Raffaini vs ramieri

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I am going to consult with both in the next few weeks and would appreciate any opinion on them. Need to do genio + perhaps djs& ccw rotation. I am only trying to maximize the aesthetic outcome and not to end up with a dumb face.
 
I read ramirez lul
 
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they're two of best blackpilled surgeons with a real sense of aesthetics
you really can't go wrong
 
Isn't Raffaini more renowned globally?
If it were not for this forum I would not have heard of Ramieri, while Raffaini 's name appears everytime one looks for "best orthognatic surgeon" or alikes
 
raffaini is way better

and not afraid to do big movements unlike -ramieri
 
I don't need big movements though
I am mostly worried of not fucking up my nerves
 
raffaini likely wont work on you if youre ethnic.
ramieri worked on our very own indian member.
 
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raffaini is way better

and not afraid to do big movements unlike -ramieri
I thought Ramieri was known for making big movements along with that one "dogmaxxed" case
 
Good look with Raffaini if you're not Italian or a woman
 
I thought Ramieri was known for making big movements along with that one "dogmaxxed" case
I'm not an expert but Ramieri certainly does not do "big" movements
Before after look good but pretty conservative
 
Thanks let's hope so
 
raffaini doesn't operate on men anymore. he does only women and is very good at it.

go for Ramieri he is good for the price tag. but if you are birdcel tier recessed go to Alfaro instead because you ll need bigger movements.

Or Pagnoni he's cheaper than Alfaro and does big movement but he is not as experienced in bimax as the previous ones.
 
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raffaini doesn't operate on men anymore. he does only women and is very good at it.

go for Ramieri he is good for the price tag. but if you are birdcel tier recessed go to Alfaro instead because you ll need bigger movements.

Or Pagnoni he's cheaper than Alfaro and does big movement but he is not as experienced in bimax as the previous ones.
Well raffaini knows that I am a male and apparently is happy to have me consult with him

Not sure where are you getting your info

Not saying you're wrong btw, but please give me sources
 
raffaini doesn't operate on men anymore. he does only women and is very good at it.

go for Ramieri he is good for the price tag. but if you are birdcel tier recessed go to Alfaro instead because you ll need bigger movements.

Or Pagnoni he's cheaper than Alfaro and does big movement but he is not as experienced in bimax as the previous ones.
Well raffaini knows that I am a male and apparently is happy to have me consult with him

Not sure where are you getting your info

Not saying you're wrong btw, but please
 
Alfaro is also a good choice sure, but no point in going with him if Raffaini is willing to do the job. And I am not that recessed actually. Even ramieri would suffice
 
I don't know much about Raffaini, however Ramieri does PEEK custom facial implants and his colleague does really good rhinoplasties in house, if you need those.
 
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I don't know much about Raffaini, however Ramieri does PEEK custom facial implants and his colleague does really good rhinoplasties in house, if you need those.
Who's his colleague?
 
If you want to be a MAN then PAGNONI moggs them BOTH to DEATH
 
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Raffaini by far
 
I am going to consult with both in the next few weeks and would appreciate any opinion on them. Need to do genio + perhaps djs& ccw rotation. I am only trying to maximize the aesthetic outcome and not to end up with a dumb face.

Do raffani even reply? Contact him and got no reply

info@facesurgery.it
 
raffaini doesn't operate on men anymore. he does only women and is very good at it.

go for Ramieri he is good for the price tag. but if you are birdcel tier recessed go to Alfaro instead because you ll need bigger movements.

Or Pagnoni he's cheaper than Alfaro and does big movement but he is not as experienced in bimax as the previous ones.
I was going to type this
 
Boyz just have a look at his IG page. Literally his last result is on a male
 
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Boyz just have a look at his IG page. Literally his last result is on a male
did you have your consults yet?

I think Raffaini is better aesthetically especially for men with short face.
 
did you have your consults yet?

I think Raffaini is better aesthetically especially for men with short face.
Nope

But I'm going to consult with Ramieri in two weeks

Raffaini in February
 
raffaini doesn't operate on men anymore. he does only women and is very good at it.

go for Ramieri he is good for the price tag. but if you are birdcel tier recessed go to Alfaro instead because you ll need bigger movements.

Or Pagnoni he's cheaper than Alfaro and does big movement but he is not as experienced in bimax as the previous ones.
he just did a male patient
 
Nope

But I'm going to consult with Ramieri in two weeks

Raffaini in February
How are you getting a consult with Raffaini? Are you flying to Italy for it?
 

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