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1. How do you deal with the fact that your god always let you down at your lowest and never even bothered to answer a single prayer?

2. Does that harm your relationship with him, since the love is obviously one-sided, because you worship him and get absolutely nothing in return and he doesen’t seem to give a flying fuck about your existence?
 
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1. How do you deal with the fact that your god always let you down at your lowest and never even bothered to answer a single prayer?

2. Does that harm your relationship with him, since the love is obviously one-sided, because you worship him and get absolutely nothing in return and he doesen’t seem to give a flying fuck about your existence?
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1. How do you deal with the fact that your god always let you down at your lowest and never even bothered to answer a single prayer?

2. Does that harm your relationship with him, since the love is obviously one-sided, because you worship him and get absolutely nothing in return and he doesen’t seem to give a flying fuck about your existence?
1. God answers what he wills and he has answered many of my prayers.

2. "nothing in return" nigga never heard of eternal life in paradise
 
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Got an example?

You sure an eternal paradise exists? There’s no proof for that lol just some letters on a book, written by the hands of people
I prayed for 10 MILLION BUCKS :feelsgah: (Bazinga!) and they spawned in in front of me

The Quran is the word of God not the word of men.
 
1. God answers what he wills and he has answered many of my prayers.

2. "nothing in return" nigga never heard of eternal life in paradise
1. Cope
2. Cope
 
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Just follow what you think is right, don't do harm, do good deeds & you're set.

Muh this religion muh that religion. Huge waste of time. I'd rather spend time watching Tom and Jerry than to invest into religious debates/arguments.
 
The Quran is the word of God not the word of men.
That’s what they say, but there’s no proof for that claim. I could write a book too and claim it’s the word of Santa Claus and if you don’t believe me you will go to hell. It’s the same level of proof :lul:
 
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1. How do you deal with the fact that your god always let you down at your lowest and never even bothered to answer a single prayer?
Not at all, He answered some of my difficult prayers to achieve like saving a loved being from death until still today when the doctor told us he had 2 days or saving me in general from uncomfortable situations that would have ashamed me.

In Islam we believe that prayers are answered 3 ways, Abu Sa’id al-Khudri reported: The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “There is no Muslim who calls upon Allah, without sin or cutting family ties, but that Allah will give him one of three answers: He will quickly fulfill his supplication, He will store it for him in the Hereafter, or He will divert an evil from him similar to it.” They said, “In that case we will ask for more.” The Prophet said, “Allah has even more.”

Whatever of these 3 ways happens is good, and a good muslim wishes more for the third one than anyone of the others
2. Does that harm your relationship with him, since the love is obviously one-sided, because you worship him and get absolutely nothing in return and he doesen’t seem to give a flying fuck about your existence?
I get everything in return. I have never made hard drugs, never drank alcohol, never had serious problems, never have been scared of dying myself (I could get cancer and i wouldn't care as it happened several times when i got other life or death situations), always have been more brave than other people around me because of my emaan in doing crazy stuff, everyone in my street and family loves me and everyone i know speaks good about me, i avoid bad people and i almost never suffered betrayals, i have never felt i threw a day to the trash can just because the 5 prayers make me feel complete, i have ADHD yet still thanks to the discipline learned by Islam making me wake up everyday for Fajr prayer or fasting for Ramadan it has helped me not to be a fat slob who complains always, if something harsh happens to me i don't just give up or believe it's meaningless and that helps me a lot on not getting desperated on difficult situations, if someone in my family dies like my grandfather when i spent my entire teenage years living with him i didn't feel desperate or bad and i didn't shed a single tear because he died while going to pray Fajr and knew that's the way he wanted it, if someone hurts me i take it as Allah cleansing my sins and if someone good happens to me i take it gratefully and always remember him, my best moments in life i have always remembered Allah and made prostration or prayed 2 rak'ahs or made more dua'a and dhikr, so my best moments are always connected to Him, etc. Im an incel and i know without a shadow of a doubt that if i wanted i could go tomorrow to a mountain in Morocco and get married within a week or even less and that by itself is thanks to Islamic culture, and inceldom is my biggest problem yet thanks to Islam i could solve it without a problem, i'm just picky.

I have been blessed in ways i can't count and Allah said it Himself (Interpretation of the meaning): "If you tried to count Allah’s blessings, you would never be able to number them. Surely Allah is All-Forgiving, Most Merciful."
 
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Not at all, He answered some of my difficult prayers to achieve like saving a loved being from death until still today when the doctor told us he had 2
I get everything in return. I have never made hard drugs, never drank alcohol, never had serious problems, never have been scared of dying myself (I could get cancer and i wouldn't care as it happened several times when i got other life or death situations), always have been more brave than other people around me because of my emaan in doing crazy stuff, everyone in my street and family loves me and everyone i know speaks good about me, i avoid bad people and i almost never suffered betrayals, i have never felt i threw a day to the trash can just because the 5 prayers make me feel complete, i have ADHD yet still thanks to the discipline learned by Islam making me wake up everyday for Fajr prayer or fasting for Ramadan it has helped me not to be a fat slob who complains always, if something harsh happens to me i don't just give up or believe it's meaningless and that helps me a lot on not getting desperated on difficult situations, if someone in my family dies like my grandfather when i spent my entire teenage years living with him i didn't feel desperate or bad and i didn't shed a single tear because he died while going to pray Fajr and knew that's the way he wanted it, if someone hurts me i take it as Allah cleansing my sins and if someone good happens to me i take it gratefully and always remember him, my best moments in life i have always remembered Allah and made prostration or prayed 2 rak'ahs or made more dua'a and dhikr, so my best moments are always connected to Him, etc. Im an incel and i know without a shadow of a doubt that if i wanted i could go tomorrow to a mountain in Morocco and get married within a week or even less and that by itself is thanks to Islamic culture, and inceldom is my biggest problem yet thanks to Islam i could solve it without a problem, i'm just picky.
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That’s what they say, but there’s no proof for that claim. I could write a book too and claim it’s the word of Santa Claus and if you don’t believe me you will go to hell. It’s the same level of proof :lul:
Except anyone can write a random book but no one can produce anything like the Quran.

Or do they claim, “He made it up!”? Tell them ˹O Prophet˺, “Produce one sûrah like it then, and seek help from whoever you can—other than Allah—if what you say is true!” [Surah Yunus 38]

 
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Explain Allah having a shin in the quran
˹Beware of˺ the Day the Shin ˹of Allah˺ will be bared [68:42]

The phrase "baring the shin" is a metaphor in Arabic culture for the heat of battle (i.e. a time of fear and tragedy)
 
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I mean i've felt a strong connection with god, and have had my prayers answered

but even at my low points when god hasn't given me exactly when i wanted when i wanted it, my low points are always more managable and even at moments where logically i should be crumbling internally based on the external circumstances the beleif and trust in god (tawwakul in arabic) always makes these low moments managable and easy on my psyche

i invite you to look into shia islam brother, the path of the ahlulbayt the path of islam which ensures the most spiritual fullfillment with all the duas of our imams (a),

for example an extract of Dua Dhul jawshan al kabeer : "O Allah, I ask You by Your Name, O Allah, O Merciful, O Compassionate,O Reliever of sorrow, O Remover of distress."
From all Islamic groups I do think that Shia have the best arguments, although I just don’t really believe the Koran was actually revealed by god, I think Muhammad was a very intelligent person (he was) and he wrote it himself. Same for all other books, the Jews wrote their own books, the church made their very own version as well, which is not even debatable among Christian theologians, they all agree upon this as a fact
 
If I get a slavic ginger stacey, then im gonna repent
 
God does not live in the sky nor is he anyone's father.

christcuck ass belief
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Respect other religions and people if you want them to respect you akhi kareem, 6:108 "˹O believers!˺ Do not insult what they invoke besides Allah or they will insult Allah spitefully out of ignorance. This is how We have made each people’s deeds appealing to them. Then to their Lord is their return, and He will inform them of what they used to do."
 
Except anyone can write a random book but no one can produce anything like the Quran.

Or do they claim, “He made it up!”? Tell them ˹O Prophet˺, “Produce one sûrah like it then, and seek help from whoever you can—other than Allah—if what you say is true!” [Surah Yunus 38]

Good response but I feel like you could've gone deeper into the quran being from allah as your answer wasn't conclusive enough.
 
1. How do you deal with the fact that your god always let you down at your lowest and never even bothered to answer a single prayer?

2. Does that harm your relationship with him, since the love is obviously one-sided, because you worship him and get absolutely nothing in return and he doesen’t seem to give a flying fuck about your existence?
He is the reason that I stopped a very hard drug addiction, very obvious rage thread , try harder next time
 
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˹Beware of˺ the Day the Shin ˹of Allah˺ will be bared [68:42]

The phrase "baring the shin" is a metaphor in Arabic culture for the heat of battle (i.e. a time of fear and tragedy)
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I don't think he was deliberately trying to insult religious people, just normal inquiries about religion.
Read it again if you think those are normal questions to religious people/ group
 
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1. How do you deal with the fact that your god always let you down at your lowest and never even bothered to answer a single prayer?

2. Does that harm your relationship with him, since the love is obviously one-sided, because you worship him and get absolutely nothing in return and he doesen’t seem to give a flying fuck about your existence?
hmm, how are you sure about that? thats a really blind assumption
 
Read it again if you think those are normal questions to religious people/ group
Yeah mb read it wrong, still tho one wrong doesn't justify another, always strive to be better :Comfy:
 
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tbh it's very humanly to believe that there's anything above the matter. like ideas, god, values etc.
 
1. How do you deal with the fact that your god always let you down at your lowest and never even bothered to answer a single prayer?

2. Does that harm your relationship with him, since the love is obviously one-sided, because you worship him and get absolutely nothing in return and he doesen’t seem to give a flying fuck about your existence?
1. My prayers get answered and many claim the same

2. God love us so much it's unexplainable you have to read the bible to understand and I get a lot in return an entire kingdom since you like material, like I said he care about us he did a lot for us you need to read the bible
 
nah that's cope.
 
1. My prayers get answered and many claim the same

2. God love us so much it's unexplainable you have to read the bible to understand and I get a lot in return an entire kingdom since you like material, like I said he care about us he did a lot for us you need to read the bible
My Post was a year ago. This isn’t trolling, it’s real.

I do understand what you mean. Because of some personal experiences i started to believe in the god of Abraham. Sometimes i complained about life, i cursed god and insulted him every time i had a problem, i attacked him verbally, whenever i had a problem i started attacking god and for some strange reason always the problem i was complaining about solved itself in a very strange way, at some point i knew god was giving me a message.

for example: I had problems with a someone I knew, he tried to damage me, he betrayed me in a matter (He stole money from me and then left the country), i lost a lot, people mocked me and called me a loser for being fooled by someone, i strated cursing god, i said shit like: God If you exist why do you let this happen, why did you not protect me when i needed you. why didn’t you protect me, you don’t exist, i hate you etc… after a time i was doing holidays in Turkey and for some reason i started thinking about my problems and started cursing god during holidays, but then all of a sudden, i saw this guy there chilling in the same place as me, i went up to him and spoke to him and he started shaking and gave me cash in hopes of me forgiving him. I did forgive him, because i was so confused of the situation. He was taller and stronger than me, i didn’t know why he was so scared, but i think god humiliated him to send me a message.

@hopecel This is a real story
 
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My Post was a year ago. This isn’t trolling, it’s real.

I do understand what you mean. Because of some personal experiences i started to believe in the god of Abraham. Sometimes i complained about life, i cursed god and insulted him every time i had a problem, i attacked him verbally, whenever i had a problem i started attacking god and for some strange reason always the problem i was complaining about solved itself in a very strange way, at some point i knew god was giving me a message.

for example: I had problems with a someone I knew, he tried to damage me, he betrayed me in a matter (He stole money from me and then left the country), i lost a lot, people mocked me and called me a loser for being fooled by someone, i strated cursing god, i said shit like: God If you exist why do you let this happen, why did you not protect me when i needed you. why didn’t you protect me, you don’t exist, i hate you etc… after a time i was doing holidays in Turkey and for some reason i started thinking about my problems and started cursing god during holidays, but then all of a sudden, i saw this guy there chilling in the same place as me, i went up to him and spoke to him and he started shaking and gave me cash in hopes of me forgiving him. I did forgive him, because i was so confused of the situation. He was taller and stronger than me, i didn’t know why he was so scared, but i think god humiliated him to send me a message.

@hopecel This is a real story
So what are you trying to say ? That you're a believer now?
 
Idk how they don't accept it that its cope
Even if he does tho, doesn't give a shit about us
 
Yeah i think god answers us trough non-direct ways
You know what I kinda had a same story but I wasn't the main concerned basically my uncle built for another uncle in france who's in the cousins side an entire big house without the fournitures in bulgaria from the ground up half the Time alone, half the other time with a team (yes he had that much skills) and I helped him at the very end for walls, doors etc and my uncle was supposed to get technically 20k but since it's family he told him 10k and what the guy did ? After his dad came to see what we did he was content but our guess is that after that he called him and started to invent problems in the house to point at and at the end they fucking called my unc and told him those imaginary problems and it escalated to screaming they started to fucking scream at him with his wife that he scamed them so he won't get paid ? Now imagine my unc who's a chill dude imagine how he felt knowing he did that for nothing all the material and ppl he paid for and he's not getting those 10k till this day they owe us and I'm wondering how it will end cause they're cousins were gonna have to cross our pass
 

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