race is not real for the most part(rant)

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the only thing thats real is differing cultures
if we look at the origins of european ancestry, its likely a mix of western hunter gatherers, anatolian farmers and western steppe herders
a mix of cultures can create something beautiful, like the nords from a mix of hunter gatherer and early european farmer dna
and whatnot

race nationalism is retarded when ur base ancestry was never pure

and then people countering this is gonna pull up our instinct towards differenciation, which has been so morphed and warped in society, these people will think we had this innate instinct when dinosaurs were still around, which is obv wrong

the innate instinct that makes u distinguish people from ur culture to another is built on survivalistic drives, its origin was prob why some cultures lived in prehistorical ages, all u need is basic knowledge of how instincts develop and humans to know where this instinct prob comes from

my idea of this is that in prehistoric ages, when distuingishing tribes could save ur life, they bred this instinct into their kids, who naturally kept it for its survival nature,in ancient germania, tribes had similar physical appearances but at once were differenciated by how they dressed and styling of hair and superficial diferences

and then into the agricultural ages where the focus shifted to land ownership and this instinct shifted to being able to differenciate people from different areas, similar to the previous one, in ancient greece spartans/romans were differing from athenians due to their attitude towards life, in honesty, a spartan could prob integrate himself into athena and vice versa, but at once what differnciated u in this period was law, custom and ethos

now ultimately where the degeneration of this instinct comes from is the portugese in the 15th century, bc the people the portugese saw in guinea was likely so shocking to them, theyre perception of what was human changed, bc this instinct wasnt used to seeing such a drastic difference, i think since im mixed due to rapebabying happening during colonial ages, i can prob construct how natives wouldve seen the colonizers in the beginning, obv purely subjective but imagine seeing big ships coming towards u in the distance, that would be supernatural for native standards, and then also men dressed in otherwordly fabric carrying a sort of arrogance on ur soil, it would be perfect for deification, now, ive read enough of colinzer notebooks and diaries to assume that the natives humanized their pale brethrens over time, later accounts would prob see white people as materialistic strange merchants, when the foreigners start hoarding up ur lands resources claiming it has meaning when all ur life and ancestry knew was ritual and spiritual metaphysics, u would see them as insane, i mean thats how the mind works, and then their reliance on books and physical fraigility, i know this otherness was overwhelming for natives in the south africa region whos trad beliefs were based on nomadic ideas of land and community, when teh settlers moved inland

but away from that era, more modernly, the thoeries of race, the post colonial ideas and into the enligthenment ideas, humans were turned into animals metaphorically, just look at how tehy were classified into classes and categories by carl linnaeus, his works on non humans is fine for me but his mistake was putting humans into categories, how can u look at a person and not see a same specie simply adapted to another way, his categories was basically homo erectus x4 different continents, this is a blasphemous simplification of things
to think this scientific idea of carl was treated with the upmost respect is so stupid to me
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since then these enlightenment ideas shouldve been abolished since modern biology evolved to know that humans innate qualities are same(not to say everything is the same or equal value in peoples btw)

obv religous ideas also united the peoples, the common idea of other peoples needing to work for the ones chosen by god and such, atleast the spanish didnt fully lean into slavery like the western europeans, who thank their stupidity and overindulgance in slavery, coming back for redemption, like poetry the lighter race is being replaced by the ones they ough to conquer

the modernistic man doesnt assosiate himself with local tribes and such anymore, its movements and ideologies, obv some of those involve race, its inevitible, but now its not a single germanic race or baltic race its the whole white race, which is really stupid considering some white races are fucking cucks

looking at modern europe, like i mentioned in the beginning, is from a diverse origin, thus the obsession they have with purity of blood like the national socialists of 20th century germany, is a phhysiological misunderstanding, but again its almos like they knew theyre backgrounds constituted of such a differing culture, my stance on nationalism is that its a fools ideology, this obsession for pure blood as if we are still in dangerous tribes living in the deserts and jungles, think a bit abt the future of humanity for a second
my opposition for this retarded ideology is a uber mixed society, i mean america is prob that along with some european states but they are dishonest with themselves or dont know where to channel their diversity and cultivate a greater society, but there comes the contradiction, they dug themselves that mess, and now have to dig themselves out
on the argument FOR mixed cultures, is bc of the possibility for a higher unity of culture, a one like the ancient greeks when the dorics mixed with orientals, i mean not every culture has the style of the greeks but that possibility for a greater culture alone makes me advocate for a mixed society

@Aox Ofwar @patrikos.psl

no tldr bc u people need to read!

idc abt the messiness of the thread, something i saw on here made me enraged enough to write this thread
 
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What thread got you this locked in son
 
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All my niggas cant see color
 
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isnt it funny how the most devicive and racist people of the 20th century wasnt even his own ideal, hitler was a fucking mixie

his own account of the masterrace ideal was characterized by tall stature, dolichocephalic skull shape, blond hair, and blue eyes

his own reality tho was that he was avr in height, had dark hair, and a moreSouthern European physical structure and appearance,

the whole nazi regime was a fucking joke, lol aryan ideal was blond like Hitler, tall like Goebbels, and slim like Göring in all honesty, they were just mixed subhumans who needed to project their ideals onto the world which they couldnt fulfill
 
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That's why early fascists (Mussolini and the Blackshirts) emphasized the supremacy of cultures and nations, not of races. He believed it was something that divided the northern and southern Italians and was little more than a delusion, and that all Italians were equal to one another because of their shared culture.

He only later adopted racial laws because of his alliance with the Germans since they had more of an emphasis on the supremacy of races (in addition to cultures).
 
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when a romanian speaks, i listen
 
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That's why early fascists (Mussolini and the Blackshirts) emphasized the supremacy of cultures and nations, not of races. He believed it was something that divided the northern and southern Italians and was little more than a delusion, and that all Italians were equal to one another because of their shared culture.

He only later adopted racial laws because of his alliance with the Germans since they had more of an emphasis on the supremacy of races (in addition to cultures).
yeah
moussolini respect tbh, he wanted to return the romanitas of italy
antisemitism didnt exist in fascist italy
i think his drive towards race idealism was bc of ethiopian colonialistic invasion and his pact with hitler obv
he prob didnt want italian nigs marrying ethiopians or fucking them during the wars
 
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Yeah I read. Some general thoughts:

Generally, a mixed person will tend towards the mean of both races on most traits. So evidently for a given trait, one race will be pulled down, one up, assuming an unevenness in the first place. It is true though that more of something might not be good, and that what's good would need to be defined. But the general conclusion here is that we can qualitatively consider the effects of racemixing in a way that is not a reductive "impurity = bad." Even in my account, it's still possible for racemixing to be good in a case where both groups have an imbalance that will be averages out with mixing.

Then on nationalism, there's multiple reasons you could support even racial nationalism without holding the position that racial purity is necessarily good. For example, you could just hold that racemixing is conditionally bad and that those conditions are met (so e.g., you think that a white person racemixing lowers human capital, or that there is a less harmonious relationship between people of sufficiently different ancestral and cultural backgrounds [I favor this idea but it certainly doesn't apply to all cases of racemixing]). You can think that without racial nationalism, globalism will collapse all cultures into one which you think is bad. The idea that diversity is good necessitates some nationalism, or you think intercountry diversity is only good because it's the only way you can lead to a total lack of diversity in the end.

My position is going to be that racemixing is unpreferable, but not something that deserves a lot of attention. Although I think the promotion of it could be argued to indicate some underlying problem in society, but I'm not really interested in that rn.
More broadly, I think any large scale movements of people should be very carefully and deliberately done as to avoid ethnic, religious, cultural conflicts. This is not what's happening at all.
Thirdly I'd say that its reasonable for anyone to want people like them to continue to exist, so I think some seemingly irrational bias towards nationalism is justifiable.

But perhaps the bigger disagreement is the actual utility that mass immigration gives.
 
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yeah
moussolini respect tbh, he wanted to return the romanitas of italy
antisemitism didnt exist in fascist italy
i think his drive towards race idealism was bc of ethiopian colonialistic invasion and his pact with hitler obv
he prob didnt want italian nigs marrying ethiopians or fucking them during the wars
I believe Mussolini was always antisemitic and racist, or at least that's what he claimed privately. But he was always controlled either by the monarchy or by Hitler. I've seen NS argue he had more freedom under Hitler, but obviously given his total reliance on Hitler militarily he probably wouldn't want to contradict him.
 
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This is wrong, race is very much real and has been proven with authors such as edward dutton, we classify wolves who are less genetically apart than whites and blacks as different subspecies so why is it wrong to classify different races as subspecies of humanity? also there is nothing wrong with racial nationalism in this day and age, Europeans used to fight each other as that was the only other ingroups we used to encounter being other europeans but as we interacted and saw other ingroups far more distant from us both culturally and racially we have united and formed white nations such as australia, America, south africa and new zealand
 
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aint read it yet but i bookmarked it with the "Interesting" label :feelshah::feelshah:
 
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This is wrong, race is very much real and has been proven with authors such as edward dutton, we classify wolves who are less genetically apart than whites and blacks as different subspecies so why is it wrong to classify different races as subspecies of humanity? also there is nothing wrong with racial nationalism in this day and age, Europeans used to fight each other as that was the only other ingroups we used to encounter being other europeans but as we interacted and saw other ingroups far more distant from us both culturally and racially we have united and formed white nations such as australia, America, south africa and new zealand
I would have to find all the studies for all of this again but in the meantime you can watch some alt hypothesis archive vids on the topic he speaks on this and hes always been fairly reliant on this topic
 
“We are all one race, the human race” ahhh type thread.
 
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I wish I could add something but I don't know history for shit tbh
 
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