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You hate betabuxxing and say all betabuxxers are cucks and you never want to become one. But at the same time you want a society with Islamic rules in which every man has to become a betabuxxer for a woman.

How does that make sense?
 
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You hate betabuxxing and say all betabuxxers are cucks and you never want to become one. But at the same time you want a society with Islamic rules in which every man has to become a betabuxxer for a woman.

How does that make sense?
option 1- u take roastie that rode 100+ cocks aged 30+.

and raise chad's children.

option 2- u start a family with a VIRGIN girl (18+) and YOUR children and u invest in them.
 
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option 1- u take roastie that rode 100+ cocks aged 30+.

and raise chad's children.

option 2- u start a family with a VIRGIN girl (18+) and YOUR children and u invest in them.
She still won't be attracted to you if you are ugly.

Why not looksmax, get your looksmatch and raise your own kids? It's not impossible. Would you really prefer to get an arranged wife who is utterly disgusted by you?
 
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She still won't be attracted to you if you are ugly.

Why not looksmax, get your looksmatch and raise your own kids? It's not impossible. Would you really prefer to get an arranged wife who is utterly disgusted by you?
That's not how it works tho.

if u actually looked into it the girl gets to see and say if she agrees or not.

(unless she is living in slums of mumbai and ur giga rich) then her parents would most likely force her.

and the girl finding u unattractive would go way down because she won't just sleep with chads all the time.

if every girl rejects even after less chads its over just ldar.
 
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Yeah exactly

If women can't work, men have to provide for them (food, rent, everything) = this is literally the definition of betaprovider

It was the same in old christian society btw
Men work and provide, women give sex and make sons
That's why I think it's nothing bad if women get education and work experience. Women should be financially independent when they meet a man, so they can be attracted to him and not just care about the money.

When the woman is pregnant, she can become a stay-at-home mom if she wants, so men should have a career too. But if men have to provide for her from the beginning, it's just betabuxxing.
 
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U can still rape your women secretely at home and no one is gonna say anything. Your wife is gonna be loyal to you for the rest of her life otherwise she will get punished, you can do anything you want to her behind closed doors.
 
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Who cares if she is repulsed by you?
She will eventually get to love you through Stockholm syndrome. And she can't cheat on you either. It's not perfect but way better than western society at this point.
 
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Yeah exactly

If women can't work, men have to provide for them (food, rent, everything) = this is literally the definition of betaprovider

It was the same in old christian society btw
Men work and provide, women give sex and make sons
beta provider only applies to ran through post chad dick women not virgins
 
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You hate betabuxxing and say all betabuxxers are cucks and you never want to become one. But at the same time you want a society with Islamic rules in which every man has to become a betabuxxer for a woman.

How does that make sense?
the word betabux only exist in whorish society like the west where you are spending your money on a used cum bucket..in islamic socciety its not the case hence its not cuck to fuck a woman(who also raises your kids)and in return just giving her shelter nd food
 
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You hate betabuxxing and say all betabuxxers are cucks and you never want to become one. But at the same time you want a society with Islamic rules in which every man has to become a betabuxxer for a woman.

How does that make sense?
This is a bad argument because in modern sense, betabuxxing is a subservient position for a man where he’s always trying to keep the girl and prevent her from leaving. Always trying to please her, etc. In Islam the man is the dominant part of the relationship, and the girl is dependent on him and has virtually no right comparative to western relationship. Getting a gf by something other than attraction = betabuxxing.
 
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Yeah exactly

If women can't work, men have to provide for them (food, rent, everything) = this is literally the definition of betaprovider

It was the same in old christian society btw
Men work and provide, women give sex and make sons
provider yes, but not beta. Just providing for a woman doesn’t make you beta by itself.
 
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Unironically ideal tho, imagine being the chad toy boy of a MILF that pays you :what:
SOOOO HOT
FUCK
IMAGINE HER BEING YOUR SUGAR MOMMY
JRx7YZG3fQqtZd2jBJmWwA
 
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She still won't be attracted to you if you are ugly.

Why not looksmax, get your looksmatch and raise your own kids? It's not impossible. Would you really prefer to get an arranged wife who is utterly disgusted by you?
"attracted"?:feelsuhh: R u bluepilled or some shit''muh muh love''jfl..who give a fck about attraction when you are getting pussy ..the goal of attraction is ultimately to get pussy
 
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if u actually looked into it the girl gets to see and say if she agrees or not.
If she can agree or not, then what's the difference between Islam and the West?
and the girl finding u unattractive would go way down because she won't just sleep with chads all the time.

if every girl rejects even after less chads its over just ldar.
"Chad only" is a myth, Normies can get their looksmatch.

But if men don't care about their looks and ugly men still get wives, that's just betabuxxing and it's not good. Men should attract their partners, just like in the West.
 
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Islam isn't as good as it's made out to be. Many incels still suffer under it, and even if they do get an arranged marriage, their wives hate them.
if she hate him so what:feelsuhh::soy::soy:hes still getting pussy nd the girl cant say she hates him on his face cuz he will beat her..to him its the same as the girl likes him
 
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Cope. She will hate you forever.

So you think it's good to spend all your money for a woman who hates you?
"Hates"
the word betabux only exist in whorish society like the west where you are spending your money on a used cum bucket..in islamic socciety its not the case hence its not cuck to fuck a woman(who also raises your kids)and in return just giving her shelter nd food
if she hate him so what:feelsuhh::soy::soy:hes still getting pussy nd the girl cant say she hate him on his face cuz he will beat her..to him its the same as the girl likes him
 
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If she can agree or not, then what's the difference between Islam and the West?

"Chad only" is a myth, Normies can get their looksmatch.

But if men don't care about their looks and ugly men still get wives, that's just betabuxxing and it's not good. Men should attract their partners, just like in the West.
West-

Chad: hi

Girl: spreads legs.

20's-30's gone

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Islam-

Chad: Hi

father/brother: either marry the girl or fuck off, and if she sneaks with chad they both get killed.

Girl marries a guy around her looks level unless chad is gonna sink a ton on Becky which is not happening.
 
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who give a fck about attraction when you are getting pussy ..the goal of attraction is ultimately to get pussy
Getting pussy without attraction is exactly the thing people here want to avoid. They want the woman to be attracted to them.
 
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Getting pussy without attraction is exactly the thing people here want to avoid. They want the woman to be attracted to them.
U r bluepilled if u believe in love meme...ultimate goal of attraction is pussy..nd with this logic she is still not attracted to u ..she is attractecd to ur face which i can destroy in secs with acid attack..what will u do then..islam is based stop the cope
 
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islam is cope for sand niggers
 
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This is a bad argument because in modern sense, betabuxxing is a subservient position for a man where he’s always trying to keep the girl and prevent her from leaving. Always trying to please her, etc.
In Islamic societies, the men has to provide for the woman. It's his duty. That's even worse imo, in the West it can happen that a poor man gets a woman who he can't provide for, but she still likes him.
In Islam the man is the dominant part of the relationship, and the girl is dependent on him and has virtually no right comparative to western relationship.
The man has to spend all his money for her. I agree that Muslim husbands are the dominant part, but only if they "qualify" for the woman by being a provider, so it's still "money for pussy."
 
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if she hate him so what:feelsuhh::soy::soy:hes still getting pussy nd the girl cant say she hates him on his face cuz he will beat her..to him its the same as the girl likes him
Incels outside of arranged marriages can pay for whores, and they don't have to live with them (and constantly be nagged as the woman gets older and fatter).
 
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Islam has some very based elements, like how women cant dress or act like whores in public. I think it's incredibly provocative and a sign of 0 respect towards men when women are allowed to dress like whores. And men are being told THEY are creepy for staring, when they are obviously being provoked?

Makes 0 fucking sense tbh.

About the betabux part, I already talked with you about this in another topic where I said due to the tax system in most western nations, you are a betabux by default as a man.

In most LTRs in the West, it's also common for the man to still be the main breadwinner and for the wife to be part-time working, or have low-income. So you will be betabux regardless, except under islam you would have a young virgin wife instead of a 30yo woman.
 
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Incels outside of arranged marriages can pay for whores, and they don't have to live with them (and constantly be nagged as the woman gets older and fatter).
what about kids
 
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what about kids
Breeding is disgusting. And breeding won't improve quality of life, despite many copers thinking otherwise.
 
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Niggas really think Muslim girls don’t have boyfriends in high school and college :unsure::unsure:
 
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In Islamic societies, the men has to provide for the woman. It's his duty. That's even worse imo, in the West it can happen that a poor man gets a woman who he can't provide for, but she still likes him.

The man has to spend all his money for her. I agree that Muslim husbands are the dominant part, but only if they "qualify" for the woman by being a provider, so it's still "money for pussy."
How is providing for your wife, your “property” to make sure she raises your kids so bad?
 
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You hate betabuxxing and say all betabuxxers are cucks and you never want to become one. But at the same time you want a society with Islamic rules in which every man has to become a betabuxxer for a woman.

How does that make sense?
because when people here think of Islam they conjure up the image of having 50 wives and cutting off women's hands while raping them, not to mention the fact that Islam is associated with women being forced to cover up and being treated as property
 
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I think it's incredibly provocative and a sign of 0 respect towards men when women are allowed to dress like whores. And men are being told THEY are creepy for staring, when they are obviously being provoked?
I don't think it should be banned though, women should just not be mad if some men stare (of course, actual harassment should be punished).

Also, in Islamic countries women are harassed all the time. There is even a name for group rapings: Taharrush. I know it because some refugees are doing it in Germany, and they did it in their home countries too.
About the betabux part, I already talked with you about this in another topic where I said due to the tax system in most western nations, you are a betabux by default as a man.
Well I don't agree with that. Paying taxes ≠ betabuxxer.

For example, Chad pay taxes but he isn't a betabuxxer. The 30 yo programmer who gets a partner after being alone forever is a betabuxxer.
In most LTRs in the West, it's also common for the man to still be the main breadwinner and for the wife to be part-time working, or have low-income. So you will be betabux regardless, except under islam you would have a young virgin wife instead of a 30yo woman.
It's just different to find a partner through traditional dating and compared to getting an arranged wife. With traditional dating, there is real attraction is most cases, whether because of looks or personality.
 
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islam is cope but I would support a replacement of modern laws with sharia tbh
 

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