Questions for oldcels 22+ in LTRs or have been in LTRs.

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Im mid 20s. All my relationships have been STR/FWB/ONS.

I would love to get laid consistency and not suffer dry streaks by having a GF. But I am truly astounded on Sundays when your see LTRs and both partners are sweatpants, just woke up, and lounging ALL day =,

What do you do all day? Just Fuck, Eat, Shit in each others apartments and rot? I just don't know if I could keep up appearances that long or consonantly be communicating.

My FWB early this year was come over, grab quick bite/drink , fuck and GTFO.
 
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most women are boring/annoying to have around for anything other than sex so you're not in a bad position
 
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yea just fuck, eat nice food, watch movies,
 
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LTRs don’t exist in 2022
 
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As said above, unless you really have something in common with the woman as a person, you are not missing out much by simply sticking to FWB instead of being in a constant relationship.

Relationships for the 5-15 minutes of sex every now and then are not worth the drama, crying, raging, extorting and demanding that will inevitably follow once the novelty of the relationship wears out.

What do you do all day? Just Fuck, Eat, Shit in each others apartments and rot?

You can have dinner outside or go to a movie together, go to a holiday destination together etc., but yes, 95% of the time it's just fucking, eating, shitting, watching TV, rotting and sleeping.

I have tried LTR and FWB. I don't like being in a LTR anymore.
Most women are also extremely insecure and will accuse you of cheating if you're not spending time with her.

That can really wear out your psyche if you need some alone time occassionally. I applaud those women who let their men have alone time. Every time I tried to have even 1 day of alone time in my last LTR it was like a bomb I had to defuse for 2-3 days ("why don't you want to spend time with me anymore?", "don't you love me anymore?", "do you have someone else?")... Sigh

(And while you defuse that 'bomb', she of course does not want sex because she doesn't feel 'connected to you' at the moment)

Also, talking on the phone or whatsapping her several hours a day just so she feels a 'connection' is draining. Many women want to be in constant contact while in LTR and that's frustrating.
 
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most women are boring/annoying to have around for anything other than sex so you're not in a bad position
I tell myself this when I have doubts during drystreaks, despite being largly volcel since I don't even go out to the bars walking distance to my apt LOL.

The only two I could tolerate this year for reasonable amount of time were both introverts.

Even my friend and his fiance came into town and I spent the whole weekend with them, I don't think the girl made me laugh 1 time and simply was just "there" While I jestered for both.
 
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most women are boring/annoying to have around for anything other than sex so you're not in a bad position
good ltrs have to be insanely hard to get
finding a girl with good values, personality, sense of humour, hobbies etc it's already nightmare difficulty, finding someone with these traits that likes you? even worse
 
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yeah you just rot + fuck all day together.

if u have a sexy + funny girl it can be nice. Otherwise it gets boring fast.
 
As said above, unless you really have something in common with the woman as a person, you are not missing out much by simply sticking to FWB instead of being in a constant relationship.

Relationships for the 5-15 minutes of sex every now and then are not worth the drama, crying, raging, extorting and demanding that will inevitably follow once the novelty of the relationship wears out.



You can have dinner outside or go to a movie together, go to a holiday destination together etc., but yes, 95% of the time it's just fucking, eating, shitting, watching TV, rotting and sleeping.

I have tried LTR and FWB. I don't like being in a LTR anymore.
Most women are also extremely insecure and will accuse you of cheating if you're not spending time with her.
Like you i don't even want an LTR and loved the FWB situation. I had two this year.

I just need to snap out volcel cycle and approach my iOis and actually go to the bars right next door.

Thats why i am questioning if I am missing out on LTR experience.
good ltrs have to be insanely hard to get
finding a girl with good values, personality, sense of humour, hobbies etc it's already nightmare difficulty, finding someone with these traits that likes you? even worse
Finding those in someone who likes you and your mutually attracted? Insanely difficult
 
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good ltrs have to be insanely hard to get
finding a girl with good values, personality, sense of humour, hobbies etc it's already nightmare difficulty, finding someone with these traits that likes you? even worse
Dm?
 
when did 22 become oldcel :dafuckfeels:
 
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Finding those in someone who likes you and your mutually attracted? Insanely difficult
So much of it is looks. I've accepted how looks-centric and animalistic human life is, and it's depressing to some degree.

If you are lean and have a good body+face, women equate that with a good personality for some reason as long as you treat her with even a tiny bit of basic decency.

That same woman will completely ignore you on a dating app or in a bar were you +15kg heavier or balding.

Some women will also instantly be attracted to a tall guy as long as he has even a mediocre face.
Their mind will come up with all kinds of reasons why they will like your personality and lifestyle after they've locked own their own tall guy mascot to show off to her friends.
 
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As said above, unless you really have something in common with the woman as a person, you are not missing out much by simply sticking to FWB instead of being in a constant relationship.

Relationships for the 5-15 minutes of sex every now and then are not worth the drama, crying, raging, extorting and demanding that will inevitably follow once the novelty of the relationship wears out.



You can have dinner outside or go to a movie together, go to a holiday destination together etc., but yes, 95% of the time it's just fucking, eating, shitting, watching TV, rotting and sleeping.

I have tried LTR and FWB. I don't like being in a LTR anymore.
Most women are also extremely insecure and will accuse you of cheating if you're not spending time with her.

That can really wear out your psyche if you need some alone time occassionally. I applaud those women who let their men have alone time. Every time I tried to have even 1 day of alone time in my last LTR it was like a bomb I had to defuse for 2-3 days ("why don't you want to spend time with me anymore?", "don't you love me anymore?", "do you have someone else?")... Sigh

(And while you defuse that 'bomb', she of course does not want sex because she doesn't feel 'connected to you' at the moment)

Also, talking on the phone or whatsapping her several hours a day just so she feels a 'connection' is draining. Many women want to be in constant contact while in LTR and that's frustrating.

Most women are also extremely insecure and will accuse you of cheating if you're not spending time with her.

That can really wear out your psyche if you need some alone time occassionally. I applaud those women who let their men have alone time. Every time I tried to have even 1 day of alone time in my last LTR it was like a bomb I had to defuse for 2-3 days ("why don't you want to spend time with me anymore?", "don't you love me anymore?", "do you have someone else?")... Sigh

(And while you defuse that 'bomb', she of course does not want sex because she doesn't feel 'connected to you' at the moment)

Also, talking on the phone or whatsapping her several hours a day just so she feels a 'connection' is draining. Many women want to be in constant contact while in LTR and that's frustrating."

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This is the insight I wanted, thanks for expanding.

Exactly what I feared. And a year ago I had one pushing the BF thing and constantly texting me and when I distanced myself she gave me startfish sex and was cold as ice after a weekend of not hanging out. I kicked her out.
 
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yeah you just rot + fuck all day together.

if u have a sexy + funny girl it can be nice. Otherwise it gets boring fast.
I can imagine she needs to be quite sexy and have a great personality.

All my STR/FWB involed a ton of alchol on my part since it was literally just sitting there after some flat conversation at a bar/restaurant.

Props the men who ignorantly LTR. Mabey their happier than me who knows
 
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I can imagine she needs to be quite sexy and have a great personality.

All my STR/FWB involed a ton of alchol on my part since it was literally just sitting there after some flat conversation at a bar/restaurant.

Props the men who ignorantly LTR. Mabey their happier than me who knows
The first girl I had was actually quite funny and interesting, despite being a basic bitch. She was always high-energy, making jokes, didn't mind doing goofy shit like me lifting her up in public and running around with her, etc. etc.

Second girl was the most boring shit ever though.

I don't really have the looks to have standards though, I take what I can get and hope it's good. Throw shit at a wall and see what sticks.

u need to be chad to be able to find a girl with a good personality. It's why a lot of chads date beckies because girls their own looks-level often lack any personality.
 
So much of it is looks. I've accepted how looks-centric and animalistic human life is, and it's depressing to some degree.

If you are lean and have a good body+face, women equate that with a good personality for some reason as long as you treat her with even a tiny bit of basic decency.

That same woman will completely ignore you on a dating app or in a bar were you +15kg heavier or balding.

Some women will also instantly be attracted to a tall guy as long as he has even a mediocre face.
Their mind will come up with all kinds of reasons why they will like your personality and lifestyle after they've locked own their own tall guy mascot to show off to her friends.
yeah I have learned and accepted that too, your personality is completely irrelevant, as long as your a normal person personality wise, your success in dating is strictly dependent on your looks and even if you are crazy it wont matter if your giga chad.
 
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The ONLY reason to ever cohabitate with a woman is if you are raising children together. Otherwise, there is 0 reason to ever live with a woman. In fact, it used to be considered SINFUL to live with a woman before you were married. Our ancestors knew this, and now you know.

In fact, on average, researchers found that couples who cohabited before marriage had a 33 percent higher chance of divorcing than couples who moved in together after the wedding ceremony.
 
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The ONLY reason to ever cohabitate with a woman is if you are raising children together. Otherwise, there is 0 reason to ever live with a woman. In fact, it used to be considered SINFUL to live with a woman before you were married. Our ancestors knew this, and now you know.

Of course not, But I do wonder how couples chill like every day and constantly sleep over and do stuff in the morning. Like WTF.

Mabey I just don't have experience with this stuff, and will be a colossal folio when I try to LTR.

I like "drinks/quick dinner, apartment Movie, Smash, GTFO".
 
There’s no way out of dissatisfaction in an LTR. Either you get bored (most likely outcome for me) and so spending time with her is just a chore, or if she’s someone you’re really into but you’re not sure whether you have it in you to keep her around, you’ll be spending your time in a pit of insecurity. FWBs are pointless, sex is a chore, jerk off and immediately after all you can think about is that wasted time.

I swear that men get sold an absolute pup here.
 
There’s no way out of dissatisfaction in an LTR. Either you get bored (most likely outcome for me) and so spending time with her is just a chore, or if she’s someone you’re really into but you’re not sure whether you have it in you to keep her around, you’ll be spending your time in a pit of insecurity. FWBs are pointless, sex is a chore, jerk off and immediately after all you can think about is that wasted time.

I swear that men get sold an absolute pup here.
Well my FwB was zero investment like go on 2x dates a week It kept me semi satisfied for months on end.

if LTR's are cope and slaying is as well.

What're you suppose to do then?

You really cannot "win" unless very goodlooking or very rich. So i guess either LDAR and chill and take what you can get or sigma death grind and try to ascend.

Im tired tbh lol
 
I feel like a lot of dudes on this site are exposed to only low quality retard foids. Online it seems like there are only feminist cunts and basic retards.

There are actually high quality interesting women out in the real world. Everyone should get into rock climbing. It's fun. It's an excuse to get outside. It's an excuse to travel around. It's good for your health. Good for aesthetics. And it's a great way to get a friend group and meet high quality women.
 

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