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[exkira]

he made that system, we dont need danger or courage, and there is no need to be in that system when we all could have been in heaven( following up to this)

God did not create logic or morality rather they are rooted in His being. Christians would not say that God arbitrarily established that courage requires danger but that courage by its very nature entails facing danger.

 

[william.]

I am certainly sure Jesus is the truth
first of all it is impossible for a mere human being to achieve hundred of prophecies in the old testament which was written hundred and thousands of years ago.
So I believe Jesus is the messiah, the Son of God, The God that came as flesh.

Second of all, the whole world are filled with satanic agenda,

the freemasons, poliitcians, medias, cartoons, the jews worship satan Everything in the world is filled with satanic symbols.

If the whole world is controlled by the satanists that means satan is real then if satan is real Jesus Christ is the truth inevitably.

Look at bradd pitt explicity says he tried satanism and it worked seriously.

he is clearly joking and the elite are luciferian

 

[ngannou]

he is clearly joking and the elite are luciferian

luciferian satanism the same thing.

luciferian is just a well branded satanism
he ain't joking he ain't smiling in there.

He also wears freemason ring

 

[william.]

God did not create logic or morality rather they are rooted in His being. Christians would not say that God arbitrarily established that courage requires danger but that courage by its very nature entails facing danger.

i understand that, there was no need for danger in the first place and therefor there would be no need for courage

 

[william.]

luciferian satanism the same thing.

no they are not

luciferian is just a well branded satanism
he ain't joking he ain't smiling in there.

He also wears freemason ringView attachment 4425216

he is clearly joking or covering it up as a joke

free mason is something totally different

 

[william.]

i understand that, there was no need for danger in the first place and therefor there would be no need for courage

→there is no need for life on earth

 

[exkira]

i understand that, there was no need for danger in the first place and therefor there would be no need for courage

It’s true that in a purely hypothetical world without danger, courage as we understand it wouldn’t be “needed.” But courage as a virtue still exists in principle, and since God is pure act, no good can remain merely potential, every true good must be made actual in creation.

 

[ngannou]

no they are not

he is clearly joking or covering it up as a joke

free mason is something totally different

Bro it is the same thing man.

Luciferians literally child sacrfice to the satan(baal molek)

satanist anton levy literally confirms satanism was influenced by the babylonian jewish occult kaballah

and the masons were influenced by kaballah.


so this is the basic time line

anciet canaan paganism(baal molek saturn(satan) worshipping) -----> jews betrayed God and started to worship those pagan gods ------> jews were attacked by babylonians ----->
jews mixxed judaism with babylonian occult(which involves canaan paganism) which this become kaballah till now-----> it spreaded in west become satanism ----->luciferianism(became the religion of global elites)

watch these two videos explaining the jewish kaballah and the religion of masons

 

[exkira]

It’s true that in a purely hypothetical world without danger, courage as we understand it wouldn’t be “needed.” But courage as a virtue still exists in principle, and since God is pure act, no good can remain merely potential, every true good must be made actual in creation.

Courage is just one example of goods like this.

There are obviously many others. Patience, compassion, honesty, and generosity are virtues that require struggle, temptation, or adversity to be actualized, and temptation requires that there be a lesser, or "relatively bad" choice, which necessitates a world where evil exists, and our freedom to choose it must not be impaired.

 

[brutalist0]

do you see any possibility that your religion is wrong and another being right? or are you just lucky enough to have been born into the right one whereas the other guy down the street was born into the wrong one? or may u be wrong and he right?

I see Jesus as the Truth, the Way, and the Life. So no i don’t see it as being wrong ever. But to the extent that others don’t accept that same view, doesnt matter as much.

 

[Gamerspyy786]

Allah didn't come down and reveal himself personally to you, you just believe he exists, that's faith based on a book and tradition. Same with Christianity.

If Allah did that there would be no point in this life being a test.

Also what faults does Islam have?

 

[ltn gooner]

because u seem pretty immature, and Im starting to suspect that u are a female

and the last thing I want to do is talk to a female on looksmax.org

I posted myself bhai

 

[william.]

I posted myself bhai

young then

 

[killuacel]

religious in 2025=retarded

 

[william.]

It’s true that in a purely hypothetical world without danger, courage as we understand it wouldn’t be “needed.” But courage as a virtue still exists in principle

ok

God is pure act, no good can remain merely potential, every true good must be made actual in creation.

the world really does reflect this

Courage is just one example of goods like this.

how can you objectively call it good. Courage is often very bad and can lead to harm

There are obviously many others. Patience, compassion, honesty, and generosity are virtues that require struggle, temptation, or adversity to be actualized,

again you can't just prescribe one to be bad or good

and temptation requires that there be a lesser, or "relatively bad" choice, which necessitates a world where evil exists, and our freedom to choose it must not be impaired.

and again we dont have free will if christianity is true.

 

[exkira]

the world really does reflect this

yes, as certain goods can only exist in a world with evil

how can you objectively call it good. Courage is often very bad and can lead to harm

Courage as a virtue is good as it involves choosing the good despite circumstance, even should that circumstance involve harm or even death (this is why Christians venerate martyrs).

Courage is just one example of these kinds of goods which require evil.

 

[exkira]

again you can't just prescribe one to be bad or good

I’m not simply labeling things good or bad. You’re assuming the world is too evil for God, and I’m showing how, within a Christian framework, that isn’t the case. In fact, if we adopt your atheistic worldview then terms like “good” or “evil” lose objective meaning, making your objection via the problem of evil nonsensical.

I'm giving an explanation within a Christian framework against the problem of evil, which makes sense given the problem of evil is an internal critique of Christianity from a stance where you already have conceded that virtues are objectively good.

and again we dont have free will if christianity is true.

I have already refuted this

 

[gymcel64]

pre-Christianity european religions are the truth.

 

[william.]

yes, as certain goods can only exist in a world with evil

Courage as a virtue is good as it involves choosing the good despite circumstance, even should that circumstance involve harm or even death (this is why Christians venerate martyrs).

Courage is just one example of these kinds of goods which require evil.

Calling courage a good already presupposes a standard of goodness. Without an objective moral foundation, that claim is arbitrary.
so called goods is no argument for god

pre-Christianity european religions are the truth.

would have to look into that

 

[exkira]

Calling courage a good already presupposes a standard of goodness. Without an objective moral foundation, that claim is arbitrary.
so called goods is no argument for god

yes

Im not using the existence of courage (or other higher moral goods) to prove God.

I just answered your objection to the problem of evil, and demonstrated the existence of evil does not disprove God but rather it is exactly what is to be expected should God exist.

Tbh im not trying to debate much more tho lol