Question for oldcels, at what age do women your own age start to indicate that you have value to them

[6ft4]

From watching 1stMan's vids it would seem as though 27 is the first age where a typical 27 y/o man starts to match the value of a typical 27 y/o woman in terms of relationship desirability from the opposite sex
I haven't associated with women the same age as me since college.
I would not be able to relate to a 27 year old woman because I have never actually had a reason to speak to one
If I was put in a scenario where I had to associate with women in their late 20s I don't think I'd be able to extend a convo because I'd just be thinking about how much different they are to college aged foids who have no desire to get a relationship and think they will live the party validation filled life forever
Are late 20s foids more forgiving of sub Chad looks and more concerned about your job title/income?
Even if my crypto portfoilio was worth €1m+ and I was making 10k from youtube per month I would not be able to convey this in a way where they would see me as someone with extreme potential, I would still come off as a bum. Women do not understand potential, they only understand your value based on bs job titles and the car you drive regardless of if you have money or are in debt

I imagine a lot of men who actually become successful around 30 and start having foids show interest in them for the first time in their life would just pump and dump as many 30 year olds as possible since they knew they wouldn't have given them the time of day a decade ago

 

[Thinking_Machine]

i’m not sure i fully understand the question but i think i’m roughly the same age as you (26) and spend a lot of time around women our age (social group and work colleagues)

but yes, older foids are more forgiving than uni foids now that they no longer have access to the uni chad pool. i consider myself a HTN and did decent at uni, but wouldn’t get a second look when at parties / clubs if the true chads were present (which would be like 1 in every 2 occasions). with a vastly reduced pool that limits how much the average girl can enact hypergamy, all of a sudden they see sub-chads as viable dicking/LTR partners.

moreover, most girls i know have descended HARD over the past 5 years since uni and lost a lot of appeal. girls who i would have happily fugged but got passed over because chad was present are now LITERALLY throwing themselves at me, and honestly, i just find them beneath me now. saying that, though, finding girls that have raw appeal is a bit harder as they no longer have youth on their side, BUT on the other hand LTRs are a actually a lot more rewarding as the girls now have much more to say/can hold interesting conversation, providing they’re not low class or never developed. my observations will be skewed though as my social circles currently comprise of scientists and athletes (so generally higher quality but lower raw appeal), and older friends that were uni party animals and have descended .

 

[6ft4]

i’m not sure i fully understand the question but i think i’m roughly the same age as you (26) and spend a lot of time around women our age (social group and work colleagues)

but yes, older foids are more forgiving than uni foids now that they no longer have access to the uni chad pool. i consider myself a HTN and did decent at uni, but wouldn’t get a second look when at parties / clubs if the true chads were present (which would be like 1 in every 2 occasions). with a vastly reduced pool that limits how much the average girl can enact hypergamy, all of a sudden they see sub-chads as viable dicking/LTR partners.

moreover, most girls i know have descended HARD over the past 5 years since uni and lost a lot of appeal. girls who i would have happily fugged but got passed over because chad was present are now LITERALLY throwing themselves at me, and honestly, i just find them beneath me now. saying that, though, finding girls that have raw appeal is a bit harder as they no longer have youth on their side, BUT on the other hand LTRs are a actually a lot more rewarding as the girls now have much more to say/can hold interesting conversation, providing they’re not low class or never developed. my observations will be skewed though as my social circles currently comprise of scientists and athletes (so generally higher quality but lower raw appeal), and older friends that were uni party animals and have descended .

Yes this is what I'm getting at with my thread
I am curious if girls I've known years ago would show interest in me now if our paths crossed but I have no reason to associate with anyone currently

I am also thinking that you never really win when it comes to college aged foids as subChad because they will never get humbled or have the lessons of the late 20s foids. The only way to change this would be attaining gigastatus and slowing down the aging process as much as you can then attempting to slay them with your gigastatus putting you on par with Chad's looks

Can you give examples of ways the girls were throwing themselves at you?

 

[ezio6]

30-35

 

[JBcollector]

so that what millions buy used up roasties pathetic money is useless

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

I actually think womens standards for looks continue to rise post uni until about 25 yo when they begin looking for more serious relationships

Atleast uni foids can be a bit naive and don’t have a decade of instagram simping and matching guys 2 PSL above them on dating apps