Question to the natties , how can you hit the gym seriously getting subhuman results ?

[5.5psl]

Once you are past the newbie stage how can even take gym and training seriously ? you have to be super disciplined to gain barely anything taking all those protein shakes to gain 0.1 inch on you arms in a month man just lol

 

[Deleted member 30845]

Not everyone is low T

 

[inversions]

Not everyone is low T

Good argument man

 

[5.5psl]

Not everyone is low T

sub 1500ng/dl = pathetic low T
Life begins at 2500ng/dl+

 

[Deleted member 30845]

Good argument man

Hell yeah. Thanks.

 

[GoErOnFoids]

Once you are past the newbie stage how can even take gym and training seriously ? you have to be super disciplined to gain barely anything taking all those protein shakes to gain 0.1 inch on you arms in a month man just lol

Geness, but 80% of the time or even more you cant get shit in couple years as natty and then when roiding boom hulk in 2 years

 

[BiggiecheeseI]

Once you are past the newbie stage how can even take gym and training seriously ? you have to be super disciplined to gain barely anything taking all those protein shakes to gain 0.1 inch on you arms in a month man just lol

Just take a mass gainer and creatine if you wanna get bigger arms fast enough, bro!

 

[chadmanlet04]

sub 1500ng/dl = pathetic low T
Life begins at 2500ng/dl+

fyi 1500ng/dl is the upper limit for natty males with absolute elite genetics and perfect conditions, olympic natty athlete average was 1200.

its just a different world when you inject past it, no feeling ever matches it.

 

[5.5psl]

fyi 1500ng/dl is the upper limit for natty males with absolute elite genetics and perfect conditions, olympic natty athlete average was 1200.

its just a different world when you inject past it, no feeling ever matches it.

man it feels so good to be on cycle you know the more effort you put ( go harder in gym , strict clean high protein diet and 8+hrs of sleep) the more you are gonna get the strength gains are stupid fast on 500mg test e per week these natties with their pre workouts can never ever feel that nasty pump 500mg test e running in your viens gives you that 3000+ng/dl speaking

 

[Deleted member 144017]

I've never been to a gym

 

[BucketCrab]

Is being the biggest gymcel really worth destroying your health and youthfulness?

 

[5.5psl]

health

this has to be the biggest meme lol

youthfulness

you know that AI , dutasteride , tretinoin , tazarotene exists right ?

 

[Aspire To Something]

AI , dutasteride

A(romatase)i makes you retarded, dutasteride makes your dick shrink.

 

[HundredManSlayer]

Once you are past the newbie stage how can even take gym and training seriously ? you have to be super disciplined to gain barely anything taking all those protein shakes to gain 0.1 inch on you arms in a month man just lol

because i dont want to inject my lifeforce from a bottle

and im a manlet, not tryna look like a muscle hamster

 

[Norilsk]

You can get very satisfacoty results and just be lean still better than just being skinny fat

 

[Deleted member 140730]

Once you are past the newbie stage how can even take gym and training seriously ? you have to be super disciplined to gain barely anything taking all those protein shakes to gain 0.1 inch on you arms in a month man just lol

Dude's be training like their life depends on it for 15g of muscle jfl

 

[Mike456]

this has to be the biggest meme lol

you know that AI , dutasteride , tretinoin , tazarotene exists right ?

These arent all of them its so easy to stay “young” on gear

 

[Aryan Incel]

A(romatase)i makes you retarded, dutasteride makes your dick shrink.

 

[5.5psl]

A(romatase)i makes you retarded, dutasteride makes your dick shrink.

sapphiremaxxing

because i dont want to inject my lifeforce from a bottle

and im a manlet, not tryna look like a muscle hamster

well yeh as a manlet you are better off natty its already for you if you dont have chadlite+ face

You can get very satisfacoty results and just be lean still better than just being skinny fat

"satsfactory" lol in a t shirt you look normal you have no mass when you cut natty

These arent all of them its so easy to stay “young” on gear

what else besides these to stay young on gear ? taz and dut is more than enough imo for test specifically not if your blasting shit like tren

Dude's be training like their life depends on it for 15g of muscle jfl

its depressing to see them working this hard mman i grow more than you just injecting and jerking off 10x a day

 

[Deleted member 110192]

It’s so satisfying to see that normies are afraid of ‘roids

You know that the competition is reduced that way

Let them cope with muh natty and we will be in the top 0.1%

 

[Deleted member 140730]

its depressing to see them working this hard mman i grow more than you just injecting and jerking off 10x a day

Do you lift on top of roiding or just rely on roids?

 

[5.5psl]

Do you lift on top of roiding or just rely on roids?

mfer obv lift lmao what kinda question is this that was a silly comparison but true

 

[5.5psl]

Geness, but 80% of the time or even more you cant get shit in couple years as natty and then when roiding boom hulk in 2 years

roiding would get you more results in a year than entire natty lifting carrer

 

[AryanSchizo]

i don’t need steroids

 

[aids]

It’s so satisfying to see that normies are afraid of ‘roids

You know that the competition is reduced that way

Let them cope with muh natty and we will be in the top 0.1%

Better yet, retards that hop on blindly will just do more harm than good.
There is a minority of people that use steroids correctly, in the minority of people who use steroids, in the minority of people who go to the gym.
But nah, they don’t wanna be too big… just like their favourite natty influencer

 

[5.5psl]

Better yet, retards that hop on blindly will just do more harm than good.
There is a minority of people that use steroids correctly, in the minority of people who use steroids, in the minority of people who go to the gym.
But nah, they don’t wanna be too big… just like their favourite natty influencer

majority uses roids in a decent way they end up getting better gains but yes side effects are there

 

[Deleted member 110192]

majority uses roids in a decent way they end up getting better gains but yes side effects are there

There will always gonna be side effects, the question is how severe it’s gonna be for an individual

And @aids is 100% right, the vast majority of people don’t use steroids right so even those who do choose top hop on will probably end up looksminimizing themself because they didn’t do a single research and learned it the hard way

 

[Mike456]

sapphiremaxxing

well yeh as a manlet you are better off natty its already for you if you dont have chadlite+ face

"satsfactory" lol in a t shirt you look normal you have no mass when you cut natty

what else besides these to stay young on gear ? taz and dut is more than enough imo for test specifically not if your blasting shit like tren

its depressing to see them working this hard mman i grow more than you just injecting and jerking off 10x a day

Ghk-cu,derma rolling,accutane lowkey better than tret imo

There are others too but this what came quick in my mind

 

[Deleted member 140730]

mfer obv lift lmao what kinda question is this that was a silly comparison but true

I've seen a surprising amount of people on here who take gear and don't lift, it actually works surprisingly well. That being said I don't know why you wouldn't either, lifting while on gear will get you ~1.5x the results of roiding on it's own.

 

[Deleted member 140730]

Ghk-cu,derma rolling,accutane lowkey better than tret imo

There are others too but this what came quick in my mind

Derma rolling's cope and will do close to nothing on it's own. Any study you read about it's effectiveness is nearly always flawed when you actually look into it.

GHK-Cu on the other hand is by far the most effective compound you can take for your skin (excluding acne), assuming you're administering it properly with localized injections reconstituted with PBS.

 

[aids]

Ghk-cu,derma rolling,accutane lowkey better than tret imo

There are others too but this what came quick in my mind

“superior retinoid and two other treatments are better than singular inferior retinoid”
Thanks for clarifying bro.
@Copercel

 

[aids]

Derma rolling's cope and will do close to nothing on it's own. Any study you read about it's effectiveness is nearly always flawed when you actually look into it.

GHK-Cu on the other hand is by far the most effective compound you can take for your skin (excluding acne), assuming you're administering it properly with localized injections reconstituted with PBS.

JFL this fucker “by far the most effective compound”
Not skin boosters or anything, but a peptide with results so minimal, some question if it does anything at all. Shut up cunt

 

[Norilsk]

sapphiremaxxing

well yeh as a manlet you are better off natty its already for you if you dont have chadlite+ face

"satsfactory" lol in a t shirt you look normal you have no mass when you cut natty

what else besides these to stay young on gear ? taz and dut is more than enough imo for test specifically not if your blasting shit like tren

its depressing to see them working this hard mman i grow more than you just injecting and jerking off 10x a day

Either you're on gear and have balls like raisins, or you're skinny fat, so ?

 

[Draxo98]

fyi 1500ng/dl is the upper limit for natty males with absolute elite genetics and perfect conditions, olympic natty athlete average was 1200.

its just a different world when you inject past it, no feeling ever matches it.

please answer, what type of zinc made your voice deeper?

 

[coolman985]

A(romatase)i makes you retarded, dutasteride makes your dick shrink.

U are tard

 

[Aikeda Johnson]

coping because low T

 

[Chad]

coping because low T

He has higher T than your entire fucking bloodline pal.

 

[Aikeda Johnson]

He has higher T than your entire fucking bloodline pal.

Holy cope

 

[slaters]

Holy cope

But how can it be low t if he’s injecting all the t

 

[Aikeda Johnson]

But how can it be low t if he’s injecting all the t

He’s naturally low t

 

[slaters]

He’s naturally low t

Well he’s not low t anymore what’s your point

 

[Deleted member 140730]

JFL this fucker “by far the most effective compound”
Not skin boosters or anything, but a peptide with results so minimal, some question if it does anything at all. Shut up cunt

The reason why it's so common for people to debate it's efficiency is because 95% of peptide consumers are bluepilled middle-aged women who have no clue what they're doing. Even on here very few people properly administer it and just think reconstituting it with BAC and injecting systemically will suffice, so I can't blame you for thinking that.

GHK-Cu reconstituted with PBS & injected locally every day is definitively one of the best things you can do for your skin. I suggest you read more about it in this thread.

https://looksmax.org/threads/you-cant-use-ghk-cu-with-bac-use-pbs.1510099/

 

[chadmanlet04]

please answer, what type of zinc made your voice deeper?

i dont remember bro it was years ago

 

[aids]

The reason why it's so common for people to debate it's efficiency is because 95% of peptide consumers are bluepilled middle-aged women who have no clue what they're doing. Even on here very few people properly administer it and just think reconstituting it with BAC and injecting systemically will suffice, so I can't blame you for thinking that.

GHK-Cu reconstituted with PBS & injected locally every day is definitively one of the best things you can do for your skin. I suggest you read more about it in this thread.

https://looksmax.org/threads/you-cant-use-ghk-cu-with-bac-use-pbs.1510099/

Shut the fuck up you retard. GHK-CU is incomparable to shit like polynucleotides. You’re trying to school me on some of the most elementary shit that I’ve already engaged in on the forum despite you not actually knowing what I’m talking about.
You need to do your own research, not the other way around.

 

[Deleted member 140730]

Shut the fuck up you retard. GHK-CU is incomparable to shit like polynucleotides. You’re trying to school me on some of the most elementary shit that I’ve already engaged in on the forum despite you not actually knowing what I’m talking about.
You need to do your own research, not the other way around.

I'm not sure why you're so upset, if the two are not comparable why did you compare them both? GHK-Cu modulates over 4000 genes tied to wound healing while boosting TGF-§, stimulating fibroblasts regulating MMP, and promotion angiogenisis all of which are complete seperate from polynucleotides which work via A2A receptor signaling nucleotides to cause in increase in growth factors. There's obviously some overlap with TGF§/fibroblasts but GHK-Cu is definitively broader. Polynucleotides are significantl better at what they cover but are not even close to covering what GHK-Cu does. It's fair to argue polynucleotides are superior at what they do but saying that GHK-Cu "hardly works" when you're getting your information from reddit posts of room temperature iq middle aged women is ridiculous. Even just from anecdotes, I've heard for more and far greater success stories from properly ran GHK-Cu than polynucleotides.

 

[Deleted member 99272]

Once you are past the newbie stage how can even take gym and training seriously ? you have to be super disciplined to gain barely anything taking all those protein shakes to gain 0.1 inch on you arms in a month man just lol

the only people i seen natty keep up the gym and benefit from it have wide clavicles.

 

[aids]

I'm not sure why you're so upset, if the two are not comparable why did you compare them both?

Feel free to let me know where I compared them fucker. You did, not me.

GHK-Cu modulates over 4000 genes tied to wound healing while boosting TGF-§, stimulating fibroblasts regulating MMP, and promotion angiogenisis all of which are complete seperate from polynucleotides which work via A2A receptor signaling nucleotides to cause in increase in growth factors. There's obviously some overlap with TGF§/fibroblasts but GHK-Cu is definitively broader. Polynucleotides are significantl better at what they cover

Oh, like skin boosting, right? The contention of my argument is that GHK-CU is not the most effective compound for your skin, which is the claim you made:

Derma rolling's cope and will do close to nothing on it's own. Any study you read about it's effectiveness is nearly always flawed when you actually look into it.

GHK-Cu on the other hand is by far the most effective compound you can take for your skin (excluding acne), assuming you're administering it properly with localized injections reconstituted with PBS.

but are not even close to covering what GHK-Cu does. It's fair to argue polynucleotides are superior at what they do but saying that GHK-Cu "hardly works" when you're getting your information from reddit posts of room temperature iq middle aged women is ridiculous. Even just from anecdotes, I've heard for more and far greater success stories from properly ran GHK-Cu than polynucleotides.

Telling me about the other supposed effects of GHK-CU does not change the fact that it is absolutely not the best compound for skin and to make that claim is indicative of your naivety.
I don't care for your recital of the pathways as to how it works because I can also read.
Stop trying to change the argument to fit your fucking narrative. The claim you made was wrong, you have admitted it in your most recent reply. End of story. Polynucleotides are not even the best either.

Also, the reason you've heard more success stories from GHK-CU use as opposed to polynucleotides is because hardly anybody runs the latter. Obviously you engage more in the communities of which GHK-CU is overtly discussed (e.g., here), compared to polynucleotides, which 99% of forum members have never even heard of, so thanks for illustrating your sampling bias as well.
Tard

 

[Deleted member 140730]

Feel free to let me know where I compared them fucker. You did, not me.

Shut the fuck up you retard. GHK-CU is incomparable to shit like polynucleotides.

Here you brought up how polynucleotides are superior to GHK-Cu, thus comparing the two.

which is the claim you made:

Close but not quite. I claimed that polynucleotides are superior to the direct pathways they target in comparison to GHK-Cu. However, GHK-Cu affects a more broad spectrum of pathways & mechanisms which is why I'd argue it's one of, if not the most beneficial compound for skin health.

Polynucleotides are not even the best either.

Correct!

Also, the reason you've heard more success stories from GHK-CU use as opposed to polynucleotides is because hardly anybody runs the latter. Obviously you engage more in the communities of which GHK-CU is overtly discussed (e.g., here), compared to polynucleotides, which 99% of forum members have never even heard of, so thanks for illustrating your sampling bias as well.
Tard

If polynucleotides are so superior to GHK-Cu in every possible way, then why are they not talked of more? Why would a supposed "useless" and "ineffective" compound be so much more commonly than this supposed miracle product?

If you can find a single anecdote of someone properly administering GHK-Cu (e.g. daily localized injections of 2mg+ reconstituted with PBS) without seeing results as you claim so many have I'll gladly admit I'm wrong and that GHK-Cu is a supbar compound.

This is retarded. We're arguing the same point that the two are both beneficial in their own ways and neither is definitively superior. Polynucleotides are more effective at targetting the direct mechanisms they impact while GHK-Cu targets the same mechanisms to a lesser extent but across significantly more pathways.

 

[aids]

Here you brought up how polynucleotides are superior to GHK-Cu, thus comparing the two.

Apparently the word "incomparable" means I have compared them. Are you seriously that dense bro

DNR the rest of your rant because you are a pseudointellectual.

 

[Deleted member 140730]

Apparently the word "incomparable" means I have compared them. Are you seriously that dense bro

DNR the rest of your rant because you are a pseudointellectual.

So you brought up polynucleotides completely unrelated and NOT to use them as an example as to of why GHK-Cu is inferior? Calling something inferior and another superior IS comparison.

DNR the rest of your rant because you are a pseudointellectual.

You refuse to acknowledge anything I say because of this:

If you can find a single anecdote of someone properly administering GHK-Cu (e.g. daily localized injections of 2mg+ reconstituted with PBS) without seeing results as you claim so many have I'll gladly admit I'm wrong and that GHK-Cu is a supbar compound.

Not to mention being intelligent or not is completely irrelevant. Everything I've said is true, those aren't opinions those are facts. GHK-Cu DOES have a more broad spectrum of benefits in comparison to polynucleotides. That is not up for debate.