Racism is not real

[kimorishi]

this argument is only valid for ancient humans, the way humans live now none of that matters, we've changed since

same way traditional gender roles dont matter anymore, back then men actually had to protect and hunt whilst the women would stay back, people try to hold onto this when life just isn't how it use to be anymore

 

[moliuny]

what is a hierarchy. A group of persons or things organized into successive ranks or grades with each level subordinate to the one above.

Wrong the hierarchy is the structure, Racism is an ideology

You may think "Muh white betteh than black so hierarchy" Yes, that's the structure. hierarchy exists without racism as it is only the structure. racism is what we used to fill it.

A hierarchy can be made on almost anything, included animals, what changes is what we are validating.
Example: if we are validating size then ants will win and be on top of the hierarchy
Same this as racism: whites are at the top
"B-b-but you just said it" No. hierarchy is a structure
Racism is the idea

Hierarchy doesnt restrict itself only to persons as you can use it on anything else aswell

This nigga stopped reading at people

Also you said it yourself, that hierarchy is something that ranks people (generic) by their rank or grade (generic). but as you can see from the definition, racism is a belief (ideology) and it can or cannot have a hierarchy


Are you sure that you arent the one with room temperature iq?

Study a bit:

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hierarchy

 

[moliuny]

Thats Not what i meant

Yes? You literally said that skin color is an indicator of iq
even tho skin color isnt affected by it, i get it that niggers are dumb as we can see from the graphs but still it does not affect skin color

 

[copemaxingll]

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“lord forgive me…”

you do acknowledge lighter skin is literally inferior in certain environments and climates right? otherwise such phenotypes would not exist and everyone would look nordic?

no… there is no such thing as “a superior animal within a group”… you’re talking about alpha males, and they are not chosen for their light skin or “beauty” but rather by their dominance and strength

You don’t even see how all your superior traits are literally just preferences. The moment you claim straight hair is “superior” to wavy hair is moment you destroy your own argument. You cannot base your claims of objective superiority on personal preferences, opinions and biases

you are so lost

you just took everything I said and took it out of context

Yes, lighter skins are inferior in Africa because lighter skin is a phenotype of lower uv exposure areas, while dark, rich melanin skins are a phenotype of areas where there is higher uv exposure

Many animals have individuals that are dominant over others. Wolves have breeding pairs that lead the pack. Chimpanzees have dominant males that have priority access to mates or resources. Lions have pride hierarchies where they have more influence than others.

I never claim hair is "superior" since it's a trait based on environmental evolution, and whether it's superior depends on the environment.

 

[heinz_guderian]

Yes? You literally said that skin color is an indicator of iq
even tho skin color isnt affected by it, i get it that niggers are dumb as we can see from the graphs but still it does not affect skin color

Its projected on the average of that society

 

[moliuny]

Many animals have individuals that are dominant over others. Wolves have breeding pairs that lead the pack. Chimpanzees have dominant males that have priority access to mates or resources. Lions have pride hierarchies where they have more influence than others.

Classification made by a decided factor such as strengh (obviously made by a third party, there arent any actual natural hierarchies as someone would have to create the hierarchy deciding who goes in the top, why and the benefits, only thing that exists is fear from subject A towards subject B for his life i would say)

 

[moliuny]

Wrong the hierarchy is the structure, Racism is an ideology

You may think "Muh white betteh than black so hierarchy" Yes, that's the structure. hierarchy exists without racism as it is only the structure. racism is what we used to fill it.

A hierarchy can be made on almost anything, included animals, what changes is what we are validating.
Example: if we are validating size then ants will win and be on top of the hierarchy
Same this as racism: whites are at the top
"B-b-but you just said it" No. hierarchy is a structure
Racism is the idea

Hierarchy doesnt restrict itself only to persons as you can use it on anything else aswell


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This nigga stopped reading at people

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Also you said it yourself, that hierarchy is something that ranks people (generic) by their rank or grade (generic). but as you can see from the definition, racism is a belief (ideology) and it can or cannot have a hierarchy


Are you sure that you arent the one with room temperature iq?

Study a bit:

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hierarchy

@kimorishi @Big Boss @prolarper @lurking00214

I expect reps for this waste of time when i should be cooking lunch

 

[Jaotheltn]

ok

mirin pfp

 

[copemaxingll]

Wrong the hierarchy is the structure, Racism is an ideology

You may think "Muh white betteh than black so hierarchy" Yes, that's the structure. hierarchy exists without racism as it is only the structure. racism is what we used to fill it.

A hierarchy can be made on almost anything, included animals, what changes is what we are validating.
Example: if we are validating size then ants will win and be on top of the hierarchy
Same this as racism: whites are at the top
"B-b-but you just said it" No. hierarchy is a structure
Racism is the idea

Hierarchy doesnt restrict itself only to persons as you can use it on anything else aswell


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This nigga stopped reading at people

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Also you said it yourself, that hierarchy is something that ranks people (generic) by their rank or grade (generic). but as you can see from the definition, racism is a belief (ideology) and it can or cannot have a hierarchy


Are you sure that you arent the one with room temperature iq?

Study a bit:

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hierarchy

Google tells me otherwise

Anyway

"Wrong the hierarchy is the structure, Racism is an ideology" So already I'm correct; racism isnt real since it's an idea

"You may think "Muh white betteh than black so hierarchy" Yes, that's the structure. hierarchy exists without racism as it is only the structure. racism is what we used to fill it."Well, no, every race is superior at one thing to another, but at the end of the day one race will always overpower the other; it's literally thought in history. The Roman Empire, the transatlantic slave trade, the Mongol Empire, and the list goes on and on. We can also use other forms of superiority, such as sports or technological and scientific achievements.

Nigga, the rest of your argument is just retarded

 

[copemaxingll]

Classification made by a decided factor such as strengh (obviously made by a third party, there arent any actual natural hierarchies as someone would have to create the hierarchy deciding who goes in the top, why and the benefits, only thing that exists is fear from subject A towards subject B for his life i would say)

This genuinely might be the dumbest shit you ever said. Hierarchies aren’t just something people "created"; they show up naturally when there are real differences in power, ability, or resources. Even if we label or interpret them differently, the actual power dynamics still exist whether we describe them or not.

 

[copemaxingll]

@kimorishi @Big Boss @prolarper @lurking00214

I expect reps for this waste of time when i should be cooking lunch

rep me for some retarded shit I wrote

 

[moliuny]

Well, no, every race is superior at one thing to another, but at the end of the day one race will always overpower the other; it's literally thought in history. The Roman Empire, the transatlantic slave trade, the Mongol Empire, and the list goes on and on.

Using this logic you are suggesting that they all fought while naked bare handed

So already I'm correct; racism isnt real since it's an idea

Racism exists because humans created the idea "race" (we are the same race, with different sub races)
Saying that it does not exists because it's an ideology, first of all ignores everything that happend in the past regarding whites abusing blacks
also, by saying that it does not exist because its an ideology you are saying that: Fascism & socialism do not exist aswell

 

[moliuny]

This genuinely might be the dumbest shit you ever said. Hierarchies aren’t just something people "created"; they show up naturally when there are real differences in power, ability, or resources. Even if we label or interpret them differently, the actual power dynamics still exist whether we describe them or not.

Still you are categorizing the hierarchy by power, ability and/or resources. something that you decided rn
Why are you trying to negate the definition of hierarchy ts actually retarded

 

[moliuny]

They are all abstract concepts who lead to major actions related to them, even tho it isn't something that you can touch or "see" it is still real

 

[2s2f]

mirin pfp

ok

 

[Brava]

Ah yes

Literally. Racism exists outside of race (idk if that makes sense ) like black people were always going to get different treatment , that shit is inevitable , how do you expect a group of people (Anglo Saxons for example) who already struggle with accepting the people who are the same skin color as them (Italians , Irish, Catholics , latins ) and they need to accept blacks (literally probably were considered a different species back then)

 

[copemaxingll]

Using this logic you are suggesting that they all fought while naked bare handed



Racism exists because humans created the idea "race" (we are the same race, with different sub races)
Saying that it does not exists because it's an ideology, first of all ignores everything that happend in the past regarding whites abusing blacks
also, by saying that it does not exist because its an ideology you are saying that: Fascism & socialism do not exist aswell

Still you are categorizing the hierarchy by power, ability and/or resources. something that you decided rn
Why are you trying to negate the definition of hierarchy ts actually retarded

"Using this logic you are suggesting that they all fought while naked bare handed" please tell me how you came to this conclusion

"Racism exists because humans created the idea "race" (we are the same race, with different sub races)
Saying that it does not exists because it's an ideology, first of all ignores everything that happend in the past regarding whites abusing blacks also, by saying that it does not exist because its an ideology you are saying that: Fascism & socialism do not exist aswell"
- Well, yes, those should not exist; it's retarded.

"Still you are categorizing the hierarchy by power, ability and/or resources. something that you decided rn
Why are you trying to negate the definition of hierarchy ts actually retarded"
In nature that's literally how hierarchy works: you are more dominant to others so you would have more power and control

 

[moliuny]

View attachment 5279385 Google tells me otherwise

The fact that food hierarchies exists debunks ts btw

 

[copemaxingll]

They are all abstract concepts who lead to major actions related to them, even tho it isn't something that you can touch or "see" it is still real

and you just contradicted your point

"Classification made by a decided factor such as strengh (obviously made by a third party, there arent any actual natural hierarchies as someone would have to create the hierarchy deciding who goes in the top, why and the benefits, only thing that exists is fear from subject A towards subject B for his life i would say)"
-Hierarchies aren’t natural
-created by people labeling and deciding who is on top
-Only real thing is fear/power

and now you say

"even tho it isn't something that you can touch or "see" it is still real"

So you go from hierarchies being basically just man made labels with no real structure to them being abstract but still real because they describe real power dynamics.

 

[moliuny]

"Using this logic you are suggesting that they all fought while naked bare handed" please tell me how you came to this conclusion

Saying that a group is superior because they wont ignores progress and numbers.
lets take for example the fall of costantinople
80k vs 8k (Land)
They where superior by numbers (strenght)

"Racism exists because humans created the idea "race" (we are the same race, with different sub races)
Saying that it does not exists because it's an ideology, first of all ignores everything that happend in the past regarding whites abusing blacks also, by saying that it does not exist because its an ideology you are saying that: Fascism & socialism do not exist aswell"
- Well, yes, those should not exist; it's retarded.

So you just said that Racism exists goodjob in proving urself wrong

"Still you are categorizing the hierarchy by power, ability and/or resources. something that you decided rn
Why are you trying to negate the definition of hierarchy ts actually retarded"
In nature that's literally how hierarchy works: you are more dominant to others so you would have more power and control

Still categorizing hierarchy by dominance (strenght). you could do a hierarchy by size and have different results.
Do you still wanna negate that hierarchy is just a system and factor such as strenght, color, size etc are what fill them?

Also fr tho you js proved urself wrong about racism why do you still keep going

 

[copemaxingll]

The fact that food hierarchies exists debunks ts btw

so you think steak is inferior to grain sludge?

 

[moliuny]

So you go from hierarchies being basically just man made labels with no real structure to them being abstract but still real because they describe real power dynamics.

Reread the definition of hierarchy, it is a structure, we decide what to rank in there

and you just contradicted your point

Related to ideologies

 

[moliuny]

so you think steak is inferior to grain sludge?

depends what we are ranking

 

[copemaxingll]

Saying that a group is superior because they wont ignores progress and numbers.
lets take for example the fall of costantinople
80k vs 8k (Land)
They where superior by numbers (strenght)


So you just said that Racism exists goodjob in proving urself wrong



Still categorizing hierarchy by dominance (strenght). you could do a hierarchy by size and have different results.
Do you still wanna negate that hierarchy is just a system and factor such as strenght, color, size etc are what fill them?

Also fr tho you js proved urself wrong about racism why do you still keep going

last time I checked, having a larger population is superiority

"So you just said that Racism exists goodjob in proving urself wrong " No, I didn't. I said
"Fascism & socialism do not exist aswell"- Well, yes, those should not exist; it's retarded." im replying to ur part about fascism and socialism, not racism

"Also fr tho you js proved urself wrong about racism why do you still keep going " how?

 

[copemaxingll]

depends what we are ranking

nutrients

 

[moliuny]

last time I checked, having a larger population is superiority

Superiority ranking numbers, proved my point once again

"So you just said that Racism exists goodjob in proving urself wrong " No, I didn't. I said
"Fascism & socialism do not exist aswell"- Well, yes, those should not exist; it's retarded." im replying to ur part about fascism and socialism, not racism

- Well, yes, those should not exist; it's retarded.

SHOULD

"Also fr tho you js proved urself wrong about racism why do you still keep going " how?

Re-read all the replies, you keep saying the exact thing over and over again only replying what i already said, its an endless argument

nutrients

HOLY SHIT YOU JUST PROVED THAT HIERARCHY IS A SYSTEM!

last time I checked, having a larger population is superiority

FIRST YOU RANKED NUMBERS NOW NUTRIENTS TY FOR PUTTING AN END TO TS

 

[moliuny]

@nwed we FR need an iq test to join .org

 

[copemaxingll]

Reread the definition of hierarchy, it is a structure, we decide what to rank in there


Related to ideologies

You're so stubborn about the fact that "WE" decide who is at the top of the hierarchy.

Natural hierarchy exist because animals have a sense of inferiority and superiority. Like, idk why you dont understand that.

 

[moliuny]

Natural hierarchy exist because animals have a sense of inferiority and superiority.

Depends from animal to animal, called fear

 

[nwed]

@nwed we FR need an iq test to join .org

nigga i will write that shit in suggestions

 

[nwed]

Depends from animal to animal, called fear

 

[copemaxingll]

Superiority ranking numbers, proved my point once again

What was your point?

SHOULD

"NOT"

Re-read all the replies, you keep saying the exact thing over and over again only replying what i already said, its an endless argument

No, I'm too tired

HOLY SHIT YOU JUST PROVED THAT HIERARCHY IS A SYSTEM!

Well, yes, natural hierarchy and systematic hierarchy existbut I'm saying that racism is just natural hierarchy where each race is superior to one another

 

[copemaxingll]

@nwed we FR need an iq test to join .org

Unironically, I probably have a higher IQ than you

 

[moliuny]

What was your point?

Hierarchy is a system. Racism is what we use to fill that system.

"NOT"

Exactly my dear "Fascism and socialism SHOULD NOT exist"

natural hierarchy and systematic hierarchy exist

Natural hierarchy is a systematic hierarchy btw also both are systems as hierarchy is a system too so you are saying that Natural hierarchy is a system while systematic hierarchy is a systematic system

racism is just natural hierarchy where each race is superior to one another

Still ranked by something decided ( skin color) and by saying this even if not correct, you cannot say "racism is not real"

 

[moliuny]

Also by using your logic, natural hierarchy are decided by strenght, so you are saying that racism as a natural hierarchy (SOMETHING THAT BY UR LOGIC SHOULD RANK STRENGHT) is decided by skin color.
Also you must be retarded for saying "each race is superior to one another" we are all the same race with different SUB races

 

[copemaxingll]

Hierarchy is a system. Racism is what we use to fill that system.

View attachment 5279506 Exactly my dear "Fascism and socialism SHOULD NOT exist"


Natural hierarchy is a systematic hierarchy btw also both are systems as hierarchy is a system too so you are saying that Natural hierarchy is a system while systematic hierarchy is a systematic system



Still ranked by something decided ( skin color) and by saying this even if not correct, you cannot say "racism is not real"

I'm ngl, I forgot my point. I need to catch some sleep


"natural" and "systematic" are 2 different things

I'm saying that natural is created by the it self and not needed outside help, while systematic is a 3rd party hierarchy that is created by the use of 3rd party help

and racism was an idea created to "create" equality and create a stigma around superiority and inferiority between races/animals when it exist in nature

 

[moliuny]

Also you are using the ideology of racism while saying that it is not real for your "natural hierarchy" once again proved yourself wrong

 

[copemaxingll]

Also by using your logic, natural hierarchy are decided by strenght, so you are saying that racism as a natural hierarchy (SOMETHING THAT BY UR LOGIC SHOULD RANK STRENGHT) is decided by skin color.
Also you must be retarded for saying "each race is superior to one another" we are all the same race with different SUB races

do NOT say I'm related to niggers

 

[copemaxingll]

Also you are using the ideology of racism while saying that it is not real for your "natural hierarchy" once again proved yourself wrong

how?

 

[moliuny]

I'm saying that natural is created by the it self and not needed outside help

There is no such thing, you are relating to fear

Superiority and inferiority between races/animals when it exist in nature

Nope, that superiority and inferiority is ranked by something (strenght, size etc). it does not exist in nature as we created racism

 

[moliuny]

do NOT say I'm related to niggers

Saying "niggers" while saying that racism is not real

how?

You ranked skin color instead of strenght

 

[copemaxingll]

Saying "niggers" while saying that racism is not real


You ranked skin color instead of strenght

Well, yes, I have the right to voice my mind

And no, I don't. I literally gave you examples of why some races are superior

 

[copemaxingll]

You ranked skin color instead of strenght

wait nvm I see what you mean thats my mistake

 

[moliuny]

I literally gave you examples of why some races are superior

Superior ranking skin color which is racism
So you are showing me racism telling me that racism isnt real
So do you plan to demonstrate that racism is not real by being racist?

 

[moliuny]

wait nvm I see what you mean thats my mistake

Does your mistake change the entire "natural hierarchy"?

 

[g4rlic]

define rascism

 

[copemaxingll]

Does your mistake change the entire "natural hierarchy"?

No i still stick to my point, since each race has its own standing in the hierarchy

Superior ranking skin color which is racism

Not what I meant

 

[copemaxingll]

define rascism

Racism is the belief that humans can be divided into distinct racial groups and that these groups have inherent differences in ability, character, or worth, leading to the idea that some races are superior or inferior to others.

 

[moliuny]

No i still stick to my point,

So you proved yourself wrong, want to remain in the wrong and expect me to help you prove yourself wrong once again?

Not what I meant

What did you mean big boss? in the past replies you refer to "natural hierarchy" as a hierarchy ranked by dominance (strenght)

 

[Grainsludgelover]

it is real, its completely natural tho.