Question regarding hair systems

[TimmyAshan1]

Hi guys, I have been struggling for a few years now, and I've been considering getting a hair system.
I am Norwood5, and I was baited by the bluepillers to 'just shave it off bro and become more masculine' instead of trying to salvage my hairline a few years ago when I was still Norwood2-3. Since I became a blackpiller, I've actually grown to realize how important having hair actually is (especially in the niche I want to nichemaxx towards). I also did an experiment I put an AI edited catfished image of myself on Feeld with hair, and I went from 1-2 matches per month to 2-3 per week. I am already on Finasteride and Minoxidil, but that only really prevents further loss instead of restoring old hair, and the type of hairstyle that I want can't really be done with a transplant easily.

As such, I am looking into hair systems instead. I've seem some people (especially DeusMaximus, ItsOver999 and Pretty_bread) have great success with hair systems, and I am wondering how well hair systems could work (especially IRL at clubs, bars and festivals). I've both seen clips of guys getting their hair systems ripped off, but I've also heard some other guys being able to go skydiving and taking them on rollercoasters without any issues at all. The festival I'll be going to is a 5 day hippie/boho/psytrance festival in summer.

If a hair system is professionally installed and maintained a few days prior, can they survive multi-day festivals with dancing and sweating? I don't really dance TOO much at festivals though (I mostly chill/socialize instead of heavy dancing), and I don't take many drugs (besides alcohol, weed and MDMA) so sweating won't be a massive problem for me. The thing that I am most worried about is what if I pull a girl to my tent (or behind some bushes) and she starts going freaky with my hair? I'm not talking about gentle stroking but actual hard tugs when she's on MDMA at 3AM and her inhibitions are down.
Even then, I'd rather be embarassed with a lifting wig than be mostly invisible. Embarassment is temporary, invisiblity is eternal.

I COULD potentially tell them up-front like "Hey just so you know, my hair is not completely real" in a playful manner, and she might even think 'oh he has hair extensions' or something.
As a bit of an anecdote, I did show drunk/high girls (because I feel like they are less 'politically correct' when they are on drugs/alcohol) at a rave 2 pictures, the bald version and the version with hair and asked which one they preferred, and 35/40 preferred the one with hair (big fucking surprise...), and I also asked them if they minded even if it was a wig (I didn't say 'hair system', so many probably just thought 'cheap party wig' or something), and most of them didn't mind at all. But I don't know if I can interpret this data correctly, because they can SAY that they don't mind out of politeness, but their hindbrains could still be screaming 'He's fake! Abort!' or whatever.

The thing is that I don't really see any sort of field reports of guys using hair systems at festivals. That could probably be due to the fact that this forum isn't really about 'comprehensive field reports' perse, but moreso off-handed comments about experiences like "I fucked 2 girls at a swingers party while wearing a hair system" instead of a full autistic breakdown , and that on redpilled/PUA forums any sort of mention regarding looks gets instantly berated with "Looks don't matter bro it's about game" cope.

Hair system specs:
Poly/Lace hybrid, Remy Indian hair, 33cm wave-curl brown/black hair with slight bleach knots, 80% density, custom-measured for skull (NW5 dense native hair blended with system), simulated NW2 recession, free-style. Professional install.


TL;DR:

• Already on finasteride + minoxidil, but I see them mostly as maintenance, not real restoration.
• Not leaning toward a transplant because my desired hairstyle is hard to achieve that way, so I’m considering a hair system.
• I’d rather risk temporary embarrassment from a lifting system than stay invisible bald.
• Girls mentioned that they didn't care if it was a system or not, but IDK if I can trust that data.
• Can a professionally installed hair system survive a 5-day summer festival with heat, sweating, dancing, alcohol/weed/MDMA, and hookups?
• Biggest concern: what happens if a girl aggressively pulls my hair during sex/hookups? Is that manageable with proper prep?
• Should I disclose it playfully upfront, or keep my mouth shut?

 

[vision_n]

just a wear a cap at the events, if the case get worse than get your luggage and have a nice trip to turkey

 

[avgsub5human]

idk but interesting question bump

 

[avgsub5human]

just a wear a cap at the events, if the case get worse than get your luggage and have a nice trip to turkey

if he even has enough donor hair left, maybe blast dut and try to regrow as much as possible

 

[Tyler1]

Norwood 5 brutal bro

 

[81xa]

use ru58841

 

[TimmyAshan1]

just a wear a cap at the events, if the case get worse than get your luggage and have a nice trip to turkey

I'm already wearing a cap (technically a headwrap) at festivals anyways though. I might get a hair transplant, but my main worry is that most cap out around 35-45 grafts/cm2, and I don't know if the hairstyle I want can work with it. I'll very likely get a transplant in 2027-2028 and then combine it with a frontal system or something.

For now I'll just test the hair system and if it doesn't work out this summer I'll get a transplant (not sure if I'll get it in Turkey or if I'll do it in the Netherlands)

 

[TimmyAshan1]

Norwood 5 brutal bro

I know
I really wish I wasn't baited to 'just shave it off bro' 4-5 years ago.

 

[TimmyAshan1]

if he even has enough donor hair left, maybe blast dut and try to regrow as much as possible

My sides/back are still solid enough. My main issue is that I do want to go for 'long bohemian hair', so IDK if a transplant can deliver that density required. This is the type of hair that I ideally want to go for (even if it's more recessed like NW2-3).

 

[sonic55555]

Looksmaximus wore a hair piece and he looked awesome

 

[sonic55555]

 

[sonic55555]

grow a beard and match the hair piece color to the beard, then it will look seamless

 

[TimmyAshan1]

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yeah I've seen a lot of guys with hair systems look good in videos/photos. I'm just curious how obvious it'll be IRL. My main worry is that I have to treat it like it's the most fragile thing in the world.

 

[TimmyAshan1]

grow a beard and match the hair piece color to the beard, then it will look seamless

I'm already growing a beard, and they've spent around 10 minutes trying to find a perfect match for my natural hair at the clinic.

 

[sonic55555]

drop the fin and dutasteride and go for the looksmaximus look

this shit goes hard

 

[avgsub5human]

My sides/back are still solid enough. My main issue is that I do want to go for 'long bohemian hair', so IDK if a transplant can deliver that density required. This is the type of hair that I ideally want to go for (even if it's more recessed like NW2-3).

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I mean, ud need very good hairline I still think you should give dut a shot or some ru58841 just to get more donor hairs going but if ur back and shit is actually good they could maybe cook idk im not turkish u could prob ask them before appointment

 

[TimmyAshan1]

My hair system arrives June18, I have a 1day festival on June20.
On the positive side, I'll have a professional install and all of the info will be fresh in my mind, and I have a friend willing to help maintain it. On the negative side, it'll be a trial by fire and I'll likely be extremely anxious all the time.

 

[TimmyAshan1]

Also fuck it imma rant for a bit as I'm drunk right now.

Basically I ALWAYS used to have long hair as a kid/teen, because it resonated with my identitiy a lot and I'm currenly leaning more towards a boho aestethic which requires me to have that long hair. And the thing is, I was balding in late college but I didn't mind it at all because I was focussed on my studies instead of actually trying to date and party like I was during the first 2 years.

And then I COULD have chosen to salvage my hair or just shaving it off
I was baited into 'just shave it off bro, you'll look more masculine and hotter'
I swear /r/bald is just a fucking echo chamber of bullshit!!!
And the fucked up part is that I the type of girls that I've always been into greatly fetishize long hair, so I'm here like "Great that I knew that after all this time after I've started to go bald"

Seriously, fuck /r/bald and fuck the bluepilled cucks for baiting me to shave it off instead of trying to salvage my hair!

• Hairloss in general is BRUTAL for PSL/appeal, it makes you look soooooo much older. There have been plenty of experiments bald vs hair on dating apps with the same exact bone structure, and most guys got 6-10x more matches with hair! That's fucking brutal!!!
• They always bring up 'but look at [attractive bald guy]'! Even those 'attractive bald guys' would still benefit from hair! Even HTN, CL and Chad would still get fucked if they went bald! I would reckon that even a 'bald Chad' who's already getting 1000 matches per week would be getting 5000 per week if he had hair
• The guys saying to 'just shave it off' likely aren't trying to optimize for dating at all, or they're likely already 40+ year old married guys anyways.
• Even if "Baldness was more masculine" (it isn't), not everybody wants to look like a 'bald tough guy with a thick beard' (which only works if you're like 35-40+ anyways. If you're 20-30 you're severely capping yourself hard)
• If baldness 'is so sexy' then how come most of the guy writing those 'bald is sexy articles' or making those videos have full heads of hair? If baldness 'is so sexy' then why did Julius Ceaser assassinate guys that looked at his receding hairline? In fact, the entire first Spongebob movie's plot revolves around a guy trying to compensate for his baldness if you think about it!
• Certain niches heavily reward/fetishize guys with certain hairstyles.

 

[Prøphet]

Update?

 

[TimmyAshan1]

Update?

My hair system arrives on June18 (got delayed twice )

I actually met a girl (she wasn't that hot, but she was heavily my type (barefoot, flowy maxi dress, dreaded hair, fluid movement, astrology-based bag)) at a venue this weekend (with a headwrap to hide my NW5); hooked up with her and exchanged contact info. I actually mentioned that I was getting a hair system, and said "If you want to, you can help test it by pulling/tugging as hard as you can", and she responded "hahahaha you don't have ask me twice ". So I'm really eager to see how this'll go. Especially if it can survive multi-day festivals with preparation/maintenance .

At least I know that I CAN hook up even without having long hair; but my desire for long hair isn't JUST for girls but also for personal archetype alignment.

 

[Prøphet]

My hair system arrives on June18 (got delayed twice )

I actually met a girl (she wasn't that hot, but she was heavily my type) at a venue this weekend (with a headwrap to hide my NW5); hooked up with her and exchanged contact info. I actually mentioned that I was getting a hair system, and said "If you want to, you can help test it by pulling/tugging as hard as you can", and she responded "hahahaha you don't have ask me twice ". So I'm really eager to see how this'll go. Especially if it can survive multi-day festivals with preparation/maintenance .

At least I know that I CAN hook up even without having long hair; but my desire for long hair isn't JUST for girls but also for personal archetype alignment.

Holy you must be a mogger to pull that with nw5 mirin

 

[TimmyAshan1]

Holy you must be a mogger to pull that with nw5 mirin

I was wearing a headwrap to cover my hairline.
But most of these girls are extremely open in these scenes anyways, especially if you look you like belong in these scenes instead of a 'generic normie who wandered in'. And the funny part is that most of the guys with long hair in this scene are all older creepier guys, and most of them are still wearing generic outfits.
So that's why I'm hoping that the hairsystem will help me in the future to make me stand out even more, because with my headwrap+beard I do kinda look like a 'middle eastern migrant' right now.

 

[avgsub5human]

ngl I really appreicate you being so open and honest about this shit, im happy ur still thriving though

 

[TimmyAshan1]

ngl I really appreicate you being so open and honest about this shit, im happy ur still thriving though

Honestly, I really fucking want that hair system to work. Because I KNOW that I am not suited for mainstream dating at all; but that's totally fine by me. I don't give a flying fuck about 'PSL6.5 Stacy at the club in Zara jeans' at all, I KNOW I'm invisible to them and that's completely fine by me. I'd much rather prefer 'PSL2.5 Luna in a maxi dress at the solstice gathering' or something; but those girls are extremely attracted to guys that have long hair as it symbolises 'non-conformity' and stuff like that. Which is why I'm so fucking frustrated at /r/bald telling me to 'just shave it off and embrace baldness king'. Because at the time I did NOT KNOW that this scene even existed at all.

If it wasn't for Wheat Waffle's video on nichemaxxing, I NEVER would have even tried to enter this scene at all; or at the very least not try to optimize for it.

 

[TimmyAshan1]

Also one thing I wanna kick myself for is my lack of discipline towards losing weight. I am currently around 77kg down from 81kg, and I am aiming to reach 68kg (just as the 'meme number' to be right inbetween 6 7 and 69). I KNOW that I need to lose weight yet my ADHD-fueled brain is always like "Hey, time to go for a midnight snack at 3AM". I feel like removing facial bloat and having visible abs will be MUCH better for attractiveness than simply having hair.

At least my weight IS going down, just not as fast as I would like.

Nose surgery, hair system and chin/jaw fillers are least effortless; but for losing weight I'd ACTUALLY need to put in effort.

 

[TimmyAshan1]

I really fucking hate those bluepilled cucks over at /r/bald for baiting me to "juSt ShAve It oFf bRo, YOU'Ll Look MORE MAscUliNE". Not only did they rob me of what little attractiveness I had, but they also robbed me of my fucking identity! My identity was built around free-spiritedness and non-conformity and I took great pride in having my long hair as a teen! If I just knew that I could have used rosemary oil, finasteride, microneedling and minoxidil 5 years ago I would have been fine!
Seriously, I'm getting a hair system in 2 days from now (expect me to spam 10 threads with "Guys, dOEs My haiR sYSteM lOok NatuRaL? AnY mAJor tells? iS It obVIoUs?"). If the hair system doesn't work I'll actually fucking rope (or at least LDAR); not because "I can't pull girls" or anything but just because my fucking identity and archetype has been robbed from me!
At least the girl I'm currently dating is excited over it, and some random girl who I've already sexted with on Feeld said that she doesn't mind that it's a system; but I just want my fucking identity and look like the archetype I want to be! I actually don't give a fuck about PSL or anything like that, but just about archetype alignment; I do not even want to be a 'hypermasculine mainstream Chad' but instead a 'soft-spoken bohemian hippie artist' which is almost impossible without long hair. This is not JUST for girls, but primarily for myself