[QUESTION FOR MUSLIMS] Do you like to "sleep around" with lots of non-Muslim women, and expect to marry a virgin Muslim woman?

[Xangsane]

I had a discussion with @Br0sk1 and both of us discovered that Muslims in the West on this forum have a strong preference to sleep around with loads of non-Muslim (particularly white and to a lesser degree, Latina and east Asian) women before deciding to settle down with a virgin Muslim woman once they've finished fucking about.

For example, I also had a discussion with @CupOfCoffee who is Shia Muslim, which confirms my observations (he admitted he does not want to get married any time soon and wants to continue having sex with strings of white and Latina women, even when I told him that his actions of wanting a HQNP Lebanese virgin woman and doing what he's doing now is strongly hypocritical and exploitational of both sides - western women used for sex and Arab women used for naivety/innocence while he gets away with a highly haram dating record with zero remorse and guilt). Talking to him in DMs and giving him some advice to help him was honestly like talking to a brick wall.

Even my Muslim friends (who I love because they care about me) do this same tactic; they sleep around with non-Muslim women (mostly white women and some Christian Black women, if they're African lads) while expecting to marry a virgin brown Muslim woman.

I think this behaviour is not only exploitative on Western women (for sex) and Muslim women (for innocence/naivety), but also the Muslim men who partake in this culture won't get what they want as soon as these Muslim women (and her family) find out that he's been fucking about with non-Muslim women. Words get about in the Muslim community if you've slept about, and since these women are in the top 5% when it comes to sexual behaviour, they (especially HQNP Muslim virgin women, especially if they're from Arab states) will not want to accept the Muslim man (who has been sleeping about with western women) into her family. She will simply find another person, sending the man on a one-way journey to the abyss of the downwards spiral.

I am a western-raised Chaddamlite who wants a HQNP ethnic woman with a very low body count (or virgin) as long as she is happy to convert and practice Islam with me and my future children. I am aware I can get girls based on looks alone (and admitted I slipped up with that "Muslim" half-Indian ex-gf I really wanted an LTR with - I thought she had potential but she was a manipulative, scheming dickhead who showed her true colours after we were official, oh well I still have a lay count of 1 and not 50) but I'm volcel and I prefer to work on myself, because I strongly find this behaviour I discussed above hypocritical (the future brown virgin wife will feel like an option and not her true love) and selfish (having your cake and eating it). Casual sex with random women is not on my cards and will never be.

So, Muslimcels. Do you like to fuck around with lots of non-Muslim women, but expect to marry a virgin Muslim woman?

 

[hebbewem]

Dn rd if they sleep around then they arent real muslims

 

[ItsOVERBuddyBoyos]

No one gives a shit if a guy is a virgin or not.

They only care that you have money, good face , tall and come from a good family.


Sleeping around with tinder sluts when younger and the once you're older and settled in your career, settling down with a girl who's not a whore is basic strategy 101.

 

[linkcel]

>muslims slaying anything in the west
mein boyo put down that copium ASAP, cope overload imminent

 

[Xangsane]

No one gives a shit if a guy is a virgin or not.

They only care that you have money, good face , tall and come from a good family.


Sleeping around with tinder sluts when younger and the once you're older and settled in your career, settling down with a girl who's not a whore is basic strategy 101.

It's mostly moral implications. I know I'd feel insanely guilty if I even slept with 3-5 girls before settling down, because I know the HQNP Muslim woman doesn't deserve me. I want a woman like this (or an ethnic HQNP woman willing to convert to Islam); to not feel guilty and to make her feel special, I don't fuck around.

 

[ItsOVERBuddyBoyos]

It's mostly moral implications. I know I'd feel insanely guilty if I even slept with 3-5 girls before settling down, because I know the HQNP Muslim woman doesn't deserve me. I want a woman like this (or an ethnic HQNP woman willing to convert to Islam); to not feel guilty and to make her feel special, I don't fuck around.

I've straight up told religious girls I used to sleep around

They don't care as long as you won't cheat on them during the marriage.

Even 5 times a day hijabis will accept a guy who only prays on fridays if they like him.

 

[Xangsane]

I've straight up told religious girls I used to sleep around

They don't care as long as you won't cheat on them during the marriage.

Even 5 times a day hijabis will accept a guy who only prays on fridays if they like him.

There's still a feeling of guilt I'd have to carry about.
In a hypothetical scenario, I'd tell the religious girl I didn't sleep around, but I had a relationship with a half-Indian girl from a Muslim background that didn't work out.

 

[Xangsane]

>muslims slaying anything in the west
mein boyo put down that copium ASAP, cope overload imminent

While I strongly don't condone their actions, my Muslim friends (brown and black) have slept about a lot with non-Muslim black and white women.

 

[ItsOVERBuddyBoyos]

There's still a feeling of guilt I'd have to carry about.
In a hypothetical scenario, I'd tell the religious girl I didn't sleep around, but I had a relationship with a half-Indian girl from a Muslim background that didn't work out.

Do you think that a woman is going to be fully truthful to you in life?
Or that she would even feel guilty about lying to you for her benefit?

 

[Xangsane]

Do you think that a woman is going to be fully truthful to you in life?
Or that she would even feel guilty about lying to you for her benefit?

Oh, I know all the ways to get the truth out of her. All I have to do is observe her behaviour/actions towards me and the way she treats others, then question her about them.

 

[Xangsane]

Dn rd if they sleep around then they arent real muslims

There is a "new wave" of Muslim women who sleep around an awful lot when they're at university.

 

[ascension]

In my area in London, muslim guys mainly go for Hindu and Sikh girls, fucking around with them (and in a lot of cases abusing them too), and then after that they want to get married to virgin hijabi muslim girl.

 

[Xangsane]

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[St.TikTokcel]

While I strongly don't condone their actions, my Muslim friends (brown and black) have slept about a lot with non-Muslim black and white women.

Just like your cuck father that settled for a coalburner.

 

[Xangsane]

In my area in London, muslim guys mainly go for Hindu and Sikh girls, fucking around with them (and in a lot of cases abusing them too), and then after that they want to get married to virgin hijabi muslim girl.

Are these Black Muslims? I've heard that Indian women are popular among Black men.
Oh dear, I hope karma gets back to them because of them abusing the girls they went with. Abuse (towards anyone) is a strong no-no and needs to be punished.

 

[Xangsane]

@PrinceLuenLeoncur thoughts?

 

[AlexAP]

No one gives a shit if a guy is a virgin or not.

They only care that you have money, good face , tall and come from a good family.


Sleeping around with tinder sluts when younger and the once you're older and settled in your career, settling down with a girl who's not a whore is basic strategy 101.

Women do care if a guy slept around or not. Being virgin isn't important for men, but most women don't want a man with a very high bodycount because they think he will cheat or they are insecure because the guy has a lot of other women to compare her with.

 

[Deleted member 14160]

I have one Muslim girl who seems quite tame I might ltr later on. Otherwise it’s just easier to get with white or other bitches less stigma for em to hookup

 

[Xangsane]

Women do care if a guy slept around or not. Being virgin isn't important for men, but most women don't want a man with a very high bodycount because they think he will cheat or they are insecure because the guy has a lot of other women to compare her with.

And that's why I won't sleep about with random women. I want my future wife to feel special, like she's wanted, and that I only have eyes for her.

 

[Deleted member 14160]

Women do care if a guy slept around or not. Being virgin isn't important for men, but most women don't want a man with a very high bodycount because they think he will cheat or they are insecure because the guy has a lot of other women to compare her with.

True tbh. Fuckboy perception is a failo

 

[ascension]

Are these Black Muslims? I've heard that Indian women are popular among Black men.
Oh dear, I hope karma gets back to them because of them abusing the girls they went with. Abuse (towards anyone) is a strong no-no and needs to be punished.

Nah they're pakistani/afghan/arab muslims

Literally every hindu/sikh girl in East london has a story of being abused in a relationship by their muslim boyfriend.

There aren't many Black muslims in my area

 

[Xangsane]

True tbh. Fuckboy perception is a failo

And that's why I won't sleep about with random women. I want my future wife to feel special, like she's wanted, and that I only have eyes for her.

 

[Xangsane]

I have one Muslim girl who seems quite tame I might ltr later on. Otherwise it’s just easier to get with white or other bitches less stigma for em to hookup

If you don't mind, is your laycount in the double digits, and does it mostly consist of non-Muslim women?

 

[Deleted member 14160]

If you don't mind, is your laycount in the double digits, and does it mostly consist of non-Muslim women?

It’s like 12 looool
Ethnics were Like 2 Lebanese girls and 2 Punjabi cuz I have social circles amongst those ethnicities

 

[Deleted member 18522]

I sleep tbh may Allah forgive and guide me

 

[Zer0/∞]

I want a harem of East Asian noodlestacies.

 

[Xangsane]

Nah they're pakistani/afghan/arab muslims

Literally every hindu/sikh girl in East london has a story of being abused in a relationship by their muslim boyfriend.

There aren't many Black muslims in my area

Hindu women, I've heard, absolutely love Pakistani/Arab/Afghans for some reason (I think it's colourism and the guys' perceived proximity to the girls' culture).

I hope karma gets back at their previous boyfriends, because I have zero-tolerance for abuse (either towards me or others). At least my Muslim friends who sleep about with random girls aren't bad lads who abuse girls at all, but I wouldn't be following their footsteps. Everyone deserves to be treated with respect and care.

Tell me, what did these guys used to do to their girlfriends?

 

[Deleted member 8365]

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curlyheadjames too

 

[Xangsane]

I want a harem of East Asian noodlestacies.

And would you marry one or not?

 

[Zer0/∞]

And would you marry one or not?

I would marry them all.

 

[Xangsane]

I sleep tbh may Allah forgive and guide me

What's your end goal?

 

[Xangsane]

It’s like 12 looool
Ethnics were Like 2 Lebanese girls and 2 Punjabi cuz I have social circles amongst those ethnicities

Were these Lebanese/Punjabis Muslims or not?

 

[Xangsane]

@FailedNormieManlet Atheist?

 

[ascension]

Hindu women, I've heard, absolutely love Pakistani/Arab/Afghans for some reason (I think it's colourism and the guys' perceived proximity to the girls' culture).

You're right

I hope karma gets back at their previous boyfriends, because I have zero-tolerance for abuse (either towards me or others). At least my Muslim friends who sleep about with random girls aren't bad lads who abuse girls at all, but I wouldn't be following their footsteps. Everyone deserves to be treated with respect and care.

Tell me, what did these guys used to do to their girlfriends?

Just the usual verbal abuse, insults, forcing the girls to wear certain clothing, sometimes physical abuse too

They can get away with it because most hindu/sikh parents don't like muslims (due to historical incidents), and therfore these girls don't tell their parents that theyre dating a muslim. Therefore the muslim guys always get away with it.

These same girls are the ones who ignore good hindu/sikh boys though, so I don't have much sympathy for them. Would anyone have any sympathy for me, if I saw something on fire, and deliberately stuck my hand in it and got burnt? No, they'd call me an idiot. Same thing applies here, these girls should listen to their parents and date boys in their own religious group.

 

[FailedNormieManlet]

@FailedNormieManlet Atheist?

Yup

 

[Deleted member 18522]

What's your end goal?

A hqnp hot religious wife that fixes me from being a hoe

 

[Xangsane]

You're right



Just the usual verbal abuse, insults, forcing the girls to wear certain clothing, sometimes physical abuse too

They can get away with it because most hindu/sikh parents don't like muslims (due to historical incidents), and therfore these girls don't tell their parents that theyre dating a muslim. Therefore the muslim guys always get away with it.

These same girls are the ones who ignore good hindu/sikh boys though, so I don't have much sympathy for them. Would anyone have any sympathy for me, if I saw something on fire, and deliberately stuck my hand in it and got burnt? No, they'd call me an idiot. Same thing applies here, these girls should listen to their parents and date boys in their own religious group.

This reminds me of that time when a Hindu girl (a university student) dating an Arab Muslim lad was brutally murdered by him recently.

That's true that Hindus and Muslims don't get along at all, but they'd think they're more likely to commit to them than a white man (while not wanting darker Hindus), so they hang onto these men. It's sad to see that they're stooping to colourist thoughts and letting lighter-skinned people take advantage of them unfairly.

They need to embrace their own skin and own their identity. But no matter if they've been abused by their partners, I wouldn't wish them bad and I hope a good guy comes to pick them up after they have rebuilt themselves.

 

[Racky]

@Xangsane you a good man. I respect you for standing on principles

 

[sytyl]

if I don't marry my current gf who was a virgin anyway then yeah, marrying non virgin = just jfl at your dignity

I've had this convo with many muslim friends more religious than me - all of them are fine with marrying a non virgin (these are 5x praying types too btw, muh wimen can make mistakes )

 

[Xangsane]

A hqnp hot religious wife that fixes me from being a hoe

Do you think you'll be okay with her family not judging you?

 

[ascension]

This reminds me of that time when a Hindu girl (a university student) dating an Arab Muslim lad was brutally murdered by him recently.

Wow, do you have an article or something for that? I'm curious (but not surprised)

That's true that Hindus and Muslims don't get along at all, but they'd think they're more likely to commit to them than a white man (while not wanting darker Hindus), so they hang onto these men. It's sad to see that they're stooping to colourist thoughts and letting lighter-skinned people take advantage of them unfairly.

They need to embrace their own skin and own their identity. But no matter if they've been abused by their partners, I wouldn't wish them bad and I hope a good guy comes to pick them up after they have rebuilt themselves.

I ain't picking up any of these girls

I had a sikh girl try and get with me like 2 years ago (wanted me to betabux), she'd been abused by her ex bf muslim.

She literally told me she lied to her parents for 3 years straight while going out with him, I was like, if you can easily lie like that to your parents (most important people in your life), then you wouldn't hesitate to lie to me too, right? She was like "no, i've changed, I've learnt" fucking bullshit lmao. I got rid of her, good riddance

 

[sytyl]

if I don't marry my current gf who was a virgin anyway then yeah, marrying non virgin = just jfl at your dignity

I've had this convo with many muslim friends more religious than me - all of them are fine with marrying a non virgin (these are 5x praying types too btw, muh wimen can make mistakes )

want to add I regret 99% of my ons, it's pointless, but don't regret relationships

 

[Xangsane]

@Xangsane you a good man. I respect you for standing on principles

Thank you. I did get judged harshly about my beliefs on this forum but there's nothing that can make me step away from them.

 

[Xangsane]

if I don't marry my current gf who was a virgin anyway then yeah, marrying non virgin = just jfl at your dignity

I've had this convo with many muslim friends more religious than me - all of them are fine with marrying a non virgin (these are 5x praying types too btw, muh wimen can make mistakes )

If you don't mind me asking, what ethnicity is your girlfriend? If she's white, I'm assuming she's either younger than you, or Eastern European.

Are they even okay with marrying a woman with a 20+ body count? That to me would feel insanely uncomfortable.

Wow, do you have an article or something for that? I'm curious (but not surprised)



I ain't picking up any of these girls

I had a sikh girl try and get with me like 2 years ago (wanted me to betabux), she'd been abused by her ex bf muslim.

She literally told me she lied to her parents for 3 years straight while going out with him, I was like, if you can easily lie like that to your parents (most important people in your life), then you wouldn't hesitate to lie to me too, right? She was like "no, i've changed, I've learnt" fucking bullshit lmao. I got rid of her, good riddance

Of course, it made national headlines:

Sabita Thanwani death: Maher Maaroufe, charged with murder of 19-year-old woman at student flats in central London, appears in court

Sabita Thanwani, 19, was found with serious injuries at the student block in the early hours of Saturday morning and died at the scene.

news.sky.com

(inb4 any mentions of Tyler Maher)

What religion are you by any chance?

I wouldn't LTR her (Sikhs or Hindus = dealbreaker) but I'd offer her some advice for her to self-improve from that rut she was dragged in, and I'd allow her to vent to me to understand her point of view while sympathising with her.

want to add I regret 99% of my ons, it's pointless, but don't regret relationships

If you don't mind, is your laycount already in the double digits?

 

[sytyl]

If you don't mind me asking, what ethnicity is your girlfriend? If she's white, I'm assuming she's either younger than you, or Eastern European.

Are they even okay with marrying a woman with a 20+ body count? That to me would feel insanely uncomfortable.

If you don't mind, is your laycount already in the double digits?

she's wh*toid yes, not ee, got lucky I think cuz there was a 2 year lockdown, otherwise I think she'd have just found someone through uni
~4.5 years younger

nah there's a limit, they think 1-2 is ok since girls can make mistakes and it helps them grow (to be fair, from a normal persons perspective this is a sound viewpoint but I guess I'm messed up)

just barely double digit (most of it was in a depressive phase when I moved out though tbh, kept doing it and wondered each time wow that's it? then got a gf and it was much better then broke up, back to depressive phase and now gf again for a year or so now)

 

[ascension]

Of course, it made national headlines:

Sabita Thanwani death: Maher Maaroufe, charged with murder of 19-year-old woman at student flats in central London, appears in court

Sabita Thanwani, 19, was found with serious injuries at the student block in the early hours of Saturday morning and died at the scene.

news.sky.com

(inb4 any mentions of Tyler Maher)

What religion are you by any chance?

I wouldn't LTR her (Sikhs or Hindus = dealbreaker) but I'd offer her some advice for her to self-improve from that rut she was dragged in, and I'd allow her to vent to me to understand her point of view while sympathising with her.


If you don't mind, is your laycount already in the double digits?

Thanks for the article

I'm Sikh.

 

[Xangsane]

Thanks for the article

I'm Sikh.

You're welcome. Tell me your thoughts on it.

 

[Xangsane]

she's wh*toid yes, not ee, got lucky I think cuz there was a 2 year lockdown, otherwise I think she'd have just found someone through uni
~4.5 years younger

nah there's a limit, they think 1-2 is ok since girls can make mistakes and it helps them grow (to be fair, from a normal persons perspective this is a sound viewpoint but I guess I'm messed up)

just barely double digit (most of it was in a depressive phase when I moved out though tbh, kept doing it and wondered each time wow that's it? then got a gf and it was much better then broke up, back to depressive phase and now gf again for a year or so now)

Are you practicing?

 

[sytyl]

Are you practicing?

I believe in my heart but have not prayed in years (I did full ramadan tho)
used to never miss a prayer etc. until I was ~20

 

[Xangsane]

I believe in my heart but have not prayed in years (I did full ramadan tho)
used to never miss a prayer etc. until I was ~20

Uni got to you?