoobe]

Can a nigga get an explanation

I've been lifting for a month now.

Last week I was doing 30LB on the lateral raise machine and today a nigga was doing 85

This goes for all my lifts, it's progressing TOO quick

I'm like 130 5'10 too

Is this just genetics, or what happens for beginners?

 

[Renophobeadoobe]

Not even to stroke my dick or anything genuinely curious my form is good too

 

[Canthus]

TLDR

 

[Renophobeadoobe]

TLDR

lifts going up too quick as a noob, is this normal

 

[chudcel64]

You progress very quick at start so yeah thats expected

 

[Aloof]

DNR TL

 

[brootaldude]

Can a nigga get an explanation

I've been lifting for a month now.

Last week I was doing 30LB on the lateral raise machine and today a nigga was doing 85

This goes for all my lifts, it's progressing TOO quick

I'm like 130 5'10 too

Is this just genetics, or what happens for beginners?

yeah it’s normal. just remember to progressive overload so you don’t hit a plateau. not saying it’ll fully prevent it but might help

 

[inceliusndius]

Can a nigga get an explanation

I've been lifting for a month now.

Last week I was doing 30LB on the lateral raise machine and today a nigga was doing 85

This goes for all my lifts, it's progressing TOO quick

I'm like 130 5'10 too

Is this just genetics, or what happens for beginners?

Tldr
Your brain adapts and forms mind muscle connection even if no more muscular tissue js being added

 

[Finalkiosk]

Can a nigga get an explanation

I've been lifting for a month now.

Last week I was doing 30LB on the lateral raise machine and today a nigga was doing 85

This goes for all my lifts, it's progressing TOO quick

I'm like 130 5'10 too

Is this just genetics, or what happens for beginners?

its called neuromuscular adaptation

it just shows you never put your body in any sort of physical stress your whole life

so it was limited to using 10% of your muscle fibers, but now its gone up to 20% alongside a tiny bit of real strength gains (2.5-5lbs maybe)

 

[dragomog]

how quickly? but yes its normal

 

[Renophobeadoobe]

You progress very quick at start so yeah thats expected

yeah it’s normal. just remember to progressive overload so you don’t hit a plateau. not saying it’ll fully prevent it but might help

Tldr
Your brain adapts and forms mind muscle connection even if no more muscular tissue js being added

Thank you niggas

good explanation it makes sense

 

[Renophobeadoobe]

its called neuromuscular adaptation

it just shows you never put your body in any sort of physical stress your whole life

so it was limited to using 10% of your muscle fibers, but now its gone up to 20% alongside a tiny bit of real strength gains (2.5-5lbs maybe)

Yeah you're right I've been doing jack shit but studymaxxing my entire life

good explanation thank you

 

[Renophobeadoobe]

how quickly? but yes its normal

very quick

i think i started doing forearm curls with 10 pound weights but now im doing the bar with 2x10 on each side

my dad is also strong as shit, so maybe a genetic factor in it too

 

[SoundnVision]

What's the issue

 

[Finalkiosk]

Yeah you're right I've been doing jack shit but studymaxxing my entire life

good explanation thank you

powerlifters use compounds like superdrol, halotestin, and tren, to achieve this exact feeling you got

except they're going from being able to use maybe 60% of their muscle fibers up to 70% with all these compounds
and because their strength ceiling is, lets say, 500lbs bench, a 10% increase in neuromuscular efficiency could give them 50lbs easily, which is seen pretty often


first time i introduced 10mg 5x/wk sdrol my bench went from 305x3 to 365x 5 in 4 weeks

 

[Renophobeadoobe]

What's the issue

not an issue just confused how it was possible, cuz my friend has been stuck at the same weight for a while

 

[dragomog]

powerlifters use compounds like superdrol, halotestin, and tren, to achieve this exact feeling you got

except they're going from being able to use maybe 60% of their muscle fibers up to 70% with all these compounds
and because their strength ceiling is, lets say, 500lbs bench, a 10% increase in neuromuscular efficiency could give them 50lbs easily, which is seen pretty often


first time i introduced 10mg 5x/wk sdrol my bench went from 305x3 to 365x 5 in 4 weeks

do the gains from superdrol stay?

 

[Renophobeadoobe]

powerlifters use compounds like superdrol, halotestin, and tren, to achieve this exact feeling you got

except they're going from being able to use maybe 60% of their muscle fibers up to 70% with all these compounds
and because their strength ceiling is, lets say, 500lbs bench, a 10% increase in neuromuscular efficiency could give them 50lbs easily, which is seen pretty often


first time i introduced 10mg 5x/wk sdrol my bench went from 305x3 to 365x 5 in 4 weeks

holy shit bruh im still learning so this is really good to know

should i be concerned about injuries with this?

im also eating like 3k+ calories a day when before id prolly eat 1200, so im sure thats contributing a lot

 

[Finalkiosk]

do the gains from superdrol stay?

they stick ALOT better than my old anadrol cycles

anadrol bloats the fuck out of me and i cant tell whats real muscle and whats just glycogen

sdrol doesnt do that shit at all, i always bulked on sdrol cause i also find i cant really get fat when im taking sdrol, weird but i always end up looking alot leaner at the end of the cycle regardless of how much i eat

that one cycle i switched from sdrol to test + tren microdose and maintained strength pretty good but i ended up starting a cut like a few months ago so im down to 335x 5 right now

but yes i would say you could keep atleast 85% of the strength gains made on sdrol with just a test base

i think i couldve maintained 350x5 worst case if i went to just test, but thats still +45lbs +2 reps, not as good as +60 +2 but i wouldve taken it

 

[dragomog]

they stick ALOT better than my old anadrol cycles

anadrol bloats the fuck out of me and i cant tell whats real muscle and whats just glycogen

sdrol doesnt do that shit at all, i always bulked on sdrol cause i also find i cant really get fat when im taking sdrol, weird but i always end up looking alot leaner at the end of the cycle regardless of how much i eat

that one cycle i switched from sdrol to test + tren microdose and maintained strength pretty good but i ended up starting a cut like a few months ago so im down to 335x 5 right now

but yes i would say you could keep atleast 85% of the strength gains made on sdrol with just a test base

i think i couldve maintained 350x5 worst case if i went to just test, but thats still +45lbs +2 reps, not as good as +60 +2 but i wouldve taken it

i think its the best oral as far as i've seen

 

[Finalkiosk]

holy shit bruh im still learning so this is really good to know

should i be concerned about injuries with this?

im also eating like 3k+ calories a day when before id prolly eat 1200, so im sure thats contributing a lot

nah you wont get injured

if you dont take steroids or anything that makes you strong asf really quick then you wont injure yourself

if you started test tren and superdrol your strength would progress 3x faster than it already is, and your tendons wouldnt be able to keep up

if you ever plan on taking any steroids, make sure you've been training heavy and eating a shit load for atleast 2 years before starting, thats usually enough time to build some permenant tendon strength to guarantee you wont get injured

 

[Finalkiosk]

i think its the best oral as far as i've seen

i agree, i wouldnt take it more than 4-5x a week tho, and id keep it at 10mg max and no more than 4 weeks

anavar has a special place in my heart too tho, a cute little 50mg tab, for 4 weeks and im in heaven

i kinda want to mix 25mg anavar with 10mg sdrol but im not sure if thats the best idea for my liver

crazy how cheap sdrol is too, 100x10mg tabs for like $23,
3x 4week long cycles of fucking sdrol for the same price as a shawarma and dessert

 

[dragomog]

i agree, i wouldnt take it more than 4-5x a week tho, and id keep it at 10mg max and no more than 4 weeks

anavar has a special place in my heart too tho, a cute little 50mg tab, for 4 weeks and im in heaven

i kinda want to mix 25mg anavar with 10mg sdrol but im not sure if thats the best idea for my liver

crazy how cheap sdrol is too, 100x10mg tabs for like $23,
3x 4week long cycles of fucking sdrol for the same price as a shawarma and dessert

how risky would it be to do it without bloodwork? probably not rn on my first blast but on 2nd?

 

[Finalkiosk]

how risky would it be to do it without bloodwork? probably not rn on my first blast but on 2nd?

i mean, your liver is gonna take a hit for sure

if you dont wanna do bloodwork you gotta make sure you taking all the liver support supplements
those are gonna cost like 10x more than the actual superdrol

i dont think its any better or worse to do a compound earlier or later in your cycling "career"

in the end your going to be on test, and occasionally using 1 or 2 compounds you really like, some type of healthy rotation, for me those happen to be test, tren, sdrol and anavar, i try not to use more than test + one of them at once tho

if your doing sdrol by your second cycle you would probably end up having your dream physique anyway so you probably wouldnt even care to take sdrol anymore after unless you really let go of yourself and stopped pinning test


second cycle should be fine, just take all the liver support supps, and try to limit sdrol to 5x a week, give the liver 2 days worth of a break back to back

 

[dragomog]

i mean, your liver is gonna take a hit for sure

if you dont wanna do bloodwork you gotta make sure you taking all the liver support supplements
those are gonna cost like 10x more than the actual superdrol

i dont think its any better or worse to do a compound earlier or later in your cycling "career"

in the end your going to be on test, and occasionally using 1 or 2 compounds you really like, some type of healthy rotation, for me those happen to be test, tren, sdrol and anavar, i try not to use more than test + one of them at once tho

if your doing sdrol by your second cycle you would probably end up having your dream physique anyway so you probably wouldnt even care to take sdrol anymore after unless you really let go of yourself and stopped pinning test


second cycle should be fine, just take all the liver support supps, and try to limit sdrol to 5x a week, give the liver 2 days worth of a break back to back

im not rlly worried about liver but for sdrol i would take supps for it
more worried about the cardiovascular risks as thats more relevant to me

 

[Finalkiosk]

im not rlly worried about liver but for sdrol i would take supps for it
more worried about the cardiovascular risks as thats more relevant to me

i have a habit of doing 30min fasted cardio in the morning upon waking, stole it from vigorous steve

i never experienced any cardiovascular issues on sdrol or any compound, besides 200mg+ tren making me easily winded

just make sure your not lazy and sitting home all day, try to hit your 15k steps or do post workout walking on the treadmill for like 30-45min

if you havent tried anavar first i would recommend it before sdrol, 50mg anavar if your okay with bad lipids, but both give bad lipids anyway so maybe supplement some cardarine or fasted cardio to reduce hepatic lipase activity

50mg anavar would probably give like 50-60% of the strength gains of 10mg sdrol in 4 weeks.

ezetimibe, cardarine, and fasted cardio should be enough for your cardiovascular health

 

[accinr]

Can a nigga get an explanation

I've been lifting for a month now.

Last week I was doing 30LB on the lateral raise machine and today a nigga was doing 85

This goes for all my lifts, it's progressing TOO quick

I'm like 130 5'10 too

Is this just genetics, or what happens for beginners?

noobie strength gains

 

[dragomog]

i have a habit of doing 30min fasted cardio in the morning upon waking, stole it from vigorous steve

i never experienced any cardiovascular issues on sdrol or any compound, besides 200mg+ tren making me easily winded

just make sure your not lazy and sitting home all day, try to hit your 15k steps or do post workout walking on the treadmill for like 30-45min

if you havent tried anavar first i would recommend it before sdrol, 50mg anavar if your okay with bad lipids, but both give bad lipids anyway so maybe supplement some cardarine or fasted cardio to reduce hepatic lipase activity

50mg anavar would probably give like 50-60% of the strength gains of 10mg sdrol in 4 weeks.

ezetimibe, cardarine, and fasted cardio should be enough for your cardiovascular health

well im on a dirty bulk, steps just checked around 5k daily, no cardio yet but imma start to

i would do var but im on a bulk is it even worth it?

also i do 500mg caffeine daily is this a big factor on cycle?

 

[Finalkiosk]

well im on a dirty bulk, steps just checked around 5k daily, no cardio yet but imma start to

i would do var but im on a bulk is it even worth it?

also i do 500mg caffeine daily is this a big factor on cycle?

on a bulk i would do sdrol, it amplifies the bulk by a fuck ton

maintenance or cutting on var is another ball game tho, you get stronger harder and leaner, all that for the only side effect being shitty lipids

you could do sdrol twice a week on your weakest bodypart days to try to bring them up, it would have negligible liver and cardiovascular strain cause the damage is often exponential due to your body not having some time to rest, i could even see once a week sdrol for 12 weeks with no noticeable negatives

def add in the cardio tho, either 15min walking post meals or 30-45min fasted in the morning

caffeine is chill

 

[dragomog]

on a bulk i would do sdrol, it amplifies the bulk by a fuck ton

maintenance or cutting on var is another ball game tho, you get stronger harder and leaner, all that for the only side effect being shitty lipids

you could do sdrol twice a week on your weakest bodypart days to try to bring them up, it would have negligible liver and cardiovascular strain cause the damage is often exponential due to your body not having some time to rest, i could even see once a week sdrol for 12 weeks with no noticeable negatives

def add in the cardio tho, either 15min walking post meals or 30-45min fasted in the morning

caffeine is chill

it hits in that fast? like first day on it i would notice strenght? 2 times per week would be pretty good on the first push and then last pull day of the week for example

 

[Finalkiosk]

it hits in that fast? like first day on it i would notice strenght? 2 times per week would be pretty good on the first push and then last pull day of the week for example

it hits in like 2 hrs, first time i took it was in the morning before uni classes, i hit the gym at lunchtime like 4 hrs later and i gained 2 reps on my previous 2 rep max, went from 305x2 to 305x4, i was wondering if i could hit 315 so i loaded it up and smashed it and it felt like less than my old 305 attempts

2 times a week on your fav or least fav training days will 100% help, once you try it your gonna get addicted and look forward to those training days alot

push/bench day on sdrol is something else, same with heavy rows on back day

 

[dragomog]

it hits in like 2 hrs, first time i took it was in the morning before uni classes, i hit the gym at lunchtime like 4 hrs later and i gained 2 reps on my previous 2 rep max, went from 305x2 to 305x4, i was wondering if i could hit 315 so i loaded it up and smashed it and it felt like less than my old 305 attempts

2 times a week on your fav or least fav training days will 100% help, once you try it your gonna get addicted and look forward to those training days alot

push/bench day on sdrol is something else, same with heavy rows on back day

last thing is age a problem for this? i'd think not much considering im already doing 500 test at 15 but some mfs told me to wait til 16 to do more stuff

 

[Finalkiosk]

last thing is age a problem for this? i'd think not much considering im already doing 500 test at 15 but some mfs told me to wait til 16 to do more stuff

holy, nigga is 15 doing 500mg test, i mean your locked tf in but,

you could milk 500 test for 5 years and get to 405 bench and the physique of your dreams, but if you wanna get there quicker sdrol would help

if i were you i would wait a bit before sdrol and other shit, 500 test is gonna carry you very far for a long time, if your really desperate you could add in the sdrol but honestly stick to the test with maybe some var when your cutting

once you dial in your cardio, bodyfat (start sdrol at a lowish bf) and supplement stack, then id say you could start sdrol

if you really want to start it now, keep it to once a week at 10mg max, dont take any more, even if you receive a 100 tablet pack your gonna have to have some self control

 

[dragomog]

holy, nigga is 15 doing 500mg test, i mean your locked tf in but,

you could milk 500 test for 5 years and get to 405 bench and the physique of your dreams, but if you wanna get there quicker sdrol would help

if i were you i would wait a bit before sdrol and other shit, 500 test is gonna carry you very far for a long time, if your really desperate you could add in the sdrol but honestly stick to the test with maybe some var when your cutting

once you dial in your cardio, bodyfat (start sdrol at a lowish bf) and supplement stack, then id say you could start sdrol

if you really want to start it now, keep it to once a week at 10mg max, dont take any more, even if you receive a 100 tablet pack your gonna have to have some self control

imma see what imma do but maybe will do the sdrol sometime tbh like the 2 days u mentioned
thing is yeah would do 500 for years but still i wanna come off sometime if i can tho more i get into this more i start accepting possibility of test for life
imma first fix my bp and cardio rn before doing orals tho

 

[Finalkiosk]

imma see what imma do but maybe will do the sdrol sometime tbh like the 2 days u mentioned
thing is yeah would do 500 for years but still i wanna come off sometime if i can tho more i get into this more i start accepting possibility of test for life
imma first fix my bp and cardio rn before doing orals tho

togi talked about how 20 days of roids can transform you

pretty sure this was his sdrol + other shit cycle, he loves sdrol

 

[just a chud]

Can a nigga get an explanation

I've been lifting for a month now.

Last week I was doing 30LB on the lateral raise machine and today a nigga was doing 85

This goes for all my lifts, it's progressing TOO quick

I'm like 130 5'10 too

Is this just genetics, or what happens for beginners?

normal asf progress slows after 2-3 months

 

[dragomog]

togi talked about how 20 days of roids can transform you

pretty sure this was his sdrol + other shit cycle, he loves sdrol

i dont think u said much abt physique change from it how big and fast is that? rn im on 500 test and its slower but steady improvement after 7 weeks on

 

[anphamer]

Can a nigga get an explanation

I've been lifting for a month now.

Last week I was doing 30LB on the lateral raise machine and today a nigga was doing 85

This goes for all my lifts, it's progressing TOO quick

I'm like 130 5'10 too

Is this just genetics, or what happens for beginners?

You weren’t doing jackshit before. Now you’ve been lifting, so obviously anything above 0 (not training) is going to get you progress, even with the most dipshit exercises. Assuming you have somewhat proper form and a good split, means that it’s going to get you even more so.

 

[Finalkiosk]

i dont think u said much abt physique change from it how big and fast is that? rn im on 500 test and its slower but steady improvement after 7 weeks on

you get bigger and leaner without anadrol bloat, anadrol fucks my bp wayy more than sdrol

i was mostly focused on strength when i was running it but i would say i gained atleast 3kg of pure muscle, even tho the scale went up 7kg.

i was eating 2lbs of ground beef and a fuck load of calories tho, and i wasent able to get fat.
my lowest days were 4.5k cal, highest would easily reach 6k

you look like you did a 16 week cycle in only 4 weeks

 

[dragomog]

you get bigger and leaner without anadrol bloat, anadrol fucks my bp wayy more than sdrol

i was mostly focused on strength when i was running it but i would say i gained atleast 3kg of pure muscle, even tho the scale went up 7kg.

i was eating 2lbs of ground beef and a fuck load of calories tho, and i wasent able to get fat.
my lowest days were 4.5k cal, highest would easily reach 6k

you look like you did a 16 week cycle in only 4 weeks

i mean just the strenght from sdrol is what really turns me towards wanting to take it ngl but the added physique benefit is good too
tho i asumme if i did it on 2 training days it wouldnt be significant?

 

[Finalkiosk]

i mean just the strenght from sdrol is what really turns me towards wanting to take it ngl but the added physique benefit is good too
tho i asumme if i did it on 2 training days it wouldnt be significant?

it would be significant in the body parts you trained those days

you have 500mg test in the background always promoting anabolism, the change from 20mg sdrol a week to 50mg sdrol a week would be like putting the test to 750/wk roughly

its more about increasing training capacity to the point where your complimenting the 500mg test by giving it a reason to grow your muscles


i could run 10mg7x/wk var alongside 350 test and make a fuck load more gains just because of how much better my training gets because of the var.

the 70mg var weekly isnt really building much muscle, its making my training 2-3x better even when im on a cut

sdrol kinda does the same but it def builds muscle atleast 10x better than anavar at 10mg

 

[dragomog]

it would be significant in the body parts you trained those days

you have 500mg test in the background always promoting anabolism, the change from 20mg sdrol a week to 50mg sdrol a week would be like putting the test to 750/wk roughly

its more about increasing training capacity to the point where your complimenting the 500mg test by giving it a reason to grow your muscles


i could run 10mg7x/wk var alongside 350 test and make a fuck load more gains just because of how much better my training gets because of the var.

the 70mg var weekly isnt really building much muscle, its making my training 2-3x better even when im on a cut

sdrol kinda does the same but it def builds muscle atleast 10x better than anavar at 10mg

i could use it to bring up my triceps hard and at same day would be bench i imagine it would be cool af

triceps are kind of a weakpoint for me as i literally skullcrusher less then i preacher curl

what abt the people saying orals are trash tho?

 

[Finalkiosk]

i could use it to bring up my triceps hard and at same day would be bench i imagine it would be cool af

triceps are kind of a weakpoint for me as i literally skullcrusher less then i preacher curl

what abt the people saying orals are trash tho?

orals used as anabolic steroids are ass

long acting injectables in the background are always better for building muscle

i would only use orals to build muscle through increasing training capacity
if you can guarantee a 8.5/10 session every single day for 365 days, instead of a 6/10, then a 8/10, then a 7/10, then a 4/10.

your going to make more gains with the guaranteed 8.5/10 session worst case, than randomized sessions.

use injectables as background anabolics that promote anabolism 24/7, use orals as training aids to get more out of your training, which then gets more out of your injectables

for example, if i had 420mg of steroids to work with every week, i wouldnt do 420mg test, i would do 350mg test + 70mg var, even tho i would have less background anabolism from the test, i can guarantee each session is going to be good asf

i would take this as far as adding in a low dose oral before even adding primo, mast, eq, npp, or tren to a cycle

 

[dragomog]

orals used as anabolic steroids are ass

long acting injectables in the background are always better for building muscle

i would only use orals to build muscle through increasing training capacity
if you can guarantee a 8.5/10 session every single day for 365 days, instead of a 6/10, then a 8/10, then a 7/10, then a 4/10.

your going to make more gains with the guaranteed 8.5/10 session worst case, than randomized sessions.

use injectables as background anabolics that promote anabolism 24/7, use orals as training aids to get more out of your training, which then gets more out of your injectables

for example, if i had 420mg of steroids to work with every week, i wouldnt do 420mg test, i would do 350mg test + 70mg var, even tho i would have less background anabolism from the test, i can guarantee each session is going to be good asf

i would take this as far as adding in a low dose oral before even adding primo, mast, eq, npp, or tren to a cycle

i was thinking of doing something like eq or even tren for 2nd cycle but yeah prolly gonna try var when im cutting or some sdrol when on a lighter bulk

 

[Finalkiosk]

i was thinking of doing something like eq or even tren for 2nd cycle but yeah prolly gonna try var when im cutting or some sdrol when on a lighter bulk

eq is getting really popular again

unless you plan to do your cardio and stay hydrated i would stay away from eq.

i would go as far as saying microdose tren is healthier for you than a standard dose eq, and your going to look better and make a fuck load of strength gains

10mg tren e 3x a week, total of 30mg, m/w/f that shit is going to make you strong asf in 4 weeks.

or you could take 10x the steroids and do 300mg eq, wait for it to hit stable serum then get some vascularity and decent gains

micro dose tren, preworkout var, + atleast 350 test and your in heaven

 

[dragomog]

eq is getting really popular again

unless you plan to do your cardio and stay hydrated i would stay away from eq.

i would go as far as saying microdose tren is healthier for you than a standard dose eq, and your going to look better and make a fuck load of strength gains

10mg tren e 3x a week, total of 30mg, m/w/f that shit is going to make you strong asf in 4 weeks.

or you could take 10x the steroids and do 300mg eq, wait for it to hit stable serum then get some vascularity and decent gains

micro dose tren, preworkout var, + atleast 350 test and your in heaven

aight W bro thanks gonna bookmark this for when i need it

 

[Renophobeadoobe]

You weren’t doing jackshit before. Now you’ve been lifting, so obviously anything above 0 (not training) is going to get you progress, even with the most dipshit exercises. Assuming you have somewhat proper form and a good split, means that it’s going to get you even more so.

Yeah makes sense it's just surprising cuz I'm doing same weight as my friend who's been training WAY longer

i said earlier but my dad is naturally strong ash like genuine mutant, i think that may play a minor role

 

[anphamer]

Yeah makes sense it's just surprising cuz I'm doing same weight as my friend who's been training WAY longer

i said earlier but my dad is naturally strong ash like genuine mutant, i think that may play a minor role

Height, bf may be some other factors aside from genetics

 

[OrbitMax]

Can a nigga get an explanation

I've been lifting for a month now.

Last week I was doing 30LB on the lateral raise machine and today a nigga was doing 85

This goes for all my lifts, it's progressing TOO quick

I'm like 130 5'10 too

Is this just genetics, or what happens for beginners?

If you weren’t really active before suddenly lifting causes “newbie” gains but 85 on lateral raises is crazy either ur just ego lifting with terrible form or your a genetic miracle