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When I am off-cycle I have no motivation to go to the gym. How bad is slacking during off-cycles? Its demotivating hopping off and seeing ur lifts plateau while you're working out 4 times a week. Also I am using nolvadex after cycle, but still. Cycle is test + anavar. Will working out twice a week off-cycle be "good enough" to where it is still worth it? Also I wont cruise.
 
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Hansel said:
When I am off-cycle I have no motivation to go to the gym. How bad is slacking during off-cycles? Its demotivating hopping off and seeing ur lifts plateau while you're working out 4 times a week. Also I am using nolvadex after cycle, but still. Cycle is test + anavar. Will working out twice a week off-cycle be "good enough" to where it is still worth it? Also I wont cruise.
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whats ur doses rn
 
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why tf would u not cruise
 
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foidslayer727 said:
why tf would u not cruise
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I guess I could cruise, but my life is pretty hectic with some travelling making it difficult. So I plan the cycles for when I have time. Also scared it will age me faster and fuck up my test levels long term.
 
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Hansel said:
When I am off-cycle I have no motivation to go to the gym. How bad is slacking during off-cycles? Its demotivating hopping off and seeing ur lifts plateau while you're working out 4 times a week. Also I am using nolvadex after cycle, but still. Cycle is test + anavar. Will working out twice a week off-cycle be "good enough" to where it is still worth it? Also I wont cruise.
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You're an idiot for cycling in the first place if you're planning to do this long term.
 
Hansel said:
Elaborate
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1787851434250

Should be pretty fucking obvious.
 
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Realism said:
You think PCT is more healthy than taking a TRT dose, lol?
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Yeah dude, I do. Medically speaking it actually is if you look further ahead than just th next 6 months.
A TRT dose of 150mg a week might keep your blood pressure and lipids in check, but you are still 100% shut down. If you cruise for 2 years straight, you risk severe testicular atrophy, and your HPTA might never recover.
With PCT I take a temporary crash and lose some fluid/gains, but I at least my system gets to reboot so my organs and natural production actually get a break and reset.
 
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roidar said:
are you taking no androgenic or test boosting compounds? just take 100-200mg test nigggaaaaa
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Nolvadex is a test-boosting compound. And anavar during cycle.
 
Cut out the anavar and up ur test dose if you want to instead. Var does nothing differently compared to test except boning ur liver and lipids.
 
Hansel said:
Yeah dude, I do. Medically speaking it actually is if you look further ahead than just th next 6 months.
A TRT dose of 150mg a week might keep your blood pressure and lipids in check, but you are still 100% shut down. If you cruise for 2 years straight, you risk severe testicular atrophy, and your HPTA might never recover.
With PCT I take a temporary crash and lose some fluid/gains, but I at least my system gets to reboot so my organs and natural production actually get a break and reset.
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You're contradicting yourself, and you are completely and utterly wrong.

How "healthy" do you think constantly restarting your HPTA axis is? Being in a constant hormonal rollercoaster, vs being in the supraphysiological range and straight back to the physiological range, both mentally and physically.

If *YOU* actually think further than the next 6 months, you'd come to the same conclusion, LOL. Cycling would make sense if you're doing one blast and stop. NOT if you're in this for the long term.

Steroids are a lifelong commitment, you should NOT do it unless you're in it for life.

Besides, the decision is easy because TRT is gonna benefit EVERY SINGLE MALE at *some* point in their life, so at worst you're just starting a little bit early.

Your logic is completely flawed.
 
roidar said:
oh yeah I forgot, anyways why dont u switch to test? i dont get it
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Health reasons, restarting my natural production and giving organs break during off-cycle. Test taper doesnt do that
 
Hansel said:
Health reasons, restarting my natural production and giving organs break during off-cycle. Test taper doesnt do that
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hmm I mean bro the trt wont be that much worse for ur organ recovery or wtv, plus u wont crash ur hormones, feel like shit, slacking off, literally everything ur trying to fix can and should be fixed by using a light dose of test. just take trt nigga
 
Realism said:
You're contradicting yourself, and you are completely and utterly wrong.

How "healthy" do you think constantly restarting your HPTA axis is? Being in a constant hormonal rollercoaster, vs being in the supraphysiological range and straight back to the physiological range, both mentally and physically.

If *YOU* actually think further than the next 6 months, you'd come to the same conclusion, LOL. Cycling would make sense if you're doing one blast and stop. NOT if you're in this for the long term.

Steroids are a lifelong commitment, you should NOT do it unless you're in it for life.

Besides, the decision is easy because TRT is gonna benefit EVERY SINGLE MALE at *some* point in their life, so at worst you're just starting a little bit early.

Your logic is completely flawed.
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Im doing it for probably 2 years, 4 cycles total. My natural test level is 950ng/dL, Id like to not fuck that up long term. Plenty of guys cycle for a few years to reach a specific physique, run a proper PCT, and maintain a perfectly fine natural baseline for decades. I know cruising is the best for building and maintaining. My mental health is the same on cycle as off cycle.
 
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My mental health is the same on cycle as off cycle.
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I have no motivation to go to the gym. How bad is slacking during off-cycles? Its demotivating hopping off and seeing ur lifts plateau while you're working out 4 times a week
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sure.
 
elxbp said:
Cut out the anavar and up ur test dose if you want to instead. Var does nothing differently compared to test except boning ur liver and lipids.
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Anavar does not aromatize into estrogen.
 
Hansel said:
Reduced motivation due to plateau is normal not a sign of mental collapse lmao. I still have energy and feel good. Whatever dude.
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Yeah. It certainly has nothing to do with your test being the same as a castrated boy.
 
Realism said:
Yeah. It certainly has nothing to do with your test being the same as a castrated boy.
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Yeah for a few weeks, thats how PCT works... Im sure it has everything to do with the cycle I did back in April. Better to be low test for a few weeks than being dependent on a needle the rest of your life. I dont agree with this life-long commitment thing. Just curious though, what dosage test would you even recommend for cruising?
 
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Yeah for a few weeks, thats how PCT works... Im sure it has everything to do with the cycle I did back in April. Better to be low test for a few weeks than being dependent on a needle the rest of your life. I dont agree with this life-long commitment thing. Just curious though, what dosage test would you even recommend for cruising?
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Test will always be available, it's dirt cheap and easy to produce, at worst get a script for whenever you want to travel and bring it legally with you, there's not much inconvenience, literally pin twice a week with an insulin syringe.

That's highly individual. usual range is somewhere between 100-150mg per week. Some super bad responders need 200.

People convert test differently, people have the highest sense of well being at different levels. I use 60mg per week which puts me at 550 ng/dl, which is perfect for me.

More is not better, and as long as you're in the physiological range you're fine. Go by feeling.
 
Realism said:
Test will always be available, it's dirt cheap and easy to produce, at worst get a script for whenever you want to travel and bring it legally with you, there's not much inconvenience, literally pin twice a week with an insulin syringe.

That's highly individual. usual range is somewhere between 100-150mg per week. Some super bad responders need 200.

People convert test differently, people have the highest sense of well being at different levels. I use 60mg per week which puts me at 550 ng/dl, which is perfect for me.

More is not better, and as long as you're in the physiological range you're fine. Go by feeling.
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Im sure 150mg weekly will benefit my 950ng/dL alot:feelshah:
 
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